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  2. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Shocking bread Fact.

    Thread Author:SuperJack

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    ►►Re: Shocking bread Fact.◄◄

    nah ozy and sj are both fake news liars

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium_carbonate

    "Calcium carbonate in the form of chalk has traditionally been a major component of blackboard chalk. However, modern manufactured chalk is mostly gypsum, hydrated calcium sulfate CaSO4∑2H2O"

    "Dark green vegetables such as broccoli and kale contain dietarily significant amounts of calcium carbonate"

    it's a chemical in all kinds of stuff and 'blackboard chalk' (an amalgamation of stuff) is a separate thing from 'chalk' (a rock composed mainly of calcium carbonate... not unlike how rock salt is a rock composed mainly of sodium chloride)


    in other news, the human body needs to eat a certain amount of iron or else you get https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anemia
  3. Forum:Mafia 2.0 Public Test

    Thread:Mothership Execution

    Thread Author:OzyWho

    Post Author:aamirus

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    [Miscellaneous Feedback] ►►Re: Mothership Execution◄◄

    With the 500 points thing the execution should probably just require a single more specific phrase. Or hell maybe he could turn executions into a button choice idk
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    [Setup] ►►Re: LWs and PMs disable themselves during save setup?◄◄

    i dunno if frinckles fixed this but i remember there was an issue that clicking the arrows to change save slots didn't load (visually) the new save's settings for the stuff in the box up top (day length, lws, trial type, etc.)
  5. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Fraud

    Thread Author:SuperJack

    Post Author:aamirus

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    ►►Re: Fraud◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    Some Wankers have stolen £4000 from my credit card.

    Very unhappy with my Credit card company, as it was completly our of my normal shopping habbits, bought from the other side of the country for amount way above my normal spendingh between £200-£500 ofer a dozen transactions.

    Shit is Obvious fraud and I can't believe my Credit card company never flagged any of it.
    That sucks but were you at least able to get them to charge it back?
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    [Mechanics / Gameplay] ►►Re: Petition : Restore Option for Executioner Night Immunity◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Ni for Survive to end is a good solution, I always have preferred an exe having to survive so they don't drop the dumb d2 claims and actually play.

    But baking it in the role and not giving the option is not a good idea, maybe include that in the default setups, but we still need the NI option back.
    fair, but do u agree that NI + does not need to survive til end + target is not always town = way too powerful role that needs some kind of nerf?
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    ►►Re: Official Thank You Thread For Mafia 2.0◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Drizzt View Post
    MrMostache, SuperJack, Grakylan, Mando, Auwt, aamirus, miasonia, JagdPanther <----------- All the people who viewed the thread but didn't comment.
    I wanted to smack Exeter for putting his bug question in a thank you thread but then decided to leave it be
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    [Mechanics / Gameplay] ►►Re: Petition : Restore Option for Executioner Night Immunity◄◄

    Executioner is by far the easiest role to win as. It arguably should have ďneeds to survive til end onĒ along with this change to make it have a normal win rate. I get people like being the invulnerable gets to pick who wins person but itís objectively dumb lol
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    [Miscellaneous Feedback] ►►Re: Remove Admin Ability to Broadcast Messages◄◄

    Frinckles uses it when heís testing new patches/bugs
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    ►►Re: imma about to transfer bank files.◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by moneymoney View Post
    1. am i allowed to do this. i kno some ppl got banned for transferring bank files but i do not want to lose all my progress. Plus i got a new computer so that's I want to transer.

    2. literally seems simple enough but i do not want to corrupt the files. I found a 3 step process thru google search but is that the right way.

    This is an0n btw.

    thanks for the replies
    yea the guide is here
    https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...your-bank-file
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    ►►Re: who is gunna update the sc2 mafia achievement wiki?◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by moneymoney View Post
    It would be a good thing to do.

    For all us tryhards.
    we will update our local wiki but unfortunately most google results take you to the Wikia wiki which nobody has control over anymore
  12. Forum:News

    Thread:Promotions

    Thread Author:aamirus

    Post Author:aamirus

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    ►►Re: Promotions◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    Btw, why is only 1 of them red?
    frinckles wants to flash his developer color to show you who is boss
  13. Forum:News

    Thread:Promotions

    Thread Author:aamirus

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    ►►Re: Promotions◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Congratz!

