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    [Restoration Request] ►►Re: Music Point Resotration Request◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    We only have a very limited bank for that ID (1000 points), so you might want to go on the discord and see if anyone remembers you.
    I know Innovation (Music) from one FM game they tried, and have a general impression of who they are, so I'm going to lean in a bit on this one though I have never played with them in arcade personally.

    Of note is that they've made a similar point restore request back in 2023.

    I would say the 20k is probably exaggerated a mild bit due to:
    • The previously requested amount was 10k-20k, and later in the thread mentions point betting.
    • In the time since the previous request, the "arcade lobby status" has 247 results of them (Music#674)
    • Assuming the previous request wasn't fulfilled (or that they didn't recover a bank) getting 20k with just 247 games is relatively absurd based on some of the recent point restores I've looked at -- most of them seemed lower in the 20-30s though one was as high as 66 points per game played.

    I don't think the exaggeration is all that intentional though, based on my impressions of them and the fact that they didn't really get confrontational with the previous point restore request (which a deceptive/manipulative requester might do). Additionally, prior to the previous request, they had around 200 more games or lobbies recorded. If I had to guess, maybe they had points in the lower 10k range? Variability with this estimate could be wild though if they have a habit of doing bets or if they somehow got a recovery of previously-lost points. I don't doubt that they've lost points, possibly even twice, but I'm not so sure as to the exact amount they've lost due to circumstances such as loss of bank file. I vouch on this and hope that, pending input from players who have actually played with Music in-game, maybe we can achieve some sort of compensation for them even if it is not the actual amount that was lost.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 356: Divide and Conquer◄◄

    In order to avoid conflict with KRC, and consideration of this game's maximum possible length, this signup is being postponed until KRC has concluded.

    For excessive clarity's sake, when signups for this game resume it will be assumed that none of you will remain as signs (or reserves) unless you explicitly sign again when signups resume.

    @Marshmallow Marshall
    @powerofdeath
    @ikarusdk
    @JeremiahSablan
    @Numbertwo
    @Varcron
    @Renegade

    @oliverz144
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    ►►Re: S-FM 356: Timelines Mafia (downsized 9p)◄◄

    @oliverz144 @powerofdeath @Luka @Marshmallow Marshall @bakermir (reserve)

    Hey all, not many people are signing up for this and while I normally would've switched to some other game to see if it would garner more interest, truth is I can't really afford to be running anything during the last week of January (the start of a busy semester) -- which is what its looking like to be even if I got the game filled. Downsizing is not feasible without obliterating the setup's unique characteristics.

    So I'll be looking for another host in a meantime. This signups is discontinued. I have one person noted as possibly hosting in January, but otherwise I don't have anyone else on my list and more would be welcome.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 356: Timelines Mafia (downsized 9p)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by powerofdeath View Post
    /in (only if it start after christmas)
    not planning to anyways, decent chance this game fills towards very end of the month / first week of January or something like that
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    ►►Discontinued: Timelines Mafia◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Timelines Mafia
    inspired by Edge of Tomorrow

    This is a downsized version of a 15-player setup I made on another community. It can be easily adjusted for 10 players by giving town an extra Good Timeline and the Evil Timelines a single-use extra kill ability. If for some reason there is enough demand, I can also make it the original 15 player version (which you can find via this link if interested).


    6 Good Timeline
    You are a Good Timeline! You currently do not have any powers. However, if the Prime Timeline is killed or eliminated, you have a chance of obtaining their role!

    You, along with the Prime Timeline, must defeat all Evil Timelines.
    1 Prime Timeline
    You are the Prime Timeline!

    If you die your role will be immediately passed onto another Good Timeline, unless your role would exist in a F5/F3 scenario.

    Your role has the following abilities, depending on the number of times your role has been passed onto a Good Timeline.

    Deaths during the day do not count.

    Initial abilities: Tracker which also automatically bodyguards whoever you track (if they are attacked, you are attacked instead).
    One death: 1x Super-tracker without bodyguard (ignores ninja effect, charge is consumed only if you survive while using it)

    You, along with the Good Timelines, must defeat all Evil Timelines.
    2 Evil Timeline
    You are an Evil Timeline! You have no individual powers, but your Evil Timeline faction does!

