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If Arrow is town and Ikarus is mafia...

You are strictly asking me to do the least townie thing I could possibly do.

And presently I am of that mindset.

If Arrow is town and Ikarus is mafia...

You are strictly asking me to do the least townie thing I could possibly do.

And presently I am of that mindset.

Nah you know what fuck it, I'm Mac and I don't play that.

[VOTE]ikarusdk[/VOTE]

Let's dance homie.

Nah you know what fuck it, I'm Mac and I don't play that.

-vote ikarusdk

Let's dance homie.

[QUOTE=ikarusdk;990942]Also, leaving this in case I am the most retarded person to ever live and MM is mafia

MM frig you[/QUOTE]

Like this just seems ridiculously fake haha.

Originally Posted by ikarusdk

Also, leaving this in case I am the most retarded person to ever live and MM is mafia

MM frig you

Like this just seems ridiculously fake haha.

I can already see that Arrow is going to die today and I really doubt anything is going to happen to prevent it. I don't have a problem with it. So I haven't got much else to say.

I think if I squint hard enough I can see a world where Ika has snowed me because I don't really think Wisp has been that wolfy and I usually find Wisp as mafia is wolfy and stays wolfy.

Stellaria I would be surprised but not like overwhelmingly so.

Ultra I'm just never touching.

I think what's going to likely happen as much as it sounds weird to say is that Arrow is going to die, and probably flip town and then we'll all go oh wow amazing.

Then we'll probably flip Wisp kicking and screaming tomorrow and lose to MM/Ika lol.

I can already see that Arrow is going to die today and I really doubt anything is going to happen to prevent it. I don't have a problem with it. So I haven't got much else to say.

I think if I squint hard enough I can see a world where Ika has snowed me because I don't really think Wisp has been that wolfy and I usually find Wisp as mafia is wolfy and stays wolfy.

Stellaria I would be surprised but not like overwhelmingly so.

Ultra I'm just never touching.

I think what's going to likely happen as much as it sounds weird to say is that Arrow is going to die, and probably flip town and then we'll all go oh wow amazing.

Then we'll probably flip Wisp kicking and screaming tomorrow and lose to MM/Ika lol.

[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;990938][MENTION=45380]macdougall[/MENTION] you've basically disappeared lately. What's your world, and why?[/QUOTE]

Just want to solve whoever the consensus is. Have too many town and don't particularly find anything my town are saying disagreeable. I assume you are probably town now and willing to sheep Ika. Would just chop Wiisp/Arrow. Want to just go Arrow first to get Achro out of the game.

Ultra
Ika
Stellaria

I don't touch any of the above til f3 tbh.

Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

@macdougall you've basically disappeared lately. What's your world, and why?

Just want to solve whoever the consensus is. Have too many town and don't particularly find anything my town are saying disagreeable. I assume you are probably town now and willing to sheep Ika. Would just chop Wiisp/Arrow. Want to just go Arrow first to get Achro out of the game.

Ultra
Ika
Stellaria

I don't touch any of the above til f3 tbh.

[QUOTE=Stellaria;990927]I feel the need to bring this up right now. I live in Southern California and we're kind of going through an unexpected hurricane problem right now. Some of my time recently has been spent preparing for the worst. If the power goes out where I live OR if I'm ordered to evacuate, I will request to sub out. Just want to let you all know.[/QUOTE]

Jeez be safe man.

Originally Posted by Stellaria

I feel the need to bring this up right now. I live in Southern California and we're kind of going through an unexpected hurricane problem right now. Some of my time recently has been spent preparing for the worst. If the power goes out where I live OR if I'm ordered to evacuate, I will request to sub out. Just want to let you all know.

Jeez be safe man.

[QUOTE=ikarusdk;990908]Why?

Achro is going to win if I'm alive by day 5.

Are you willing to risk a mislynch for a neutral that will help us with a vote?[/QUOTE]

I don't think Achro will have marked someone who is unlikely to be mafia personally. I think the safest bet is to resolve him and whoever he thinks should die/wishes to pursue.

