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    ►►Re: S-FM 356: Divide and Conquer◄◄

    You guys should try this Blood on the Clocktower sometimes. Oh wait Baker has.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 353: Death Nominations◄◄

    I'm giving this a miss in the future. AFK towns along with not being able to get maj means only mafia ever wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir View Post
    same tbh. i feel robbed

    back to blood on cock tower
    Is that a new game?
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    ►►Re: S-FM 353: Death Nominations◄◄

    Yeah I think 24 hours isn't enough time for town by the looks of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    Yeah, sorry about that.
    At least I never town read you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRichardForumLies View Post
    I did not enjoy this game at all. Sorry about that.
    I hated the game every second I was in it.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 353: Death Nominations◄◄

    You had 4 towns who apparently can't play the game they signed up for. No wonder the result was as it is. I should have said no to subbing in,
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    I did not enjoy this game at all. Sorry about that.
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    I didn't find this a fun game. How does town stand a chance when half of them are AFK? You might as well make as a do-over as the host because it's scuffed.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 353: Death Nominations◄◄

    At this point, we have to flip Martin from my perspective yet that might be indistinguishable result wise if they're town as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    We can all agree that scumbot dies ASAP.
    Scumbot ain't dying if I flip, because the game will be over.
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    There were 4 AFK towns this game. No wonder we never stood a chance. I should have known this was a cursed slot.
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    I'd like to say you guys have a serious activity problem if this game is any indication.
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    I'm off to bed. I should be around EoD with my alarm set.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 353: Death Nominations◄◄

    Ideally, it should be Martin and tutuu butting heads yet that's not where the river flows.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 353: Death Nominations◄◄

    -vote MartinGG99

    If we're not going tutuu, then I'm voting here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    Nuh uh

    -vote CRichardForumLies
    Would you unvote me if I vote Martin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    CRich, where is the promised solving / ISOs?
    I need sleep. The EoD has been utter ass to me.
    I need a wolf flip to solve stuff.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 353: Death Nominations◄◄

    @MartinGG99 The choice is yours on who to vote.
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    I'm going to set my alarm around half an hour before end of day.
    -vote tutuu

    Lets pod race with tutuu and Martin wagons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    I think maybe talking about your solve would be more productive at this point?

    How much time do you have in the thread before EoD, CRich?
    Assuming EoD is in the morning, that doesn't make for much time before I go to bed.
    I'll double check so that I don't fall for AssUme = Ass out of U and Me.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 353: Death Nominations◄◄

    That being said. I wonder who would i vote if it was Baker/Ikarus/Me. Eh it's a hypothetical scenario, back to reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    You literally told me that Baker being a wolf is impossible and then when I questioned it further it was further based on the assumption that ikarus being a wolf was impossible (although you did at least roll the ikarus bit back somewhat).
    Ikarus voted me and that's obvious eyebrow raising in hindsight if Martin is mafia.
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    Ikarus voting me is noteworthy assuming Martin flips mafia today. It's either clueless town or mafia trying to save their buddy, yet that's a conversation for tomorrow assuming there is one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    I'm referring specifically to the last 12 hours or so where you've vocally advocated for powerwolfing in the game and the consensus being completely wrong but also haven't shown any reevaluation of the two most widely townread slots in the game and expressed a complete lack of paranoia on both of them.

    I hope things get more comfortable for you whatever your offline situation is though.
    They aren't the nominees. So they aren't exactly a priority solve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    I mean, wouldn't Baker have to keep pushing on Scumbot today after doing so yesterday to sell the act? Especially because that would mean one of their teammates (presumably Martin if you're town) was on the nominations list and could die, causing the game to go to a F5 where that distancing would no longer be pointless?

    And for ikarus: this is just further hammering in my point that you don't seem to have put any actual thought into reevaluating consensus townread players despite being the loudest advocate for us being powerwolfed (in which case the odds that at least one of those two are playing a strong wolf performance and fooling us is pretty high).
    I'll have you know I've been running on fumes the last few days thanks to real life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    Wouldn't you already know one of them was mafia assuming you're town?
    I'm aware of that. I'm more interested in knowing if it's one or two mafia between the two of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    I know about tutuu teams fupov but what stops Baker/scumbot/Martin or Baker/ikarus/Martin working from your perspective?
    Baker pushing on scumbot feels pointless if they're a wolf confident the game is ending today.
    Ikarus is one of the townier slots, though I'm wondering if this is a skill issue on my part.
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    I'm of the mind to vote tutuu to see if it gets Martin to move their vote. That would in my mind point towards one of them being mafia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    Because the game would be over if the nominations were t/t/t.
    My point exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    So you're saying that you think it's impossible?
    Yes. It's why I'm ride or die on baker being town. As I can't find a mafia team with baker that fits.
    If I'm skill issued here, then so be it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    I'd probably hazard a guess and say that if you're town, Martin and Tutuu aren't also t/t.
    The fact that the game isn't over mechanically confirms Martin/Tutuu and I can't all be town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    You wanna think about that one a little more? Lmao
    This is why I was saying Baker as mafia is a fringe world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    That's fair but it's also like

