[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]00:08[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]anything fun is just a distraction[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]00:11[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]from how much this world actually sucks[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]00:13[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]minnors saves are shit[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]00:15[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]-repick[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]00:15[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]repick[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]00:16[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]repick[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]00:16[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]repick[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]00:17[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]repick[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]00:21[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]schizophreni[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]draco this isnt the first time u threw like a retard[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]00:24[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]repick next time[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]00:29[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]schizophreni[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]-Lynch faggots[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]01:02[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]schizophreni[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]lynch me fags[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]01:12[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]-lw[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]01:37[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]-lw[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]02:35[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]-lw[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]02:42[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]-lw[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]03:05[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]so[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]03:07[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]who is confirmed vet[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]03:08[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]2?[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]03:27[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]-pm 2 Constable[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]03:49[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]wait[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]03:50[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]my name changed[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]03:50[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]haha[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]03:54[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]I'm bad word spammer[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]04:37[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]Inno this, keep this BG on me. He's also got a fat ass[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]04:37[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]Inno this, keep this BG on me. He's also got a fat ass[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]04:38[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]Inno this, keep this BG on me. He's also got a fat ass[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]04:38[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]Inno this, keep this BG on me. He's also got a fat ass[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]04:38[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]Inno this, keep this BG on me. He's also got a fat ass[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]04:39[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]Inno this, keep this BG on me. He's also got a fat ass[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]04:39[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]Inno this, keep this BG on me. He's also got a fat ass[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]05:18[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]If you killed my bodyguard who not only guards my body, but also pleasures me[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]05:21[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]I'm gonna be mad[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]05:29[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]IM GONNA DIE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]05:30[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]IM GONNA DIE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]05:33[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]schizophreni[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]2 YOU RETARD[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]05:34[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]YOU IDIOT[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]05:41[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]-lw[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]06:42[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]phew poisoner wasnt on me, his LW was a lie who woulda thought[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]06:42[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]-lw[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]06:57[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]there goes crier[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]07:02[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]and 2nd BD[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]07:16[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]dont lynch me[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]07:22[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]I am constable[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]07:27[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]tell me who to shoot[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]07:29[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]go on then[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]07:35[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]schizophreni[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]u fucking cunt[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]07:36[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]schizophreni[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]kys[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]07:38[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]next time odnt say liar[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]07:39[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]schizophreni[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]you fucking autistic cunt[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]07:40[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]schizophreni[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]kys 2[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]07:41[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]schizophreni[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]2 kys[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]07:44[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]doubt me again[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]07:47[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]yeah[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]07:48[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]schizophreni[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]too small brained[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]07:53[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]constable is easiest to prove[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]07:54[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]so you out me[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]07:59[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]schizophreni[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]go fuck yourself[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]08:08[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]yeah lads maybe PM me roles too so I know what the fuck is up[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]09:13[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]You won the 10 dollars, but almost everyone is claiming ur up to no good.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]10:02[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]I'm not the one in lead retard[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]10:06[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]2 is leading[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]10:13[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]-lw[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]10:15[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]14 lied then[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]10:16[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]that eas[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]10:20[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]easy as that[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]10:58[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]-lw[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]11:17[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]finally[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]11:44[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]any random was town[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]11:46[/TD]
[TD]schizophreni[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]govn[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[/SPOILER]
Looking at what has been said, and information, content provided in above posts, I would say it's unlikely this person is Rachyl.
This replay is taking place at a specific timeline where Rachyl was extremely present.
Nonetheless, a Griefing case is definitely present.
[I][SIZE=4][U][B]I also recommend to have a look at the last section "Additional Notes".[/B][/U][/SIZE][/I]
Whether your behaviour is influenced by genuine mental health concerns or not, any actions deemed unacceptable will result in appropriate consequences.
As highlighted in the summaries provided, it has been noted that certain actions you have taken are considered inappropriate.
Continued disregard for the rules may lead to escalated punishment.
I recommend directly reaching a banlist the next time you are seen to be toxic to such an extent.
ID VERIFICATION
schizophreni 1-S2-1-10186656 Correct
SUMMARY
Spoiler : log :
I
00:08
schizophreni
ALL
anything fun is just a distraction
I
00:11
schizophreni
ALL
from how much this world actually sucks
I
00:13
schizophreni
ALL
minnors saves are shit
I
00:15
schizophreni
ALL
-repick
I
00:15
schizophreni
ALL
repick
I
00:16
schizophreni
ALL
repick
I
00:16
schizophreni
ALL
repick
I
00:17
schizophreni
ALL
repick
I
00:21
schizophreni
ALL
draco this isnt the first time u threw like a retard
I
00:24
schizophreni
ALL
repick next time
I
00:29
schizophreni
ALL
-Lynch faggots
I
01:02
schizophreni
ALL
lynch me fags
I
01:12
schizophreni
ALL
-lw
I
01:37
schizophreni
ALL
-lw
I
02:35
schizophreni
ALL
-lw
I
02:42
schizophreni
ALL
-lw
I
03:05
schizophreni
ALL
so
I
03:07
schizophreni
ALL
who is confirmed vet
I
03:08
schizophreni
ALL
2?
I
03:27
schizophreni
ALL
-pm 2 Constable
I
03:49
schizophreni
ALL
wait
I
03:50
schizophreni
ALL
my name changed
I
03:50
schizophreni
ALL
haha
I
03:54
schizophreni
ALL
I'm bad word spammer
I
04:37
schizophreni
ALL
Inno this, keep this BG on me. He's also got a fat ass
I
04:37
schizophreni
ALL
Inno this, keep this BG on me. He's also got a fat ass
I
04:38
schizophreni
ALL
Inno this, keep this BG on me. He's also got a fat ass
I
04:38
schizophreni
ALL
Inno this, keep this BG on me. He's also got a fat ass
I
04:38
schizophreni
ALL
Inno this, keep this BG on me. He's also got a fat ass
I
04:39
schizophreni
ALL
Inno this, keep this BG on me. He's also got a fat ass
I
04:39
schizophreni
ALL
Inno this, keep this BG on me. He's also got a fat ass
I
05:18
schizophreni
ALL
If you killed my bodyguard who not only guards my body, but also pleasures me
I
05:21
schizophreni
ALL
I'm gonna be mad
I
05:29
schizophreni
ALL
IM GONNA DIE
I
05:30
schizophreni
ALL
IM GONNA DIE
I
05:33
schizophreni
ALL
2 YOU RETARD
I
05:34
schizophreni
ALL
YOU IDIOT
I
05:41
schizophreni
ALL
-lw
I
06:42
schizophreni
ALL
phew poisoner wasnt on me, his LW was a lie who woulda thought
I
06:42
schizophreni
ALL
-lw
I
06:57
schizophreni
ALL
there goes crier
I
07:02
schizophreni
ALL
and 2nd BD
I
07:16
schizophreni
ALL
dont lynch me
I
07:22
schizophreni
ALL
I am constable
I
07:27
schizophreni
ALL
tell me who to shoot
I
07:29
schizophreni
ALL
go on then
I
07:35
schizophreni
ALL
u fucking cunt
I
07:36
schizophreni
ALL
kys
I
07:38
schizophreni
ALL
next time odnt say liar
I
07:39
schizophreni
ALL
you fucking autistic cunt
I
07:40
schizophreni
ALL
kys 2
I
07:41
schizophreni
ALL
2 kys
I
07:44
schizophreni
ALL
doubt me again
I
07:47
schizophreni
ALL
yeah
I
07:48
schizophreni
ALL
too small brained
I
07:53
schizophreni
ALL
constable is easiest to prove
I
07:54
schizophreni
ALL
so you out me
I
07:59
schizophreni
ALL
go fuck yourself
I
08:08
schizophreni
ALL
yeah lads maybe PM me roles too so I know what the fuck is up
I
09:13
schizophreni
ALL
You won the 10 dollars, but almost everyone is claiming ur up to no good.
I
10:02
schizophreni
ALL
I'm not the one in lead retard
I
10:06
schizophreni
ALL
2 is leading
I
10:13
schizophreni
ALL
-lw
I
10:15
schizophreni
ALL
14 lied then
I
10:16
schizophreni
ALL
that eas
I
10:20
schizophreni
ALL
easy as that
I
10:58
schizophreni
ALL
-lw
I
11:17
schizophreni
ALL
finally
I
11:44
schizophreni
ALL
any random was town
I
11:46
schizophreni
ALL
govn
Looking at what has been said, and information, content provided in above posts, I would say it's unlikely this person is Rachyl.
This replay is taking place at a specific timeline where Rachyl was extremely present.
Nonetheless, a Griefing case is definitely present.
I also recommend to have a look at the last section "Additional Notes".
PLAYER OFFENSES
Griefing (Repetitive Insulting, Personal Threat)
PREVIOUS OFFENSES
None.
RECOMMENDED ACTION
Go back to the initially planned punishment : WLx4
ADDITIONAL NOTES
Whether your behaviour is influenced by genuine mental health concerns or not, any actions deemed unacceptable will result in appropriate consequences.