    I liked it better when Lag had their blue-magenta instead of their now deathly-looking red
    The red is there to properly represent the corrupt villainy of us badmins
  14. Forum:News

    Thread:Promotions

    Thread Author:aamirus

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    ►►Promotions◄◄

    Congrats to @Frinckles and @Lag for promotions to Admin.

    Also with the release of mafia 2, we now only need 1 lobby status channel in the discord so i killed the other one!
  15. Forum:Research and Development

    Thread:Remove JUDGE night chat?

    Thread Author:Arrow

    Post Author:aamirus

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    [Role Change] ►►Re: Remove JUDGE night chat?◄◄

    yea the night chat is really not necessary for judge. Its ability is already 1 of the most powerful in the game. It's not much of a nerf either, as the evils really only 50/50 listen to what judge tells them to do. The only time it's really useful is near the end of the game when you can open-claim without fear of getting lynched. Which you could just do during the day like other neuts anyway.
  16. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:SC2Mafia MVP Contest: 2022 Edition

    Thread Author:aamirus

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    Sticky: ►►Re: SC2Mafia MVP Contest: 2022 Edition◄◄

    The 2021 contest is closed for judging but Iíve lazily copy pasted that thread here in-case people want to start posting 2022 replays
  17. Forum:News

    Thread:1/1/2021: Mafia 2.0 Released!

    Thread Author:Arrow

    Post Author:aamirus

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  18. ►►Re: Remove -prefer -blacklist, mafia2 vest hogging up all the "fun" roles◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    That's good, that's what I originally thought.

    But it introduces another problem, which is that if I prefer a role and I don't get it, I can reasonably assume with high probability that the role isn't in the game.

    Take for example a judge/crier question. Say I ended up rolling town but preferred judge, unless someone else preferred judge, the guy speaking at night is crier.

    It gives veteran players WAY TOO MUCH INFORMATION from outside the game itself.
    No you just donít get how it works, maybe if Frinckles copy pasted the code it would be more clear. Prefer is a fairly weak thing, blacklist is far stronger
  19. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:SC2Mafia MVP Contest: 2021 Edition

    Thread Author:aamirus

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    Sticky: ►►Re: SC2Mafia MVP Contest: 2021 Edition◄◄

    Last chance to submit entries for this year! Contest will close jan 1 12am Eastern
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    ►►Re: PQHack: 1-S2-1-515276◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    Does appear to be the case. Uploading an attempted fix now.
    @PQRnHack Please respond back here if you are/aren't able to enter games now.
    and to clarify he updated the 1.0 map but we haven't updated the 2.0 map yet, but he confirmed 150k points was the established ceiling so i think that was the cause of all your issues
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    ►►Re: PQHack: 1-S2-1-515276◄◄

    @Arrow 150k points is ceiling?
  22. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:This is afk.

    Thread Author:mafiamafia

    Post Author:aamirus

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    ►►Re: This is afk.◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by mafiamafia View Post
    *2.0 BETA SOUND SETTINGS PROBLEMS*

    Originally and always:

    - All music was under "Music".
    - Birds, crickets, wind, rustling, rain and storm sounds were all under "Sound Effects" or "Voices" (I've always had both those on, so I'm not sure which).

    Now:

    - Birds are under "Ambient Sounds" along with beeping, creaking, static, and machine sounds.
    - Other layers of music are under "Voices" along with wind, rustling, crickets, rain, and storm.

    I've always played this game with Music OFF and Ambient Sounds OFF (in both melee and mafia).

    That always REMOVED music, beeping, creaking, static, and machine sounds while KEEPING birds, wind, rustling, crickets, rain, and storm sounds.

    Then I'd have my personal music on in the background (like many gamers).

    And life was good in mafia for years off and on.

    Now I play with all sc2 sound off. And that sucks. But it's better than any other current combination after more than a couple matches.

    Life is not good in 2.0 mafia.
    i think he put the music there on purpose cuz everyone has music off. But you are right that he should ultimately make it up to the player and not force it. But i think it was nice to let us see the new stuff at least.
  23. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:This is afk.

    Thread Author:mafiamafia

    Post Author:aamirus

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    ►►Re: This is afk.◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by mafiamafia View Post
    *2.0 BETA CAN'T START GLITCH*

    - Starting a custom save for me in all three save slots was prevented by this: "Elector redirection quantity is invalid."

    Spent about an hour making these 3 saves, after I was told it works now.

    I then passed to Wizardey who was able to host a custom save from 1.0.

    All info is shown in the first 2 minutes of the attached replay.

