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[MENTION=46366]Trout[/MENTION]

You played a very strong wolf game, you weren't caught, I just found Ikarus as town

@Trout

You played a very strong wolf game, you weren't caught, I just found Ikarus as town

NICE

NICE

[vote]Trout[/vote]



Don't have the energy to explain why I think this is the solve right now.

Sorry if wrong! If I am wrong, then ikarus played an incredibly strong game for his first wolf game, massive props to him!

-vote Trout

Don't have the energy to explain why I think this is the solve right now.

Sorry if wrong! If I am wrong, then ikarus played an incredibly strong game for his first wolf game, massive props to him!

[MENTION=46366]Trout[/MENTION]

I'm probably going to hammer you unless you can convince me you're town with a town-casing of yourself

@Trout

I'm probably going to hammer you unless you can convince me you're town with a town-casing of yourself

I am mechanically confirmed town now by virtue of Stealth + Me not hammering Trout when we were both available to do so.

I will now find the last wolf, I think I already know who it is, but want to do my due diligence with backreading.

I am mechanically confirmed town now by virtue of Stealth + Me not hammering Trout when we were both available to do so.

I will now find the last wolf, I think I already know who it is, but want to do my due diligence with backreading.

[QUOTE=ikarusdk;973237]Yeah so FYPOV we should hammer SB. FMPOV we should hammer Trout.[/QUOTE]

Except you think SB is also a wolf and I'm not sure between you and Trout and need more time to think about it.


You're wolf-siding, I don't know if you're a wolf-siding wolf or a wolf-siding town though.

Originally Posted by ikarusdk

Yeah so FYPOV we should hammer SB. FMPOV we should hammer Trout.

Except you think SB is also a wolf and I'm not sure between you and Trout and need more time to think about it.


You're wolf-siding, I don't know if you're a wolf-siding wolf or a wolf-siding town though.

[QUOTE=Varcron;973238]I'd like discussion to keep happening for a little bit before we hammer, just want to get all the time we can, y'know?[/QUOTE]

Feel free to keep discussing your thoughts, I have to leave though shortly

Originally Posted by Varcron

I'd like discussion to keep happening for a little bit before we hammer, just want to get all the time we can, y'know?

Feel free to keep discussing your thoughts, I have to leave though shortly

[QUOTE=ikarusdk;973234]My vote will stay now that Varcron is here. What does worry me is SB was here and reading posts but left without saying anything.

If Varcron is hammering SB, I'll accept the result[/QUOTE]

Because he's literally a wolf and knows he's dying

[IMG]https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/875975120030674966.webp?size=96&quality=lossless[/IMG]

Originally Posted by ikarusdk

My vote will stay now that Varcron is here. What does worry me is SB was here and reading posts but left without saying anything.

If Varcron is hammering SB, I'll accept the result

Because he's literally a wolf and knows he's dying

[QUOTE=ikarusdk;973233]Mabel, after this post why are you still unsure I am not town[/QUOTE]

Because your reasoning for SB ika not being the team doesn't add up.

Varc is never voting me over SB16 - so putting your vote on me will be in vain as Varc hammers SB16 and then we go to a F3 where I'm confirmed as town and you look awful for not voting the then-flipped wolf.

Originally Posted by ikarusdk

Mabel, after this post why are you still unsure I am not town

Because your reasoning for SB ika not being the team doesn't add up.

Varc is never voting me over SB16 - so putting your vote on me will be in vain as Varc hammers SB16 and then we go to a F3 where I'm confirmed as town and you look awful for not voting the then-flipped wolf.

[QUOTE=Varcron;973231]I agree with that, though we still have time before EOD so there's no need to rush. Who is your second scumread btw?[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure.

Trout's been more consistent but ikarus has had townier moments - but ikarus has also had wolfier moments.

I would like the additional 48 hours to solve those two, if you have any particular thoughts on why you think Ikarus is town (or wolf) make sure to note them down.

I think it's very important you do hammer SB16 here though because that then mechanically confirms me as town and I have to find the wolf between ikar and trout
Whereas if you hammer Trout and Trout is town, we lose.
If you hammer Trout, and ikarus doesn't untunnel off of me, then we also lose.

