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    Give it all you got post game Wiisp!
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    If MM doesnít come in and vote AFK Scum @Wiisp Show no mercy on MM and tell them to read better!
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    Play Smart and Read and look back next time.
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    Iím not saying your stupid.
    Iím saying that you always be playing stupid.
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    Fuck ya so damn stupid
    Open your eyes.
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    God MM next time you play a game stop doing this shit and fuckin read
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    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Magoroth View Post
    Also, please, if I die tonight, it's because I was one person not voting DM bc DM is going to get a train on them tomorrow. Do not vote DM tomorrow.
    @MM


    DOES THIS COME FROM A COP THAT DOESNíT GREEN CHECK?
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    @MM

    If you wanna be a better mafia player you need to trust a dead cops reads.
    OML.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Magoroth View Post
    Here are my notes on people.
    Spoiler : my notes on players :

    Dark Magician
    - Hipshot post screams town to me #115
    - Says heís not taking the game seriously. This is a good policy yeet now. #588
    - Spammy posts #628

    Grayswandir
    - Spammy, first page, but seems town. Then again, did a great job of Ďseeming towní in another game so I wonít fall for that again #40.
    - Gets on train on wisp with a ďI agree!Ē. Itís redundant #181
    - Says Wisp is acting similar to the last scum game. I like this post too Wisp #203
    - Dumb (or maybe scummy) to bring up the ďtoxicĒ post from a while back. HRD agrees with me #251
    - Too aggressive for this game. Deserves to go. #273

    Helz
    - Asking for the archon to differentiate themselves is pro town. #200
    - Better setup read A+
    - I donít see him asking people to pm host reads as scum. Well, maybe I do, but probably not #244
    - Calls out wisp for the early town read. Yikes, I guess I fell for this too #246
    - Calls Richard Dawkins scum for activity reasons. I also expect better #505

    Hybrid Richard Dawkins
    - Lots of fluff role-play posts
    - Colored posts are making it hard to read, especially when they use the dark colors. Going to start skimming
    - Stating helz is hard to read is good.

    Martin
    - Defense of Wisp from Letoís attacks look good #607
    - Another call to get Hawkins to sign their posts.

    Samson
    - Opens with just stupid role play
    - Marshal, Wisp, Yzb scum team #97
    - More riddle garbage. Did this guy even replace? #479
    - I have no discernible reason to think this is town, but the mask on/mask off shit says town to me. Ugh ugh. #686

    Wisp
    - Says something about anon accounts hiding #18
    - Advocates for no role play. Good for figuring out game. Town points #183
    - Advocates for optimal town play. DUH #408

    YZB
    - Good setup read. Only gives feedback on the town roles so /shrug #5
    - 11 posts in and they have town reads on leto and null on other talkers. Scum points #11
    - YZB says I deliver a killer scum game. I donít really recall ever doing that.
    - Telling everyone to discuss the bible and science in another thread is pretty pro town because it stops garbage. Yzb might do this even if they are scum. But I like it anyway #146

    Vacaron
    - Good analysis on yzbís state of mind on the post. This is how mafia should be played. Also A+ to not spamming #8
    - Iím not a fan of his posts #387



    and here's my ranking of people

    Magoroth - No comment here necessary
    Helz - I don't think Helz deserves #1 town, and I realize I'm just town reading him because Helz is a strong player, but that's where the slot is for now.
    Yzb - my note here on yzb is mostly driven by the posts by Leto/vacaron. Initially pegged him as scum, but advocated for some pro town things and is now in this spot
    Vacaron - Leto used to be my top town, but i haven't liked the content in the last few [days?], placing here.
    Wisp - Advocates for a shitton of pro town strategies. I like this slot a lot gameplay wise, but not too sure about alignment
    MM - I was able to pick MM as a hard town in the last game I played. Wasn't able to do it here buddy.
    HRD/SuperJack - Too much spam, didn't want to sign his name. I guess the archon shit is done and you aren't getting yeeted today. I'd like to see your day 2.
    Samson - Riddles and role play, even being asked to stop.
    Dark Magician - Says that they don't care about the game. They can die.


    I'm not a huge fan of how the top of my list sorted itself out, but I like the bottom.

    It feels like I'm missing Bahkeih and SamsungLyssa?

    Also, I am way too fucking tired to go back AGAIN through the list and look for ranking/reads. Game ends on the 26th, right?
    Ok yeah TBF I suppose your theory is probable but still very unlikely.

    @MM

    Do you honestly believe though he goes from a top scum to top town on me via Demon yeeted reasoning he gave?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    @Dark Magician welcome back!

    About you being """confirmed""", that has been addressed a long time ago. Mag's D2 list of reads wasn't placing anyone strictly and clearly above others like he would have done if he had a check. This means he either didn't check (quite unlikely) or checked the N1 kill, Helz (very likely). As you pointed out yourself, he put you on a level similar to the level of a flipped PR (therefore a non-check).
    It's funny you're pushing the exact thing Martin was pushing lol: the DM check theory, even though it was disproven. It goes exactly with the Martin/Rhand world from last day, where Martin has been pushing a world where his scummate is "confirmed town". Given that I might not be able to come back online before EoD tomorrow, I think I'm convinced enough to place my vote. May @Wiisp have mercy upon me lol

    -vote Dark Magician
    Why TF Would he check is TR.