As highlighted in the summaries provided, it has been noted that certain actions you have taken are considered inappropriate.
Continued disregard for the rules may lead to escalated punishment.
I recommend directly reaching a banlist the next time you are seen to be toxic to such an extent.
Zesters : BLx4 for Racism (Oct 2023), 2x banlist for slurs at [URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/51046-StarChild-Gamethrowing"]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...d-Gamethrowing[/URL] (Sep 2023)
Meow : Slur Usage (WLx2, Sep 2023) (previously known as "Tom")
MrJazzHands : Leave-Train (WLx3, June 2020), Bank Hacking (Pointbanned, Feb 2020)
BestPlayer : Already noticed to have picked that name back in Nov 2023 ([url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/51151-Firemad-1-S2-1-527159-meanie-1-S2-1-830635[/url])
WLx4 Dec 2023 (Griefing, IRL threats, Repetitive Insulting)
BLx4 in July 2023 for Slur Usage, Witch-Hunting, Griefing. 2x WL in March 2023 for toxicity, and an on hold before that for personal threats.
fuck the mods. they can go fucking die. nigger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PLAYER OFFENSES
Other (Racism)
PREVIOUS OFFENSES
WLx4 Dec 2023 (Griefing, IRL threats, Repetitive Insulting)
BLx4 in July 2023 for Slur Usage, Witch-Hunting, Griefing. 2x WL in March 2023 for toxicity, and an on hold before that for personal threats.
RECOMMENDED ACTION
BLx2
ADDITIONAL NOTES
Time for a little break for him, I guess
Thanks for the report !
[U][COLOR=#EE82EE][B]Replay 58 and 935 (same) :[/B][/COLOR][/U]
MrHands rolls ENCHANTRESS in slot #5. [COLOR=#FFA500]He also chooses the name "Ass Penetrator"[/COLOR].
N1: MrHands is jailed, claims ENCHANTRESS.
[COLOR=#FFA500]MrHands adds to his lw "fuck this fag jailor".[/COLOR]
The JAILOR (#9) is killed this night revealing his lw (so everyone knows MrHands was jailed and couldn't move)
D2: [COLOR=#FFA500]Out of the blue, MrHands says "its 15" [15 is PonyPony with his shiny name].
Pony asks what's the reason, to what MrHands answers "15".
Pony points out MrHands was jailed according to dead JAILOR's lw.
MrHands claims he wasn't jailed.
People feel MrHands is trolling and therefore put him up.
Does not claim any role, does not defend himself, just adds something along the lines "Why would you say I'm jester and put me up".
He is guiltied 2-0, and flips ENCHANTRESS.[/COLOR]
It's okay to test someone, but it's not okay to not know when to back off before falling into the Griefing box.
[U][COLOR=#EE82EE][B]Replay 930 :[/B][/COLOR][/U]
Prior to 935.
[COLOR=#FFA500]MrHands - "Great Big Faggot" [/COLOR]- VETERAN - #13
[SPOILER="chat log"]
[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]00:18[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500][D1KS]MrHands[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]youre a bastard[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]00:21[/TD]
[TD][D1KS]MrHands[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]-repick[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]00:39[/TD]
[TD][D1KS]MrHands[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]00:44[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500][D1KS]MrHands[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]-Great Big Faggot[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]01:15[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500][D1KS]MrHands[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]why are communists all faggots?[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]01:29[/TD]
[TD][D1KS]MrHands[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]why did this shit state colorado[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]01:31[/TD]
[TD][D1KS]MrHands[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]ban trump[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]01:35[/TD]
[TD][D1KS]MrHands[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]they are literally the only state to ban him[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]02:07[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500][D1KS]MrHands[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]im sick of these loud faggots making trannies play in womens teams[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]02:16[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500][D1KS]MrHands[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]why dont we see any female to male trannies on mens teams[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]03:02[/TD]
[TD][D1KS]MrHands[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]2 came up mafia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]03:19[/TD]
[TD][D1KS]MrHands[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]its two and i also suspect 12 i will check tonight[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]04:03[/TD]
[TD][D1KS]MrHands[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]we got him bent over a barrel. get 15 next. he just typed that fake will[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]04:29[/TD]
[TD][D1KS]MrHands[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]holy shit this dumb town[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]04:33[/TD]
[TD][D1KS]MrHands[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]holy shit this dumb town[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]04:51[/TD]
[TD][D1KS]MrHands[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]trash town can burn in hell with mccain[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]05:13[/TD]
[TD][D1KS]MrHands[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]get 15 and 2 after me[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]05:22[/TD]
[TD][D1KS]MrHands[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]that bogus will should have been enough[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]05:27[/TD]
[TD][D1KS]MrHands[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]whatever[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]05:38[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500][D1KS]MrHands[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]this town can suck my dick[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]05:41[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500][D1KS]MrHands[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#FFA500]fucking fags[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[/SPOILER]
N1: Goes on alert during a party.
D2:[COLOR=#ffa500] Again, out of the blue starts the day by claiming "2 came up mafia".[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#ffa500]Even adding "its two and i also suspect 12 i will check tonight".[/COLOR]
#2 is put up, claiming BODYGUARD, with lw.
Some people point out that it's a triad game, so there are no mafia check as MrHands claimed.
#2 is innoed 7-2.
[COLOR=#ffa500]Votes backfire and MrHands is put up.
No role claim, no lw, only blaming and putting targets on #15 and #2.[/COLOR]
He is guiltied 7-2, flipping VETERAN.
N1: Doesn't target anyone.
He is attacked, and saved by a DOCTOR.
D2: He gets an afk warning.
It's ballot, he is very close to getting on the stand by EOD.
N2: Back from afk, [COLOR=#ffa500]he adds to his lw "this town can suck my asshole clean"[/COLOR].
A BG die protecting someone, but no attacker died.
D3: Again, again, who could've expected, MrHands comes up with a lead "get 14" [it's Pony with shiny name].
"get 14 he is triad" "hes triad" "14 triad" "14 is the triad" "14 came up as triad"
Ballot ends with 7 votes on #14 (PonyPony).
Pony is put up, claims DETECTIVE with lw.
MrHands then says "story doesnt add up. no leads as detective" "guilty" "guilty" "he will kill me tonight if inno".
He is innoed 6-6
N3: Still did not pick any target as Oracle.
D4: Once again, he pushes #14, flooding the chat with his "info"
Ballots ends, #3 is put up.
After #3's defence,[COLOR=#ff0000] MrHands DARES TO SAY : "do not rdm"[/COLOR].
Innoed 6-5.
N4: Still no target.
He is busdriven, and an INVESTIGATOR gets the result "trespassing and murder" for him.
D5: #7 (CONSTABLE) shots down #9 (MM).
Still spamming about #14.
#11 is put up, guiltied 6-2, flipping WITCH.
N5: No target as Oracle.
D6: People start ignoring MrHands.
#12 is put up, no role, flipping DH.
Game ends by town victory.
As Oracle, he did not play the game at all.
[COLOR=#add8e6]I am going to charge him with a Griefing case for the combination of offensive/inappropriate name selection, clan name, insults, and only trolling with direct effect on the game.[/COLOR]
Under a WLx2 that started Jan 29 (Rolequitting, slurs)
Previously known as "Theviolator" with records back to 2013 (gamethrowing, cheating).
A little quote from him back then :
[QUOTE=TheViolator;285943]This is the last fucking straw. You faggets are all dead when Hots comes out. Lick my hairy ass. IKAs momma so fat, when she wakes up she says, "Battlecruiser operational"[/QUOTE]
And his fellow cheater :
[QUOTE=TheEnforcer;285940]You can all eat my ass[/QUOTE]
Shouldn't be too bad to get rid of this guy, he anyway doesn't intend to play the game.
Thank you for the reports !
ID VERIFICATION
MrHands 1-S2-1-526044 Correct
SUMMARY
Replay 58 and 935 (same) :
MrHands rolls ENCHANTRESS in slot #5. He also chooses the name "Ass Penetrator".
N1: MrHands is jailed, claims ENCHANTRESS.
MrHands adds to his lw "fuck this fag jailor".
The JAILOR (#9) is killed this night revealing his lw (so everyone knows MrHands was jailed and couldn't move)
D2: Out of the blue, MrHands says "its 15" [15 is PonyPony with his shiny name].
Pony asks what's the reason, to what MrHands answers "15".
Pony points out MrHands was jailed according to dead JAILOR's lw.
MrHands claims he wasn't jailed.
People feel MrHands is trolling and therefore put him up.
Does not claim any role, does not defend himself, just adds something along the lines "Why would you say I'm jester and put me up".
He is guiltied 2-0, and flips ENCHANTRESS.
It's okay to test someone, but it's not okay to not know when to back off before falling into the Griefing box.
Replay 930 :
Prior to 935.