Originally Posted by Varcron

I agree with that, though we still have time before EOD so there's no need to rush. Who is your second scumread btw?

I'm not sure.

Trout's been more consistent but ikarus has had townier moments - but ikarus has also had wolfier moments.

I would like the additional 48 hours to solve those two, if you have any particular thoughts on why you think Ikarus is town (or wolf) make sure to note them down.

I think it's very important you do hammer SB16 here though because that then mechanically confirms me as town and I have to find the wolf between ikar and trout
Whereas if you hammer Trout and Trout is town, we lose.
If you hammer Trout, and ikarus doesn't untunnel off of me, then we also lose.

[QUOTE=Varcron;973227]My thought process behind it would be because it's the least likely play available that a trout/SB team votes against SB[/QUOTE]

Exactly - they realize you've already turned against SB and so now they're WIFOMing


I'm not as convinced on Trout vs ikarusdk as you, but I think you should always be killing SB here.

Originally Posted by Varcron

My thought process behind it would be because it's the least likely play available that a trout/SB team votes against SB

Exactly - they realize you've already turned against SB and so now they're WIFOMing


I'm not as convinced on Trout vs ikarusdk as you, but I think you should always be killing SB here.

[QUOTE=MartinGG99;972886]

One of the Town are given glorified role, the Lazy Town sheriff. They will quit the job (game) as soon as one mafia is eliminated, and don't have any special powers beyond having a unique name.
[/QUOTE]


[MENTION=36817]ikarusdk[/MENTION]


If you're town, you missed this part of the setup

Originally Posted by MartinGG99

One of the Town are given glorified role, the Lazy Town sheriff. They will quit the job (game) as soon as one mafia is eliminated, and don't have any special powers beyond having a unique name.

@ikarusdk


If you're town, you missed this part of the setup

You're also not thinking ahead at all - Why would a Trout / SB team vote SB here?

There's an easy answer

Because if Trout is voting SB and you're not - then you look horrible going into that F3 for nearly losing town the game by not voting correctly.

You're also not thinking ahead at all - Why would a Trout / SB team vote SB here?

There's an easy answer

Because if Trout is voting SB and you're not - then you look horrible going into that F3 for nearly losing town the game by not voting correctly.

[QUOTE=ikarusdk;973220]Mabel, you are asking me to hammer on SB who I view as town as of this morning. I thought I had made myself clear why I viewed Trout as scum and why I am town. Even if I was 50 50 between you and SB, all logic dictates I push votes on Trout.

Instead, you are asking me to risk a chance to lose, when we can guarantee a win tomorrow with Trout lynch[/QUOTE]

The sheriff dies if a wolf is chopped.

It goes from 3v2 to 2v1

Originally Posted by ikarusdk

Mabel, you are asking me to hammer on SB who I view as town as of this morning. I thought I had made myself clear why I viewed Trout as scum and why I am town. Even if I was 50 50 between you and SB, all logic dictates I push votes on Trout.

Instead, you are asking me to risk a chance to lose, when we can guarantee a win tomorrow with Trout lynch

The sheriff dies if a wolf is chopped.

It goes from 3v2 to 2v1

Also [MENTION=36817]ikarusdk[/MENTION]


The sheriff dies after 1 scum dies.

The game either ends in a loss right now or it's 2v1 tomorrow

Also @ikarusdk


The sheriff dies after 1 scum dies.

The game either ends in a loss right now or it's 2v1 tomorrow

[QUOTE=MartinGG99;973086][MENTION=45982]oliverz144[/MENTION] dies to tie RNG and flips town

creation of an EoD2 countdown will be put into 1st post soon[/QUOTE]

This was 46 hours ago - it's almost [I]been[/I] 48 hours, Varc

Originally Posted by MartinGG99

@oliverz144 dies to tie RNG and flips town

creation of an EoD2 countdown will be put into 1st post soon

This was 46 hours ago - it's almost been 48 hours, Varc

Also, seriously [MENTION=43484]Varcron[/MENTION] ??