    Name: -Mafia 20 beta- (35).SC2Replay
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    yea elector was disabled but the default custom save has invalid elector settings. he will fix this but for now, copy his standard 8331 save and edit from there and you'll be fine.

    I know it takes long to make your custom saves but you should be able to quickly re-copy the settings once you already know them. Not ideal obviously but not the same as re-making ur saves from scratch.
  24. Forum:News

    Thread:Mafia 2.0 Release Date

    Thread Author:aamirus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Froot vendor?
    rip fruity boy
  25. Forum:News

    Thread:Mafia 2.0 Release Date

    Thread Author:aamirus

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    Sticky: ►►Mafia 2.0 Release Date◄◄

    Hi guys. @Frinckles has officially set
    January 1st (1/1/2022) as the release date for mafia 2.0!



    This means it will be getting patched over the existing 1.0 map. Your points, achievements, etc. will stay intact.
    If you want to try it early, the -mafia 2.0 beta- map has already been getting more lobbies the past few days than the 1.0 map. You can subscribe via our discord rules channel to get notifications when frinckles is running tests.
    Here is a summary of a lot of the changes but not all.



    For example, it's missing the recent holiday update which added another new role (Street Racer/commuter), holiday music, bonus points, a pretty winter map, and other cool stuff. Even if you previously participated in 2.0 testing, I would highly recommend checking it out. A lot has changed and it's been very well-received.



    Also, frinckles has been too busy pushing changes to the map and keeps putting off setting up his donation rewards but I want to shill out his donation link anyway for anybody that just wants to show him some love.
  26. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:Melifera: 1-S2-11926322

    Thread Author:PQRnHack

    Post Author:aamirus

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    {Permanently Banned} ►►Re: Melifera: 1-S2-11926322◄◄

    melifera/painfully evil would be drapoel (banned)
  27. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:SC2Mafia MVP Contest: 2021 Edition

    Thread Author:aamirus

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    Sticky: ►►Re: SC2Mafia MVP Contest: 2021 Edition◄◄

    BUMP. 2021 is coming to a close get your submissions in for mvp!
  28. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:Bouncy: 1-S2-1-10800773

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    {Watch List} ►►Re: placeholder◄◄

    thanks arrow and lol your summary is a fun read
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    Thread:Bouncy: 1-S2-1-10800773

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    {Watch List} ►►Bouncy: 1-S2-1-10800773◄◄

    gonna fix this when i finish playing

    4 the godfather rage throws when he gets lynched. Outs both teammates and their roles.Name: 4 gf throw.SC2Replay
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  30. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Intentionally rigged roles in saves

    Thread Author:ikarusdk

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    ►►Re: Intentionally rigged roles in saves◄◄

    it's in a grey area. Griefing charge is sometimes applied for repeatedly hosting egregiously troll saves. What counts as an egregiously troll save is essentially based on the community consensus opinion. People trying to host unlimited alert vet is pretty rare so I'm not sure if there is much opinion to look back on. I'd personally agree that it's stupidly OP and should probably be removed as an option in 2.0.
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    {Approved} ►►Re: Skrundead : 1-S2-1-5124355◄◄

    the database highest was from april 2020 with 2489 points

    There is also a report thread from 2017 i pulled the replay from and you have just 2002 points there

    So i guess you were way off?


    Approved for: 2489 points, 38 wins, and 89 games played.
    To complete your restore you'll need to meet up with an admin in-game. Your best bet is to use the @point restore tag on our discord until you find one.
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    ►►Re: New achievement idea: Happily Ever After for Evil!◄◄

    Well I feel like itís pretty common for the winning evil to have killed all the town. I mean thereís at most 1 town alive if evil wins.

    The analogue to existing happily ever after would be if 0 evils died, but this is generally impossible since some evils cannot win together.

    The two evils you would normally see in teams, mafia and cult, already have achievements for keeping the whole team alive til the end of the game.

    Sooo, idk?
  33. Forum:Mafia 2.0 Public Test

    Thread:2.0 TLDR

    Thread Author:Frinckles

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    Sticky: ►►Re: 2.0 TLDR◄◄

    Awesome!
  34. ►►Re: State of American Employment, benefits and lifestyle◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    Being able to work one job and afford to pay your bills?
    Not having your savings destroyed if you get ill?
    Not getting fucked over and fired just because no reason needed.?
    Being able to have a Job that you don't have to then still get benefits to top it up?
    nope sorry. Like I said about 40% don't want any such changes unless those bad things happen to them first - then suddenly they will hop on board lol
  35. ►►Re: State of American Employment, benefits and lifestyle◄◄

    About 40% of Americans would call you a communist for even suggesting more benefits, protection, or help.