Originally Posted by ikarusdk

Why?

Achro is going to win if I'm alive by day 5.

Are you willing to risk a mislynch for a neutral that will help us with a vote?

I don't think Achro will have marked someone who is unlikely to be mafia personally. I think the safest bet is to resolve him and whoever he thinks should die/wishes to pursue.

I'm going to be voting out whoever Achro marked.

I'm going to be voting out whoever Achro marked.

[VOTE]Dark Magician[/VOTE]

-vote Dark Magician

if you're claiming lost wolf why do you want to kill a pack wolf anyway? do you not share their wincon?

if you're claiming lost wolf why do you want to kill a pack wolf anyway? do you not share their wincon?

I dunno I could just be being a dumbass. I must admit my wim took a fair hit when Kuti flipped town and was revealed to have fake claimed on day 1 for no real reason lol.

I dunno I could just be being a dumbass. I must admit my wim took a fair hit when Kuti flipped town and was revealed to have fake claimed on day 1 for no real reason lol.

The idea that DM is like, not a pack mafia but some sort of mafia siding alternative medium is kinda believable in a way?

The idea that DM is like, not a pack mafia but some sort of mafia siding alternative medium is kinda believable in a way?

So when I was showering I was thinking to myself.

If we flip MM and he flips town, we have at least a confirmed wolf at limlo. It also sorts out any Achromatic is full of crap worlds which is pretty good.

If we flip DM and he flips lost wolf or 3p or whatever, we don't really have MM solved and Achro remains around, we are unfortunately in a bit of a kingmaker situation with Achro.

If we flip MM and Achro doesn't exit the game then we at least know he's been a big fat liar?

So when I was showering I was thinking to myself.

If we flip MM and he flips town, we have at least a confirmed wolf at limlo. It also sorts out any Achromatic is full of crap worlds which is pretty good.

If we flip DM and he flips lost wolf or 3p or whatever, we don't really have MM solved and Achro remains around, we are unfortunately in a bit of a kingmaker situation with Achro.

If we flip MM and Achro doesn't exit the game then we at least know he's been a big fat liar?

[QUOTE=Arrow;990852]I'm trying to figure out why we switched to DM from MM right now, and why Ikarus isn't being considered. I get Achro gets his wincon from killing MM, but MM seems scummy as hell to me.

PoD seems town. Mac and Ultra just seem to be piling on wherever they can.[/QUOTE]

What am I piling on exactly?

Originally Posted by Arrow

I'm trying to figure out why we switched to DM from MM right now, and why Ikarus isn't being considered. I get Achro gets his wincon from killing MM, but MM seems scummy as hell to me.

PoD seems town. Mac and Ultra just seem to be piling on wherever they can.

What am I piling on exactly?

has Marshall full claimed?

has Marshall full claimed?

[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;990813]WHAT

Are you literally saying you're going to vote me over THE LITERAL THIRD PARTY SCUM CLAIM (because notice he's claiming that there are probably only two mafia lol, implying he's replacing the third one)

WHAT WHAT WHAT

Have you read the walls of page 39 (50 posts per page)? Thoughts? [I]Explain them, please.[/I] You've gone away for quite a long time and then just come back with this, which is frankly silly lol[/QUOTE]

yeah

Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

WHAT

Are you literally saying you're going to vote me over THE LITERAL THIRD PARTY SCUM CLAIM (because notice he's claiming that there are probably only two mafia lol, implying he's replacing the third one)

WHAT WHAT WHAT

Have you read the walls of page 39 (50 posts per page)? Thoughts? Explain them, please. You've gone away for quite a long time and then just come back with this, which is frankly silly lol

yeah

[QUOTE=Stellaria;990808]wait why[/QUOTE]

wait why?

because I think they're mafia

Originally Posted by Stellaria

wait why

wait why?

