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    /unsign sry hf all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euna View Post
    If you think about it, the stigma behind racism is just a social construct barring the essence of humans. It is true that some people exude racism and homophobia to a fundamentally wrong point. But it also true that some people unnecessarily White-Knight others which taints what I believe true equality is--impossible. Time and energy drive the cogwheel of life, and our ability to to make quick, effective decisions is vital for survival. There is no changing that except for the better; less time and energy for more effectiveness. That is what racism and homophobia are: utilities towards evolution. Nonetheless, the ideals of people should be respected. Most of whom who fight for equal rights have their hearts in the right place. Yet I cannot help but point out that, sometimes, they are wasting their efforts by acting on someone who is clearly being racist for other reasons than to be racist. I do not know about you, but I find it quite mentally stimulating and funny how Wizardey dances with fire. To me, having Wizardey in my games is a blessing, and I don't say that about many players. I do agree that we have to follow rules and abide to punishments when appropriate. However, I also believe that banning Wizardey would lower the overall quality of upcoming mafia games.
    holy fuck you're cringe
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    but then people will mistake it meaning as them performing a block and thus saving themselves from any night attacks!!!!


    jk, and if you didn't get it, its referring to a block like physically using a shield
    Thatís some ďI use turn undead to make myself into a skeletonĒ energy
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmw View Post
    -vote Frinckles
    for scum team MVP. I think I was in a better thread position but it was Frinckles' plays that kept things going. Their tie vote D1 kept us in the game and they managed to stay relatively out of danger and utilized a fake neutral claim very well.

    If I could vote an MVP for town as well it'd definitely be Stealthbomber. They had great reads and a really good start on sub-in with a 2/3 solve (and in our night chat considered a possibility that was a 3/3 solve) and was ultimately held back by Clowns' absurd ability to somehow never get lynched.

    Second choice for MVP town vote is MM, who gave town a second chance with a good roleblock and put some good pressure on me.

    gotta sign off now but hope everyone has an amazing rest of their night/day!
    I would've definitely gotten there during d5 so that was a good kill. Just got held back by how inactive some of the town members were.

    -vote jmw
    clear MVP imo

    Not the cleanest win, but a win nonetheless.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 345: Hypixel-SC2Mafia Cross Community Game◄◄

    frinckles if you're town you're voting the wrong guy and clowns dropping a self pres vote is gonna prove that right no- yep
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    quick do something dumb while he's gone

    -vote jmw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    frinckles you've scumread clowns all game why are you suddenly against this elim
    sorry thats a loaded question you dont have to answer it
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    frinckles you've scumread clowns all game why are you suddenly against this elim
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    ►►Re: S-FM 345: Hypixel-SC2Mafia Cross Community Game◄◄

    -vote TheClowns


    Clowns is scum in every single reality I can think of, Jelly is scum in most of them. This feels better to me.
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    if clowns and jelly are scum why do they make a night chat between themselves

    we know for a fact that clowns can make night chats because he made one with martin. did clowns and jelly lie about the chat? if so why have that weird standoffish interaction in day 2 that made them both look like shit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakura1 View Post
    Also @Stealthbomber16 do you want to change to either Jelly or Clowns?
    i will be
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    ►►Re: S-FM 345: Hypixel-SC2Mafia Cross Community Game◄◄

    @Frinckles

    What did you need to "make sure" of when you voted jelly earlier
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    nice fucking spoiler nerd
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    Who the HELL made the chat between Bakura and Frinckles
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcron View Post
    IMO This read list is good and towny

    For the time being I'd have Frinckles as the last town out of the list along with me, but other than that everything looks okay here.
    Why Frinckles town? Frinckles has done nothing but soft an investigative claim and vote low hanging fruit today.
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    Bakuraís push on clowns was not something I was expecting to see today even though it goes along with what I said yesterday to some extent. I need time to think and I donít have any because we had no posts for 12 hours. Yeesh.
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    So the game just got a lot more interesting then.

    Janitor isnít plausible to find anymore. I was planning on claiming here but it appears I donít need to so I wonít.

