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  1. Forum:Mafia Bug Reports

    Thread:Bank Reset workaround

    Thread Author:Killy

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    Sticky: {Solved} ►►Re: on bank file issue, I might request point request someday◄◄

    How to fix the glitch on your bank file.


    (I)
    Spoiler : two points before the specific solution. :


    (1)
    the most valuable post in this thread is this line :

    Quote Originally Posted by DJarJar View Post
    the "save name" lines in the banks were incrementing by a single whitespace
    What is happening?
    In every game, your bank file is getting grown. And your "savename(1~3)" values get filled with a long column of whitespaces.
    That causes the bank file issue.

    How can I avoid the problem?
    All you need is to overwrite "save names"


    (2)
    You can name your saves with "-savename#" command.

    Frinckles : "Type -savename1 (name)"
    You could only access -savename1 at the point of 5th June,
    It unlocked -savename2 &3 for me when I checked on 17th June (Friday?).

    I have no idea how many points you need to reach those commands.
    But I believe the players who encountered the bank glitch would have more than 50k points for those commands.
    (according to Frinckles, 20k points for save slot 1)


    (I asked some mods/admins "How can I overwrite save names?"
    But I didn't get an answer.
    I had to look up all announcements in the January log.
    Oh yes. I remember Frinckles suggested to me "Why don't you name your save?"
    But I didn't know how.

    I feel Mafia 2.0 has a problem with the way of announcements.)


    Additional note. Your bank file still grows after the override.
    so it's a coping approach. We are looking forward to a fixed patch.


    (II) the coping approach.

    Overwrite your save names with typing "-savename1 (name)"

    Same with -savename2, -savename3 (name)


    For example:
    Type "-savename1 Caroler 8331", and your save1 name will be set to "Caroler 8331"
    I'm using "a blue blank, a white blank, and a red blank" with tag for each save. (Tricolore!)

    Thank you

    @Hotrian
  2. [Restoration Request] ►►Re: on bank file issue, I might request point request someday◄◄

    How to fix the glitch on your bank file.


    (I)
    Spoiler : two points before the specific solution. :


    (1)
    the most valuable post in this thread is this line :

    Quote Originally Posted by DJarJar View Post
    the "save name" lines in the banks were incrementing by a single whitespace
    What is happening?
    In every game, your bank file is getting grown. And your "savename(1~3)" values get filled with a long column of whitespaces.
    That causes the bank file issue.

    How can I avoid the problem?
    All you need is to overwrite "save names"


    (2)
    You can name your saves with "-savename#" command.

    Frinckles : "Type -savename1 (name)"
    You could only access -savename1 at the point of 5th June,
    It unlocked -savename2 &3 for me when I checked on 17th June (Friday?).

    I have no idea how many points you need to reach those commands.
    But I believe the players who encountered the bank glitch would have more than 50k points for those commands.
    (according to Frinckles, 20k points for save slot 1)


    (I asked some mods/admins "How can I overwrite save names?"
    But I didn't get an answer.
    I had to look up all announcements in the January log.
    Oh yes. I remember Frinckles suggested to me "Why don't you name your save?"
    But I didn't know how.

    I feel Mafia 2.0 has a problem with the way of announcements.)


    Additional note. Your bank file still grows after the override.
    so it's a coping approach. We are looking forward to a fixed patch.


    (II) the coping approach.

    Overwrite your save names with typing "-savename1 (name)"

    Same with -savename2, -savename3 (name)


    For example:
    Type "-savename1 Caroler 8331", and your save1 name will be set to "Caroler 8331"
    I'm using "a blue blank, a white blank, and a red blank" with tag for each save. (Tricolore!)

    Thank you

    @Hotrian
  3. [Restoration Request] ►►Re: on bank file issue, I might request point request someday◄◄

    I have found a solution and fixed my old backup bank that went south.

    There is an answer in this thread already.
    Another vital component was in February disc.ch log.
    . (I feel Mafia2.0 has a problem with the way of announcements)


    Our wizard Frinckles has announced that "There will be fixes for the save slot bug by Friday" (but which Friday? )
    So I'd like not to steal his accomplishment.
    (Also I believe a fixed patch is worth more than any coping approach)

    In case you can't wait for the patch, the ChannelMiner method would be an iq 500 solution.
  4. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:Exeter: 1-S2-1-5640160

    Thread Author:Killy

    Post Author:Killy

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    {Watch List} ►►Re: Exeter: 1-S2-1-5640160◄◄

    Correcting URL of the precedent case.

    x incorrect : https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...1-S2-1-5640160
    ->
    o correct url : https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...-S2-1-11531682


    In the GhostDragon's report,
    A player :Paopan had to leave the game.
    Do you have to punish Paopan for it? --- No.

