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    ►►Re: What's the stupidest thing you've seen in this game?◄◄

    I was judge and courted the Marshall to get 3 townies and lead a scum comeback. We went into the night judge + mafioso vs. 2 town.

    I openly claimed my number so the mafia would not shoot me.

    The mafia guy then shot me, and got lynched the next day.

    He said ďoh I thought you were lying about your numberĒ
  2. Forum:Circlejerk

    Thread:HEWWO UWU,

    Thread Author:theoneceko

    Post Author:aamirus

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    ►►Re: HEWWO UWU,◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    Too bad can't color 000000-ffffff like in the mod.
    Though glow is nice too.
    what do you mean? the color text here is the same 6 rgb values?
  3. Forum:Puzzles and Other Forum Games

    Thread:Possible

    Thread Author:OzyWho

    Post Author:aamirus

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    ►►Re: Possible◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    pfft, that's nothing!

    "this statement is a lie" <--- True or false?
    True. Since "pfft, that's nothing!" is a lie.
  4. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:mrfuzzy: 1-S2-1-10195915

    Thread Author:asdf2020

    Post Author:aamirus

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    {Watch List} ►►Re: intentional gamethrowing ( grudge throw) for mrfuzzy 1-10195915◄◄

    ID Verification:
    MrFuzzy: 1-S2-1-10195915

    Summary
    MrFuzzy roles marshall in slot 5 with name Guido the Stupid.

    D2 reveals as marshall. Votes 11 as soon as voting is enabled even though there is no lead against him and he's an easily confirmable bus driver (and has pmed as well). Then he says "get the afks" and lynches 9. Does not make a lw other than "Frank Zappa is in hell..." or seem to look at the log at all to see what people claimed.

    D3 reveals as marshall again. Asks who to kill and lynches jester and vigilante. Does not make a lw or seem to look at the log at all to see what people claimed.

    D4 after someone pms him an updated lw he says openly "if u think i am paying attention to your PM..." "u r wrong" "pick someone ffs"
    Someone votes 3 so then he votes 3 up. 3 gives legit invest lw. Mrfuzzy guilties anyway and says "he a bitch" "he peppery"

    N4 he is killed.

    Player Offenses
    gamethrowing/griefing

    Previous Offenses
    none

    Recommended Action
    WL X2

    Additional Notes
    Clearly has no interest in actually playing his role.

    Thanks for your report!
  5. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:Crackling: 1-S2-1-619396

    Thread Author:LagAttack

    Post Author:aamirus

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    {Watch List} ►►Re: Crackling: 1-S2-1-619396◄◄

    ID Verification:
    Crackling: 1-S2-1-619396 Correct

    Summary
    Replay 1 -
    Roles vig in slot 10 with name Deaf and Dumb.

    D2 gets afk warnings.
    N2 comes back from afk and shoots 5 who is detective

    N3 chooses to shoot the revealed mayor...



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    Replay 2 -
    Coronor in slot 13 with same name.

    D2 gets afk messages but comes back.
    N2 checks 14's body.
    D3: updates lw, but only puts a small part of the information in.
    N3 checks 12's body.
    D4: he deletes his last will

    D5: marshall reveals. Crackling does not pm, but is not afk since he votes somebody. Crackling gets lynched.


    Player Offenses
    Gamethrowingx2

    Previous Offenses
    none

    Recommended Action
    WL X4

    Additional Notes
    It seems like he can't be bothered to actually play the game so then he just throws because he can't be bothered to actually write a lw or keep up with what is going on.

    Thanks for your report!
  6. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:LorenHusky int. killing team

    Thread Author:Nephi

    Post Author:aamirus

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    {Watch List} ►►Re: LorenHusky int. killing team◄◄

    ID Verification:
    LorenHusky: 1-S2-1-2283438 Correct

    Summary
    He blacklists several mafia roles.
    He roles kidnapper in slot 14 with the name LorenHusky

    D1 he chooses to jail his mafia teammate the disguiser.

    N1 he tells him they are on the same team and doesn't execute

    D2 he chooses to jail his other mafia teammate the godfather

    N2 he executes the godfather

    D3 the disguiser is on trial and claiming he was jailed n1 and lorenhusky votes inno but does not confirm jailing him, resulting in him getting lynched.

    Town goes on to win easily, as lorenhusky is eventually determined to be mafia by invest.