    So I dunno the trend youíre seeing, could you elaborate what benefits you think Americans can agree they want?
  36. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Selective Punishment

    Thread Author:Veliaire

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    ►►Re: Selective Punishment◄◄

    Ok I see the issue. Sarcasm doesnít come across well through text and you donít know mostache well. Thatís his standard response to someone attacking him for no reason - sarcastically agree. Maybe thatís not the most professional thing to do but this is a volunteer position and itís extremely draining dealing with baseless nonsensical mod abuse accusations.

    Please go back and re-read what he said to you on discord. I donít see anything wrong with it at all. You clearly had some high emotions going and didnít process half of what he said. Just search from mr mostache in discord.
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    {Permanently Banned} ►►Re: WEWUZKANGZ 1-S2-1-10371102◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Veliaire View Post
    The mod was not unfamiliar with the person because he banned him before and said, and I quote "This is a known guy from some time ago." -- but thank you for doing what he was unwilling to do and getting rid of the known racist who literally uses the n word in every game he's in, that I have personally seen him do in games where that mod was present on several occasions.

    https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...-S2-1-10371102
    He recommended BLx2 for that account whereas months later a different mod recommended permaban for the OTHER wewerekings account. So you see that mostache likely didnít know about the wewerekings account being permaed, only the weWuzKangz account getting BLx2. Not really sure whatís confusing about this for you
  38. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Same Name Steve cheat..

    Thread Author:LearnFromThis

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    ►►Re: Same Name Steve cheat..◄◄

    it has come up several times. Large full-community involved threads. Can't think of the search terms right now but general consensus has been to leave it as is. And that if you don't want it you can disable names in your save.

    If the players are blatantly going against their win-condition/confirmable info to help their friends then you can report that.

    Generally it's a double-edged sword though - sure some people might be more likely to protect you cuz they like you out of game - but some others might be more likely to try to kill you cuz they dislike you. So i don't really agree it's a general advantage. I do agree with your sentiment that it goes against the general idea of the game but it's also like - how would you even enforce that, really? It's not just names - there are people you can immediately identify who they are just based on how they type and it's not like there would be any way to police that. The community being small and tight-nit is just naturally going to lead to players recognizing each other.
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    {Permanently Banned} ►►Re: WEWUZKANGZ 1-S2-1-10371102◄◄

    Thank you for your report. It's a good catch that wewuzkangz who has seen BLx2 time himself is the same account as permabanned wewerekings. This was not previously caught as we primarily check by bnet ID or exact name so there isn't really an easy way for an unfamiliar mod to catch an account with a similar but different name and different bnet ID.

    WeWuzKangz: 1-S2-1-10371102
    Rec: Permaban

    Per: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...ht=WeWereKings
  40. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Selective Punishment

    Thread Author:Veliaire

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    ►►Re: Selective Punishment◄◄

    generally you process the report looking at what was reported and if you see something else blatantly obvious to add then you add it.

    Bank hacking and role quits for example are easy to see within 2 seconds of looking at the report so they will generally get added.
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    ►►Re: Who was the most evil person?◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by HentaiManOfPeacesGhost View Post
    Why the fuck would you volunteer to stand at the lever? What - is this like an office potluck party or some shit? "Oh, Dale said he'd bring in chicken pot pie, Ahmed for shawarmas, and Samantha will make cheesecake! Lastly, Cindy volunteered to be the person who decides the lives of the best cook or the remaining subpar cooks!"

    If you were forced against your will, the onus of evil is the person who created the scenario in the first place. Go watch Squid Game if you haven't already; this is the exact same scenario the main character finds himself in.
    i'm bridging to a government leader, who essentially volunteers to put themselves in many repeated trolly-ish scenarios. If, given all the info I have, I genuinely believe my choice will harm the fewest number of people, am I evil? Even if in later hindsight you can see that a different choice would have harmed fewer?
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    ►►Re: Who was the most evil person?◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by HentaiManOfPeacesGhost View Post
    This is an easy problem. Save the most lives always even if that 1 or 10 people you kill are your family and friends.