    Your faction has the following abilities:
    1x Ninja (make self untrackable, except for super-tracker)
    2x Role-cop (does not detect who has the new Prime Timeline role if the previous one was killed the night of the check)

    These factional abilities may be used alongside the factional kill, both of which are assigned to Evil Timelines. However, each Evil Timeline is limited to doing two things (both abilities and kills) at a time, unless you are the last surviving Evil Timeline. In which case, you may use everything simultaneously if you wish.

    You also have a permanent chat with your allies:

    You, along with your faction, must control at least half of the votes in the game or have nothing preventing that from happening.
    A discord hub will be used for enhanced player/host communication and discord's useful time-stamp feature. If I don't know your discord account, I will not count your /in or /sign. My discord username is the same as it is here, and we have a community discord here.

    Elimination is majority + plurality, except for Day 1 where it will simply be plurality.

    Day 1 is extended to 72 hours, as per suggestions/discussions in our super-duper-secret FM staff chat. Otherwise phases are 48/24.

    SoD/EoD of 7 pm. Put this " < t:1702598400:F > " into a discord message, remove the spaces between the < and >, then send it somewhere to get a timestamp in your timezone. That shows the correct hour of the SoD/EoD for you.

    Ties decided by RNGjesus except where mafia winning the tie wins the game.

    Minimum post requirement of 10 per day phase. They can be anything. Only one warning of this, then replacement. Modkill if no replacement immediately available. Prods outside of these will be at my discretion. Having less than five posts by EoD will bypass the warning and will be met with immediate replacement/modkill.


    Signups were discontinued.

    Signs

    1. Oliverz144
    2. powerofdeath
    3. luka
    4. Marshmallow Marshall
    5.
    6.
    7.
    8.
    9.

    Reserves

    1. bakermir
    2.
    3.
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    ►►Re: S-FM (Downsized) Timelines Mafia (9p)◄◄

    Exercising Admin Ab00se to put this into approved myself.
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    ►►S-FM (Downsized) Timelines Mafia (9p)◄◄

    Timelines Mafia
    inspired by Edge of Tomorrow

    This is a downsized version of a 15-player setup I made on another community. It can be easily adjusted for 10 players by giving town an extra Good Timeline and the Evil Timelines a single-use extra kill ability. If for some reason there is enough demand, I can also make it the original 15 player version (which you can find via this link if interested).


    6 Good Timeline
    You are a Good Timeline! You currently do not have any powers. However, if the Prime Timeline is killed or eliminated, you have a chance of obtaining their role!

    You, along with the Prime Timeline, must defeat all Evil Timelines.
    1 Prime Timeline
    You are the Prime Timeline!

    If you die your role will be immediately passed onto another Good Timeline, unless your role would exist in a F5/F3 scenario.

    Your role has the following abilities, depending on the number of times your role has been passed onto a Good Timeline.

    Deaths during the day do not count.

    Initial abilities: Tracker which also automatically bodyguards whoever you track (if they are attacked, you are attacked instead).
    One death: 1x Super-tracker without bodyguard (ignores ninja effect, charge is consumed only if you survive while using it)

    You, along with the Good Timelines, must defeat all Evil Timelines.
    2 Evil Timeline
    You are an Evil Timeline! You have no individual powers, but your Evil Timeline faction does!

    Your faction has the following abilities:
    1x Ninja (make self untrackable, except for super-tracker)
    2x Role-cop (does not detect who has the new Prime Timeline role if the previous one was killed the night of the check)

    These factional abilities may be used alongside the factional kill, both of which are assigned to Evil Timelines. However, each Evil Timeline is limited to doing two things (both abilities and kills) at a time, unless you are the last surviving Evil Timeline. In which case, you may use everything simultaneously if you wish.

    You also have a permanent chat with your allies:

    You, along with your faction, must control at least half of the votes in the game or have nothing preventing that from happening.

