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    Quote Originally Posted by Luka View Post
    If anybody is saying this setup is to s!sided they haven’t read the roles
    It’s scum sided due to there being 3 Saplings which are arguably bad roles for toen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizery View Post
    Yeah "evil teacher lost because they got scumread and then hit ghost"

    Literally shut up
    Yeah it was more like:
    Mizery was caught wrongly as they were paired with a mafia and they weren’t even mafia.
    Unlucky.
    Then they hit Ghost.
    Unlucky.

    It happens friend, there are games that are like that, the best thing to do is just look forward to the next game that’ll be better.
    Again, I am sorry if I upset you this game and that I was way too hard on you being the mafia when you weren’t.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    MIZERY WILL BE MY FRIEND FOREVER
    MAWHAHAHA!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Quit insulting Wisp, he's nice
    no DM i dont forgive you for your playstyle this game lol
    Hey I’m not trying to be mean I am just trying to ensure my team wins!
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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    Oh wow Illwei’s never been a wolf once in FOL according to their sheet.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    I’m surprised people can’t tell who I am.
    The people who knows are Baker and Martin.
    I mean MM does but only because of Discord as they never went on FoL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luka View Post
    Yeah Im horrible at alts but I think DM being wisp is most liekly
    Genshin is Rem. Hi Rem! We've played together before!!!
    Wisp has his own account, I'm not telling you my account strickly because I like Illwei and don’t want them to black list me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    yeahh MM can go get lynched ig?
    MM is the same alignment as Tau.
    Mizery confirms via Mech.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    As even if you are town, it’s better to save your Venge shot for tomorrow where it matters allot.
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    Oliver change of plans, we are going with Helz plan.
    We are killing Scumbot.
    Better to do that in the case your a wolf so you don’t Venge kill Helz.
    Your alignment should be sorted easily tomorrow and if not you will have a Venge shot on a confirmed wolf.
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    This entire time I didn’t realize Genshin Impact was a Mobile game
    But I now know it is as it’s made by the same makers as Honkai: Star Rail
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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    Wild takes the ability*
    Not Helz lol, sorry spelling error.

    Also sorry guys for speaking so much lol, all I can do this game!!
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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    Also BTW Helz you were night immune, Helz takes the ability they don’t fake the ability.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    Plus if Oliver is Mafia Vengeful we just kill Helz. So it is best to deal with Oliver after the other mafia member when Helz does their thing tomorrow.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    Example even if Tau dies and let’s say somehow Scumbot flipped town.

    Oliver
    Helz
    MM
    Martin
    Luka

    MM and Helz are confirmed town.
    Oliver is confirmed mafia.
    One of the Protectives (Martin and Luka) are mafia, however at that point if we trust Varcron to go with the plan it would just be Luka meaning:
    Luka and Oliver would be the team.

    Again, Game Winning Strat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    So forget what I said, Helz is right.

    Helz cannot die tonight as long as both Martin and Luka is on them.
    Hau dying tonight confirms MM as town.
    Hau gets a check off tonight, I recommend Martin and Luka.
    Varcron chooses MM and Martin tonight.

    We execute Scumbot today.
    We use Helz ability tomorrow to get a confirmed and Oliver can also be used as a Vengeful or just execute him then just in case.
    This game play should be game winning
    This here is actually the winning Strat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    It’s like you are just make optimally bad plays today.
    Like I don’t know why in the actual fuck you think not using your ability at all is better then targeting me.
    I do apologize for this.
    This was unnecessary.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    @Helz

    I am sorry for
    1)Doubting your Plan.
    2)Pinging you so much.
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    So forget what I said, Helz is right.

    Helz cannot die tonight as long as both Martin and Luka is on them.
    Hau dying tonight confirms MM as town.
    Hau gets a check off tonight, I recommend Martin and Luka.
    Varcron chooses MM and Martin tonight.

    We execute Scumbot today.
    We use Helz ability tomorrow to get a confirmed and Oliver can also be used as a Vengeful or just execute him then just in case.
    This game play should be game winning
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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    We also can do Scumbot instead of Oliver as even if they are a wolf if we get rid of them last.

    Technically it is more optimal to do like:
    Scumbot Execution Today.
    Oliver Execution Tomorrow.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    to protect Hau*


    The best protection is Helz so um yeah.
    Helz is right they don’t need to use their ability until tomorrow.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    Ok I checked.
    Martin and Luka can protect you without issue.