because I think they're mafia

[QUOTE=Achro;990793]Surest sign someone flips town tbh[/QUOTE]

so true

Originally Posted by Achro

Surest sign someone flips town tbh

so true

[VOTE]marshmallow marshall[/VOTE]

-vote marshmallow marshall

[QUOTE=Dark Magician;990797]All I’ll say here is I’m willing to go over for the sake of resolution on my slot, hope my flip can help you solve game better.[/QUOTE]

not this again lol

Originally Posted by Dark Magician

All I’ll say here is I’m willing to go over for the sake of resolution on my slot, hope my flip can help you solve game better.

not this again lol

[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;990488]For the record, Kuti did say they would holster on D1, iirc. Looking it up...

Here:[/QUOTE]

Yeah so why not just say "I holstered"?

Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

For the record, Kuti did say they would holster on D1, iirc. Looking it up...

Here:

Yeah so why not just say "I holstered"?

[QUOTE=Achro;990486]well

we have confirmation that one of three people in you/dm/kuti is a wolf (at least)
I have information that kuti did not try to give presents like promised n1 (I redirected them to me)
DM is one of the two mediums so it feels like a good idea to keep that alive so martin's green peek can be 100% not manipulated with both mediums alive.

What's the disconnect for you?[/QUOTE]

And Kuti is in antispew/not posting at all ie. not trying.

Originally Posted by Achro

well

we have confirmation that one of three people in you/dm/kuti is a wolf (at least)
I have information that kuti did not try to give presents like promised n1 (I redirected them to me)
DM is one of the two mediums so it feels like a good idea to keep that alive so martin's green peek can be 100% not manipulated with both mediums alive.

What's the disconnect for you?

And Kuti is in antispew/not posting at all ie. not trying.

Okay now that Achro has elaborated.

A town here with a real role would say "I holstered my role based on the discussions we had on day 1 about my ability potentially backfiring".

Then we would all go "ooooooh that makes sense". Particularly given Kuti said that they would.

And then we would all stew for a bit, chop them and they would flip town.

However Kuti did not even give us the courtesy of that. It is probably because Kuti doesn't want to actually say anything remotely readable for spew and get engaged in back and forth with people.

However, as per the above, it's not impossible Kuti is just too busy and cbf, but it's pretty disappointing that they'd let us miselim them like this if they are. I'd be surprised if the town will be able to come back from it if Kuti flips town.

Okay now that Achro has elaborated.

A town here with a real role would say "I holstered my role based on the discussions we had on day 1 about my ability potentially backfiring".

Then we would all go "ooooooh that makes sense". Particularly given Kuti said that they would.

And then we would all stew for a bit, chop them and they would flip town.

However Kuti did not even give us the courtesy of that. It is probably because Kuti doesn't want to actually say anything remotely readable for spew and get engaged in back and forth with people.

However, as per the above, it's not impossible Kuti is just too busy and cbf, but it's pretty disappointing that they'd let us miselim them like this if they are. I'd be surprised if the town will be able to come back from it if Kuti flips town.

[QUOTE=Wiisp;990480]i mean u can read into w/e
if they are mafia, its not antispew, that much i am certain[/QUOTE]

Antispew in that they are simply not posting at all to avoid spewing people. Standard belly up mafia antispew.

Let me be very clear. If they are town, and they can verify their claim, and they are being wrongly accused of lying and are simply town, they should not and I believe [U]would not [/U]simply allow themselves to die without a fight or without at least clearing up the mech stuff. And if they are, then they are badly misplaying needlessly when they could simply say "I am actually real, and I sent so and so a message". Kuti is a good town player, so I err on the side of antispew over them being this willfully anti town as town.

If they are real, and town, then in their perspective the person who they sent the gift to that has said nothing should be suspicious to them for allowing this to progress as far as it has.

If they are town and lied about their role just for shits and giggles, they should at least say that and allow us to assess with a full set of information. That is the least they can do.

The fact they are just giving up without talking is almost certainly antispew if they are mafia and heavily heavily indicative that they are not town. How exactly would it not be?