    Other details such as phase length and host's personal adjustments to be finalized at signups.
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    Thread:S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3

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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    Might as well re-post from the discord into here:

    Hey all! We currently don't have any approved games in the queue, so if anybody was thinking of hosting anything let me know. Otherwise, in about a week or two I'll end up making my own signups for something. Not sure what it'll be, so if you have any specific desires for a certain kind of game let me know, but I will have something figured out by then.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    damnit /reserve


    Been wanting to say that when game ended lol.
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    Thread:S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3

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    ►►Re: S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3◄◄

    Honestly maybe it wouldn't be so bad that, if we make another "nonstandard roles" setup, that in the first run of it we make it clear that its a trial run or whatever. Its much easier to find mistakes and potential issues when running a game than when its on the whiteboard and hasn't been run yet. Having people be mindful of it not being fully tested might make for a better experience.

    Just a thought I'm throwing out there.
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    @oliverz144

    idk if you're planning to stick around but if I happen to be running a setup again in the future you should be free to join it

    I can't even remember how long its been the way where I wasn't having you in my games, but its been long enough and you seemed to be genuinely engaged playing this and I really appreciate that
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    Thread:S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerofdeath View Post
    Hindsight is 20/20. A lot of roles working in a way I didnt expect for them to work that way this game. Not just ghost.
    Yeah. Also to be clear I'm not blaming just you, part of the blame lies on myself as well. I had a fair hand in scrutinizing each of the roles (in setup review) and I feel like I should've spotted that about the ghost thing. But, as you say, hindsight is 20/20.
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    Thread:S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3

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    I do think that Ghost is perhaps not a fun role to play against as neutral though. That probably should've been considered for longer. You can't shut down a whole mafia or town team as ghost. But you can shut down a whole neutral faction which just seems unfair.
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    Thread:S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3

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    Yeah, the night actions really just decided the game for the most part. Not the balancing/role distribution IMO.

    Very interesting to know that 4 cleanings were prevented though LOL. Poor mafia.
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    -vote scumbot5679


    whatever happens I'm p sure we'll all figure it out
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    Like several things would need to mess up for us to not win so

    I kinda don't care what we end up doing
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    It's preety difficult to lose this. Thinking of a worse-case scenario, assuming nothing special like vengeful:


    t
    t
    t
    t
    t
    t

    m
    m

    n

    Votes off town. Nks, with ghost in control and mafia killing, at most 2 towns and 1 mafia

    t
    t
    t

    m

    n

    At this point we should know who the mafia is, and if not, we vote off the town in a 1v1. Ghost is used then to either not-target or self-target and the last mafia.

    After that, we have 2 town left and vote off Mizery. So really if we assume all of that then practical way we can only lose is if Varcron misplays the Evil Teacher control or if we all mess up and Evil Vengeful exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I think our ghost will follow my lead.
    frankly

    the ghost wants Mizery to lose so

    if any plan gets town to auto-win, and town goes with plan #1 via voting out X, Varcron probably follows that plan
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    I'm preety confident in this plan. I'll type up a better formatted one probably sometime tomorrow IRL.
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    er
    @scumbot5679

    Basically please send your cat to one of Martin/DM. If Oli is mafia vengeful he may try to kill Helz in which case that leaves you open to do a check.
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    Just realized there is ofc one more way to frick the plan, which is mafia vengeful killing Helz.

    But I don't think that breaks the plan. In the end, that allows Scumbot to do a check with his cat since he wasn't killed by mafia Vengeful. Regardless of Scumbot being town or mafia, it'll cause the resulting PoE to shrink by one so that there's a 1v1 thunderdome by next day phase.

    See the logic below:

    Because then Luka and I just need to do this:

    Commit to protecting helz, and if Oli murders Helz, we commit to protecting Huo Huo. If mafia doesn't NK Mizery, we get full alignment checks on Me/MM/Luka and leaves game at Oli/DM and Oli/Scumbot as possible teams.

    If mafia does NK Mizery, then that opens things up to

    Martin/Oli
    DM/Oli
    Scumbot/Oli

    However, since we're assuming a mafia vengeful DOES NOT kill @Scum bot5678 , we can just send the cat to one of these people and force a check via cat regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Okay so I think I got this down into one post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    We can agree it’s never Luka/Martin right?
    Due to the lack of kills.