What are you doing just not showing up for two EoDs in a row without even dropping a vote, :/ :/ :/

Also, seriously @Varcron ??

What are you doing just not showing up for two EoDs in a row without even dropping a vote, :/ :/ :/

ika please just hammer SB - if Varcron doesn't show up wolves can just tie the vote at the last second.

If you refuse to hammer SB, I will absolutely treat that as a scum claim in F3

ika please just hammer SB - if Varcron doesn't show up wolves can just tie the vote at the last second.

If you refuse to hammer SB, I will absolutely treat that as a scum claim in F3

[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;973195]I have no idea how you feel you can justify pinging the two town members to vote me. That’s literally openwolfing.[/QUOTE]

you_irl

[IMG]https://media.tenor.com/51gaSlicHIYAAAAC/woof-trebek.gif[/IMG]

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

I have no idea how you feel you can justify pinging the two town members to vote me. That’s literally openwolfing.

you_irl

Also [MENTION=43484]Varcron[/MENTION]

Please vote SB16 before EoD

We need your vote!

Also @Varcron

Please vote SB16 before EoD

We need your vote!

ikarus's worldview of wanting to chop Trout today is internally consistent - since from a town~Ikarus POV Trout is pretty confirmed wolf.


[MENTION=36817]ikarusdk[/MENTION]

Let's chop SB today.

Trout looks like a wolf to you because you know you're town, but no one else can know that, so for everyone else the chop between you and Trout isn't as clear.


I am never wrong in F3 so I'm very confident that town just wins this at this point, if you're town you can rest easily knowing I'll find you. If you're wolf, sorry for your loss :p

ikarus's worldview of wanting to chop Trout today is internally consistent - since from a town~Ikarus POV Trout is pretty confirmed wolf.


@ikarusdk

Let's chop SB today.

Trout looks like a wolf to you because you know you're town, but no one else can know that, so for everyone else the chop between you and Trout isn't as clear.


I am never wrong in F3 so I'm very confident that town just wins this at this point, if you're town you can rest easily knowing I'll find you. If you're wolf, sorry for your loss

Stealth is pretty hard thread-spewed wolf at this point.

Early in the game no one wanted to put pressure on Stealth
Now that Stealth looks like the chop everyone wants to be on the record as having scumread him.

Stealth is pretty hard thread-spewed wolf at this point.

Early in the game no one wanted to put pressure on Stealth
Now that Stealth looks like the chop everyone wants to be on the record as having scumread him.

[vote]Stealthbomber16[/vote]

-vote Stealthbomber16

Some fun facts about that game:

The game was 12,114 posts
in 16 days
757 posts per day
but really it was
taking out night phases
Days 1-3 were full 48 hours
Day 4 was 30 hours
Day 5 was 48 hours
Day 6 was 4 hours
12,114 posts in 226 hours
nearly a new post per minute
continuously
for 226 hours

Some fun facts about that game:

The game was 12,114 posts
in 16 days
757 posts per day
but really it was
taking out night phases
Days 1-3 were full 48 hours
Day 4 was 30 hours
Day 5 was 48 hours
Day 6 was 4 hours
12,114 posts in 226 hours
nearly a new post per minute
continuously
for 226 hours

[QUOTE=ikarusdk;973176]OR you were finding reasons for others to scum read me... all your earlier lengthy posts were about how the first lynch would be about the most polarized players here, Oliver, Me, Trout. Then further cemented that idea with reasons why I am scum, why I am the player in your analysis in pairings.

I am not scum reading you simply because you scum read me.[/QUOTE]

Let me tell you a story:
I recently played a game with a stacked playerlist.
One player in that game is known for having exceptionally good reads.

His name is Mac. Every time Mac would make a scumread the person he scumread freaked out at him and scumread him back. They used reasons like "I don't think town Mac would be so wrong about me"

Mac was town. But other players kept scumreading him simply for being wrong about them that he ended up getting tinfoil pushed on day 1.

I was a wolf in that game, and it was quite nice to see town taking care of one of the most dangerous players in the list for us!