Originally Posted by Wiisp

i mean u can read into w/e
if they are mafia, its not antispew, that much i am certain

Antispew in that they are simply not posting at all to avoid spewing people. Standard belly up mafia antispew.

Let me be very clear. If they are town, and they can verify their claim, and they are being wrongly accused of lying and are simply town, they should not and I believe would not simply allow themselves to die without a fight or without at least clearing up the mech stuff. And if they are, then they are badly misplaying needlessly when they could simply say "I am actually real, and I sent so and so a message". Kuti is a good town player, so I err on the side of antispew over them being this willfully anti town as town.

If they are real, and town, then in their perspective the person who they sent the gift to that has said nothing should be suspicious to them for allowing this to progress as far as it has.

If they are town and lied about their role just for shits and giggles, they should at least say that and allow us to assess with a full set of information. That is the least they can do.

The fact they are just giving up without talking is almost certainly antispew if they are mafia and heavily heavily indicative that they are not town. How exactly would it not be?

[QUOTE=Wiisp;990471]i mean their only proof is that nobody has claimed anything in terms of a gift, from my understanding[/QUOTE]

That's not my point. My point is that a town with a verifiable claim being accused by a neutral of lying should do more than go belly up and tell us they're okay with chopping them to "progress the game".

Seems more likely just antispew.

Originally Posted by Wiisp

i mean their only proof is that nobody has claimed anything in terms of a gift, from my understanding

That's not my point. My point is that a town with a verifiable claim being accused by a neutral of lying should do more than go belly up and tell us they're okay with chopping them to "progress the game".

Seems more likely just antispew.

Got nothing to add anymore. Hopefully Kuti isn't town cuz if they are I'd expect at least a retort to Achro's accusation of lying about their role.

Got nothing to add anymore. Hopefully Kuti isn't town cuz if they are I'd expect at least a retort to Achro's accusation of lying about their role.

arrow prob

arrow prob

[QUOTE=Ultra;990345]This is literally the best Kutiplz can come up with in regards to her reasoning for the Banana vote - imposing some false dichotomy to excuse two votes on Mac/Banana well before the end of day

Loldebite how do you think this looks good I want you to justify moving the needle on this considering from your standpoint yoy should be catching up and didnt miss/forget this[/QUOTE]

FYI people she townreads were Dark Magician and Wiisp who at the time I don't think had been towny nor was Kuti's townread of them very reasonable.

Originally Posted by Ultra

This is literally the best Kutiplz can come up with in regards to her reasoning for the Banana vote - imposing some false dichotomy to excuse two votes on Mac/Banana well before the end of day

Loldebite how do you think this looks good I want you to justify moving the needle on this considering from your standpoint yoy should be catching up and didnt miss/forget this

FYI people she townreads were Dark Magician and Wiisp who at the time I don't think had been towny nor was Kuti's townread of them very reasonable.

[QUOTE=Stellaria;990344]I imagine the best way to answer this is to judge the three people allegedly in the carol based on their own merits. If you think that there's a non-town in Dark, Kuti, and MM, then the carol seems at least somewhat likely to be true. And from what I can tell, I don't think anyone so far disagrees with this. If you don't think there's a non-town between Dark, Kuti, or MM, then we probably aren't playing the same game. Though, technically, Ikarus=mafia and Carol=tampered aren't mutually exclusive.[/QUOTE]

I think DM is obvious town outside of the carol.

I had MM/Kuti as w/w but have come around on MM anyway.

Kuti is just mafia let's just get on with the killing Kuti part.

Originally Posted by Stellaria

I imagine the best way to answer this is to judge the three people allegedly in the carol based on their own merits. If you think that there's a non-town in Dark, Kuti, and MM, then the carol seems at least somewhat likely to be true. And from what I can tell, I don't think anyone so far disagrees with this. If you don't think there's a non-town between Dark, Kuti, or MM, then we probably aren't playing the same game. Though, technically, Ikarus=mafia and Carol=tampered aren't mutually exclusive.

