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  1. Forum:Mafia Bug Reports

    Thread:Deceitful Mayor Kept Votes

    Thread Author:Veliaire

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    [Setup] ►►Deceitful Mayor Kept Votes◄◄

    Chaos Mode: Bonker

    On this save, I bonked the Mayor and he kept his votes, even though the setting says that the mayor should lose his votes if his role changes. This cost evils the game. Can't expect everyone to have integrity and not vote when they have an unfair and glitched advantage, so this has to be corrected on the back end.

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  2. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:JesusChrist: 1-S2-1-4614590

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    {Ban List} ►►Re: JesusChrist 1-S2-1-4614590◄◄

    Here's another one. He does it every time!

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  3. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:JesusChrist: 1-S2-1-4614590

    Thread Author:Euna

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    {Ban List} ►►JesusChrist 1-S2-1-4614590◄◄

    Account Name: JesusChrist
    Account ID: 1-S2-1-4614590
    In-Game Name: KILL ALL (N-Words)

    Crimes Committed: Griefing/Racism

    Your Account Name: Veliaire
    Summary: This person used a racist name and then spammed racism the entire game.

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  4. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:goldvoid 1-S2-1-12314750

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    {Watch List} ►►goldvoid 1-S2-1-12314750◄◄

    Account Name: goldvoid
    Account ID: 1-S2-1-12314750
    In-Game Name: kill yourself nigger

    Crimes Committed: Griefing (Racism)

    Your Account Name: Veliaire
    Summary: This person used racist slur in his name, and continued to spew toxic racism in game. Please correct his behavior.


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  5. Forum:Punished Players & Appeals

    Thread:Helios 1-S2-1-357441

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    {Watch List} ►►Helios 1-S2-1-357441◄◄

    Account Name: Helios
    Account ID: 1-S2-1-357441
    In-Game Name: ANDREW JACKSON MVP

    Crimes Committed: Griefing (Racism)

    Your Account Name: Veliaire
    Summary: This person got himself executed by not claiming a role in jail, and in graveyard chat he hit me with a ton of toxic racism. Tbh, with people like this in game, lobbies are less fun.

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  6. Forum:Research and Development

    Thread:Poisoner 3 day delay

    Thread Author:Renegade

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    ►►Re: Poisoner 3 day delay◄◄

    Usually, I tend to be on the side of not removing options, but in this instance I will make an exception. There is literally no reason why a neutral killer has to wait 3 nights for a kill. At that point can Poisoner is more Neutral Evil than Neutral Killer.

    One day delay should be non-negotiable. From there, the host can decide whether or not the poisoner will be immune to detection, or have healable poison.

    Poisoner is the only NK that has no option for Night Immunity so why gimp it even further with a 3 night delay?
  7. Forum:Research and Development

    Thread:Ventriloquist

    Thread Author:Veliaire

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    [New Role] ►►Re: Ventriloquist◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Exeter350 View Post

    I think this design shortfall this can be easily rectified with a joint command (-crpm or -pmcr).
    Maybe the ability to pm could be toggled on or off via the settings. I can see how the role would be OP if you could also PM.
  8. Forum:Research and Development

    Thread:Point Reward Suggestions

    Thread Author:Frinckles

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    Sticky: ►►Re: Point Reward Suggestions◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Oh yes, more point rewards that affect the game. That will attract the new players to grind away in games for points.
    Yes. Something to make people feel their time is actually worth something.

    You can relax though, it would take days for a person to earn enough points to use a vest once, and there's no guarantee they'd actually even be shot the night they use it.
  9. Forum:Research and Development

    Thread:Point Reward Suggestions

    Thread Author:Frinckles

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    Sticky: ►►Re: Point Reward Suggestions◄◄

    I currently have 3x as many points as are needed for the highest reward, so I am a fan of adding more ways to spend points--especially point sinks!

    How about something like a vest that costs 750 points? Or some other ability that costs points per use?
  10. ►►Re: Why do admins, developers, and moderators allow prefer and blacklist abuse system to persist?◄◄

    Funny. I have been -prefer constable, jester, jailor, vigilante for days now and have gotten Jailor once. I was starting to think that -prefer had been modified, but then I remembered that nothing is guaranteed.

    I like -prefer and -blacklist and hope they stay. Not just because people have paid real money to support the mod, and they should be respected, but because it gives people something to work towards.... an ultimate goal. There is value in that.
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    [Misc. Suggestion] ►►Oracles that die during the middle of the day◄◄

    I just played a game where I as oracle died to a doll, but my ability wasn't used until the end of the day. If an oracle dies during the day, I believe that their abilities should show the moment they die. It could mean the difference in a tight game, if we get that information ASAP instead of waiting until after lynchings.
  12. Forum:Research and Development

    Thread:Remove JUDGE night chat?