    @Magorath
    Iím sorry dude but players like these is way you just hard claim cop on this site and just accept your death to give town an IC that no one can deny.
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    God your so naive.
    @Marshmallow Marshall

    You ainít this Bally as scum.


    -vote Bahkieh

    Iíd vote this before the afk scum comes in and hammers.
    Unless this is plurality only.
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    You should know this shit MM, SMH.
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    Also didnít you make the fuckin rolelist?
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    Let me point something out to you.

    Mag Scum reads me the most Day 1.
    Mag checks to see if someone is Vanilla or PR.
    Vanilla Mafia dies Day 1.
    Mag comes into the day with a 180 TR on me and the only other person they TRíed as hard as me was SJ which flipped PR.
    Mag was Cop

    So the only real valid excuse for you not to believe me being green checked is if Mag forgot to use their action and I donít take them as the type to do that and they didnít look super busy either.
    Plus the reason they actually gave to TR me was more of a fake accusation to use so they didnít have to out their Green on me.

    @Marshmallow Marshall
    Make sense now?
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    Iíma here and Iím doing some typing.
    Ima wait for you MM.

    If you want to fight with me, we can.
    But I hope you realize their is no way in hell Mag didnít green check me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    @Rhand , you are my main suspect, since Martin flipped scum. Anything to say? In the off-chance you're town, you have to do something here.
    ďOh yes MM I have magical GF abilities to where I mess with the results of MagĒ.
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    If I go with my day 1 solve its Bah.
    If I go with who least deserves the win itís Bah.
    If I go with who lacked effort, itís Bah.
    If I go with whoís trying to pull this game through, itís not Bah.

    MM probably the Town here Tbh.
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    Kinda like to hear from Bah before making my final choice.
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    I wanna say if it was Bah he kills me since MM forgot I was IC.
    But IDK.
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    Now question remains, did Martin and MM do the big brain bus play?
    Or is it just Bah?
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    Iím been approved by AIVION to join back so,
    @Marshmallow Marshall

    I was Green Check by Mag remember? Lol.
    SJ couldnít have been Green Checked because they PR.
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    @Wiisp
    I can replace back in since itís been awhile and Iím not as busy and heated as I was before.
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    Shame on you Frinckles!
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    Hey I told you to ping me on discord when this game started!
    I wanted my part 2 to this game as Caustic.
    Reeee
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcron View Post
    MM was right a few pages ago when he said all you do is OMGUS, it's actually quite hilarious to watch.
    Yeah I bet it was fun to watch me do it to MM.
    ďTvT DumbnessĒ
    But now when Iím doing it to you I bet itís kinda harder to watch eh? Like you got caught and need to think of anything, anything that you can think of to try and get out of it.
    And you havenít thought of anything good have you?
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    Sorry not similar reads but similar mindset or ďmindmeltĒ as he put it.
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    Like one of
    Me/Varcron - Me/MM is a dumb T/T

    ^ Martin

    Then Varcron and his wolfy butt responds:
    Oooooooo
    You think myself and MM are scum!!!??!!
    How you do that, tell me tbh, Iím really bad at this and I want to throw random shit out of my ass and provide no actual Understandment towards what Iím saying.
    Iím very proud of putting someone who has similar reads as me (only fuckin reason) just below me in my lock towns. If people pressure and push me Iíll win by contradicting myself!

    DM responds with:
    TF you on Varcron?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcron View Post
    I don't see how DM is town in both of those situations, you're basically implying that the scum are MM and myself from that phrase.

    I'm curious how you came to that conclusion tbh.
    I think you like....
    Have some kind of problem.
    Or your lolwolfing.

    Cause like he clearly stated he thinks only one of You/MM is scum or itís an even dumber TvT game or something.
    And if you actually read his posts, Martin thinks Iím the IC here and not SJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcron View Post
    How I typically work is start from where I left off responding as I go, but sure, will do.



    Near EOD1 DM was threatening a thunderdome on me for BD2, however as you can already see BD2 he cleared me as town, followed by some really goofy shenanigans where we are basically going back and forth now.

    Town lean on Bakh originally came from comparing him to DM with the level of OMGUS and read swaps that came with him, however after his sheep vote of me that changed substantially as you will read later.



    Explain your vote please and give us insight into your brain.

    Iím not sure what you plan to get out of all this.
    All your doing is spewing Me/MM/Bah Town after your scum flip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcron View Post
    You calling anyone that doesn't agree with you my "scum partner"

    Honestly it looks more and more like my theory of scum between MM/DM/Bahk (2/3 of them are scum) is accurate.
    Wow you contradict yourself into a contradiction that comes back to contradict again.

    You said me and MM were scum together
    Denied you said it like that
    Now your saying we are scum together.

    MK.
    Just gonna wait for you to deny it again lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    tbh

    -vote Marshmallow Marshall


    Though I think SJ's reasons are dumb.