I think DM is obvious town outside of the carol.

I had MM/Kuti as w/w but have come around on MM anyway.

Kuti is just mafia let's just get on with the killing Kuti part.

I see Ultra is here to say the things I'd say if I cared more about the game so just imagine I'm here cheering him on every time he says something. Bye.

I see Ultra is here to say the things I'd say if I cared more about the game so just imagine I'm here cheering him on every time he says something. Bye.

[QUOTE=Stellaria;990339]I'm of two minds on this question.

1st, PoD didn't show up in any carol, and DM did show up.
2nd, PoD seems to have grossly misrepresented the situation that I was in yesterday, in a way that struck me as particularly egregious.

In a situation where there's 1 town and 1 wolf between PoD and DM, I'd have to stick with the facts and do my best to ignore my bias and say that DM is more likely the wolf.

Not that you asked for this bit, but for what it's worth, I think kuti is more likely to be non-town than Dark Magician.[/QUOTE]

Being in a carol is fairly rand in and of itself. And given Kuti is in it, i'm viewing it as a town point in DM's favour lol.

Originally Posted by Stellaria

I'm of two minds on this question.

1st, PoD didn't show up in any carol, and DM did show up.
2nd, PoD seems to have grossly misrepresented the situation that I was in yesterday, in a way that struck me as particularly egregious.

In a situation where there's 1 town and 1 wolf between PoD and DM, I'd have to stick with the facts and do my best to ignore my bias and say that DM is more likely the wolf.

Not that you asked for this bit, but for what it's worth, I think kuti is more likely to be non-town than Dark Magician.

Being in a carol is fairly rand in and of itself. And given Kuti is in it, i'm viewing it as a town point in DM's favour lol.

Is Charmander banana? Can we use people's usernames please.

Is Charmander banana? Can we use people's usernames please.

[QUOTE=Stellaria;990334]Yes, there was a hydra thing. We did play the same game. But I wasn't mad. And I think you're getting that idea from PoD, who has grossly misrepresented the situation, claiming that I threw a fit about it.

There was no fit. You could look through my ISO if you want. I made a post explaining my position on the hydra thing.

But it's a moot point to argue about it. Because I was right on every one of my points.

- Frinckles confirmed to me he knew nothing about any Hydra. Debunked Charmander's claim that he signed off on a new addition to the hydra. You can ask him yourself if you'd like.
[I]- Charmander outright admitted that the Hydra was fake, confirming further that he was lying.[/I]
- Kuti in particular was wrong about giving Charmander a day 1 pass based on the premise that one of the "hydra" members was a newbie.

I could look for post numbers too if you want me to.[/QUOTE]

Do you agree that if there is a t/w dynamic between the two mediums PoD and DM that PoD is more likely mafia than DM?

Originally Posted by Stellaria

Yes, there was a hydra thing. We did play the same game. But I wasn't mad. And I think you're getting that idea from PoD, who has grossly misrepresented the situation, claiming that I threw a fit about it.

There was no fit. You could look through my ISO if you want. I made a post explaining my position on the hydra thing.

But it's a moot point to argue about it. Because I was right on every one of my points.

- Frinckles confirmed to me he knew nothing about any Hydra. Debunked Charmander's claim that he signed off on a new addition to the hydra. You can ask him yourself if you'd like.
- Charmander outright admitted that the Hydra was fake, confirming further that he was lying.
- Kuti in particular was wrong about giving Charmander a day 1 pass based on the premise that one of the "hydra" members was a newbie.

I could look for post numbers too if you want me to.

Do you agree that if there is a t/w dynamic between the two mediums PoD and DM that PoD is more likely mafia than DM?

[QUOTE=Loldebite;990331]OMGUS

you were right Achro, there is such a thing as Too Bad To Be A Wolf, after all.[/QUOTE]

This is needlessly mean tbh.

Originally Posted by Loldebite

OMGUS

you were right Achro, there is such a thing as Too Bad To Be A Wolf, after all.