    Spoiler : Everyone has their own life :


    Maybe, Paopan's ex-girlfriend had paid him a surprise visit. Ok. Good luck and have fun with her.
    Maybe, the real mafia tried to break into his house. Oh, evac immediately. Or pull out the military-grade assault rifle to deal with the intruder.
    Maybe, he had to quit since his Windows was going to crash
    We don't know


    Everyone has their reason.
    That's why we don't punish for simple quitting immediately.
    That's why we always have to check "intent" and "tendency"


    Exeter:
    I have the choice to choose what I want to waste my time on.

    I'll just afk next time then. And alt tab and do my own things.

    Will afking be the next punishable offense?

    How about leaving halfway?

    Enjoy your endless cult and Chaos saves
    ok. Is that your answer?
    You've already announced your intention.

    Q.(2) Any proposed alternative?
    Venna :
    that's the whole point of -repick
    or hosting your own lobbies and waiting for the previous game to finish

    Mafia's been this way as long as I can remember; sometimes you have to play saves you don't like when the repick doesn't go through
    why are you suddenly upset about it?
    I agree.

    A.(2) Developers have put "repicking poll system"
    And we have the right to -repick.
    Especially Exeter has x4 power to repick with 60k points.
    Does he want more power?
    (I can agree just on the point. If we had a longer time for the setup phase as -Mafia- used to be)

    I don't know why does this player have to pick the extreme method with destruction to remake lobbies.
    At least, please don't ruin our games with your justice.


    Here's one certain thing.
    "If players quit Exeter's hosting lobby without a word"
    or If you quit his game for the reason the Mafia vs Triad setup seems boring/unbalanced,
    Exeter will be going to punish you for sure.

    Thank you.
  5. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:Exeter: 1-S2-1-5640160

    Thread Author:Killy

    Post Author:Killy

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    {Watch List} ►►Re: Exeter: 1-S2-1-5640160◄◄

    (III) Imagine the future that you design.

    There is a similar case as a precedent. the report on GhostDragon

    https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...1-S2-1-5640160

    Summary :.
    Paopan claims he has to leave, and does so.
    GhostDragon writes "I will stay" "no worries" and left after submitting the name "PAOPAN'S OTHER ARM".

    As this was the 3rd times the lobby has been remade because of leave-train I am going to carry out a Leave-Train charge as he was mostly also trolling.
    Spoiler : ” GhostDragon is Drapeol's alt" :

    GhostDragon is Drapeol's alt and he d still have active smurfs for sure.
    (Sometimes, he still visits mafia lobbies. It was May 2022 for the last time. He remains his passion for mafia)
    Also, he is known for having deep faith in the 942 setups. ("942 OR BURST!")


    (A)
    Ok. the mods or Auwt can make a "new standard" for this case.
    "Everyone has the right to leave any setups (as long as we do not incite others to do so)"

    What happens next?
    Spoiler : I have a bad feeling about this. :


    GhostDragon (Drapoel) and his <942> clan members can start to leave trains for 942 setups. (the Clan <942> really exists!)

    Can you blame them? --- No. they have strong faith in 942.
    they would call the sprechchor. "942 is good. 8331 is boring. 933 is more boring!"

    Can you stop them? or can you punish them for trains?
    --- No. You are going to give them legitimized permission to leave lobbies that they don't like.
    It's not just <942> believers.

    Look at the near future that you gonna design with your selfish justification
    Everyone can force to remake lobbies for their rights and justice.
    Everyone can quit since he doesn't like the lobby setup (or the host).

    Is that the future of the -Mafia- which you imagine?
    I believe it destroys -Mafia-.



    (B) Go back to the precedent report summary,

    GhostDragon didn't say "I will leave" He didn't incite leave trains either.
    But he had caused leave trains 3 times to remake lobbies.
    And he was punished for it.