    There's also options C and D, which is to divert the track so that 1 or 10 people and either:
    • Option C: kill yourself as atonement for having to make this choice. So I'd flick the switch and lay down with the other or 9 other people to be killed. If this cannot be physically done, I'd kill myself afterwards.
    • Option D: survive and fulfill on the wishes of the person(s) who did die so that you will earn their posthumous forgiveness and to find salvation for one's self.


    In such a scenario, I'd go with Option C or D depending on the guilt of this action.

    If you were forced in such a scenario, you would not be evil because again you have no intention to kill these people originally.

    Again, this same logic applies to the Hitler-Mao-Stalin order. Mao didn't want to cause a famine and kill his people, but unfortunately he stopped it too late - 1959-1961 were some of the worst famines (not to mention the 550k people who disagreed with him about this plan that he ordered killed) and that's what makes him evil. Because he didn't feel immediate remorse or the need to correct his mistakes quickly in pursuit of his grander plan and prolonging this suffering.

    Stalin is lower than Mao for lower deaths, but similar situation based on the ambiguity of reception. However, he tried to stop journalists and other foreign powers from discovering this famine and rejected foreign food aid. Again, trying to pursue his plans of industrialization at the cost of human suffering and lives makes him evil.
    Ok, what if you volunteered to be the person standing at the lever? You still didn't put the people on the tracks or start the trolley but you chose to be the decision maker. Still not evil as long as you always kill the smaller number of people?
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    ►►Re: Who was the most evil person?◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by HentaiManOfPeacesGhost View Post
    LMAO, what a piece of fucking work. 20-30 yo Chinese man living in a Western country enjoying Japanese power rape fantasy cartoons and justifying antisemitism through current events of a very complex geopolitical situation in the Middle East originally caused by British border divides. You quenched from that 4chan /pol/ kool-aid, Paopan?

    I find it hilarious that if you read the literature, 1% of the German population were Jewish and they had a high-range estimated wealth of 1.6% of the entire country. Real fucking smart on Hitler's behalf, even though he campaigned hard as fuck to scapegoat them. You do realize most of his policies for the nation were good because he privatized many of their national companies, high investment in public infrastructure, and stopped paying their burdenous reparations, right?

    Again, I have to give admins credit here again for deleting such disgusting vitriol and nonsense. You should be ashamed of yourself, Paopan.



    Yeah, and he was wrong from an ethical standpoint. It doesn't matter if what Hitler believed (or convinced himself through self-reinforcement), it violates Aristotelian ethics. That is that people should strive to achieve a virtuous character. Again, any sort of benefits their society benefited from (1.6% of the country's Jewish wealth) is completely negated or grossly overcompensated by the horrific war crimes and acts they performed on this vulnerable population based solely on genetics - something in most cases NO ONE has any control over.



    You guys are overthinking this bullshit and that's why this topic is taking so long and hard to discuss. It's also not helped by other trolls and devil's advocates. This definition is based on my ethics class of theoretical and tacit knowledge considering the ethics of utilitarianism, Aristotle ethics, Kant's ethics, good will (intention), impact, and fairness. You're welcome to create your own criteria for measuring evilness if you think there's a better one out there. But I am confident in my criteria.

    A child is developing their identity and their viewpoints of life. Therefore, until they're in their late teens (16-17), I'd discount whatever things they say or actions they take because they're not fully conscious of their actions. In your example, a child that launches 1000 nuclear warheads, while causing massive damage and casualties, therefore cannot be held responsible to the same degree a fully developed adult. Yeah, throw them in juvie or rehab to reform them into proper citizens, but no they would not be considered evil to me unless they were like 16-17 and they were completely aware of the consequences of their actions.
    A full-grown adult presses a button, having no clue what the button does. The button push causes millions of people to die. Is this person evil?


    Edit: added
    The trolly problem fits perfectly here as well. A trolly is speeding down a track. Three people are trapped on the track and will die if you do nothing. There is a lever next to you and if you pull it, the trolly will be diverted, saving their lives. However, there is 1 person trapped on the track in the other direction.
    So if you don't pull the lever, 3 people will die and 1 will survive.
    If you do pull the lever, only 1 will die and 3 will survive. But you will have actively chosen to kill that one person.
    Of course, doing nothing is effectively the same as choosing to kill those 3 people.

    So, are you evil no matter what in this situation? You didn't ask to be put into that spot but no matter what you do, someone will be dead based on your decision.