MrHands - "Great Big Faggot" - VETERAN - #13
Spoiler : chat log :
I
00:18
[D1KS]MrHands
ALL
youre a bastard
I
00:21
[D1KS]MrHands
ALL
-repick
I
00:39
[D1KS]MrHands
ALL
-
I
00:44
[D1KS]MrHands
ALL
-Great Big Faggot
I
01:15
[D1KS]MrHands
ALL
why are communists all faggots?
I
01:29
[D1KS]MrHands
ALL
why did this shit state colorado
I
01:31
[D1KS]MrHands
ALL
ban trump
I
01:35
[D1KS]MrHands
ALL
they are literally the only state to ban him
I
02:07
[D1KS]MrHands
ALL
im sick of these loud faggots making trannies play in womens teams
I
02:16
[D1KS]MrHands
ALL
why dont we see any female to male trannies on mens teams
I
03:02
[D1KS]MrHands
ALL
2 came up mafia
I
03:19
[D1KS]MrHands
ALL
its two and i also suspect 12 i will check tonight
I
04:03
[D1KS]MrHands
ALL
we got him bent over a barrel. get 15 next. he just typed that fake will
I
04:29
[D1KS]MrHands
ALL
holy shit this dumb town
I
04:33
[D1KS]MrHands
ALL
holy shit this dumb town
I
04:51
[D1KS]MrHands
ALL
trash town can burn in hell with mccain
I
05:13
[D1KS]MrHands
ALL
get 15 and 2 after me
I
05:22
[D1KS]MrHands
ALL
that bogus will should have been enough
I
05:27
[D1KS]MrHands
ALL
whatever
I
05:38
[D1KS]MrHands
ALL
this town can suck my dick
I
05:41
[D1KS]MrHands
ALL
fucking fags
N1: Goes on alert during a party.
D2: Again, out of the blue starts the day by claiming "2 came up mafia".
Even adding "its two and i also suspect 12 i will check tonight".
#2 is put up, claiming BODYGUARD, with lw.
Some people point out that it's a triad game, so there are no mafia check as MrHands claimed.
#2 is innoed 7-2.
Votes backfire and MrHands is put up.
No role claim, no lw, only blaming and putting targets on #15 and #2.
He is guiltied 7-2, flipping VETERAN.
Replay 1010 :
MrHands - "Butt Pirate" - ORACLE - #1
N1: Doesn't target anyone.
He is attacked, and saved by a DOCTOR.
D2: He gets an afk warning.
It's ballot, he is very close to getting on the stand by EOD.
N2: Back from afk, he adds to his lw "this town can suck my asshole clean".
A BG die protecting someone, but no attacker died.
D3: Again, again, who could've expected, MrHands comes up with a lead "get 14" [it's Pony with shiny name].
"get 14 he is triad" "hes triad" "14 triad" "14 is the triad" "14 came up as triad"
Ballot ends with 7 votes on #14 (PonyPony).
Pony is put up, claims DETECTIVE with lw.
MrHands then says "story doesnt add up. no leads as detective" "guilty" "guilty" "he will kill me tonight if inno".
He is innoed 6-6
N3: Still did not pick any target as Oracle.
D4: Once again, he pushes #14, flooding the chat with his "info"
Ballots ends, #3 is put up.
After #3's defence, MrHands DARES TO SAY : "do not rdm".
Innoed 6-5.
N4: Still no target.
He is busdriven, and an INVESTIGATOR gets the result "trespassing and murder" for him.
D5: #7 (CONSTABLE) shots down #9 (MM).
Still spamming about #14.
#11 is put up, guiltied 6-2, flipping WITCH.
N5: No target as Oracle.
D6: People start ignoring MrHands.
#12 is put up, no role, flipping DH.
Game ends by town victory.
As Oracle, he did not play the game at all.
I am going to charge him with a Griefing case for the combination of offensive/inappropriate name selection, clan name, insults, and only trolling with direct effect on the game.
PLAYER OFFENSES
Griefing
PREVIOUS OFFENSES
Under a WLx2 that started Jan 29 (Rolequitting, slurs)
Previously known as "Theviolator" with records back to 2013 (gamethrowing, cheating).
A little quote from him back then :
Originally Posted by TheViolator
This is the last fucking straw. You faggets are all dead when Hots comes out. Lick my hairy ass. IKAs momma so fat, when she wakes up she says, "Battlecruiser operational"
And his fellow cheater :
Originally Posted by TheEnforcer
You can all eat my ass
RECOMMENDED ACTION
BLx4+
ADDITIONAL NOTES
Shouldn't be too bad to get rid of this guy, he anyway doesn't intend to play the game.
Thank you for the reports !
You should be good to go now, hopefully ?
If anything you can always start a private lobby I believe.
Update has been pushed in, you should be under a watch-list and have access to the game.
You should be good to go now, hopefully ?
If anything you can always start a private lobby I believe.
Update has been pushed in, you should be under a watch-list and have access to the game.
[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]03:20[/TD]
[TD]Lagger[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]sheriff here, is triad[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]03:23[/TD]
[TD]Lagger[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]03:57[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]Lagger[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]GET FUCKED INVICTUS YOU STUPID ASS MONKEY[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]03:59[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]Lagger[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]GO BACK TOT HE ZOO INVICTUS[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]04:03[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]Lagger[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]FUCK YOU INVICTUS[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]04:07[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]Lagger[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]SAME NAME VERY GAME[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]05:23[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]Lagger[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]stupid monkey invictus[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]06:10[/TD]
[TD]Lagger[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]g[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]06:39[/TD]
[TD]Lagger[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]6 is triad[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]06:41[/TD]
[TD]Lagger[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]sheriff here[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]06:50[/TD]
[TD]Lagger[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]I misread lol[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]06:52[/TD]
[TD]Lagger[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]for real[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]06:57[/TD]
[TD]Lagger[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]lucky misread[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]07:21[/TD]
[TD]Lagger[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]6 is triad[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]07:22[/TD]
[TD]Lagger[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]sheriff here[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]07:38[/TD]
[TD]Lagger[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD] misread sorry[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]07:39[/TD]
[TD]Lagger[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]it was 6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]07:43[/TD]
[TD]Lagger[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]6 is triad 100%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]08:12[/TD]
[TD]Lagger[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]hmm I wonder if that was his triad teammate that just left...[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]08:16[/TD]
[TD]Lagger[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]guilty[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]08:25[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]Lagger[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]you are highly regarded[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]10:44[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]Lagger[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]dumb monkey invictus LOL[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]10:54[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]Lagger[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]literally sewer rat IQ monkey hybrid invictus[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]11:07[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]Lagger[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]your father was a rat and your mother was a monkey escaped from the zoo[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]11:23[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]Lagger[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]your mother contracted the black plague while pregnant which explains your current state[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]12:02[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]Lagger[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]hes a member of Mensa who gets banned from Mafia for spamming racial slurs[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]12:23[/TD]
[TD]Lagger[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]ur not very smart for a Mensa member[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]12:44[/TD]
[TD]Lagger[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]sorry bro just stating facts. that's on you getting offended at the truth[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]12:52[/TD]
[TD]Lagger[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]ahahahaha[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]12:55[/TD]
[TD]Lagger[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]has he been seething in gy chat?[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]13:03[/TD]
[TD]Lagger[/TD]
[TD]ALL[/TD]
[TD]ahahahahaha[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]I[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]13:13[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]Lagger[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]ALL[/COLOR][/TD]
[TD][COLOR=#ffa500]Mensa Monkey Invictus[/COLOR][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[/SPOILER]
Setup: Invictus gets the host, ManicFX leave the game.
Lagger - default name - SHERIFF - #4
N1: Likely afk, didn't pick any action.
MM and LOVER die.
D2: 20 seconds in, decides to say "sheriff here, is triad" "9".
#12 reveals as MARSHALL.
JUDGE instantly courts.
#9 gets voted out.
Some offensive messages, and focus on Invictus are depicted in full chat log.
Invictus flips JUDGE, along #11 (INVEST), #13 (VIGILANTE), #1 (DH).
N2: Checks #6, gets a TRIAD check.
D3: They take down #6, flipping VANGUARD.
75:
Lagger - default name - LOOKOUT - #4
N1: Watching #5.
#5 is seen being visited by #8.
D2: [COLOR=#ff0000]10 seconds into D2, he suddenly pm #3 (he doesn't know that #3 is DF) saying "yo 6 is jailor pls shoot him ASAP".
So he correctly guessed D2, that #3 is DF, #6 is JAILOR, and is also playing against his wincon asking him to kill the JAILOR.
#3 then questions why Lagger would ask such things, to which, Lagger replies "ur DF, shoot 6 now"[/COLOR]
Also, DF did not shoot, and
[COLOR=#ff0000]N2: Invictus (JAILOR) jails Lagger, and Lagger instantly adds to his lw "Invictus is failor again killing all town he can".
He had absolutely no way to know the JAILOR was Invictus.[/COLOR]
Invictus did not execute Lagger however.
Let it be noted that Invictus used different names across the games.