    What's the difference between GhostDragon and Exeter's leaving?

    (GhostDragon's quitting is bad, but Exeter's leaving is good?)

    Could you explain?
  6. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:Exeter: 1-S2-1-5640160

    Thread Author:Killy

    Post Author:Killy

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    {Watch List} ►►Re: Exeter: 1-S2-1-5640160◄◄

    Hi Exe,

    Three points on this discussion.

    (I)

    Spoiler : A man lays and leaves sleeping girls' bodies on the railroad. :

    A man lays and leaves sleeping girls' bodies on the railroad every week.
    He finds chaos and the signs of cult in girls' souls.
    He dislikes them.

    Did he want to kill sleeping girls? Not sure.
    He was just thinking "Trains might 'purify' girls. maybe not. It's ok if girls get killed. I can't stand them. I don't care."

    That's called "dolus eventualis" in a legal term.

    One night, a train runs a girl over. Actually, twice.
    He'd be prosecuted for homicide by willful negligence.

    "There s no law which prohibits laying sleeping girls' bodies on the railroad", he d insist. Yes. Correct
    "I was not fun with those girls" Oh well.
    "I didn't ask the train company to run the train her over" No, he didn't.

    Then, who did kill her? We point at the man.

    (1)Hotrian lobbies and (2)ChannelMiner's game.
    Those lobbies were destroyed, and those games were killed by trains.

    (Usual lobbies endure "-1 player" with 14/15 players games. It's playable.
    With -2 players, 13/15... maybe not.
    In the 12/15 situation, a couple of people gonna call 'remake' and start leaving. You can't stop the tide.
    That's the "leave train" mechanics. The first -1/-2 initiating leavers cause trains.

    Crime: Leave Trains
    Leave training is defined as causing a mass leaving of the game.
    This rule just exists to prevent leave-trains.
    I thought this man wanted to correct problems in the bleeding -Mafia- Community.
    Idk why he tries to justify himself and tries to ruin the bones about the rule.

    Who did cause "a couple of mass leaving of the games"?
    Exeter caused them by "willful negligence" for "his right" and his "justice".



    (II) Point of view: the abandoned people.

    Spoiler : ” In replay (1)” :

    there was an autokick. then Exeter quit. He didn't like the setup.
    result: a game with 13/15. *Leave train*.
    Several people had left the game since the name selection and day 1.

    Some players stayed to continue playing a small 4 towns vs 2 mafias game.
    the brave marshall tried to manage. but the game had already been destroyed.

    Why did we have to get punished for staying in the games?

    Spoiler : ” In replay (2)” :

    Channel Miner loaded Cult vs Mason save.
    Exeter -preferred Cultist and WD while he tried to force to remake the cult lobby. (oh, deja-vu)
    He had quit. He didn't like the cult save but he rolled cultist.

    Have you imagined how the poor WitchDoctor felt alone and abandoned?
    Or has he considered the games that he's destroyed for his right and justice?

    Has this player ever considered about remaining players?
    I bet He has never.

    The question (1) should be like that:
    (1) Do staying players have the right to play non-destroyed games they wish to spend 25 mins on?
  7. [Restoration Request] ►►on bank file issue, I might request point request someday◄◄

    Hi, I'm killy.

    Thanks a lot to all -Mafia- players, the staff , and the developers.
    Most part of the post might be a bug report on a bank file issue, addressed to Frinckles.
    it would be a point restoration request. or maybe not.


    (I) Some mafia players realized this problem in late April.
    There's a bank file issue/ bug.

    Spoiler : 'YOUR BANK IS INVALID!' :


    One day, suddenly, it will happen to you.
    The mafia system says:
    "WARNING - YOUR BANK IS INVALID! NO STATS WILL BE SAVED! delete "MBank13.SC2Bank"!.
    And it announces the disgracing and unpleasant message to everyone:
    "##### is hacker! Please report #####!"

    This happened to BrockSamson, it happened to ChannelMiner, it happened to Max, it happened to Law, it happened to BattleSause. It happened to me. And it happened to every player who plays -Mafia- a lot.

    Some of us deleted bank files and gave up points /stats/ setups.
    Some of us roll-backed our bank files from old banks.