    Player Offenses
    griefing/gamethrowing

    Previous Offenses
    none

    Recommended Action
    WL X3

    Additional Notes
    I suspect he didn't want to be mafia. You could claim that he jailed and executed his godfather to try to gain town credibility but that doesn't explain why he also jailed his other teammate n1.

    Thanks for your report!
  7. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:Moon: 1-S2-1-10273169

    Thread Author:Bloodwrath

    Post Author:aamirus

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    {Ban List} ►►Re: Moon: 1-S2-1-10273169◄◄

    ID Verification:
    Moon: 1-S2-1-10273169 Correct

    Summary
    Replay 1 -
    Roles doctor in slot 5 with name "krabby patty thief".
    N1 takes no action.
    N2 goes to heal 1 but is rbed.

    D2 he counterclaims the crier. Gets trialed. Does not claim a role but just that he was roleblocked for 2 nights in a row. Gets innoed.

    N3 the crier spams that he should have been guiltied since he didn't give a role/lw
    He chooses not to heal anybody. He puts in his lw that he's 100% confirmed town which is not even true anyway.

    D4 he gets trialed again at the behest of the crier and again refuses to claim a role/lw. This time gets guiltied.



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    Replay 2 -
    He did put a single vote on you but he then checked log, saw u were mayor, and then did pm you his role before u trialed him. So nothing wrong here imo.

    Player Offenses
    Replay 1 - griefing/gamethrowing

    Previous Offenses
    several from mid-2020. Just approved a WLX4 for the same behavior in another thread (https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...1-S2-1-1608654)

    Recommended Action
    upgrade that approved WLX4 to BL X2

    Additional Notes
    Getting roleblocked may confirm that he is not SK or mafioso, but it does not confirm that he is town. There is a neut rand and any rand slot that can even be cult. Additionally, on top of refusing to claim his role he also counterclaimed the crier. And for 2 out of 3 nights he did not choose to doc anybody.

    Thanks for your report!
  8. {Ban List} ►►Re: Moon: 1-S2-1-10273169, SemiCascade: 1-S2-1-1608654◄◄

    ID Verification:
    Moon: 1-S2-1-10273169 Correct

    Summary
    Moon and SemiCascade are in adjacent lobby slots.

    Moon roles doctor in slot 3 with the name "Enrico Giorgi".
    SemiCascade roles spy in slot 12 with the name "WHERES MY CHEEEEESE"

    On d2 when trialed, Moon gives a correct spy LW (k11 v1).

    However, 11 is dead so that is obvious. And 1 was executed by a jailor who was trialed right before moon. So it's possible he just made up the lw at the time because he believed the jailor was interro and wanted him dead.

    Also, moon doesn't choose to heal SemiCascade at all which you'd expect if he was his friend feeding him info.

    Additionally, semicascade recently applied for a point restore and didn't have any replays. If moon was his close friend that he skypes with then i'd imagine he would have been able to furnish a replay for his buddy.

    So overall i do not think this is skyping. But i will apply griefing to moon for making up the fake spy claim.

    Player Offenses
    griefing

    Previous Offenses
    Most recently he got BLx2 for griefing and gamethrowing repeatedly in july 2020

    Recommended Action
    WL X4

    Additional Notes

    Thanks for your report!







    edit: before applying this, see here, same guy reported again https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...814#post924814
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    {Watch List} ►►Re: Creedkingsx: 1-S2-1-10715412◄◄

    Replay 1 - Creedkingsx leaves the game during name selection, before roles are revealed. He says nothing before leaving.
    As we have no clues as to why he left there is no rulebreaking to identify here. Ignored.

    Replay 2 -
    ID Verification:
    creedkingsx: 1-S2-1-10715412 Correct

    Summary
    after coulson leaves the game during setup, creedkingsx says choo choo a couple of times and then leaves.

    Player Offenses
    leave train

    Previous Offenses
    none

    Recommended Action
    wl x2

    Additional Notes
    this is a different ID so not sure if this is somebody pretending to be creedkingsx (1-s2-1-445672) or if he just made a new sc2 account

    Thanks for your report!
  10. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:Tbag: 1-S2-1-486541

    Thread Author:LagAttack

    Post Author:aamirus

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    {Watch List} ►►Re: Tbag: 1-S2-1-486541◄◄

    ID Verification:
    Tbag: 1-S2-1-486541 Correct

    Summary
    names himself "NIGGERS"
    roles doc and dies n1.