Getting reads in mafia is a process. No one starts with perfect reads, and even refined reads are still going to be wrong quite often. It's the nature of the game. As town part of your responsibilities is to work with other town to find each other.

So if you're town here, tell me, what are all the reasons you think I should be townreading you?

Originally Posted by ikarusdk

OR you were finding reasons for others to scum read me... all your earlier lengthy posts were about how the first lynch would be about the most polarized players here, Oliver, Me, Trout. Then further cemented that idea with reasons why I am scum, why I am the player in your analysis in pairings.

I am not scum reading you simply because you scum read me.

Let me tell you a story:
I recently played a game with a stacked playerlist.
One player in that game is known for having exceptionally good reads.

His name is Mac. Every time Mac would make a scumread the person he scumread freaked out at him and scumread him back. They used reasons like "I don't think town Mac would be so wrong about me"

Mac was town. But other players kept scumreading him simply for being wrong about them that he ended up getting tinfoil pushed on day 1.

I was a wolf in that game, and it was quite nice to see town taking care of one of the most dangerous players in the list for us!

Getting reads in mafia is a process. No one starts with perfect reads, and even refined reads are still going to be wrong quite often. It's the nature of the game. As town part of your responsibilities is to work with other town to find each other.

So if you're town here, tell me, what are all the reasons you think I should be townreading you?

I'm kind of torn on Ikarus vs Trout though

They both have townie moments

Ikarus has had wolfy moments though, but also Trout's general playstyle is less polarizing so it puts him at less risk to have wolfy moments at all.

So not really confident there at all.


Ironic, considering going in I thought they would be the most polarized lol

I'm kind of torn on Ikarus vs Trout though

They both have townie moments

Ikarus has had wolfy moments though, but also Trout's general playstyle is less polarizing so it puts him at less risk to have wolfy moments at all.

So not really confident there at all.


Ironic, considering going in I thought they would be the most polarized lol

[QUOTE=FM-Mabel Pines;973166][vote]Trout[/vote][/QUOTE]

If the team is Stealth + Ikarus, you could have won here :p

Originally Posted by FM-Mabel Pines

-vote Trout

If the team is Stealth + Ikarus, you could have won here

[vote]unvote[/vote]

-vote unvote

[vote]Trout[/vote]

-vote Trout

gosh, I just don't see a world where stealth isn't just a wolf lol

gosh, I just don't see a world where stealth isn't just a wolf lol

My take on you is that - your reasons for scumreading me are super flimsy and ignore the majority of my posts this game and are just hyperfocused on an opening reason you had to scumread me which isn't even applicable anymore because oliver flipped town.

I think it shows a lack of development in your reads and I think you don't actually know any good reasons to be scumreading me here?


It raises red flags.

My take on you is that - your reasons for scumreading me are super flimsy and ignore the majority of my posts this game and are just hyperfocused on an opening reason you had to scumread me which isn't even applicable anymore because oliver flipped town.

I think it shows a lack of development in your reads and I think you don't actually know any good reasons to be scumreading me here?


It raises red flags.

[QUOTE=ikarusdk;973159]Because I started suspecting you the moment you didnt answer Varcron about CC, which made me think you were potentially buying time to come up with a reason if It was a legit claim, because it would've been a bad CC and once I pointed that out you said it was a joke.

Also I didnt like that you town read Oliver based on three word posts he made and this was before anything serious had been said

At that point I was only suspecting you COUlD be scum.

But then you declared me as scumlist because I voiced my opinions on the day this far, and because I put you specifically in light.

Also I had been pretty open about my thought process and I thought I had been pretty open to be townread.

Because of this, I believed you were trying to put me on the spot to be scumread instead of leaving others townread me, by finding reasons to scum read me.

If you were town, I dont think you wouldve done that.[/QUOTE]



The last time the game was run everyone in the game claimed sheriff on the first page - Varcron was in that game too, me claiming sheriff on page 1 there was a reference to that game which (sadly) Varcron didn't pick up on.


I was right about oliver - so now why do you not like it? What was my agenda with townreading oliver there? Clearing a town that would otherwise be an easy elimination?