    (II)
    Spoiler : What happened? :

    (1) I took a backup of my bank file(*) just one day ago

    (2) After a few games playing, I encountered the bank reset issue.
    The system asked to delete my bank file. So I rolled back to (*)'s old bank file

    (3) the bank issue happened again. (I rolled back the bank again and again)

    I realized "this bank issue is happening every 5 games (after rolling back the bank file to (*))"


    (III)
    Spoiler : What is happening? :

    A bank glitch happened in the next game after the one I hadn't stayed till the end. (hey, I d rolled lover, and the role rarely survives)
    Usually, your bank saves your stats at the end of the game (*2).
    Something is strange. So I checked what was happening to my bank file during the games.

    following "3 bytes file size increasing" happens at the setup phase. not at the end of the game part which saves your stats(*2)

    (I was skipping (*2) the "saving stats" phase for the reproducibility test. but I m not throwing a single game for the test)



    *Fact*
    (A) the -Mafia- system gets your bank file size increased by 3 bytes in every game at the initial phase in which the host load setups.

    (B) my back-uped bank(*) has 9083 bytes (9KB).
    the bank file size gets increased by 3 bytes in every game (at the setup phase).


    *record:
    (1) 9083 bytes {roll-backed (*) bank file} -> (2) 9086 bytes -> (3) 9089 bytes -> (4) 9092 bytes -> (5)9095 bytes

    I can play games with (1)~(4) banks without a problem.
    When I play with (5)'s bank file (9095 bytes), there s a warning "your bank is invalid" and there is a big announcement "killy is a hacker"

    I repeated da (1)~(5) sequence more than three times.
    There was reproducibility.


    *guess*
    When the sum of these "3 bytes" reaches a number of sizes, or when the total bank file size exceeds a limit (9095 bytes),
    might the -Mafia- system treat the bank files as invalid to announce "##### is a hacker"?
    (maybe the system did't expect the bank file gets 9KB sized?)

    Channel Miner: "My glitched bank file had 9KB size. I got point restored by Arrow. and the current bank file size is 4KB."
    It matches my condition. "9KB" is the same as mine. and It would support my hypothesis.


    (IV)
    Spoiler : I believe the same bug will happen to everyone. :

    Drizzt and I have rolled back our bank files with old backups.
    But I believe the same issue is going to happen to us when our bank files reach 9095 bytes again.
    I believe the same bug will happen to everyone. Your bank file is growing by 3 bytes in every game.
    (please check your bank file size changing during games for more samples)

    ("I haven't encountered the bug yet" --- It's just "you haven't played the game a lot yet")

    Also, we are getting called "You are hackers! Please report!"
    Is it funny to the staff? At least, not so fun for us.

    Did you hack? --- No. We didn't.
    We are getting punished for playing -Mafia- a lot.

    I believe we can count on the wizard Flickles that he is going to solve this bank issue someday.
    Just in case devs have to give the bank glitch up as hopeless, I might request a point restoration.
    (ChannelMiner's method would be the best. Refreshing your bank file)
    in that time, let me count on you.

    Thank you
  8. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:Exeter: 1-S2-1-5640160

    Thread Author:Killy

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    {Watch List} ►►Exeter: 1-S2-1-5640160◄◄

    Account Name: Exeter
    Account ID: 1-S2-1-5640160
    Crimes Committed: Leave trains, Discriminatory terms.

    Your Account Name: killy

    Summary:

    This player caused "leave trains" and ruined games.
    Although he rarely plays mafia, we saw his quitting (at the beginning of name selections) every week constantly.
    It seems this player uses his "quitting" as a method to force to remake lobbies.

    (I) replay descriptions

    Name: -Mafia- (1) 051522.SC2Replay
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    the lobby host Hotrian loaded Chaos 833 setup.
    Exeter quit at the beginning of the name selection.

    *Leave train* 7 people followed.
    "Most of the entire town was wiped out" on the first night
    We played small 4 towns vs 2 mafias game, then dismissed.

    Name: mafia  (2) 052522.SC2Replay
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    the lobby host Channel Miner loaded 922 cults vs masons save.
    Some players didn't like the cult setup.

    Exeter has quit since the beginning of the name selection. (in-game time [00:27])
    *Leave train* 4 players followed.
    "A mass quantity of people died n1"

    Exeter hosted his own lobby 2 minutes after quitting.