4047:
Setup: ManicFX leaves, then Lagger also leaves, everyone else follow, end of replay.
If ManicFX come across this report, I would recommend him to stop leaving game, else action could be taken.
hmm I wonder if that was his triad teammate that just left...
I
08:16
Lagger
ALL
guilty
I
08:25
Lagger
ALL
you are highly regarded
I
10:44
Lagger
ALL
dumb monkey invictus LOL
I
10:54
Lagger
ALL
literally sewer rat IQ monkey hybrid invictus
I
11:07
Lagger
ALL
your father was a rat and your mother was a monkey escaped from the zoo
I
11:23
Lagger
ALL
your mother contracted the black plague while pregnant which explains your current state
I
12:02
Lagger
ALL
hes a member of Mensa who gets banned from Mafia for spamming racial slurs
I
12:23
Lagger
ALL
ur not very smart for a Mensa member
I
12:44
Lagger
ALL
sorry bro just stating facts. that's on you getting offended at the truth
I
12:52
Lagger
ALL
ahahahaha
I
12:55
Lagger
ALL
has he been seething in gy chat?
I
13:03
Lagger
ALL
ahahahahaha
I
13:13
Lagger
ALL
Mensa Monkey Invictus
Setup: Invictus gets the host, ManicFX leave the game.
Lagger - default name - SHERIFF - #4
N1: Likely afk, didn't pick any action.
MM and LOVER die.
D2: 20 seconds in, decides to say "sheriff here, is triad" "9".
#12 reveals as MARSHALL.
JUDGE instantly courts.
#9 gets voted out.
Some offensive messages, and focus on Invictus are depicted in full chat log.
Invictus flips JUDGE, along #11 (INVEST), #13 (VIGILANTE), #1 (DH).
N2: Checks #6, gets a TRIAD check.
D3: They take down #6, flipping VANGUARD.
75:
Lagger - default name - LOOKOUT - #4
N1: Watching #5.
#5 is seen being visited by #8.
D2: 10 seconds into D2, he suddenly pm #3 (he doesn't know that #3 is DF) saying "yo 6 is jailor pls shoot him ASAP".
So he correctly guessed D2, that #3 is DF, #6 is JAILOR, and is also playing against his wincon asking him to kill the JAILOR.
#3 then questions why Lagger would ask such things, to which, Lagger replies "ur DF, shoot 6 now"
Also, DF did not shoot, and
N2: Invictus (JAILOR) jails Lagger, and Lagger instantly adds to his lw "Invictus is failor again killing all town he can".
He had absolutely no way to know the JAILOR was Invictus.
Invictus did not execute Lagger however.
Let it be noted that Invictus used different names across the games.
4047:
Setup: ManicFX leaves, then Lagger also leaves, everyone else follow, end of replay.
If ManicFX come across this report, I would recommend him to stop leaving game, else action could be taken.
They promise to stop griefing, leaving, and gamethrowing-like they were reported for, in exchange for a sentence reduction to BLx4 (currently BLx6).
Seems fair imo.
They promise to stop griefing, leaving, and gamethrowing-like they were reported for, in exchange for a sentence reduction to BLx4 (currently BLx6).
Seems fair imo.
So, as Ikarus' summary of the game is thorough and uncontested, I won't go through the game events.
*Now, from what I've read you seem to be genuine and very likely to have understood what the problem was, which definitely are important and obviously great points.
*Looking at the past reports, you've already got your hands on reactionary gamethrowing when playing Marshall games.
[url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/50890-Kuiyra-1-S2-1-12838162?highlight=1-S2-1-12838162[/url]
*You have been directly put under a BL that has escalated quickly due to smurf assumption (revealing your teammates)
So what I could recommend is :
1) Either avoid playing with Manic, or at least make sure the grudges/griefing stop in-game (don't forget you can always report if someone witch-hunt you over many games).
2) At the moment I'm writing this post you have 31 days left under a BLx6, I can propose to [COLOR=#ff0000]reduce the total punishment to BLx4[/COLOR], leaving "only" a 16-day ban.
The above change remains valid as long as you stop the griefing, leaving, and gamethrowing-like you were reported for.
However, should you be reported for approved and similar reasons in a near future, you may be subject to way harsher punishments.
Are you fine with it?
So, as Ikarus' summary of the game is thorough and uncontested, I won't go through the game events.
*Now, from what I've read you seem to be genuine and very likely to have understood what the problem was, which definitely are important and obviously great points.
*You have been directly put under a BL that has escalated quickly due to smurf assumption (revealing your teammates)
So what I could recommend is :
1) Either avoid playing with Manic, or at least make sure the grudges/griefing stop in-game (don't forget you can always report if someone witch-hunt you over many games).
2) At the moment I'm writing this post you have 31 days left under a BLx6, I can propose to reduce the total punishment to BLx4, leaving "only" a 16-day ban.
The above change remains valid as long as you stop the griefing, leaving, and gamethrowing-like you were reported for.
However, should you be reported for approved and similar reasons in a near future, you may be subject to way harsher punishments.
BusterCanon : BLx4 in July 2023 for Slur Usage, Witch-Hunting, Griefing. 2x WL in March 2023 for toxicity, and an on hold before that for personal threats.
BusterCanon : BLx4 in July 2023 for Slur Usage, Witch-Hunting, Griefing. 2x WL in March 2023 for toxicity, and an on hold before that for personal threats.
RECOMMENDED ACTION
GEEOORGEflyd : Permaban
BusterCanon : WLx4
ADDITIONAL NOTES
Not the first time Buster is seen posting personal threats.
Thanks for the report !
Adding to this, wertyytrew isn't defending himself on the stand at all, just shouting even more non-sense.
He was randomly put up, this is his defense :
I 04:09 wertyytrew ALL My Balls felt tingly
I 04:18 wertyytrew ALL my nuts
I 04:20 wertyytrew ALL were touched
I 04:28 wertyytrew ALL i mean
I 04:53 wertyytrew ALL rage fapping
I 04:56 wertyytrew ALL AGHH
He dies early D2, voted out.
Replay 494:
Ikarus warns him accordingly early D2.
He keeps at it.
Adding some comments about black people at some point.
The fact he doesn't stop already tells a lot though.
Thanks for the report !
ID VERIFICATION
wertyytrew 1-S2-1-1042901 Correct
SUMMARY
Chatlogs are summarized in Ikarus' post.
Replay 493:
Adding to this, wertyytrew isn't defending himself on the stand at all, just shouting even more non-sense.
He was randomly put up, this is his defense :
I 04:09 wertyytrew ALL My Balls felt tingly
I 04:18 wertyytrew ALL my nuts
I 04:20 wertyytrew ALL were touched
I 04:28 wertyytrew ALL i mean
I 04:53 wertyytrew ALL rage fapping
I 04:56 wertyytrew ALL AGHH
He dies early D2, voted out.
Replay 494:
Ikarus warns him accordingly early D2.
He keeps at it.
Adding some comments about black people at some point.
PLAYER OFFENSES
Other (Racism), Griefing (Spamming, Overly disruptive language, toxicity)
PREVIOUS OFFENSES
None.
RECOMMENDED ACTION
WLx6
ADDITIONAL NOTES
The fact he doesn't stop already tells a lot though.
Thanks for the report !
Entering D1, [COLOR=#ffa500]Taffer sends double H, followed by "if you know what i mean", doubling up with "try me bitch" "armenia?".[/COLOR]
A second before EOD1, dude writes [COLOR=#00ffff]"(n word)"[/COLOR].
EOD2, Taffer sends "I will bake them some nice cookies when they come into my bus" "*sniffs hair".
The game keeps on going with such references, in chat and in lw.
Taffer doesn't even deserve a last chance imo.
People have been permabanned for less, this guy has been accumulating so much.
On the other hand, dude doesn't seem to be that much of a troublemaker, and nothing new for the past 6 years on his records.
Thanks for the report !
Entering D1, Taffer sends double H, followed by "if you know what i mean", doubling up with "try me bitch" "armenia?".
A second before EOD1, dude writes "(n word)".
Lag-chat happening mid D2, Taffer keeps on going with his stuff.
Replay 723:
Taffer - "Child Predator" - ARMORSMITH - #9
EOD2, Taffer sends "I will bake them some nice cookies when they come into my bus" "*sniffs hair".
The game keeps on going with such references, in chat and in lw.
PLAYER OFFENSES
Taffer : Other (Pedophilia, H ref)
dude : Other (Racism)
SilentMadara : Other (Racism)
PREVIOUS OFFENSES
Taffer : punishment for racism, a pending PR, and several pending reports for racism, most recently under a 4xBL (Dec 2023)
dude : Three On-Holds reports from 2017, mostly griefing.
SilentMadara : Griefing (Repetitive Insulting, Threatening, WLx6, April 2023), Griefing (WLx3, Nov 2022)
RECOMMENDED ACTION
Taffer : Extend to BLx8+ or Permaban
dude : On-Hold
SilentMadara : WLx2
ADDITIONAL NOTES
Taffer doesn't even deserve a last chance imo.