    You don't seem to be trying particularly hard rn to actually find that mafia member (since you seem to think only one is most likely).
    It's one/two of Martin and tutuu mechanically. I haven't figured out the full teams from each yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    I see.

    What fringe worlds would you be considering with baker as mafia in?
    For Baker to be mafia, it would have to be 2 of you/Ikarus/Scumbot on their team.
    That's where my head is at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRichardForumLies View Post
    It's true that Baker is my top town read as of now. Yet I'm aware there's the chance I'm getting snowed by them faster than Russia in blizzard season, yet it's not worth worrying about if we don't get mafia flipped out of Martin/tutuu today.
    EBWODP
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    It's true that Baker is my top town read as of now. Yet I'm aware there's the change I'm getting snowed by them faster than Russia in blizzard season, yet it's not worth worrying about if we don't get mafia flipped out of Martin/tutuu today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    If you think you're getting hosed by a townread wolf team then isn't that the point where you need to reset all of your townreads and look and things critically from scratch?

    That's not at all matching your very lazy read on baker that seems to show no paranoia over him at all (which is bad regardless of baker's alignment).
    I'll be honest. I have baker as mafia in fringe worlds, yet that doesn't matter if the game ends today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    Seems fair but what are you planning on doing while neither of them are here?
    Look through their ISOs and either keep my vote on Martin/change to tutuu. MM Marshall giving a cursed nominee list in hindsight this game yikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    CRich, you're saying that you think that the other two players in the noms are more likely t/w than not. What's your plan for solving them this game before deadline?
    Real time interact with them. Which incidentally is what I did with Martin earlier today.
    Which is at least in part why I'm thinking voting Martin might be the wrong move today on my part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    How so? (Outside of what I said against a Baker/Tutuu w/w world in the posts that you're quoting of mine).
    Baker has nothing to gain from bussing tutuu, when there is Martin/myself over there today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    Yes and no, it just really depends on specific context.

    In this case, I think most scenarios with a Baker/Tutuu team would have an easier way to win in just pushing between the villager/s in Martin/CRichm
    Mafia teams including Baker and tutuu are broken from today's votes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    If they're not w/w and you're town then that world is almost always one where we've been powerwolfed all game and / or miscleared ikarus, right?
    Saying we've been powerwolfed this game is like saying the Sun rises in the East.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    Even ignoring how common F7 bussing is, Tutuu hasn't pushed anyone yet though, right?
    Actually now you mention it. tutuu hasn't taken a stance by voting either Martin or I.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    What's making you lean no on them as w/w atm?
    They would probably just push me together today if they were w/w.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    I get your reasoning CRich and I'm very much in the same boat but the difference is that I'm using it as an opportunity to critically reevaluate every possible world including things like Baker powerwolfing instead of just saying that the lhf slot can't be a wolf because they're lhf.
    Tell you what. If Martin flips mafia, then I'd be checking if tutuu can be mafia with them. I'm leaning no, though we don't have the luxury of making lazy reads this stage.
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    I'm of course not throwing out Martin as mafia world by any means. It's that when the obvious pushes were all mislunches, it might be time to not just settle for the easy lunch when that hasn't worked out this game obviously.
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    My logic is very simple. I'm town as one of the nominees in LyLo, the game hasn't ended so that means it's one/both Martin/Tutuu is mafia as it's impossible for the 3 of us to be all town. The easy pushes on the AFKers were all town, and Martin feels like an easy push into the game losing mislunch from vibes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vittae View Post
    I said the possibility of, not that it's necessarily happening rn.

    I'm concerned about the logic you're using towards tutuu being a wolf being very thin + you not responding to things I'm asking you to respond to (and just attacking my credibility) + you joining the thread just at the right time to make Baker's push on tutuu credible and then going along with it.
    I've responded to what you've asked me. Which parts did I miss? I can't see them unless they're right in my face.
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    You can say one of Baker or I might be powerwolfing sure, yet there's no world where Baker and I are w/w this game. Their progression on me doesn't come across as mafia doing fake solving. If that's the case, then they've snowed me harder than Russia during blizzard season.
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