    "terrible game due to leave train. terrible game" --- the abandoned WitchDoctor's word. (quitting Exeter rolled Culist)


    (II) additional records:

    Spoiler : it was 'dolus eventualis' :


    (3) another different game, 05/25/22 same date with replay(2),
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    (4) another different game, 05/09/22
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    (5) another different game, 05/09/22
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    replay(1) is from 05/15/22
    replay(2) is from 05/25/22

    All of those events took place in May.
    The player is quitting at the beginning of the name selections or in the first 10 seconds of the D1.

    ---Hey. It might even be that his toaster made the circuit breaker trip, right?
    In that case, there should be a "waiting for player" window pop-up.
    But no window popup. It was due to F10 Alt-QQ (surreNder command), more than by accidents.

    This player quits games at 00:27~00:29 timing.
    "00:28" corresponds to "at the beginning of the name selection" when hosts use the quick setup technic (with Chaos mode).
    (I confirmed Hotrian was using Chaos mode with quick setup)

    Hotrian is a good player. His hosting is also legit.
    Is this player not a big fan of Hotrian hosting games? (or Chaos setup)

    There was willful negligence for those leave trains result of his quitting.


    (III)Discriminatory terms
    Summary:
    this player has used the offensive term "you dumb fucking mongoloid (DS)" in the lw box, in-game chat, and in a whisper. I have the replay if needed.

    Spoiler : 'you fucking down' / 'you fucking mongoloid ' It was Toast's favorite line. :

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    this case is similar to this one as a precedent
    https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...-S2-1-11531682

    Exeter is a Chinese player in Singapore.
    Maybe, in Singapore, "you dumb fucking mongoloid" might have another meaning.
    Maybe, it mightn't matter to the staff Mongolian people being referred to as synonymous with Down Syndrome.



    Still, I believe nobody has a right to ruin the other 14 players' chance to play the mafia game.
    Nobody has a right to ruin the other 14 players' good time with -Mafia-.
    It breaks the rules.
    Thank you
  9. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:killy: 1-S2-1-5387491

    Thread Author:Exeter350

    Post Author:Killy

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    {Watch List} ►►Re: killy: 1-S2-1-5387491◄◄

    Various mods have already played my EasterBunny 8331 setup more than 150 times.

    I believe there should be an announcement when ChannelMiner wants to put the Xmas tree away since winter has passed.

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    Oh, Exeter was also playing an EB game.

    Any comment / any announcement / any warning from Exeter or Admins?
    --- No.


    I repeat. If Mods shows the standards (A) clearly, I believe it's very nice for the community.
    And it might be worth sacrificing of 2 new episodes of BetterCallSaul.



    (III)
    I was writing a daily record here. but it seems not a big point.

    Spoiler : you don't have to read it. :

    (1)04/16/2022 Justice and so on have appeared in -alist
    (2)04/29/2022 Tsarthus hosted his Elector Justice save several times.
    (3)05/02/2022 Exeter was playing EB save.
    (4)05/05/2022 I let Frink know that I have Tsarthus' save in slot 2 to ask
    (5)05/08/2022 I ran Tsarthus' save by accident.

    (1) since 04/18, I've added Justice and so on in P-list to make prefer power slightly mild. I'm actually not interested in achievement hunting or roles without ability other than game balance.

    (3) oh well

    (4) I asked Frinckles that might it cause bank file issue to hold Tsarthus' save
    Of course, he is a developer, not a gamekeeper. It's a technical question.

    (5) This case.

    ChannelMiner 06:17
    Exeter probably wouldve reported everyone that was hosting Soldato/49er saves before they got released.

    Exeter UwU 06:17
    i would've, you're right
    I didn't know Exeter was such an avid explorer.
    I don't support you but go for it.