    Bakura, were you responsible for creating your chat?
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    ►►Re: S-FM 345: Hypixel-SC2Mafia Cross Community Game◄◄

    Hypothetically, people will actually play!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snom_ View Post
    Hypothetically you would be correct.
    Hypothetically would you say that this role would know if they've redirected anyone?
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    ►►Re: S-FM 345: Hypixel-SC2Mafia Cross Community Game◄◄

    Or, hypothetically, you might have one active ability and one passive ability
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snom_ View Post
    I might possibly be a mod poster who redirects non lethal actions. But you didnít here that from me.
    so, hypothetically, you might have two abilities that you can use on the same night?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Who did you give fruit to
    @Marshmallow Marshall
    @Marshmallow Marshall
    @Marshmallow Marshall
    @Marshmallow Marshall
    @Marshmallow Marshall
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snom_ View Post
    Sooo I cant get quotes to work and i dont have the time for it.
    I might possibly be the mod poster
    and i think martin and jmw are town
    ill be back in 3-5 business minuets with more information
    You "might possibly" be the mod poster???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I mean, they didn't admit anything. That being said, they absolutely are scummy, and--

    Okay I just went to check their claim, which I had missed because I am tired. Die already lol
    -vote 10000JellyDoughnuts

    Unconfirmable three shot Victim? That's a little too... uncool for the roles we already know exist, and entirely unconfirmable.

    As for massclaiming, it does look like a good idea, but it's only really useful if we all do it, so we need people (especially people like @Snom_ who haven't really done much) to go on with it.

    Speaking of you, Snom, do you have any reads or anything interesting? Your avatar is beautiful, but that's the only thing going in your favor lmao.
    Who did you give fruit to
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakura1 View Post
    I'll do more stuff later, but a thought just occurred to me:

    Wouldn't it be simpler just to claim what we did N1 instead of our roles?

    Because even if you have some kind of dual-role thing, we know that there was a janitor action N1.
    It makes the whole thing more confirmable that way as well.
    At this point I feel a mass claim is the best course of action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10000JellyDoughnuts View Post
    You also claimed mason, which... last I checked, can't recruit anti-town...?
    Those are some serious straws youíre grasping at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10000JellyDoughnuts View Post
    Cat is out of the bag.

    Town Three-Shot Victim. I can target someone at night, and if they are performing an negative action, it gets redirected to me.

    Targeted SB/Aporia N1
    Targeted Frinckles N3
    Ok so you are not confirmable is what Iím hearing. I canít confirm that.
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    Have you mechanically proven to another player that you canít be the janitor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheClowns View Post
    You, unless those people vouch for your role being not janitor.
    One already has. Scroll up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    I'm not giving you my role at this stage of the game. The only person who needs to know it, knows it. And I'm alive so theyre probably town. Spoiler, it's not Janitor.
    -vote Frinckles


    I think you can respect why I have an issue with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    Ashoka can go over today. I don't care if you say they are architect. I know, I get it but there are legitimate reasons I want them gone if we aren't going for Clowns.

    I'll write another big wall later because I just accidently clicked "cancel" instead of "go advanced."

    The mystery of The Great Shaking Destroyer will remain because nobody gives a shit anyway.
    We know there is a role that mechanically cannot confirm itself in the form of the janitor. Iím gunning for that.

    What is your role, in a completely related question?
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    Anyway, hereís where weíre at so far.
    Clowns canít die today, as much as that pains me, because he canít be janitor.
    MM canít die because heís fruit vendor (theoretically as long as he didnít give fruit to Martin which would make me incredibly suspicious)
    AT canít die because theyíre architect
    Martin and jmw will be able to confirm my role as not janitor today as my actions directly confirmed to both of them that I am not janitor.
    Somebody is the mod poster, which isnít janitor.
    Somebody will be able to confirm Martin further today by confirming his investigative result

    So we need claims from Bakura, Frinckles, Snom and Jelly. Am I missing anybody?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashoka Tano View Post
    how was my night chat
    Pretty nice
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    Fuck that was terrible diction.

    We need to mass claim today. We know thereís a janitor and we have a large swath of roles that are confirmable as ďnot the janitorĒ. We should be able to narrow this down pretty succinctly.
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    We need to trigger a mass role claim to figure out who the janitor is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakura1 View Post
    Y'all are trying too hard with fancy VCA and whatnot

    take a step back and consider the fact that I've played many games with Oliver

    and I mean just from this game, it's obvious that he'd say it

    And the literal only other person I can see saying it is Clowns

    Though I will stake my pride as a townie that it is Oliver and that you guys should trust me and lynch him today

    But even if Oliver doesn't flip scum we basically have 1 confscum either way
    and you don't think clowns is the elim today?
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    How are we still arguing about this will
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    Also, about the day 2 elim event, I fully believe that was the direct result of ewian's first post of the game.
    Quote Originally Posted by ewianking View Post
    ďThere is no instance of a nation benefiting from prolonged warfareĒ - Sun Tzu ďArt of WarĒ
    Not that it matters literally at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I mean, look at this:

    This is very far from an interaction that clears Jelly from being teamed with Frinckles lmao. If anything, it looks more like theater than anything, especially the "am I being pranked" part; Jelly doesn't feel very threatened here.
    Ho-ho-ho, my silly little shortsighted Marshall! You forgot something: the day 2 mid-day elim scramble.
    10000JellyDoughnuts (4 [L-3]):
    Mreevee, jmw, Frinckles, MartinGG99

    Marshmallow Marshall (1 [L-6]):
    oliverz144

    oliverz144 (1 [L-6]):
    Marshmallow Marshall

    Frinckles WAS on the Jelly wagon, and Clowns intended to vote on it but misspelled the name! Why would two scum be voting to turbo their teammate here?
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    If you go by VCA only like that, I actually think Bakura is more likely to be 3rd scum than Jelly. IímÖ not convinced thatís the case, but it seems very reasonable now that itís occurred to me.
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    I donít think Jelly is with Frinckles/Clowns here because they voted tried to turbo him D2 IIRC @Marshmallow Marshall
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakura1 View Post
    So what is your read on me now?
    I think youíre a town lean. At this point thatís mostly gut. But I trust my gut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakura1 View Post
    Oh yeah also


    you never explained what those reasons were @10000JellyDoughnuts

    And @Stealthbomber16 you never responded to this:
    Oh shit my bad

    I had thought you had a townread on oli that developed out of your scumread. That was incorrect. I donít know who I was thinking of.
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    Do I think that ewian's last will is completely fake? No. Do I think that it's worth spending the entirety of day 3 analyzing and elimming from? Fuck no, that's stupid. We have two and a half days of content to review to make our decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    So ill just keep short and simple because I'm formatting this on the phone.

    DW was scummy. Scummy people get pushed off cliffs. I thought so, Jelly thought so, your slot thought so. Even Eevee/MM(*?) believed so. Clowns was virtually non-existent D1 besides a shitty reads list that I wrote off as trolling/"leave me alone until D2". It could have been Tauntshaman or Drizzt(snom) in that position and I would have done the exact same thing. Hell we even talked about the issues that always happen when we lynch afk/troll slots so why the fuck would I vote with my fos (Ewian) on one? Ewian was scum btw.
    My slot did believe so. I can understand why DW got elimed in a vacuum. I do not understand why DW was elimed over Clowns. But I am always a strong proponent for removing low-activity players on day 1 over "information lynches".

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    Swap Jelly out for clowns in your post. Swap me out for MM. Swap me out for yourself etc.
    Key differences here. You have actively voted for Jelly. You have been a strong vocal proponent for eliming Jelly this game. You have not been the same for Clowns.

    I remember giving MM a pass for something during my backread, but I don't remember what it is and you deserve a better answer than "something" so I'll try to go back and find it before EoD.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    The thing that feels whack about this is that nearly everything in your post could apply to multiple players, including yourself. Like the votes, or the lack of interaction, or the lack of reciprocated reads etc.
    Yeah, you could try to argue that I'm on a scum team with Jelly. I think the thing that makes that argument worse than mine is that I have no fucking idea what Jelly is right now. I don't see anything immediately actionably scummy from him, whereas when I reviewed Clowns they had a few posts that I actively disliked. I don't have a scumread on Jelly that I'm idling on, whereas you do have a self confessed scumread on Clowns that you have not pursued once this game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    If you want to yeet clowns, go for it. It's D3 and I got one scum lynched so far so i know we're not in bad shape. But you need to make a case against Clowns for that and if you can't (and you're actually town) then you need to be looking at what we actually can work with aka, Ewian's LW.
    Has anybody here considered that the information in ewian's last will might not be reliable, complete or actionable? He's scum. He gets no benefit for aiding town. I could see myself putting a bunch of fake shit in my will to troll town if I were a neutral. I feel like that's something I have already done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snom_ View Post
    Classes suck what did I miss?
    Joe is scum
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    That is all of my cards on the table. I have no further plans or developments reserved for today.
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    I entered day 3 with my intentions as the following:

    AT: Place strong pressure on Ashoka, force players to acknowledge the slot. Players that show similar thought processes are probably town. Also force Ashoka to respond to me, which worked out in their favor as I'm not as certain they're scum as I was at the start of the day.

    Clowns: Place a vote on Clowns. Force clowns to respond to me. Get clowns to post a reads list to see how their relation to Frinckles has developed. I actually attempted to bait Clowns into justifying their read on Frinckles, but they didn't, so oh well. I fully intend to be voting here at the end of the day.

    Frinckles: Give Frinckles time to acknowledge clowns of his own free will. If he doesn't, then that's further proof for me. The longer I waited to point this out, the stronger the point was.
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