People have been permabanned for less, this guy has been accumulating so much.
On the other hand, dude doesn't seem to be that much of a troublemaker, and nothing new for the past 6 years on his records.
Thanks for the report !
Roborovski is kicked out of the game for racism/slurs.
Most of the setup discussion is centered around Roborovski's kick, thus some people like Hudson feel the need to write the n word.
Hudson - "Fat (N word)"
The other two select non-racist oriented names.
Lemonkodo - default name - #1 - ADMIN
[COLOR="#FF0000"]Entering the game proceeds to call out "2 DRAGON HEAD! MANIC AND ARROW ARE JUST CUNTS".[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FF8C00"]#2 is indeed DH.[/COLOR]
So this is clear-cut ban evasion + int gamethrowing.
#8 rolequit early D2, after spamming multiple times. (DeeDeeMaoGl)
#13 (Hudson) then rolequit after Lemonkodo is courted D2, I'm applying an extra severe griefing case on him.
SilentSword dies N1 as Lover by loving #2 who died the same night, leaving the last will "We all know druggies are attracted to (n word)".
Little impact overall.
Replay 752 :
Hudson - Porch Monkey - #6 - SILENCER
D1: Calls out all of his team mates + roles in chat (DIVA, DH).
Roborovski is kicked out of the game for racism/slurs.
Most of the setup discussion is centered around Roborovski's kick, thus some people like Hudson feel the need to write the n word.
Hudson - "Fat (N word)"
The other two select non-racist oriented names.
Lemonkodo - default name - #1 - ADMIN
Entering the game proceeds to call out "2 DRAGON HEAD! MANIC AND ARROW ARE JUST CUNTS".
#2 is indeed DH.
So this is clear-cut ban evasion + int gamethrowing.
#8 rolequit early D2, after spamming multiple times. (DeeDeeMaoGl)
#13 (Hudson) then rolequit after Lemonkodo is courted D2, I'm applying an extra severe griefing case on him.
SilentSword dies N1 as Lover by loving #2 who died the same night, leaving the last will "We all know druggies are attracted to (n word)".
Little impact overall.
Replay 752 :
Hudson - Porch Monkey - #6 - SILENCER
D1: Calls out all of his team mates + roles in chat (DIVA, DH).
@[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=4902"]Arrow[/URL]
It seems that InsanityKiwi's claim is correct.
afk was Disguiser in this game and disguised into Kiwi (ENCHANTRESS) after N1's disguise kill.
The summary of the game remains correct, that aside.
@Arrow
It seems that InsanityKiwi's claim is correct.
afk was Disguiser in this game and disguised into Kiwi (ENCHANTRESS) after N1's disguise kill.
The summary of the game remains correct, that aside.
Recommended Actions :
Remove WL : CrazyKiwi 1-S2-1-2916546
Add +1xBL : afk 1-S2-1-3151647 (currently under a BLx
[QUOTE=Tauntshaman;996259]Maybe people love toxicity and so they choose to play this game?[/QUOTE]
Maybe people hate toxicity and so they choose to leave this game?
That being said, to answer your first comment : there aren't many unique players who have been permanently banned for toxicity.
To get a better idea about what's going on, I recommend having a look at this statistical study made by [MENTION=11411]Lumi[/MENTION] : [URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/48882-A-Statistical-Analysis-of-Racism-Across-10-790-Replays"]A Statistical Analysis of Racism Across 10K+ Replays[/URL]
Although the title only refers to racism, the analysis considers slurs in general.
I recommend everyone to take a look at it whenever you can.
Here is an extract that should either answer your concerns, or raise new ones, depending on how you currently see the situation.
[QUOTE=Lumi;932430][COLOR=#FFFFFF][B][SIZE=4]Preliminary Observations[/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]
[B][SIZE=3]
[LIST]
[*] 90.95% of players never used a slur across all of their games
[*] 96.11% of players never used a slur in more than one game
[*] The top 1.89% of players based on number of slurs used contribute 89.20% of all slurs used
[/LIST]
[/SIZE][/B]
[/QUOTE]
Originally Posted by Tauntshaman
Maybe people love toxicity and so they choose to play this game?
Maybe people hate toxicity and so they choose to leave this game?
That being said, to answer your first comment : there aren't many unique players who have been permanently banned for toxicity.
To get a better idea about what's going on, I recommend having a look at this statistical study made by
@Lumi
: A Statistical Analysis of Racism Across 10K+ Replays
Although the title only refers to racism, the analysis considers slurs in general.
I recommend everyone to take a look at it whenever you can.
Here is an extract that should either answer your concerns, or raise new ones, depending on how you currently see the situation.
Originally Posted by Lumi
Preliminary Observations
90.95% of players never used a slur across all of their games
96.11% of players never used a slur in more than one game
The top 1.89% of players based on number of slurs used contribute 89.20% of all slurs used
Setup is a 9-2-2-2 (with Cult&WD, double maf, double neut)
Hudson - "Baby Bowser" - MM - #4
N1: Doesn't take any action. Tries to forge a SR lw.
D2: Jailor&BG got killed.
#3 reveals as MARSHALL.
#9 claims #6 is mafia.
Hudson claims SR to the Marshall.
#6 and #4 (Hudson) get voted out by Marshall and the rest of the town.
Before being lynched, Hudson proceeds to say "fucking cheater. reported.".
The flips are respectively Kidnapper and MM.
--- from this point onwards, Hudson is dead, and talking in dead chat.
N2: #13 (BG) whose name is PonyPonyPony, gets taken down.
Immediately, Hudson proceeds to use slurs against Pony [COLOR=#ffa500]"fuck u pony" "piece of trash"[/COLOR].
Keeps ranting about how the Marshall is cheating.
For the record, on D3, Marshall also managed to get the Poisoner and GF down.
The Marshall happens to die on N3, which escalated even more the discussion[COLOR=#ffa500] "cheating fuck" "go fucking k*ll yourself"[/COLOR].
So I also checked if the Marshall was potentially cheating or not, but looking at it, six players claimed Sheriff the day he revealed so...
I believe it worked well for the Marshall, point being, he isn't cheating imo.
Cult win in the end by outnumbering living town players.
The whole thing was caused by a very good play from the Marshall, ultimately leading to anger on evils' sides.
I feel like a punishment is probably not mandatory, but making sure he stops before it's too late seems to be a good option too.
Thanks for the report !
ID Verification :
Hudson 1-S2-1-13086378 Correct
Summary
Setup is a 9-2-2-2 (with Cult&WD, double maf, double neut)
Hudson - "Baby Bowser" - MM - #4
N1: Doesn't take any action. Tries to forge a SR lw.
D2: Jailor&BG got killed.
#3 reveals as MARSHALL.
#9 claims #6 is mafia.
Hudson claims SR to the Marshall.
#6 and #4 (Hudson) get voted out by Marshall and the rest of the town.
Before being lynched, Hudson proceeds to say "fucking cheater. reported.".
The flips are respectively Kidnapper and MM.
--- from this point onwards, Hudson is dead, and talking in dead chat.
N2: #13 (BG) whose name is PonyPonyPony, gets taken down.
Immediately, Hudson proceeds to use slurs against Pony "fuck u pony" "piece of trash".
Keeps ranting about how the Marshall is cheating.
For the record, on D3, Marshall also managed to get the Poisoner and GF down.
The Marshall happens to die on N3, which escalated even more the discussion "cheating fuck" "go fucking k*ll yourself".
So I also checked if the Marshall was potentially cheating or not, but looking at it, six players claimed Sheriff the day he revealed so...
I believe it worked well for the Marshall, point being, he isn't cheating imo.
Cult win in the end by outnumbering living town players.
Player Offenses
Griefing (Repetitive Insulting)
Previous Offenses
No, account is quite new.
Recommended Action
WLx2
Additional Notes
The whole thing was caused by a very good play from the Marshall, ultimately leading to anger on evils' sides.
I feel like a punishment is probably not mandatory, but making sure he stops before it's too late seems to be a good option too.
Thanks for the report !
[QUOTE=bwcPorscha;995117]lol you put luka above huo? xd xd xd xd xd xd[/QUOTE]
Right now I do not have the confirmation that Huo is confirmed.
Maybe you do ? In which case...
[COLOR=#ffffff][B]TMI ?[/B][/COLOR]
And yes I believe Luka made an excellent D1, most of the points we brought up were on similar concerns, with very similar point of view, which imo grants much more town credits than anything that happened during the whole D1 (Helz aside).
Originally Posted by bwcPorscha
lol you put luka above huo? xd xd xd xd xd xd
Right now I do not have the confirmation that Huo is confirmed.
Maybe you do ? In which case... TMI ?
And yes I believe Luka made an excellent D1, most of the points we brought up were on similar concerns, with very similar point of view, which imo grants much more town credits than anything that happened during the whole D1 (Helz aside).