    Spoiler : Chat Log 02/06/2022 :

    the1andonlyceko ? 2022/02/06
    fuck politics

    Exeter UwU ? 2022/02/06
    Anyway, my point is

    the1andonlyceko ? 2022/02/06
    ubisoft hosted a 3 soldato and 3 caroler save


    Exeter UwU ? 2022/02/06
    Even if Trump is a thing of the past

    the1andonlyceko ? 2022/02/06
    is this shit reportable


    Exeter UwU 2022/02/06
    You have a senile old man in charge now

    Paopan 2022/02/06
    Build more trump tower
    Rule the world

    Exeter UwU 2022/02/06
    And patriotic chali thinks we need something more "homegrown" that we can "take seriously"

    Juish mafia 2022/02/06
    Lol this man really didn't like being told America is great

    Exeter UwU ? 2022/02/06
    Just refuting a point that I thought was ridiculous

    Achaean 2022/02/06
    circle-jerk

    Exeter UwU 2022/02/06
    Not that NK is any better mind you

    (comment: Soldato release date : 03/27/2022

    The current Mafia game system does't allow to get Mayor&Marshall at once in a game, just like the triple Marshall setup.
    I'm curious what's Exeter's next move on M&M setups.)


    (2) here's the replay, Tsarthus hosting to run his save.

    Name: -Mafia- 042922.SC2Replay
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    Good luck with your quest to solve the mystery of the saves, Exeter.

    when mafia bleeds
    for RavenKing reviving his enforcer more than 10 times as his zombies
    for game-throwing happening constantly
    . ( [5 times / 5 days, They are outing the other mafia names : MrFuzzy, hugeshlong(multiple times), suggerDaddy -> JackKern})
    for tons of simple quitting that destroy matches continuously



    (IV)
    though " Admins and Developers hold game titles" would be true.
    If game hosts have more options, and if game players can pick the most popular setups,
    I believe Sc2Mafia would be better stuff...

    Specifically. I'm talking about NI options for poor new neutral killers {poisoner and electromaniac}
    (I know Frinckles is really sick of hearing about this ).
    but I'd like to take this opportunity to comment on it.
    Maybe in another thread, if I have a chance.

    Thank you.
  10. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:killy: 1-S2-1-5387491

    Thread Author:Exeter350

    Post Author:Killy

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    {Watch List} ►►Re: killy: 1-S2-1-5387491◄◄

    It seems my condition is the same as ChannelMiner.
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    -- quoted from Channel Miner post


    Both of us -saved someone's setups that contain Elector. Both of us did possess them. We didn't mean to host them.

    Minor differences :
    Channel miner edited the save. He used it for a bot game. Posted screenshots in public
    I(killy) didn't edit the save. During my host, -slot2 was loaded by accident
    (a game with 14 AIs! I didn't have such an idea )

    (II) Since Exeter is like "punish everything"
    I'd like to add a comment on my Caroler 8331 save.

    Where did the setup come from?
    I -saved Frinckless setup
    and I haven't changed it.

    Spoiler : detail :

    I've joined Frinckles Mafia 2.0 Test since the early days.
    Frinckles said "hey killy, pass me the host"
    He added a Caroler to my 8331. and I -saved it
    Caroler turned into Easter Bunny automatically, when Christmas is over.

    (Most players just use single save in slot1. So do I
    And most players rarely change their saves. Me neither)

    It would be your opinion. Still don't call it "bank hack", Exeter.
    It's a memento of joining Frinck's Mafia2.0 test.


    Bank editing / Bank hacking?

    --- No
    If Exeter wants to call EasterBunny bank hacking, it seems Frinckles would be the great master bank hacker.



    Spoiler : So many elements :

    Do Exeter and Canon(another frustrated community member) want to punish for game balance?
    where s their line. {bank editing / possession / using it / intentional and unintentional}
    "Nig*er" is a bad word, but "you dumb fucking mongoloid" is ok?


    It's not clear which part does Exeter want to punish,

    So I'd like to wait for Exeter to draw more cute diagrams
    And I think we can count on mods to draw a line on them.
    After that, I can resume my defense if needed.


    (II)

    (A) Please show us the boundary of rules
    (B) Announce it
    (C) Apply it fairly

    I'm not the one to protest the process to avoid it.

    Rules are the essence of games, the very heart of them
    They give structure and meaning to our small contests.
    We respect rules.
  11. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:killy: 1-S2-1-5387491

    Thread Author:Exeter350

    Post Author:Killy

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    {Watch List} ►►Re: killy: 1-S2-1-5387491◄◄

    When was the game? --- 05/08/2022

    killy had the intention to host his hacked setup from the beginning.
    --- No.
    Exeter accusing has 3 elements. "intention" "to host(use/run)" "hacked"

    Did you run the setup intentionally?
    --- No. I didn't mean to run it.

    lol(a player) requested "Caroler".
    So I tried to load my caroler 8331 setup, but -slot2 was loaded by accident.