    So in such case if Oliver and Scumbot aren’t hits it’s just MM/Tau?
    this makes sense actually, as otherwise it'd be very likely one of Martin/Luka/Helz/Huo would've died

    therefore one of us must be town, or both, we just don't know that yet

    Therefore, if there are no red flips in Oliver/Scumbot, the only realistically possible team is MM/Huo -- supposedly Mizery, the evil teacher, tried killing MM/Huo on n1 and since it didn't happen they're the same alignment.

    If there is a red flip, that clears MM. This narrows things down to

    Luka/red flip
    Martin/red flip
    DM/red flip

    With that knowledge, we can figure out exactly which by doing the following:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    Varcron goes MM and Martin
    Tau goes MM and Luka
    The evil teacher will detect if I am mafia -- we already know MM is town if there is a red flip from lynching Oli/Scumbot -- and if I am indeed mafia I get one too many stab wounds alongside MM.

    The teacher check on MM + Luka will tell us if they're the same or not. If they're not, Luka is just outed since we know MM is town from the hypothetical red flip.

    In the event that neither MM or I die, and Luka is revealed to be the same as MM, we can conclude that every one of us is town.

    Which then reveals the final and only possibility:

    DM/red flip

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    Actually you both need to protect Helz for this to work.
    Helz’s survival is key here.

    @Martin
    @Luka

    Protect Helz Tonight.
    Since ghost is town-siding and controls evil teacher, only way to fuck with this plan is either not following the plan, Mizery lying to us (I doubt it), or the mafia NK. That is why by protecting Helz (as in, both me AND luka) we can ensure Helz lives through the next day to force a bride and instantly solve the game (or get extremely close to, I didn't math every possibility).
    @oliverz144

    we're planning to vote you off so you can vengeful kill scumbot

    this works so we can clear both you guys in one day, which leads to auto-win --- see the above quoted post

    MAKE SURE YOU TELL THE HOST THAT YOU'RE TARGETING THEM -- YOU DON'T KILL THEM AFTER DEATH, YOU KILL THEM UPON DEATH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    I think I've won a game somewhere voting only one time.

    I've completely forgotten which one it was and how'd I end up doing that despite living for a while lol.
    actually I can't find it

    might've mixed it up with some other statistic

    like maybe only one wrong vote
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    I think I've won a game somewhere voting only one time.

    I've completely forgotten which one it was and how'd I end up doing that despite living for a while lol.
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    @Marshmallow Marshall

    Whole bunch of posts at SoD4, so I've got the important bits down into one post I think. This post I made should help you wrap your head around it. Also Mizery is Evil Teacher for context.

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Okay so I think I got this down into one post.



    this makes sense actually, as otherwise it'd be very likely one of Martin/Luka/Helz/Huo would've died

    therefore one of us must be town, or both, we just don't know that yet

    Therefore, if there are no red flips in Oliver/Scumbot, the only realistically possible team is MM/Huo -- supposedly Mizery, the evil teacher, tried killing MM/Huo on n1 and since it didn't happen they're the same alignment.

    If there is a red flip, that clears MM. This narrows things down to

    Luka/red flip
    Martin/red flip
    DM/red flip

    With that knowledge, we can figure out exactly which by doing the following:



    The evil teacher will detect if I am mafia -- we already know MM is town if there is a red flip from lynching Oli/Scumbot -- and if I am indeed mafia I get one too many stab wounds alongside MM.

    The teacher check on MM + Luka will tell us if they're the same or not. If they're not, Luka is just outed since we know MM is town from the hypothetical red flip.

    In the event that neither MM or I die, and Luka is revealed to be the same as MM, we can conclude that every one of us is town.

    Which then reveals the final and only possibility:

    DM/red flip



    Since ghost is town-siding and controls evil teacher, only way to fuck with this plan is either not following the plan, Mizery lying to us (I doubt it), or the mafia NK. That is why by protecting Helz (as in, both me AND luka) we can ensure Helz lives through the next day to force a bride and instantly solve the game (or get extremely close to, I didn't math every possibility).
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    99.5% chance sure DM is town

    0.5% chance of me doesn't give a frick to care
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    Okay so I think I got this down into one post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    We can agree it’s never Luka/Martin right?
    Due to the lack of kills.