    Player Offenses
    Name abuse

    Previous Offenses
    none

    Recommended Action
    wl x2

    Additional Notes

    Thanks for your report!
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    {Watch List} ►►Re: Paopan: 1-S2-1-11839986, Monke: 1-S2-1-5986860◄◄

    ID Verification:
    Paopan: 1-S2-1-11839986 Correct
    Monke: 1-S2-1-5986860 Correct

    Summary
    Paopan roles jailor, spams ""I AM MARKING MYSELF "SAFE" FOR BEING WHITE! KILL NIGGERS!""
    Jails and executes 12 and laughs "gahaha nigger die"
    Dies n1.

    Monke names himself "NIGGER HUNTER", spams about hunting black people during setup phase and also of course targets the player named "George Floyd" on n1...

    Player Offenses
    Paopan: Griefing
    Monke: Name Abuse

    Previous Offenses
    Paopan: WLx2 for griefing and WL x2 for leave train
    Monke: currently serving WLx4 for for repeated counts of name abuse/griefing

    Recommended Action
    Paopan: WL X4
    Monke: Add another WLx1 to existing

    Additional Notes
    Paopan already received WLx2 in the past for griefing spam.

    Monke just got WLX4 for the same behavior but this report is from before the punishment was applied. So recommending just adding another WLX1 on top of existing.

    Thanks for your report!
  12. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:TotAll - 1-S2-1-1383395

    Thread Author:Elixir

    Post Author:aamirus

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    {Watch List} ►►Re: TotAll - 1-S2-1-1383395◄◄

    ID Verification:
    TotAll: 1-S2-1-1383395 Correct

    Summary
    He roles blackmailer in slot 7. It's an 8331 save where the any random became mafia so there are 4 mafia.

    The GF is afk n1.

    Gf is back n2 but runs into a vet.

    D3 agent gets trialed and can't come up with a LW and at this point (even though there are still 2 other unknown mafia left including TotAll) TotAll rages and reveals himself as mafia, complaining about his shitty teammates. Agent is lynched.

    D4 TotAll is trialed and reveals his other remaining teammate, 12 the disguiser, before being lynched.

    Player Offenses
    gamethrowing

    Previous Offenses
    gamethrowing wlx2 from 2016

    Recommended Action
    WL X2

    Additional Notes
    Seems like he was just having a really bad day with the teammates not being very helpful but that's no excuse to throw.

    Thanks for your report!
  13. {Watch List} ►►Re: Theseb 1-s2-1-9971823 Bibleguy 1-s2-1-2791205 and Killer 1-s2-1-2481498◄◄

    ID Verification:
    theseb: 1-S2-1-9971823 Correct

    Summary
    Going into n4 there is Godfather, Mass Murderer, Judge, and Survivor left and everybody knows who each other is.
    The godfather and mass murderer suicide and the godfather kills the judge in order to get a survivor wins screen.

    Player Offenses
    theseb: Gamethrowing

    Previous Offenses
    name abuse - WL x2

    Recommended Action
    WL X2

    Additional Notes
    The judge was killed so "killer" did nothing wrong.
    The MM "bibleguy" suicided but he is a solo team so he is allowed to do that if he wants to since nobody suffers.

    However the consig->godfather suiciding is not allowed since he also took the win away from his 2 mafia teammates. In dead chat he said "but i already got my consig win before" - so he did not seem to consider that he was throwing the game for his 2 dead teammates. Hence just a small warning to not do this again is appropriate.

    Thanks for your report!
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    {Approved} ►►Re: 1-S2-1-10217240 Averis◄◄

    @Averis
  15. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Laptop acting up/ disconnection

    Thread Author:SevenForce

    Post Author:aamirus

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    ►►Re: Laptop acting up/ disconnection◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    First post since early December. Gets banned.
    Poor guy.
    That is "cute" aka the guy who likes to spam in-game about raping children
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    [Misc. Suggestion] ►►Re: Petition to Nerf Prefer/Blacklist◄◄

    I would argue the root problem is people picking the same colored name every game and there already exists a solution - you can disable name picking in your setup. People wonít even repick you since they wonít notice the setting. Have fun!
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    [Misc. Suggestion] ►►Re: Petition to Nerf Prefer/Blacklist◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by ZZorange View Post
    I will agree that Blacklist as it currently stands is extremely powerful and should probably be toned down. I cannot remember the last time I was given a role that is on my blacklist, if my blacklist loaded in at the start of the game. However in regards to LagAttacks assessment that it doesn't overly impact the meta I would agree. For it to impact the meta that would require a majority of players to know of and then use said lists to their advantage which just doesn't happen.