    Did you want to run this?
    --- No.

    Tsarithus save is not balanced at all. I didn't want to play it either.
    I'm repicking Tsarithus hosting

    I(Exeter) believe that that is only a charade meant to throw off any potential reports and reviewers.
    --- No. Very impressive interpretation. haha

    I'd be glad if you refer to the point in which I was re-adjusting weight sliders after the invalid slot was loaded.
    I was thinking 'Caroler 8331 setup' was loaded at that point.

    It happened just because I tried to respond to all requests in 10 seconds.


    Bank editing / Bank hacking?
    --- No. I haven't edited my bank file at all.

    Where did the save {with Elector, Justice, Townnull} come from?
    --- from Tsarthus hosting game.

    Tsarthus 1-S2-1-5509679. He hosted the setup several times. I used -save2 since slot2 was free.
    I'm prepared to submit the replay in the following post.

    Have you edited Tsarthus' setup? --- No.

    Are you trying to run the save every time you get host intentionally?
    --- No. Exeter is way off.

    Have you tried to run this save in the other game?
    --- No. not at all. not only once.

    Do you have this save now? --- No.



    (I)
    Since Exeter added bias with vicious intent,
    and I feel that's very different from the truth,
    I'd like to request to make another review again. please redo the review.
  12. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:killy: 1-S2-1-5387491

    Thread Author:Exeter350

    Post Author:Killy

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    {Watch List} ►►Re: killy: 1-S2-1-5387491◄◄

    Hi, I'm killy. It's my second post.

    I would like to express my thanks to all Mafia players and staff here
    for the great game in StarCraft Arcades. Fantastic roles, very logical game made.


    (I) I wanna correct Exeter's misrepresentation on the replay
    (II) I'd like to request showing the boundary of rules to mods.


    (I) Exeter report was filed without hearing.
    So I'd like to correct his misdirecting description here.

    Since hugeshlong's replay ends halfway through, please refer to this one.

    Name: -Mafia- (15559).SC2Replay
Views: 0
Size: 117.0 KB

    Spoiler : Chat Log :


    --- host(killy) loaded 8331 setup.
    killy : Role request please.
    hugeshlong : judge
    chalibluefin : cult
    --- host increased judge and cult wheight sliders
    lol : caroler
    --- host loaded slot 2 [elector save] (I meant to load Caroler 8331 save)
    --- host increased two requested roles sliders again.

    --- the Game started.
    --- "A veritable Armageddon decimated the town last night."

    killy :"i thought i loaded caroler save. hahaha. " (in lw popup)
    killy :"i tried to load caroler save, since someone requested. but it was Elector save!"

    --- We played a small '3 towns vs 1 neutral evil' game. then dismissed
    killy : sorry for shit hosting

  13. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:killy: 1-S2-1-5387491

    Thread Author:Exeter350

    Post Author:Killy

    Replies
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    {Watch List} ►►Re: killy: 1-S2-1-5387491◄◄

    Hi, I'm killy. It's my second post.

    I would like to express my thanks to all Mafia players and staff here
    for the great game in StarCraft Arcades. Fantastic roles, very logical game made.


    (I) I wanna correct Exeter's misrepresentation on the replay
    (II) I'd like to request showing the boundary of rules to mods.


    (I) Exeter report was filed without hearing.
    So I'd like to correct his misdirecting description here.

    Since hugeshlong's replay ends halfway through, please refer to this one.

    Name: -Mafia- (15559).SC2Replay
Views: 1
Size: 117.0 KB

    Spoiler : Chat Log :


    --- host(killy) loaded 8331 setup.
    killy : Role request please.
    hugeshlong : judge
    chalibluefin : cult
    --- host increased judge and cult wheight sliders
    lol : caroler
    --- host loaded slot 2 [elector save] (I meant to load Caroler 8331 save)
    --- host increased two requested roles sliders again.

    --- the Game started.
    --- "A veritable Armageddon decimated the town last night."

    killy :"i thought i loaded caroler save. hahaha. " (in lw popup)
    killy :"i tried to load caroler save, since someone requested. but it was Elector save!"

    --- We played a small '3 towns vs 1 neutral evil' game. then dismissed
    killy : sorry for shit hosting

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