This is needlessly mean tbh.

[QUOTE=Achro;990329]To be perfectly honest I chopped banana because they called me no value.

I was offended.[/QUOTE]

And I didn't chop Banana at all. Banana chopped themselves when I said that I didn't want to chop them and that there was no dome and they snap voted me and said "is it a dome now" and then essentially egged everyone else on to vote them while I coherently explained why I wasn't mafia and even then I didn't vote them until there was quite literally no alternative.

Originally Posted by Achro

To be perfectly honest I chopped banana because they called me no value.

I was offended.

And I didn't chop Banana at all. Banana chopped themselves when I said that I didn't want to chop them and that there was no dome and they snap voted me and said "is it a dome now" and then essentially egged everyone else on to vote them while I coherently explained why I wasn't mafia and even then I didn't vote them until there was quite literally no alternative.

But first, please chop Kuti lol.

But first, please chop Kuti lol.

[QUOTE=Stellaria;990317]Mac could I ask you to revisit this question from Martin? From my interpretation, he's saying he doesn't believe you didn't realize Lumi wasn't a player because you already posted a readslist on everyone. It's kind of a good point actually[/QUOTE]

I copy pasted the initial post in the OP and used it as a basis for my readslist.

I initially didn't think anything of it.

I then discovered the magical ISO list and saw Lumi's name there.

I thought wow Lumi is in this game, weird that I've not seen any posts. Paying no mind at all to the fact that Lumi's name wasn't in the original OP list because I am in fact, a moron sometimes that doesn't apply past information to present thinking.

I then continued for a time, in the game, thinking Lumi was in fact in it, and assuming that one day I might actually see a Lumi post and saying nothing of it.

At some point I made those posts about Lumi.

You can suspect me for this if you want, it's reasonable to do so.

Originally Posted by Stellaria

Mac could I ask you to revisit this question from Martin? From my interpretation, he's saying he doesn't believe you didn't realize Lumi wasn't a player because you already posted a readslist on everyone. It's kind of a good point actually

I copy pasted the initial post in the OP and used it as a basis for my readslist.

I initially didn't think anything of it.

I then discovered the magical ISO list and saw Lumi's name there.

I thought wow Lumi is in this game, weird that I've not seen any posts. Paying no mind at all to the fact that Lumi's name wasn't in the original OP list because I am in fact, a moron sometimes that doesn't apply past information to present thinking.

I then continued for a time, in the game, thinking Lumi was in fact in it, and assuming that one day I might actually see a Lumi post and saying nothing of it.

At some point I made those posts about Lumi.

You can suspect me for this if you want, it's reasonable to do so.

[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;990315]Not to go back into that tunnel, but I read your ISO on D1 and was like "okay, there are some takes, but they are never explained, like, EVER"
That doesn't count as solving in my book, anyone can say "A bad B good C idk D towncore E ..." and it doesn't really move anything forward lol. Meanwhile, I got reactions out of people for the entire D1 and formed explained reads :(
but ok
and yes, nice """avatar""".[/QUOTE]

reading ISO's bad

Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Not to go back into that tunnel, but I read your ISO on D1 and was like "okay, there are some takes, but they are never explained, like, EVER"
That doesn't count as solving in my book, anyone can say "A bad B good C idk D towncore E ..." and it doesn't really move anything forward lol. Meanwhile, I got reactions out of people for the entire D1 and formed explained reads
but ok
and yes, nice """avatar""".

reading ISO's bad

for all those complaining i didn't have an avatar, it's now been resolved

for all those complaining i didn't have an avatar, it's now been resolved

[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;990303]reading back eod1: yes achro, Stellaris is indeed a very good game XD
[SIZE=1]sawree stellaria[/SIZE]



Yeah, this is probably actually town, because there's no way in Hell, Heaven and anything inbetween that he actually thinks that could pass as scum. He is solving and having reasons for his often one-liner takes... [I][B]IN HIS MIND.[/B][/I] Because D1 mac ISO is definetly not as solvy as, say, Martin's or my own. Reminds me of SmartBomb on MU (a very cool guy if I dare say so myself), but in an overconfident and slightly annoying to play with version lol (don't worry, I don't hate you mac, I just don't like that style. You may call it a skill issue if you so desire.)[/QUOTE]

I don't think you read many of my posts if you don't think that I was solving a lot.