    If the game worked that way I would never be n1 jailed or shot by vigilante since I roll town 90% of the time, but that just simply isn't the reality of the situation and I got the 200+ n1 execute replays to prove it.

    I like the prefer because it allows you to get the good roles more like coroner, but the fact that it doesn't auto give you the role is good, you frequently get roles not on your prefer, even when you have 10 roles selected there's a reasonable chance you won't get any of them. If blacklist were made similar to prefer, where there was still a small chance 2 get those hated rolls as opposed to virtually never, it would probably be fine.

    Alternatively it could be adjusted that you would have 2 that had to be of a different alignment, such that you could only blacklist 8 mafia for example giving you the chance to become mafia even if you really really didn't want to be.
    there are actually 12 maf/triad roles total (including mafioso, so then just 11) - so it's actually not possible to blacklist them all.
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    [Misc. Suggestion] ►►Re: Petition to Nerf Prefer/Blacklist◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by MrMostache View Post
    As far as I understand, -prefer doesn't guarantee the existence of the role, it simply increases your chances of getting it IF the role was rolled in the game.

    That being said, I do agree that -prefer and blacklist ruins the meta. I prefer sheriff and doctor. If I don't get them, then there is a high chance that whoever is claiming them is lying.
    Blacklist and prefer donít affect which 15 roles get selected, correct. And prefer just increases the chance while itís deciding who to give the role to that you will be picked. Blacklist cannot guarantee you donít get a role either.
  19. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Laptop acting up/ disconnection

    Thread Author:SevenForce

    Post Author:aamirus

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    ►►Re: Laptop acting up/ disconnection◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    ?????
    Yea Iím not really sure anybody would agree with his sentiment there lol
  20. Forum:Horrendous Content

    Thread:CD v ECD

    Thread Author:OzyWho

    Post Author:aamirus

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    ►►Re: CD v ECD◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    i honestly wouldnt have even considered moving other threads into hc just to fuck with you even if i had the ability to do so. i literally cannot move threads unless they're here.

    i could not have POSSIBLY "started shit" like your claim here.

    genuinely please consider seeking mental help. we're not out to get you. i roast the fuck out of everyone equally. it's just sad.
    Yea stealth only has mod abilities in horrendous content, canít touch stuff anywhere else
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    {Permanently Banned} ►►Re: ZZorange: 1-S2-1-2701690◄◄

    https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...447#post924447
  22. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Home theatre setup question

    Thread Author:rumox

    Post Author:aamirus

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    ►►Re: Home theatre setup question◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    i have a samsung q950t soundbar and a lg cx tv. the tv does not support DTS audio so I need a way to play my movies that have DTS audio without transcoding it. i want to know if the following setup will work

    nvidia shield -> soundbar -> (via earc) cx
    ps4 -> cx

    im hoping to play DTS content through the shield -> soundbar connection since they both support DTS. so im thinking that the shield sends the video and audio to the soundbar, then the video carries through the soundbar into the tv. the video being carried through the soundbar is where im not sure?
    it is possible to do what you are asking but not ideal since now you'd also need to ensure the soundbar supports video passthrough of all the latest standards itself.

    One solution i can suggest is use hdmi to connect your ps4 to the tv and then use an optical cord to connect the ps4 to the soundbar. And then you don't need the shield.
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    {Permanently Banned} ►►Re: Mutex: 1-S2-1-10403029, TheOutsider: 1-S2-2-533653, Billy: 1-S2-1-12086078◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    Billy's account is a recent one.
    Tried to solo join the arcade map several times, it is a smurf.
    History almost full of Mafia, and starting with 5 to 6 autokicked games two weeks ago.
    Just leaving it here in case I forget it.
    yea Billy is a cute smurf, spams about pedophile stuff
  24. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:SC2Mafia MVP Contest: 2021 Edition

    Thread Author:aamirus

    Post Author:aamirus

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    Sticky: ►►Re: SC2Mafia MVP Contest: 2021 Edition◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    nothing surprised me more recently on the mod than my mislynch of unknown as doc xD
    please keep this thread clean. it makes the judging easier
  25. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Pinocchio

    Thread Author:Helz

    Post Author:aamirus

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    ►►Re: Pinocchio◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by ClaireVV View Post
    I guess watching movies had become kind of addiction in these times
    omg see they all pick this dragon ball avatar now
  26. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Laptop acting up/ disconnection