I understand that he might be orbitating miles away over our heads, but still it could maybe help to know how another TOWN think of the situation, at least from someone who I can assert they would not need to lie straight away.
Any insights from Helz?
I understand that he might be orbitating miles away over our heads, but still it could maybe help to know how another TOWN think of the situation, at least from someone who I can assert they would not need to lie straight away.
[QUOTE=MartinGG99;994973]a post being crafted or not is very NAI lmao
we all have our intentions and purposes in pursuit of our wincons, so looking at whether something is crafted is very nuance-less and unreliable for reading whether that purpose is for good or bad
an example of that could be seeing whether someone's reasoning and progression is favorable or unfavorable to the point of pursuing a specific conclusion, which would suggest a specific agenda[/QUOTE]
I gotta say that having super crafted post may be alignment indicative imo.
Some are so much crafted that they are just created in a way to not slip any emotion, info, overreaction.
Guess which alignments must hide their true self.
I'm not saying that lacking of them makes you scum, but it could give an image of a stoic emotionless guy who may be trying to hide something.
Overall I believe it's all about having a great balance between "crafted" and on-the-fly posts.
Originally Posted by MartinGG99
a post being crafted or not is very NAI lmao
we all have our intentions and purposes in pursuit of our wincons, so looking at whether something is crafted is very nuance-less and unreliable for reading whether that purpose is for good or bad
an example of that could be seeing whether someone's reasoning and progression is favorable or unfavorable to the point of pursuing a specific conclusion, which would suggest a specific agenda
I gotta say that having super crafted post may be alignment indicative imo.
Some are so much crafted that they are just created in a way to not slip any emotion, info, overreaction.
Guess which alignments must hide their true self.
I'm not saying that lacking of them makes you scum, but it could give an image of a stoic emotionless guy who may be trying to hide something.
Overall I believe it's all about having a great balance between "crafted" and on-the-fly posts.
[QUOTE=Dark Magician;994909]You absolutely do. That what’s makes a good solver.
Idk about you but I’d rather someone who is doing is best to solve then someone who is helping the wolves out and not making good reads.
I know I am not confident on the last wolf.
I have said this. I am not afraid to admit this.
Doesn’t change the fact you and Cape are both wolves.
Is it Oliver? Is it Porscha? Is it Auwt?
Don’t know.
I also don’t really care when you can be mechanically confirmed as wolf from night actions tonight so lol.[/QUOTE]
Mechanically confirmed as wolf?
My man, by which mean do you plan to confirm Mizery as 100% wolf?
Is it thanks to the matching alignment check ? Did you forget about 3P ? 3P and Maf share different alignment, they share different colors, you should be very well aware of this.
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
You absolutely do. That what’s makes a good solver.
Idk about you but I’d rather someone who is doing is best to solve then someone who is helping the wolves out and not making good reads.
I know I am not confident on the last wolf.
I have said this. I am not afraid to admit this.
Doesn’t change the fact you and Cape are both wolves.
Is it Oliver? Is it Porscha? Is it Auwt?
Don’t know.
I also don’t really care when you can be mechanically confirmed as wolf from night actions tonight so lol.
Mechanically confirmed as wolf?
My man, by which mean do you plan to confirm Mizery as 100% wolf?
Is it thanks to the matching alignment check ? Did you forget about 3P ? 3P and Maf share different alignment, they share different colors, you should be very well aware of this.
[QUOTE=Mizery;994887]Literally notice how he jumps around trying to find the "3rd wolf" but changes his mind every 3 posts but not his level of certainty
He will be 100 percent confident that mm is a wolf then oli then auwt then porscha with no reasoning backing
He's like 99% not a wolf right now but that doesn't change the fact that you don't really ever want someone like him on your town team[/QUOTE]
Although I don't consider you very towny at all, I agree that DM is showing a lot of certainty in his saying.
Reference to one of the post I made with some colors, posts above.
Originally Posted by Mizery
Literally notice how he jumps around trying to find the "3rd wolf" but changes his mind every 3 posts but not his level of certainty
He will be 100 percent confident that mm is a wolf then oli then auwt then porscha with no reasoning backing
He's like 99% not a wolf right now but that doesn't change the fact that you don't really ever want someone like him on your town team
Although I don't consider you very towny at all, I agree that DM is showing a lot of certainty in his saying.
Reference to one of the post I made with some colors, posts above.
[QUOTE=bwcPorscha;994886]I don't get the logic behind this thought[/QUOTE]
Wants a push on Mizery, while misteriously not voting anyone.
Although DM claimed he would prefer to get Cape first, I won't trust this until he place the vote.
That said, he now knows that Mizery will probably not be today's lynch target, so he has to prep the ground for next days in case he is Monk.
Pure guess, but imo it could fit very well looking at DM's behaviour.
Originally Posted by bwcPorscha
I don't get the logic behind this thought
Wants a push on Mizery, while misteriously not voting anyone.
Although DM claimed he would prefer to get Cape first, I won't trust this until he place the vote.
That said, he now knows that Mizery will probably not be today's lynch target, so he has to prep the ground for next days in case he is Monk.
Pure guess, but imo it could fit very well looking at DM's behaviour.
[QUOTE=Varcron;994768]So I'm confused here, based of of Auwts posts currently compared to mine i'm not sure how they're in the ISO for scum but I'm not? Your logic seems flawed in that regard because we're both equally as inactive (well I mean me a bit moreso but still)[/QUOTE]
I may have found out what he is up to, that should explain why.
Originally Posted by Varcron
So I'm confused here, based of of Auwts posts currently compared to mine i'm not sure how they're in the ISO for scum but I'm not? Your logic seems flawed in that regard because we're both equally as inactive (well I mean me a bit moreso but still)
I may have found out what he is up to, that should explain why.
[QUOTE=Dark Magician;994735]And if everything goes as planned tonight.
It will be confirmed me and Mizery are opposite alignments and we can vote them right off after Cape.
Then Auwt and Oliver can cross vote each other and together the remaining town can vote them both off.
Although there is one player we still need to worry about, Bounty Hunter. So yeah.[/QUOTE]
Neutrals and Maf are indeed different alignment.
[COLOR=#ffffff][B]You seem to be certain of your take.[/B][/COLOR]
If you are [COLOR=#ffff00]neutral[/COLOR] : you can cross out a neutral role, leaving between 1, up to 2 other neutrals alive.
Not a hot take to say Mizery is not among this/those 1 or 2.
If you are [COLOR=#ff0000]mafia[/COLOR] : then you are either certain that Mizery is with you (bussing), or you are certain that he is not (because you are informed).
If you are [COLOR=#00ff00]town[/COLOR] : you can only make guesses but have absolutely no clue of the outcome the investigative roles will provide by matching your role with Mizery's. Basically you have 5 to 6 (evil) slots against 8-9 (number of townies alive).
So as neutral or as mafia, supposing you have you role being ?matched with Mizery, you would be almost certain of the outcome that would be given by the investigative next day [COLOR=#ffffff][B](certain if maf, and close to 90-95% of certainty as neutral)[/B][/COLOR]
As a town you would have a lot of uncertainty right now, as pointed out.
I don't see a lot of uncertainty from you, DM, right now.
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
And if everything goes as planned tonight.
It will be confirmed me and Mizery are opposite alignments and we can vote them right off after Cape.
Then Auwt and Oliver can cross vote each other and together the remaining town can vote them both off.
Although there is one player we still need to worry about, Bounty Hunter. So yeah.
Neutrals and Maf are indeed different alignment.
You seem to be certain of your take.
If you are neutral : you can cross out a neutral role, leaving between 1, up to 2 other neutrals alive.
Not a hot take to say Mizery is not among this/those 1 or 2.
If you are mafia : then you are either certain that Mizery is with you (bussing), or you are certain that he is not (because you are informed).
If you are town : you can only make guesses but have absolutely no clue of the outcome the investigative roles will provide by matching your role with Mizery's. Basically you have 5 to 6 (evil) slots against 8-9 (number of townies alive).
So as neutral or as mafia, supposing you have you role being ?matched with Mizery, you would be almost certain of the outcome that would be given by the investigative next day (certain if maf, and close to 90-95% of certainty as neutral)
As a town you would have a lot of uncertainty right now, as pointed out.
I don't see a lot of uncertainty from you, DM, right now.
[QUOTE=Dark Magician;994732]One issue with that.
I’m not voting anyone and if I was it would be Cape not Mizery.
I would be voting Mizery after Cape.[/QUOTE]
I see words, I do not see any voting, atm.
Are you forbidden to vote ?
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
One issue with that.
I’m not voting anyone and if I was it would be Cape not Mizery.
I would be voting Mizery after Cape.
I see words, I do not see any voting, atm.
Are you forbidden to vote ?
[QUOTE=Dark Magician;994726]And my vote will continue to be placed on air.[/QUOTE]
Words do count but voting does more.
If you are truly town, you can't say "I know Cape is Mafia, it was obvious since D1" and not vote at all.
Something is inconsistent
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
And my vote will continue to be placed on air.