I didn't 150 post and write walls, but every post I made served a purpose of solving. Compare that with the intent behind Kuti's posts for instance?

Anyway... it's whatever. I agree that I wasn't as solvy as Martin, but I reckon I was solvier than you lol.

But hey, I also barely read any of your posts and thought you were mafia so maybe I shouldn't comment on other people's solviness when I've only read 20% of the game.

Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

reading back eod1: yes achro, Stellaris is indeed a very good game XD
sawree stellaria



Yeah, this is probably actually town, because there's no way in Hell, Heaven and anything inbetween that he actually thinks that could pass as scum. He is solving and having reasons for his often one-liner takes... IN HIS MIND. Because D1 mac ISO is definetly not as solvy as, say, Martin's or my own. Reminds me of SmartBomb on MU (a very cool guy if I dare say so myself), but in an overconfident and slightly annoying to play with version lol (don't worry, I don't hate you mac, I just don't like that style. You may call it a skill issue if you so desire.)

I don't think you read many of my posts if you don't think that I was solving a lot.

I didn't 150 post and write walls, but every post I made served a purpose of solving. Compare that with the intent behind Kuti's posts for instance?

Anyway... it's whatever. I agree that I wasn't as solvy as Martin, but I reckon I was solvier than you lol.

But hey, I also barely read any of your posts and thought you were mafia so maybe I shouldn't comment on other people's solviness when I've only read 20% of the game.

[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;990299]This is possible scum theatre. I don't see the "gaslighting" Wisp referred to (unless he just meant that DM is generally rude lol, but I don't think so, especially considering how experienced Wisp is; he knows the terms), and this interaction just makes so little sense, especially since it isn't followed by anything real (i.e. votes), despite being at EOD.[/QUOTE]

This is also a pretty believable read because I can totally see it as theatre.

Now I want to townread you.

Now we dance.

Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

This is possible scum theatre. I don't see the "gaslighting" Wisp referred to (unless he just meant that DM is generally rude lol, but I don't think so, especially considering how experienced Wisp is; he knows the terms), and this interaction just makes so little sense, especially since it isn't followed by anything real (i.e. votes), despite being at EOD.

This is also a pretty believable read because I can totally see it as theatre.

Now I want to townread you.

Now we dance.

[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;990298]Martin's reads don't seem that bad at all to me? Only real disagreement with the list that prompted your reaction (see spoiler below) is Wisp being up in the gook books (see my previous posts)

[SPOILER=Martin's list][/SPOILER]

Also, being killed for being wrong is um... rare, let's say. It's really just for WIFOM purposes, which isn't all that common.


Um, I mean, he is towny, considering his reaction to my push on him on early D1, but that's a little exaggerated lol






Those three posts really look like posts from an overly confident veteran... but a town one who's like "I'm cool, I know everything, I solve, I rock! *sunglasses on*". And it provides [I]an explanation[/I] for reads, which wasn't there before

Honestly I like Mac better now, and scummy Wisp's EOD just reinforces that read[/QUOTE]

I phone posted all of day 1 and I'm at my desk so far today if that helps haha.

Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Martin's reads don't seem that bad at all to me? Only real disagreement with the list that prompted your reaction (see spoiler below) is Wisp being up in the gook books (see my previous posts)



Also, being killed for being wrong is um... rare, let's say. It's really just for WIFOM purposes, which isn't all that common.