    But the interaction between DM and Varcron looks dumber.
    Ok TY your Varcronís partner.
    Noted, this makes it easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctiZ View Post
    Oh, yeah.. Force of habit I guess?
    You might have scum slipped.
    Unsure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctiZ View Post
    I'd have no problems lynching Samson at this point but I wouldn't hammer right now since Martin for example hasn't even checked in. I'm fine with considering SJ town even if Mag hasn't explicitly said anything about having checked SJ. And if Samson turns up town I'd probably like to pursue DM first and then MM. Those are my current thoughts.
    Yeah Iíd have lots of problems Lynching Samson RN.
    Heís Town and Varcron ainít.
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    Yep Iím convinced.
    Varcron!Scum spews MM/Bah as Town.

    Leaving a Game Winning PoE of Nok/Martin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    Just checkin In. You all think I'm town?
    Unless this is a bastard game, Mag Green Checked you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahkieh View Post
    I actually dunno how to do the multiple replies thing yall people do, but this is why I moved my vote last day, to bring to someone who seems to get forgotten about often.

    As far as with Varcron, I dunno man, seems all over the place. Like they want to call me scum but know I'm town.

    On another note, I kind of expect SJ to be killed this coming night either from the nightly kill or the 1 delayed kill. Assuming my understanding of how the devils abilities work are correct lol.
    Yeah this post like, never comes from Scum.
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    Yeah the only issue with that is,
    Your not flipping Angel you flipping Saton or the other one.
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    I think Bah is Town.
    Bah is Def Town when Varcron flips Scum.
    Bahís vote on Varcron I donít think ever comes from a buddy.
    Also how Varcron is treated Bah is different from Nok and Martin to the point I donít believe they are partners.

    Think we just yeet Noc/Martin after Varcron Tbh.
    Still would like Martin present just to have more to go from.
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    Oh NM Iím stupid, ignore that ďBoldedĒ post.
    Looks like I needed a Re-read lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcron View Post
    The part about bahk was when I originally had him on my scum reads with samson which changed D2 if I didn't make that clear enough.
    So before Samson was yeeted you TR Bah yes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcron View Post
    This is a sheep vote

    Explain your reasoning, I'll probably be lynched anyways but this looks like just because DM and MM agree (one of them are likely scum btw) that makes me scum.
    Iím sorry what you said made absolutely no sense.
    Can you elaborate on Bolded please and then tell me why Bolded was the deciding sentence without a re-read.
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    Clear:
    SJ and Myself

    High Town: Bah

    Deciding: Martin

    PoE:
    Nok, MM and Varcron
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    Iíd really like Martin to participate so I can have more here! ^_^
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    Yeah Iím thinking Bah is town here and itís between MM/Varcron/Nok
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctiZ View Post
    I'm really surprised myself that Varcron put me at the very top of his list. I was thinking a couple of irl days ago that I hadn't ever interacted with Varcron and then he comes out seeing me as top town. Not impossible, but I don't think the things I said warrant such a "solid" town read of me. I'd slot Varcron as possible to be scum, especially with the way they're twisting what they're saying as MM and also DM have pointed out. Although I don't like DM in that regard either, atleast I'd say it's unlikely that they're both scum. Except for bussing shenanigans, I think.

    I'm kinda of the opinion that there's one scum between DM and Varcron and one scum between MM and SJ tbh. If there's facts that speak against that then let me know. It's just my inituition leading me to that impression. Although I don't like how Martin is flying under the radar again since he pops up sporadically with a few walls and seems to be gone. That's okay, but makes me forget about him which is dangerous.
    I donít know if you realized this but Mag had a Green on SJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    MM just likes to lie
    Iím sceptical of MM as well.
    But Varcron is forced and fake today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Oh really, changing your words?

    You absolutely said that, and even more so since SJ is quite obviously the check here.

    About the orange part:

    You said to ignore the part in orange. The part in orange was "other than bahk" in the part about your worldbuilding. Removing that part implies you're removing him from your worldbuilding, hence why I'm questioning you. Are you saying it was a mistake/not what you meant to do?

    Nice ignoring of my other questions.
    You are panic-reacting to my questions here. I was asking for clarifications because the list was suspicious, but my mind wasn't set at all; you had been rather towny earlier. What you are saying now is utter bullshit, though, and I don't think you're honest in saying it.

    I don't really know what to think of DM anymore, given the amount of contradictory signals I'm getting about him... but this isn't town.
    -vote Varcron
    -vote Varcron
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcron View Post
    To be honest it could be bad gameplay on my part

    First real long game in ~8 months for me.
    Why.
    You.
    Do.
    This.
    So.
    Much.

    Youíve play has been faked this game.
    Youíve been extremely apologetic this game to the point I donít think you would do it this much.
    You Contradicted yourself poorly where it looks like a scum slip here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcron View Post
    Bad english skills, I really need to read back before I send something.



    Pocketting him wouldn't worth, there would still be a 3v4 in scum favor assuming I am scum.

    Your logic is flawed.

    Bad townie gameplay on my part, if we lose because of my typo I'll make sure to be clearer next time.
    MY logic?
    LMAO.
    No, I think I caught you as scum here.
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