    Thread Author:SevenForce

    Post Author:aamirus

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    ►►Re: Laptop acting up/ disconnection◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by SevenForce View Post
    it's a very old laptop I believe. It's an R 55 Alienware, and it's been doing this thing where when I hit the windows key so i can listen to music on youtube then go back into mafia it just the screen completely freezes and doesn't let me click anything. So I'm forced to reboot.
    try putting sc2 into borderless window mode

    alt-tab from a full screen game tends to be buggy
  27. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Laptop acting up/ disconnection

    Thread Author:SevenForce

    Post Author:aamirus

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    ►►Re: Laptop acting up/ disconnection◄◄

    I mean sc2 came out in like 2010 Iím sure your laptop should be able to run it fine. Do you ever lose connection or have big lag spikes in other games? Buffering when streaming?
  28. ►►Re: MafiaUniverse's Mafia Championship, Season 8 - Nominations (vote here!)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    PTSD

    Friendly tip: don't say ANYTHING is interesting in your game(s) there. EVER.
    Wow the word interesting shows up there 19 times on that one page.
    Interesting
  29. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:UWU

    Thread Author:theoneceko

    Post Author:aamirus

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    ►►Re: UWU◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by LagAttack View Post
    UWOWU HEWWO!!!
    Oh no...
  30. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:UWU

    Thread Author:theoneceko

    Post Author:aamirus

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    ►►Re: UWU◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    WHAT THE FUCK?!?

    i don't need this thread to get hr to join FM. UFOFU HEFFO@!!!
    prove it
  31. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:UWU

    Thread Author:theoneceko

    Post Author:aamirus

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    ►►Re: UWU◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    NOT A SINGLE PERSON THAT NEVER PLAYED FM HAS VIEWED THIS THREAD@!!!


    NOW I KNOW WHY FM IS INACTIVE. UWOWU HEWWO!!!
    what about lagattack?
  32. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:ZZOrange: 1-S2-1-2701690

    Thread Author:2Blue

    Post Author:aamirus

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    {Redundant} ►►Re: ZZOrange: 1-S2-1-2701690◄◄

    i'm not sure why this thread was moved into this forum. Anyway i said to wait for arrow's response so please cooperate with that.
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    {Ban List} ►►WeWuzKangz: 1-S2-1-10371102◄◄

    Account Name: WeWuzKangz
    Account ID: 1-S2-1-10371102
    In-Game Name: N word

    Crimes Committed: gamethrowing and griefing

    Your Account Name: aamirus
    Summary:
    Spams offensive language as mayor until he is lynched on d2, never claiming a role.


    Name: -Mafia- (3016).SC2Replay
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    {Permanently Banned} ►►Re: ZZorange: 1-S2-1-2701690◄◄

    please wait until arrow gets back to respond, thread closed until then.
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    {Permanently Banned} ►►Re: ZZorange: 1-S2-1-2701690◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by ZZorange View Post
    Are you counting each one of Nekos reports as a seperate report? Yikes dude, at least try to hide the bias. Or are we just inventing reports now, or hiding some for dramatic effect?

    Also straight up telling one of the reporters their report is invalid, but then acting as if it contributes to the fact that the reported is fucking up is some next level mental gymnastics. Your report both simulatenously doesn't matter because it's not in the rules, but also does because we need to build a case on him to get him banned.
    i didn't say his report was invalid, i said i hadn't processed it yet but the description didn't sound like it would lead to much. There are multiple replies after that point by mods who actually reviewed the replays, and you then got reported 4 more times while the decision was still being considered
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    {Permanently Banned} ►►Re: ZZorange: 1-S2-1-2701690◄◄

    I realize they are not shown in this thread and understand the frustration. However I believe in his decision that @Arrow was also taking into account another 4 reports from other users. I’ll leave him to comment on that.

    Coming off a recent 4X banlist and getting another 7 reports suggests something is wrong with what you’re doing. But it’s fair to expect each report gets its own separate analysis as well. Anyway I’m not sure if arrow was using those other 4 in his decision so I’ll leave it at that for now
  37. Forum:Circlejerk

    Thread:Create SuperJack a Bio

    Thread Author:SuperJack

    Post Author:aamirus

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    ►►Re: Create SuperJack a Bio◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    no one can ever know about that
    we can make a 2nd one to feed to them and pretend like it's the real one
  38. Forum:Circlejerk

    Thread:Create SuperJack a Bio

    Thread Author:SuperJack

    Post Author:aamirus

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    ►►Re: Create SuperJack a Bio◄◄