    So in such case if Oliver and Scumbot aren’t hits it’s just MM/Tau?
    this makes sense actually, as otherwise it'd be very likely one of Martin/Luka/Helz/Huo would've died

    therefore one of us must be town, or both, we just don't know that yet

    Therefore, if there are no red flips in Oliver/Scumbot, the only realistically possible team is MM/Huo -- supposedly Mizery, the evil teacher, tried killing MM/Huo on n1 and since it didn't happen they're the same alignment.

    If there is a red flip, that clears MM. This narrows things down to

    Luka/red flip
    Martin/red flip
    DM/red flip

    With that knowledge, we can figure out exactly which by doing the following:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    Varcron goes MM and Martin
    Tau goes MM and Luka
    The evil teacher will detect if I am mafia -- we already know MM is town if there is a red flip from lynching Oli/Scumbot -- and if I am indeed mafia I get one too many stab wounds alongside MM.

    The teacher check on MM + Luka will tell us if they're the same or not. If they're not, Luka is just outed since we know MM is town from the hypothetical red flip.

    In the event that neither MM or I die, and Luka is revealed to be the same as MM, we can conclude that every one of us is town.

    Which then reveals the final and only possibility:

    DM/red flip

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    Actually you both need to protect Helz for this to work.
    Helz’s survival is key here.

    @Martin
    @Luka

    Protect Helz Tonight.
    Since ghost is town-siding and controls evil teacher, only way to fuck with this plan is either not following the plan, Mizery lying to us (I doubt it), or the mafia NK. That is why by protecting Helz (as in, both me AND luka) we can ensure Helz lives through the next day to force a bride and instantly solve the game (or get extremely close to, I didn't math every possibility).
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    -vote Oliverz144
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    But yeah if mafia's made no kills its probably just Oli/Luka or something like that.
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    My god this SoD was so spammy for a site like this lol.

    There were a few bits of important information in all of that.

    Like Miz's claim about what kills they were responsible for and that apparently they tried to kill MM and Huo on (by process of elimination I assume) n1.
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    yeah DM is waaaay ahead of everyone here

    I'm starting to connect the dots, its preety clever
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    I also forgot to put it in green smh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    @powerofdeath

    does cat lady's cat get sent if they submit the action during the day but die sometime later at EoD?
    Actually wait I don't think there's a situation where that's useful

    Any chance it would be would need the catlady to be alive to report any info recieved
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    @powerofdeath

    does cat lady's cat get sent if they submit the action during the day but die sometime later at EoD?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    Never called you a wolf.
    I said you can be one mechanically.
    hasn't felt like its been viewed merely as simple mechanical possibility, but regardless

    its just that I had hopes some of the things I've done would be seen as town-read worthy and getting called wolf in basically every mention of my name since then kinda just makes for an irritating and frustrating situation lol.
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    If there's any plan that can auto-win regardless of any one's alignment, then I'm all for it.

    Especially if it'd get DM to shoot down his own self-absorbed ego-addicted belief that I'm wolf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huo Huo and Mr Tail View Post
    the fact that both protectives AND Helz are alive is stunning to me
    hence why I think this may be useful to think about

    I haven't really perfected it but I think we may be able to work something out that sorts out Me/Luka, and if not, will generate problems for our hypothetical partners

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Suggestion.

    I think there's a point to not killing Me or Luka today (including trying to do it via Oliver's vengeful), because since we're both claiming protectives we can pre-emptively claim to protect either Helz or Huo Hou.

    That way mafia's forced to kill one of us, or outside of us and Helz/Huo Huo (in other words, must night-kill one of Martin/Luka/Oliver/Marshmallow/Scumbot or possibly forsake the kill). If either the planned protects die then their protector is instantly outed. Interference like role-blocks from Cat Lady are very unlikely (or impossible) to happen without some mech info (or lack there-of) to corroborate it.

    I don't know what we should suggest with the Evil Teacher kill though. I haven't fully mathed it all out. But I suspect there might be some combo we can work out where it easily limits the mechanical hypothetical worlds where I am a wolf, and if I am somehow a wolf, it would be quite devastating to my team's position.
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    *among the first people to claim d3 within POE, made a significant breadcrumb of it well before that, and claims action in first post of d4*

    DM: You're too hesistant!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    I’m just pointing it out.
    Are you not hesitant on claiming?
    Mizery was and they aren’t mafia are they?
    well if you were not busy spamming so much

    you wouldn't have missed this

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    I honestly don't understand half the things said about me so far.