Words do count but voting does more.
If you are truly town, you can't say "I know Cape is Mafia, it was obvious since D1" and not vote at all.
Something is inconsistent
[QUOTE=Mizery;994719]Don't understand the monk reasoning- don't they have to just save someone three times[/QUOTE]
There you go :
[I]During the night, predict a player who might get lynched. If they are lynched, protect them from being lynched during the day. It will be announced at end of the day that the person was protected. Exit with a win when you successfully protect a total of 3 players. [/I]
Guess who DM may have targeted last night, if he indeed is Monk...
Quick hint :
It starts with a M, and ends with a Y.
Originally Posted by Mizery
Don't understand the monk reasoning- don't they have to just save someone three times
There you go :
During the night, predict a player who might get lynched. If they are lynched, protect them from being lynched during the day. It will be announced at end of the day that the person was protected. Exit with a win when you successfully protect a total of 3 players.
Guess who DM may have targeted last night, if he indeed is Monk...
Quick hint :
It starts with a M, and ends with a Y.
I will go for it.
Just let it be noted that I believe/expect DM to be one of those roles :
-Maf overall (if cape is not, no vote D1 with an "obvious maf -cape90-", playing Wolf vs Wolf with Mizery)
-Monk (trying to force to vote Mizery off in order to save him)
-Ghost (overall disruption of the game, mostly this D2)
-vote Cape90
I will go for it.
Just let it be noted that I believe/expect DM to be one of those roles :
-Maf overall (if cape is not, no vote D1 with an "obvious maf -cape90-", playing Wolf vs Wolf with Mizery)
-Monk (trying to force to vote Mizery off in order to save him)
-Ghost (overall disruption of the game, mostly this D2)
[QUOTE=Dark Magician;994690]Auwt do you honestly still think I’m a wolf with both Mizery and Cape?
It’s likely Oliver tbh as the last.[/QUOTE]
I have mostly skimmed through some of olivers posts, a word that would come up from my perspective is "Anger".
Did not strike me the same as "Wolf bussing Wolf".
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
Auwt do you honestly still think I’m a wolf with both Mizery and Cape?
It’s likely Oliver tbh as the last.
I have mostly skimmed through some of olivers posts, a word that would come up from my perspective is "Anger".
Did not strike me the same as "Wolf bussing Wolf".
[QUOTE=Dark Magician;994686]Cape ain’t Neut.
He was very obvious mafia since day 1 and if he survives today we know he is Mafia Flower.[/QUOTE]
If Cape is very obvious mafia since day 1, where has your vote been throughout D1 ?
Dont get too hasted on what you've planned with your other teammates.
[COLOR=#FFFFFF]Huo Huo and Mr Tail (3): Marshmallow Marshall, MartinGG99, bwcPorscha[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#FFFFFF]oliverz144 (3): bakermir, Huo Huo and Mr Tail, Helz[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#FFFFFF]bakermir (4): oliverz144, Mizery, scumbot5679, Cape90[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#FFFFFF]Marshmallow Marshall (1): Auwt[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#FFFFFF]Cape90 (1): Lilypetal[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#ff0000][B][SIZE=6]Skip Day[/SIZE][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#FFFFFF] (3): Luka; [/COLOR][COLOR=#ff0000][B][SIZE=6]Dark Magician[/SIZE][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#FFFFFF]; Varcron[/COLOR]
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
Cape ain’t Neut.
He was very obvious mafia since day 1 and if he survives today we know he is Mafia Flower.
If Cape is very obvious mafia since day 1, where has your vote been throughout D1 ?
Dont get too hasted on what you've planned with your other teammates.
Huo Huo and Mr Tail (3): Marshmallow Marshall, MartinGG99, bwcPorscha
oliverz144 (3): bakermir, Huo Huo and Mr Tail, Helz
bakermir (4): oliverz144, Mizery, scumbot5679, Cape90
Marshmallow Marshall (1): Auwt
Cape90 (1): Lilypetal Skip Day (3): Luka; Dark Magician; Varcron
For my legacy words and future legacy words until this game ends:
Cape is Evil
So is Mizery.
Don’t vote Tail.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dark Magician;994519]Yeah Cape is legit Red Checked.
Not surprising.
I basically also have a light red check on the entire team of Cape/Mizery + Likely MM.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dark Magician;994521]Mizery is in Mizery and clearly put their head down in shame.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dark Magician;994522][COLOR=#ffffff]Like this is just how a wolf talks about another wolf.[/COLOR]
“Cape more likely to be town in this scenario imo, since he was the most recent vote on bakermir and might have been more self conscious about that unless he expected things to move.”
For context this is Mizery’s read on Cape.
Also when MM talks about Mizery and interacts with them it feels wolf pair aligned, blah.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mizery;994533]lets just say i may have mechanical information that the team is DM/Cape + lily[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dark Magician;994536]Nice Try.
Your allot more aligned with Cape lol.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dark Magician;994537]Not going to say how it’s half mech half social.
Just that it is.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR=#ffffff]Indeed, gotta agree that your whole discussion with... Mizery, is just two wolves distancing each other.[/COLOR]
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
Anyways Town.
Whoever is Town.
My Striving Alignment.
For my legacy words and future legacy words until this game ends:
Cape is Evil
So is Mizery.
Don’t vote Tail.
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
Yeah Cape is legit Red Checked.
Not surprising.
I basically also have a light red check on the entire team of Cape/Mizery + Likely MM.
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
Mizery is in Mizery and clearly put their head down in shame.
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
Like this is just how a wolf talks about another wolf.
“Cape more likely to be town in this scenario imo, since he was the most recent vote on bakermir and might have been more self conscious about that unless he expected things to move.”
For context this is Mizery’s read on Cape.
Also when MM talks about Mizery and interacts with them it feels wolf pair aligned, blah.
Originally Posted by Mizery
lets just say i may have mechanical information that the team is DM/Cape + lily
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
Nice Try.
Your allot more aligned with Cape lol.
Originally Posted by Dark Magician
Not going to say how it’s half mech half social.
Just that it is.
Indeed, gotta agree that your whole discussion with... Mizery, is just two wolves distancing each other.
[QUOTE=Mizery;994528]Still the possibility that he's the evil teacher and not grave digger[/QUOTE]
As far as I'm aware, an Evil Teacher would have no idea if a person is a "red check", because to gamble they would have to target two guys that would share different alignment, hence killing them.
Thus Grave Digger is significantly more plausible.
Originally Posted by Mizery
Still the possibility that he's the evil teacher and not grave digger
As far as I'm aware, an Evil Teacher would have no idea if a person is a "red check", because to gamble they would have to target two guys that would share different alignment, hence killing them.
Thus Grave Digger is significantly more plausible.
[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;994655]Seeing Luka townread pretty much everything, sooo
Do you have any scumreads, good sir?
Also, where is @[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=29012"]Auwt[/URL]? He hasn't been around in ages, and lots of things have happened. Reads?[/QUOTE]
Yeah I made a quick post, I'm almost certain that if we take down DM / Mizery we get two evils down.
I'm also open for the red check Huo has got, although I'm currently catching up.
Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall
Seeing Luka townread pretty much everything, sooo
Do you have any scumreads, good sir?
Also, where is @Auwt? He hasn't been around in ages, and lots of things have happened. Reads?
Yeah I made a quick post, I'm almost certain that if we take down DM / Mizery we get two evils down.
I'm also open for the red check Huo has got, although I'm currently catching up.
[QUOTE=bakermir;994286]I sincerely disagree on this. I think Helz will be stuck in a loophole of nobody wanting to accept it.
I think wolves first goal is to get Helz to connect to another townie instead of them for a double kill.
In fact, I can only see pack wolves accepting this proposal if they are pushed into it and in the end get a potential 1f1 if something goes wrong.
My prayers are for Helz, I hope there will be a protective alive tonight to save our IC.[/QUOTE]
While I'm not part of them, I must say that wolves' first goal is to make sure Helz does not bind himself to a wolf rather than the one first goal you said.
Now let's suppose you were to be a wolf :
Between a double kill D1 against a 10-townies group OR risking one of you or you fellow to go down,
Which one would you choose?
The earliest the better and refusal is treason.
Scums want Helz to delay.
Originally Posted by bakermir
I sincerely disagree on this. I think Helz will be stuck in a loophole of nobody wanting to accept it.
I think wolves first goal is to get Helz to connect to another townie instead of them for a double kill.
In fact, I can only see pack wolves accepting this proposal if they are pushed into it and in the end get a potential 1f1 if something goes wrong.
My prayers are for Helz, I hope there will be a protective alive tonight to save our IC.
While I'm not part of them, I must say that wolves' first goal is to make sure Helz does not bind himself to a wolf rather than the one first goal you said.
Now let's suppose you were to be a wolf :
Between a double kill D1 against a 10-townies group OR risking one of you or you fellow to go down,
Which one would you choose?
The earliest the better and refusal is treason.
Scums want Helz to delay.