    Put a link to your secret page for epic lulz
  39. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:The future "racism"

    Thread Author:OzyWho

    Post Author:aamirus

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    ►►Re: The future "racism"◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    You're going to extremes by saying that "perhaps nobody is 'disordered' and everybody is normal." If we believed that, how would we treat people who are clearly autistic? If someone is showing obvious symptoms of autism, then you should treat them. How is that offensive?
    i didn't claim that, i just noted it as a result of the trickle down logic being used by oberon
  40. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:The future "racism"

    Thread Author:OzyWho

    Post Author:aamirus

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    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    It's usually pretty easy to tell if someone is autistic.
    Source?


    I did not say to "pretend that autism is just a category created by some arbitrary line drawn in the sand". In fact I did the opposite and mocked this approach, as the alternative view of autism as a spectrum is commonly accepted nowadays by anybody arguing in good faith.


    However, you may not realize this, but your notion of "it's usually pretty easy to tell if someone is autistic"
    uses some kind of arbitrary line. A possibly offensive, inaccurate, and just dumb line.

    How in your model do you identify those with autism?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    I guess a psychiatrist. They're the only ones with the know-how.
    so now all people are required to see a psychiatrist? How frequently? For many the problems don't emerge until later in life.

    And who tells the psychiatrist where the line is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Fair, but can't this line be something like 'who should go to a psychiatrist because they can't deal with their problems on their own?'
    who decides whether i can deal with my problems on my own?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    Like #53?
    the polar opposite
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    +1000000
    I didn't realise that was what you meant. I agree with that line of thought completely. There's far too many psychologists nowadays prescribing medicine for things that aren't disorders (like, arguably, attention disorders)
    but if we expand your line of thought, then perhaps nobody is "disordered" and everybody is normal.

    Unless you just want to draw an arbitrary line in the sand for who is and isn't "disordered".

    And any arbitrary line u can fantasize about is going to be clearly less logical than viewing it as a spectrum.\


    What if I am just below this magic line but need help and don't get it since i am viewed as "normal"?

    What if 'I' self-admittedly exhibit neurodivergent behavior but 'I' feel that 'I' function fine and belong in the 'normal' group but this arbitrary line marks me as *GASP* "autistic". Wouldn't 'I' be upset?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Yesss another abnormal person saying NORMAL PEOPLE DO NOT EXIST! If people stopped wanting to be "normal" and thinking they're at fault for not being "normal", they would be much happier.

    And ftr, I don't think Oberon is autistic lmao. If he is, then so am I, and so are a lot of people (I could be wrong of course, but you seem to be pushing it :P). Not being "normal" doesn't mean you have to put a specific "abnormality status" sticker on your forehead.
    i think most people are - it's a spectrum so mild is included. I think your definition of "autistic" might be a bit different from what I said "on the autism spectrum" - which was not meant to be an insult or dig
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    It's interesting to see how these things blend into normal behaviour at the really neurotypical end of the spectrum. I see myself in some of those things you described (fidgeting, trouble with understanding what someone else is saying, facial expressions). In another day and age maybe I would have very mild autism. I probably just have some extreme anxiety disorder, since, from time to time, I act very much like a normal person.
    It sounds like you are on the autism spectrum and would benefit from accepting that, rather than being afraid of it not being ‚Äúnormal‚ÄĚ (which doesn‚Äôt exist)
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    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    LOL. looks like a man is more offended than a woman by mag's comments
    The stance he is taking is so nonsensical that it canít be seriously argued against
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    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    i know that lol
    my bad it just seemed like u were pissed off at him for what he said
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    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    For a very long time people tried their best to prove the controversial Sapir-Whorf hypothesis at any cost. Just because there's something attractive to the idea.

    Lots of great arguments from many many many languages had been put forward, all of which would look very convincing to someone who doesn't know better.
    (Neo-Whorfianists are at least proven though.)

    But this begs the question. In what other areas have scientists been full of it? For one, what about language history? If they can't not make biased random beautiful-looking conclusions about languages from today, what chances are there that they can be objective about long dead languages?
    For something current? Quantum computing. Check out this publication from Scott Aaronson (one of the most cited and published authors in the field): https://scottaaronson.com/papers/qml.pdf

    Itís not that long and he does a good job avoiding overly technical terminology as best as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    I think you are right, but for the wrong reasons. I don't think women were discriminated against in the way you put it.
    I have to believe this is bait
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