    I should claim because on the chance that I claim X I'm somehow wolf?

    Even if I did claim X, it would be incorrect, and if I am wolf why would I not claim anything else lmao?

    Anyways, protectives should always be on Huo Huo given they can check. Me being killed + Huo Huo getting a check off would be quite optimal for fine-tuning the PoE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizery View Post
    lol why are you saying i don't understand mech
    I mean

    I feel like half the time I try to talk about mech the way I (usually) do you tend to not understand it well or focus on other stuff or whatever

    it just doesn't seem like I'm a very effective communicator about it when it comes to you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizery View Post
    every night?
    n1 helz

    n2 MM (I thought doc dodge on Huo)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magician View Post
    Indeed and it also looks like Martin is hesitant on claiming, It would be good to note if Luka got their ability off or not as they haven’t checked in yet.
    DM why the fuck does it matter to you

    if I am wolf I know what's bad to claim and can easily claim or not claim or whatever the heck wifom it

    Mizery's known not to understand mech all that well

    but you?

    I expected better
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizery View Post
    Martin and luka need to claim their actions still
    oh right I forgot you don't speak mech

    I went to Huo Huo's house, if that wasn't clear earlier
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    Suggestion.

    I think there's a point to not killing Me or Luka today (including trying to do it via Oliver's vengeful), because since we're both claiming protectives we can pre-emptively claim to protect either Helz or Huo Hou.

    That way mafia's forced to kill one of us, or outside of us and Helz/Huo Huo (in other words, must night-kill one of Martin/Luka/Oliver/Marshmallow/Scumbot or possibly forsake the kill). If either the planned protects die then their protector is instantly outed. Interference like role-blocks from Cat Lady are very unlikely (or impossible) to happen without some mech info (or lack there-of) to corroborate it.

    I don't know what we should suggest with the Evil Teacher kill though. I haven't fully mathed it all out. But I suspect there might be some combo we can work out where it easily limits the mechanical hypothetical worlds where I am a wolf, and if I am somehow a wolf, it would be quite devastating to my team's position.
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    I honestly don't understand half the things said about me so far.

    I should claim because on the chance that I claim X I'm somehow wolf?

    Even if I did claim X, it would be incorrect, and if I am wolf why would I not claim anything else lmao?

    Anyways, protectives should always be on Huo Huo given they can check. Me being killed + Huo Huo getting a check off would be quite optimal for fine-tuning the PoE.
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    AMFAIWFGMOIDRMRKBMLHMRKADDWAD

    had to get that out
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    -vote bwcPorscha
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    Marshmallow Marshall (4):
    MartinGG99, Lilypetal, Huo Huo and Mr Tail, scumbot5679
    Lilypetal (1):
    Marshmallow Marshall
    Huo Huo and Mr Tail (1):
    Cape90
    Cape90 (2):
    bwcPorscha, Helz
    Mizery (1):
    oliverz144
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    It would have been my first choice but I don’t understand the cat lady claim. It’s awful for scum cover. Confirmable utility with scum pairing. Yet nobody has encountered a cat and claimed which means they are blocking scum or lying.

    Wish they were here to give targets..
    If they are scum they are evil cat lady/Mafia for sure
    @Helz

    you missed scumbot saying he forgot n2 and gave it to varcron n1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Martin - Probably still town, although he's playing pretty poorly right now; that argument saying "b-but the meta clears on Lily!! I must sheep them!!!" while ignoring everything else was very bad lol, and if there's something strange to look at, that's a good start
    I have a long-standing issue of not knowing when to listen to myself or to others more when solving, though that issue is generally more harder to witness as I'm not always publicizing my every single thought. But frequently if I'm not hard-set into an idea and enough people voice opposing views I will eventually cave in just through implicit or direct peer pressure, not because I think they're right, but because I don't want to be wrong and/or I think I should owe them consideration.

    Not that's any excuse. Just an explanation if you are town and want a serious answer on one part of how I got there on Lily.
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