Um, I mean, he is towny, considering his reaction to my push on him on early D1, but that's a little exaggerated lol






Those three posts really look like posts from an overly confident veteran... but a town one who's like "I'm cool, I know everything, I solve, I rock! *sunglasses on*". And it provides an explanation for reads, which wasn't there before

Honestly I like Mac better now, and scummy Wisp's EOD just reinforces that read

I phone posted all of day 1 and I'm at my desk so far today if that helps haha.

[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;990294]EOD1 DM soooo feels like scum me when I'm trying to avoid a mechanical solve that's inevitably going to come against me lol

I am very inclined to think he's the evil medium, which would [I]probably[/I] make POD town (and POD's behavior doesn't speak against that afaik)[/QUOTE]

This is a pretty towny post lol.

Fuck around and you might force me to care again.

Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

EOD1 DM soooo feels like scum me when I'm trying to avoid a mechanical solve that's inevitably going to come against me lol

I am very inclined to think he's the evil medium, which would probably make POD town (and POD's behavior doesn't speak against that afaik)

This is a pretty towny post lol.

Fuck around and you might force me to care again.

[QUOTE=powerofdeath;990278]Here's probably a better list of his reads[/QUOTE]

Least Ultra is in the top here so he could feasibly have stood in front of Ultra.

Anyway, I don't care about anything anymore because

a) Kuti is obvious mafia
b) Most of the rest of you are obviously not mafia
c) The names outside the above are so few that you could just chain them all together and win ie. just go like Arrow into Marshall into Debite into Wisp and if we lose well who cares it's just a game lol.

Originally Posted by powerofdeath

Here's probably a better list of his reads

Least Ultra is in the top here so he could feasibly have stood in front of Ultra.

Anyway, I don't care about anything anymore because

a) Kuti is obvious mafia
b) Most of the rest of you are obviously not mafia
c) The names outside the above are so few that you could just chain them all together and win ie. just go like Arrow into Marshall into Debite into Wisp and if we lose well who cares it's just a game lol.

Achro hold me back bro, hold me back

Achro hold me back bro, hold me back

[IMG]https://media.tenor.com/ZSZ2FZdz010AAAAC/kermit-rage.gif[/IMG]

Also cuz he voted me til the last minute and has me in his POE you kill him and then hope you can push me as the c/w who the NK was scumreading lol.

I see through your shit Sabi.

Also cuz he voted me til the last minute and has me in his POE you kill him and then hope you can push me as the c/w who the NK was scumreading lol.

I see through your shit Sabi.

[QUOTE=Achro;990274]i thought that was a non mafia list lol[/QUOTE]

I think Martin straight up has zero mafia in his POE and is townreading all the mafia and might have actually been straight popped because of it. It's exactly the type of cynical kill Kuti would make specifically because Kuti can't fake solve so they need things to hide behind like "OMG MAC MARTIN TOWNREAD ME I WOULD NEVER KILL HIM UR FUCKEN STUPID

*SELFVOTES AND LEAVES FOR AN HOUR*"

Originally Posted by Achro

i thought that was a non mafia list lol

I think Martin straight up has zero mafia in his POE and is townreading all the mafia and might have actually been straight popped because of it. It's exactly the type of cynical kill Kuti would make specifically because Kuti can't fake solve so they need things to hide behind like "OMG MAC MARTIN TOWNREAD ME I WOULD NEVER KILL HIM UR FUCKEN STUPID

*SELFVOTES AND LEAVES FOR AN HOUR*"

[QUOTE=Dark Magician;990276]If Banana is right on MM/Ultra containing one, I can see it.[/QUOTE]

There has never walked a more obvious town among a mafia game as Ultra has ever been.

Originally Posted by Dark Magician

If Banana is right on MM/Ultra containing one, I can see it.

There has never walked a more obvious town among a mafia game as Ultra has ever been.

[QUOTE=powerofdeath;990278]Here's probably a better list of his reads[/QUOTE]

Tbh he might have just been killed cuz his reads were bad lol.

Originally Posted by powerofdeath

Here's probably a better list of his reads

Tbh he might have just been killed cuz his reads were bad lol.