    Now let's expand this to macro scale to compete with a murderer. Say there are 10 people on the left track and 30 people on the right track. You choose to pull the lever, killing 10 to save 30. Are you more evil than someone who knows what they are doing is wrong and commits a pre-meditated murder? Personally I would say the pre-meditated murder is worse.
  44. {Ban List} ►►Re: witchunting + leave train pineapple + frankzappa 1-5314859◄◄

    ID Verification:
    frankzappa: 1-S2-1-5314859 Correct

    Pineapple: 1-S2-1-11867044

    Summary
    Pineapple spams a ton during setup phase and spams CHOOO and remake and then leaves the game.

    Frankzappa spams racism and offensive language throughout the game very similarly to in the previous reports (eg nigger, faggot, muslim dog, etc.), also abusing color chat/html to make some of his offensive messages more visible. He also troll claims jailor when he is vet to cause further confusion in the town and begs to be killed by evils once both his alerts are used up and intaro is dead. It seems he is only joining games to troll and kill intaro.

    Player Offenses
    Pineapple: Leavetrain

    Frankzappa: Griefing (Spam+Racism)

    Previous Offenses
    Pineapple: none

    FrankZappa : Leavetrain WLx2 - August
    Earlier:
    Griefing (Spam+Racism)
    Role-Quitting Evidence
    Other (Racism)
    Pending Evidence (Other)
    Other (Additional Information)
    Gamethrowing
    Griefing


    Recommended Action
    Pineapple: WL X4 - while this is a first offense for this account, he has a new ID and just spams FUCK and to leave train without any stated reason. Likely a smurf troll.

    Frankzappa: Frank has received several different watch lists for the same crime already. In the most recent griefing case Auwt wrote that one last warning was fair. https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...hlight=5314859
    Hence considering the WLs are clearly being ignored I would recommend BLx2.

    Additional Notes

    Thanks for your report!
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    {Watch List} ►►Re: Toast 1-s2-1-6031826◄◄

    Maybe a more appropriate crime here would be griefing rather than gamethrowing.

    D4 a lookout has revealed 13 and 15 as the godfather and janitor, last 2 remaining non-town.

    Toast jails 13. 13 claims janitor in jail, fully expecting to die as he should. Toast does not execute.
    Vig tries to shoot 13 as well finding him NI.

    D5 vig notes 13 was NI. Toast uses the N word and is clearly upset that he didn't shoot 15 instead. States he can do whatever he wants.
    13 (godfather) is lynched.

    D6 with 4 people alive, 3 town 1 mafia, 3 votes are needed to put 15 up. Toast refuses to vote. He jails 15.

    N6 he does not execute 15.

    D7 toast again refuses to vote 15. Eventually the townies get sick of it and put him up. Toast confirms he was just wasting time to troll and encourages them to lynch him or quit. He is guiltied resulting in the rest of town leaving the game and mafia winning.


    Between the trolling to the point of the game being ruined and the racism and other offensive spam this easily fits the bill for griefing. The punishment WLx2 is the same for gamethrowing so no change is needed here.



    1 did reactionarily throw by voting guilty on Toast, but generally when another offense has already been committed other people aren't going to be punished for their reactions.
  46. {Watch List} ►►Re: SevenForce 1-11986319; CorvoAttano 2-95833; Player 1-515276; JustinMills 1-10835855◄◄

    Appeals both denied.

    Corvo spams racism and all kinds of nasty stuff all game not one time in a pm as he has claimed. Corvo is also just mistaken in that intaro was not banned or evading a ban.

    Player along with others is trying to get intaro up on the stand because they don't like him. He makes a fake sheriff claim against intaro first, then on the following day when intaro is confirmed veteran he makes another fake claim as investigator. Fake claims are not illegal in all cases but when you're clearly just doing it to grief and ruin the game then... yea.
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    ►►Re: I don't like this new policy change tbh◄◄

    oberon was infracted on 3 posts for personal attacks, oops was infracted on 1 post for pure trolling. I did not see anything from rumox
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    ►►Re: I don't like this new policy change tbh◄◄

    okay, infractions given and thread re-opened. Good call ozy.
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    ►►Re: Who was the most evil person?◄◄

    okay, thread re-opened since people want to try to stay on topic.

    however if you just want to talk about the subjective/objectivity of morality you can use ozy's thread https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...ctive-morality
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    ►►Re: Who was the most evil person?◄◄

    thread not remotely on topic and just name-calling and trolling. Sorry Closed.
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