The other reasons you said are just OMGUS - scumreading me because I scumread you.

Originally Posted by ikarusdk

Because I started suspecting you the moment you didnt answer Varcron about CC, which made me think you were potentially buying time to come up with a reason if It was a legit claim, because it would've been a bad CC and once I pointed that out you said it was a joke.

Also I didnt like that you town read Oliver based on three word posts he made and this was before anything serious had been said

At that point I was only suspecting you COUlD be scum.

But then you declared me as scumlist because I voiced my opinions on the day this far, and because I put you specifically in light.

Also I had been pretty open about my thought process and I thought I had been pretty open to be townread.

Because of this, I believed you were trying to put me on the spot to be scumread instead of leaving others townread me, by finding reasons to scum read me.

If you were town, I dont think you wouldve done that.

The last time the game was run everyone in the game claimed sheriff on the first page - Varcron was in that game too, me claiming sheriff on page 1 there was a reference to that game which (sadly) Varcron didn't pick up on.


I was right about oliver - so now why do you not like it? What was my agenda with townreading oliver there? Clearing a town that would otherwise be an easy elimination?



The other reasons you said are just OMGUS - scumreading me because I scumread you.

Follow-up:

Where did you hear the term "too townie to be town" from?

Follow-up:

Where did you hear the term "too townie to be town" from?

[QUOTE=ikarusdk;973155]Yes please do[/QUOTE]

Why do you scumread me?

You have 5 minutes to answer this. Type as much as you can in those 5 minutes and then once those 5 minutes are up, hit post.

I don't care if you don't finish in time, I want the response after 5 minutes.

Originally Posted by ikarusdk

Yes please do

Why do you scumread me?

You have 5 minutes to answer this. Type as much as you can in those 5 minutes and then once those 5 minutes are up, hit post.

I don't care if you don't finish in time, I want the response after 5 minutes.

[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;973150]Because imagine if it were true[/QUOTE]

I think we're probably the most obvious antipairing of the game at this point after I campaigned to murderize you.

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

Because imagine if it were true

I think we're probably the most obvious antipairing of the game at this point after I campaigned to murderize you.

[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;973147]Fucking based.[/QUOTE]

Why do you think that?

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

Fucking based.

Why do you think that?

[MENTION=36817]ikarusdk[/MENTION]

I have a time sensitive question for you. Are you here to answer it?

@ikarusdk

I have a time sensitive question for you. Are you here to answer it?

[MENTION=15807]Stealthbomber16[/MENTION]

Unvote for now?

[vote]unvote[/vote]

@Stealthbomber16

Unvote for now?

-vote unvote

ikarus just not saying anything is starting to make me paranoid about the team actually being ikarus + Trout and ikarus is just waiting for Trout to wake up lol

ikarus just not saying anything is starting to make me paranoid about the team actually being ikarus + Trout and ikarus is just waiting for Trout to wake up lol

I am pretty sure Trout is asleep right now - based on the time he said he's going to bed he's probably somewhere in Europe and so he won't be awake for a few hours now.


If you think that the team could be Trout / Ikarus then please let me know.


If you are town and you think it could be Trout / Ikarus then it's your duty to mention that now, and if you don't then you can't blame me for voting you here after the game lol

I am pretty sure Trout is asleep right now - based on the time he said he's going to bed he's probably somewhere in Europe and so he won't be awake for a few hours now.


If you think that the team could be Trout / Ikarus then please let me know.


If you are town and you think it could be Trout / Ikarus then it's your duty to mention that now, and if you don't then you can't blame me for voting you here after the game lol

If I'm wrong here:

Sorry Varcron - you were right on Stealth being town. lol~me

And Stealth - well you should have put more time into this game!!! lol. Hopefully you can agree with me though that Trout + Ikarus had great wolf games here and so if they're the wolf team I wouldn't even be upset losing to that.

If I'm wrong here:

Sorry Varcron - you were right on Stealth being town. lol~me

And Stealth - well you should have put more time into this game!!! lol. Hopefully you can agree with me though that Trout + Ikarus had great wolf games here and so if they're the wolf team I wouldn't even be upset losing to that.