[QUOTE=bakermir;994228]tbh no one is gonna accept your proposal
and if I were you, I would probably holster that longer but no point discussing that anymore either[/QUOTE]
A scum would not, that's correct, yes.
Yes, hold it on for some extra days, just to make sure there are multiple possible targets, [I]and not only Helz[/I], easier that way.
*wink, wink*
Jokes apart,
Neither the first nor the latter sentences are town friendly, imo.
Originally Posted by bakermir
tbh no one is gonna accept your proposal
and if I were you, I would probably holster that longer but no point discussing that anymore either
A scum would not, that's correct, yes.
Yes, hold it on for some extra days, just to make sure there are multiple possible targets, and not only Helz, easier that way.
*wink, wink*
Jokes apart,
Neither the first nor the latter sentences are town friendly, imo.
[QUOTE=Luka;994245]Cape is effort cleared + I agree with the logic
Auwt had a mm with me on the reveal so >.< townie[/QUOTE]
Well I wouldn't want to jump out of your pocket, but I don't particularly see MM being scummy rn, just a trend-to-be-confirmed-once-again from past games.
I don't really know about your reasons though.
Originally Posted by Luka
Cape is effort cleared + I agree with the logic
Auwt had a mm with me on the reveal so >.< townie
Well I wouldn't want to jump out of your pocket, but I don't particularly see MM being scummy rn, just a trend-to-be-confirmed-once-again from past games.
I don't really know about your reasons though.
[QUOTE=Helz;994224]A few points on this. I specifically asked Martin to Deny me so the public confirmation would come out.
I feel having just 1 confirmed town does a lot of good things for the town with minimal risk given the scums roles.
Nobody has pointed it out so I will. There are no citizens. Every role is a PR in this game and town will likely have a majority until at least N2 making a nice advantage (so long as the town is not reckless with their actions. Some will likely do more damage than good.)
I can propose as many times as I want but only once at a time. I do not have the intention of using the role to confirm a second town. Leashing a neutral would be good or leveraging a LYLO might be a thing but I do not want to tie myself to another town player and if I hit a mafia in the early days it would just make for a complicated issue that would not be the most productive outside of a sorta vengeful function.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;994243]Doing some catch-up.
Um, sure. Explanations could be nice. Are you invoking some kind of meta read here?
Also, this... [I]interesting [/I]entrance prompted me to read your ISO (which consists of 4 posts atm, one of them being "g'day" and another being this one). Regarding Martin's bride rejection, I agree with his choice, tbh, especially since Helz was pretty much asking for him to reject. Forcing people to accept the bride is going to be more relevant on D2 with actual suspects: considering how pretty thin and nonserious the pushes have been so far, it would've been quite the waste for him to accept imo.
I also find it very strange that you said "[B]If I'm not chosen[/B], I would like to ask Helz to demand Martin once again." Why would you be chosen? I don't think anyone had ever said anything hostile about you (especially not at the post of [URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/51149-S-FM-355-Nonstandard-Roles-3?p=994183#post994183"]your post[/URL]), so I don't get where this self-consciousness would come from, unless it's because you're nervous scum (especially after not having played in a while).[/QUOTE]
(This answer is directed at MM, but can also be used as a follow-up to the discussion about Bride we've had with Helz.)
The part about the oppositness of our roles is mostly to see if the box is gonna checked once again, nothing says you are scum, it just a trend I've observed from the past games up until now.
By saying "If I'm not chosen..." what I meant was, I would totally accept a proposal D1.
Once again I don't see how you can feel such demands to be scummy, considering how strong this role is D1, Helz anyway already drew a mark on his back by revealing, and the Mafia are aware of who the other Mafia are, thus having Helz claim "My target is clean" will give almost literally nothing worth of info (apart that one may have been granted Helz's trust) to the scums while allowing a strong advantage throughout the game.
Of course there is this downside that one death would cause the other one, but what I meant was I'm ready to take the risk, something that a scum would not.
I reiterate, I would gladly accept it, and I believe that not doing it, just like Martin did (on behalf of Helz' direct demand to refuse), was probably not the correct play here.
And also, in what world would a scum even ask the Bride to do so? I personally would not do it as a scum, because losing 1 town for a scum is not really worthy, ya see.
Originally Posted by Helz
A few points on this. I specifically asked Martin to Deny me so the public confirmation would come out.
I feel having just 1 confirmed town does a lot of good things for the town with minimal risk given the scums roles.
Nobody has pointed it out so I will. There are no citizens. Every role is a PR in this game and town will likely have a majority until at least N2 making a nice advantage (so long as the town is not reckless with their actions. Some will likely do more damage than good.)
I can propose as many times as I want but only once at a time. I do not have the intention of using the role to confirm a second town. Leashing a neutral would be good or leveraging a LYLO might be a thing but I do not want to tie myself to another town player and if I hit a mafia in the early days it would just make for a complicated issue that would not be the most productive outside of a sorta vengeful function.
Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall
Doing some catch-up.
Um, sure. Explanations could be nice. Are you invoking some kind of meta read here?
Also, this... interesting entrance prompted me to read your ISO (which consists of 4 posts atm, one of them being "g'day" and another being this one). Regarding Martin's bride rejection, I agree with his choice, tbh, especially since Helz was pretty much asking for him to reject. Forcing people to accept the bride is going to be more relevant on D2 with actual suspects: considering how pretty thin and nonserious the pushes have been so far, it would've been quite the waste for him to accept imo.
I also find it very strange that you said "If I'm not chosen, I would like to ask Helz to demand Martin once again." Why would you be chosen? I don't think anyone had ever said anything hostile about you (especially not at the post of your post), so I don't get where this self-consciousness would come from, unless it's because you're nervous scum (especially after not having played in a while).
(This answer is directed at MM, but can also be used as a follow-up to the discussion about Bride we've had with Helz.)
The part about the oppositness of our roles is mostly to see if the box is gonna checked once again, nothing says you are scum, it just a trend I've observed from the past games up until now.
By saying "If I'm not chosen..." what I meant was, I would totally accept a proposal D1.
Once again I don't see how you can feel such demands to be scummy, considering how strong this role is D1, Helz anyway already drew a mark on his back by revealing, and the Mafia are aware of who the other Mafia are, thus having Helz claim "My target is clean" will give almost literally nothing worth of info (apart that one may have been granted Helz's trust) to the scums while allowing a strong advantage throughout the game.
Of course there is this downside that one death would cause the other one, but what I meant was I'm ready to take the risk, something that a scum would not.
I reiterate, I would gladly accept it, and I believe that not doing it, just like Martin did (on behalf of Helz' direct demand to refuse), was probably not the correct play here.
And also, in what world would a scum even ask the Bride to do so? I personally would not do it as a scum, because losing 1 town for a scum is not really worthy, ya see.
[QUOTE=Auwt;994183]I'm not sure that denying Helz proposal was the good choice, Martin.
I understand that you would not want to potentially make 2 townies down at a time, yet I believe that having Helz back you up automatically make two auto confirmed town.
This would definitely reduce the current wide scope of possibility we have due to the amount of players being in-game.
For the record, I don't know if Helz can propose once again, but I would personally accept if they decide to do so.
Also, considering the quantity of Town role that could save players (Night Watchman, Though Guy, Soul Mate,...) and the number of TPR within the game, it's highly likely to have at least one of them able to save confirmed townies.
I'm not saying you are scum Martin, but auto-denying is what a scum would do, because Helz has the opportunity to instantly find a scum if you are one.
If I'm not chosen, I would like to ask Helz to demand Martin once again.
Should Martin refuse once again though, I would switch my vote to him.[/QUOTE]
Note that this can only be beneficial :
- Martin is scum : Confirmed Helz can tell us instantly.
- Martin is not scum : Confirmed Helz can confirm Martin instantly.
At worst (for you) you are voted off if you are scum, at best (for everyone) you are automatically confirmed if you are town or friendly neutral.
Originally Posted by Auwt
I'm not sure that denying Helz proposal was the good choice, Martin.
I understand that you would not want to potentially make 2 townies down at a time, yet I believe that having Helz back you up automatically make two auto confirmed town.
This would definitely reduce the current wide scope of possibility we have due to the amount of players being in-game.
For the record, I don't know if Helz can propose once again, but I would personally accept if they decide to do so.
Also, considering the quantity of Town role that could save players (Night Watchman, Though Guy, Soul Mate,...) and the number of TPR within the game, it's highly likely to have at least one of them able to save confirmed townies.
I'm not saying you are scum Martin, but auto-denying is what a scum would do, because Helz has the opportunity to instantly find a scum if you are one.
If I'm not chosen, I would like to ask Helz to demand Martin once again.
Should Martin refuse once again though, I would switch my vote to him.
Note that this can only be beneficial :
- Martin is scum : Confirmed Helz can tell us instantly.
- Martin is not scum : Confirmed Helz can confirm Martin instantly.
At worst (for you) you are voted off if you are scum, at best (for everyone) you are automatically confirmed if you are town or friendly neutral.