    @Luka
    @Martin

    The way I see it there is no reason to check Hau because if wolves kill Hau then it just confirms MM as Town.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    If you want to use your ability on someone else you should do so today.
    However, perhaps there is something I’m not seeing.
    If the Protectives can 100% protect you tonight without issues then yes ok I can understand not using it on anyone today and makes sense why you don’t use it on me.

    But let me go over that.
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    It’s like you are just make optimally bad plays today.
    Like I don’t know why in the actual fuck you think not using your ability at all is better then targeting me.
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    @Helz
    Reads can be wrong.
    Despite my fantastic read accuracy on Lily and Cape I was wrong on what evil Mizery was.

    Mechanically Oliver and Scumbot both dying today makes town’s chance of winning basically almost 100%.
    Not killing Oliver and them being wolf loses us the game or has a damn good chance to, you understand this right?
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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    Clearly Mizery wanted me as their partner.

    Become their Evil Student.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    Also Mizery was that you that called me Evil Teacher last day phase?
    Lol.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    Plus I’m also trying to get this town win so I can say I won a game as Town without voting Once and link that person to this game here.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    There might also be a time where I end up voting and realize I forgot I can’t vote and people become sus and I don’t want that to happen.
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    If you don’t believe me, ping everyone alive and ask how confident they are that I am town.
    You will understand not everyone is 100% sure I am town.
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    @Helz

    You THINK you are doing the right thing not checking me but your WRONG.
    People are going to sus me late game.

    It is UNAVOIDABLE.
    You NEED to Green Check me so everyone knows I am Town 100%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I’m more confident simply lynching Scumbot hits mafia.

    Really not about lynching a town to kill another player. We just kill that player instead and keep our townie.
    Oliver can easily be a wolf though.
    It is optimally the best play to remove all but the 2 Protectives and 2 Same Alignment Checks.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    I was wondering if you were death immune forever that’s why I asked the host last night and he said no that when the bounty expires so does your death protection.
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    @Helz
    You also don’t understand.
    You are NOT night immune anymore, it wears off tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    Without the BH I’m probably going to live long time. I want to save that 1 shot for end game if it’s needed and I really don’t think DM needs checked. They are town and that would be a waste.
    It’s not a waste in case someone gets sceptical.
    You should use it on me.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    My mind thinks allot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    yeah DM is waaaay ahead of everyone here

    I'm starting to connect the dots, its preety clever
    I’m a very Underated player tbh and people call me “egotistical”
    I don’t try to me, I just go with what I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huo Huo and Mr Tail View Post
    IMO one of the protectives HAS to be true, because mafia didn't kill me or helz

    so 1 town in martin/luka

    1 town in scumbot/oliver
    I am way ahead of you lol.
    I also said the same thing but I then also restated it can just be: Scumbot/Oliver
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumbot5679 View Post
    I have 0 control over oliverz ability so if he decides to kill me then he just does but if he were a town vengeful then he shouldn't b/c I'm town and I just don't understand why anyone thinks I'm not. I kinda get MM's though since guy is mad that I've been calling him scum since d2.
    Well basically if MM is a wolf it has to be exactly with Tau Tau.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    Also as soon as a wolf flips anywhere in the 4, MM and Tau are confirmed town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    If there's any plan that can auto-win regardless of any one's alignment, then I'm all for it.

    Especially if it'd get DM to shoot down his own self-absorbed ego-addicted belief that I'm wolf.
    Never called you a wolf.
    I said you can be one mechanically.
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    @Scum bot

    If your town then it’s likely just Oliver as the wolf anyways.

    Again, see what’s left after you and Oliver:

    Helz
    2 Protective Claims
    2 Same Alignment Checks
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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    Actually you both need to protect Helz for this to work.
    Helz’s survival is key here.

    @Martin
    @Luka

    Protect Helz Tonight.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    That way we win automatically mechanically.
    I think…
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    So here’s the plan:
    Oliver Venge Kills Scumbot
    Varcron goes MM and Martin
    Tau goes MM and Luka

    @Helz
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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    Then when we do that Varcron targets MM and Martin if game doesn’t end?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huo Huo and Mr Tail View Post
    luka tough guy
    martin soul mate (i think)
    oliver vengeful
    dark magician sappling
    scumbot cat lady

    am I missing something?
    Your correct here.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    So Oliver gets executed and Venge kills Scumbot.
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    We can agree it’s never Luka/Martin right?
    Due to the lack of kills.

    So in such case if Oliver and Scumbot aren’t hits it’s just MM/Tau?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumbot5679 View Post
    ???? Didn't DM used to like me? what changed?
    I never said I townread you?
    I was uncertain of you and now you are in PoE of 4 with 2 for sure wolves unless the team is MM/Hau.
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