[vote]Stealthbomber16[/vote]

I think I'd wager the game on this - not unvoting.

[MENTION=46366]Trout[/MENTION]
[MENTION=36817]ikarusdk[/MENTION]


If you two are the mafia team, feel free to hammer this.

-vote Stealthbomber16

I think I'd wager the game on this - not unvoting.

@Trout
@ikarusdk


If you two are the mafia team, feel free to hammer this.

[QUOTE=Varcron;973117]Imo the pairing is probably Stealth+Trout


Ikar I think is town based off of how he's been acting and I think Mabel has been solving and asking good questions/pointing out useful info constantly.[/QUOTE]

Please vote stealth first then

I think stealth almost always flips wolf here whereas Trout sometimes flips town.

Originally Posted by Varcron

Imo the pairing is probably Stealth+Trout


Ikar I think is town based off of how he's been acting and I think Mabel has been solving and asking good questions/pointing out useful info constantly.

Please vote stealth first then

I think stealth almost always flips wolf here whereas Trout sometimes flips town.

[QUOTE=ikarusdk;973106]But I dont know if I can trust you right now because you've been scum reading me all game, which makes me doubt your judgement (with all due respect) because you are obviously wrong about me if you were town. So I need to take what you said with a grain if salt and go with my instinct when I have more time and on pc because using my phone in an outdoor setting is a little difficult[/QUOTE]

A common mistake in FM is assuming that because someone is wrong about one thing, it means they're wrong about everything.

Or assuming that because they were right about one thing, they're right about everything.


In general players will have a baseline rate at which they're accurate - but then within a given game, just because they've been wrong once or twice, it doesn't mean that all their reads are wrong - the rest of their reads are going to just be at roughly their baseline accuracy rate.


I think you're a wolf with stealth - but I think the Stealth/Trout team is also entirely possible, which is why I wanted to chop Stealth yesterday, because Stealth was always a wolf, but as for his +1 I was less confident.

Originally Posted by ikarusdk

But I dont know if I can trust you right now because you've been scum reading me all game, which makes me doubt your judgement (with all due respect) because you are obviously wrong about me if you were town. So I need to take what you said with a grain if salt and go with my instinct when I have more time and on pc because using my phone in an outdoor setting is a little difficult

A common mistake in FM is assuming that because someone is wrong about one thing, it means they're wrong about everything.

Or assuming that because they were right about one thing, they're right about everything.


In general players will have a baseline rate at which they're accurate - but then within a given game, just because they've been wrong once or twice, it doesn't mean that all their reads are wrong - the rest of their reads are going to just be at roughly their baseline accuracy rate.


I think you're a wolf with stealth - but I think the Stealth/Trout team is also entirely possible, which is why I wanted to chop Stealth yesterday, because Stealth was always a wolf, but as for his +1 I was less confident.

[QUOTE=ikarusdk;973105]As I explained before, I wanted you to be lynched because I scum read you. SB was going to be next if we mislynch you, with trout being his teammate. But since Oli was mislynched, j am back to where I started.

I mean by what you said in above post, we should be lynching SB and Trout but I would like some more time to contemplate your posts and others before I can come to a conclusion because i cannot be wrong today[/QUOTE]



Why do you scumread me?


And thinking about this scenario from the perspective of who you scumread the most today isn't the right way to go about it. Wolves are working adversarially - they're trying to look townie. And as you said, you don't think there's much to read individual players off of. I disagree but the thing that [I]is[/I] much easier to read than just individual players is pairings.


There are three teams - all you have to do is rule out one pairing as a not possible wolf team and then you've got yourself someone who is always a wolf from your POV.

The thing with ruling out individual pairings is that it's much easier to actually be accurate with it. Wolves are constantly working to look townie, but they're [I]not[/I] constantly working to look like they can be potentially paired with every player - there will naturally be antipairings that emerge and being able to identify those is one of the keys to winning lylo scenarios.

Originally Posted by ikarusdk

As I explained before, I wanted you to be lynched because I scum read you. SB was going to be next if we mislynch you, with trout being his teammate. But since Oli was mislynched, j am back to where I started.

I mean by what you said in above post, we should be lynching SB and Trout but I would like some more time to contemplate your posts and others before I can come to a conclusion because i cannot be wrong today

Why do you scumread me?


And thinking about this scenario from the perspective of who you scumread the most today isn't the right way to go about it. Wolves are working adversarially - they're trying to look townie. And as you said, you don't think there's much to read individual players off of. I disagree but the thing that is much easier to read than just individual players is pairings.


There are three teams - all you have to do is rule out one pairing as a not possible wolf team and then you've got yourself someone who is always a wolf from your POV.

The thing with ruling out individual pairings is that it's much easier to actually be accurate with it. Wolves are constantly working to look townie, but they're not constantly working to look like they can be potentially paired with every player - there will naturally be antipairings that emerge and being able to identify those is one of the keys to winning lylo scenarios.

[QUOTE=ikarusdk;973100]I just hope that I will have more things to read and work on today.[/QUOTE]

More things to read?

I literally made like a dozen long posts to wall posts earlier about the content we've already seen - there's plenty of alignment indicative stuff to read right now.


Right now, no stalling, what are your thoughts on the game?
What are your reads - there's only three possible teams from your POV, right?

So which one do you think is the least likely?

Which one do you think is the most likely?

Originally Posted by ikarusdk

I just hope that I will have more things to read and work on today.

More things to read?

I literally made like a dozen long posts to wall posts earlier about the content we've already seen - there's plenty of alignment indicative stuff to read right now.


Right now, no stalling, what are your thoughts on the game?
What are your reads - there's only three possible teams from your POV, right?

So which one do you think is the least likely?

Which one do you think is the most likely?

[QUOTE=ikarusdk;973099]I have some pairs in mind, but I've left home right now after the result but will be back in a few hours. As today progresses, things will hopefully become clearer to me.

But it will all come down to
Mabel SB
Mable Trout
SB Trout[/QUOTE]

???

We've just played an entire day of FM - you were already townreading oliver - there shouldn't be a huge re-evaluation for you here, there's no new insights shaking up your world view, why are your reads still so hands off?

You just listed every possible team that doesn't include you, you basically said nothing.

We're on day 2 and you're basically hard claiming to have no reads here.

This is suuuuuuuuuuper different from the town ikarus I shadow hydra'd with last time.

Originally Posted by ikarusdk

I have some pairs in mind, but I've left home right now after the result but will be back in a few hours. As today progresses, things will hopefully become clearer to me.

But it will all come down to
Mabel SB
Mable Trout
SB Trout

???

We've just played an entire day of FM - you were already townreading oliver - there shouldn't be a huge re-evaluation for you here, there's no new insights shaking up your world view, why are your reads still so hands off?

You just listed every possible team that doesn't include you, you basically said nothing.

We're on day 2 and you're basically hard claiming to have no reads here.

This is suuuuuuuuuuper different from the town ikarus I shadow hydra'd with last time.

I'm mad.


Literally get the right reads and then people just don't play the game, at [I]least[/I] half the town players just didn't show up for EoD - like oliver just signs for shit min posts at the start of the day and then goes AWOL - what the fuck?

And where Varc never even voted. This is seriously tilting.

I'm mad.


Literally get the right reads and then people just don't play the game, at least half the town players just didn't show up for EoD - like oliver just signs for shit min posts at the start of the day and then goes AWOL - what the fuck?

And where Varc never even voted. This is seriously tilting.

[QUOTE=ikarusdk;973094]Yeah but with much higher risk. SB dying there and flipping town would've reduced scumlist down to Trout/Mabel to me since I was progressively believing Oliver was town. But with Oli dying, the stakes are much higher.[/QUOTE]

What do you think the scum team is right now?

Originally Posted by ikarusdk

Yeah but with much higher risk. SB dying there and flipping town would've reduced scumlist down to Trout/Mabel to me since I was progressively believing Oliver was town. But with Oli dying, the stakes are much higher.

What do you think the scum team is right now?

I think stealth is like - pretty much always a wolf here?

I think stealth is like - pretty much always a wolf here?