    Thread Author:Arrow

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    [Role Change] ►►Re: Remove JUDGE night chat?◄◄

    Crier has always been a useless role whose only value is that it can always be healed. Anything it can say at night, it can say during the day. Just remove crier already, don't destroy the Judge to make Crier seem useful. Constable is officially 500% better than the Crier could ever hope to be.
  13. Forum:Research and Development

    Thread:Ventriloquist

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    [New Role] ►►Ventriloquist◄◄

    Ventriloquist: Neutral Evil
    Ability: Silence a person and steal their voice each night to talk as them with a command.

    This is basically just the Nymph from the Korean mod, only renamed to something that makes more sense.
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    ►►Re: Remove Admin Ability to Broadcast Messages◄◄

    I literally was in a game not too long ago where an Admin announced he was Jailor as an Admin -- but then like a troll, he didn't even jail anyone and cost town the game. This feature needs to be removed.
  15. Forum:Mafia Bug Archive

    Thread:Caroler is Broken

    Thread Author:Veliaire

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    ►►Caroler is Broken◄◄

    Caroler is bugged. I use the ability n1 and it takes two uses from me, leaving me with only 2/3 uses.

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    ►►Re: Petition : Restore Option for Executioner Night Immunity◄◄

    I agree. Taking away options to suit how a minority of people believe a role should be played isn't the best direction this mod should be taken. Options should not be taken away. Night Immune Executioner should be a choice.

    I think a fine compromise would be leave the role as it is currently in the presets, but give the option for NI in custom saves. Give people their choice back!
  17. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Nerf Jailor Role

    Thread Author:Serena

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    ►►Re: Nerf Jailor Role◄◄

    Jailors are a town's last line of defense against anarchy and outright evil.
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    ►►Re: Intentionally rigged roles in saves◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Varcron View Post
    This basically makes the veteran unkillable, self confirmable, and straight up impossible to take on unless you manage to take out the town around him (and if he has that knowledge you're already messed)
    Veterans can die. They can be lynched, they can be jailed and executed by both failors and interrogators alike. They can not alert. These are all things I've seen happen to Vets in my save.

    Quote Originally Posted by Varcron View Post
    I can call myself pretty versed in the game, and I'm not sure how well I would fare against a good vet player with unlimited alerts as evil. For a novice it would be downright impossible even with luck going their way.
    A good player doesn't attack a confirmed veteran at any point in the game, unless there are 3 veteran deaths that are attributed to the veteran in question and you've read the role card and know how many alerts the veteran has. It is typical for evils to avoid the veteran entirely, until the end of the game. Assuming the veteran chooses to lead town, it's smarter to diminish the veteran's sway over town by eliminating those who would vote with him.

    I think you and a lot of people in here are making a mistake by implying that it is normal for a town to play smart. Most people aren't smart. I have played literally thousands of games and it is a rare thing to see a town in sync and focused on clearing out evils. "All town has to do is x,y,z and it would be impossible for evils to ever win". Well, town hardly ever does x,y,z. Instead, they random lynch, or force several people to reveal their roles on the stand so Triad knows exactly who to kill first. Vigilantes shoot silent un-revealed Marshalls. Jailors execute Bodyguards. People play drunk and high, and don't bother to write last wills, or properly defend themselves on the stand.

    There is a reason why evils won in the game the OP is talking about.
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    ►►Re: Your Game has a Real Racism Problem◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Wildcat View Post
    Was in a game and i am fairly new and a user called Ching Chong Chang was in the lobby and i am Asian so i was calling out he was racist but he was jailor and so he jailed me and killed me automatically, he then continued to kill confirmed town peoples.
    It's unfortunate, but there really isn't anything that can be done about that. It's a Jailor's prerogative to decide who to jail and who to execute. Unless he knew you were town because you were in some way confirmed, then griefing is off the table.

    The name is offensive, but the name alone wouldn't really be reason enough to punish a person. For that, I imagine the name would have to be a racial slur. However, if the name is racial such as "Ching Chong Chang", and the player continues to make racially charged statements. One could assume there is intent for race-based griefing, and you might be able to get them on that.
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    ►►Re: Intentionally rigged roles in saves◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by ikarusdk View Post
    I believe it should be removed, as there is no counter play to this. We only won that game because evils were lucky and towns weren't very responsive. But I can just imagine how one sided it would be otherwise.
    It's called not targeting the veteran. That's how you win. Mafia wins ties. Mafia can have an interro kill him. Mafia can have a Judge kill him. And if I'm not mistaken, the veteran killed more towns than evils did in that game.
  21. Forum:Mafia Bug Archive

    Thread:Role Request

    Thread Author:AntiMatter

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    ►►Re: Role Request◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Serena View Post
    Veliaire I did it! I made the sk save. it has 3 neutral benings and 1 neutral evil. will you play with me later tonight?
    I'm up for it. You host, I'll play.
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    ►►Re: Intentionally rigged roles in saves◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Unlimited alert veteran is at best, not bright. Trolly
    To a novice, anything that takes them out of their comfort zone is "trolly". An experienced player should be able to adapt without mewling about it.
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    ►►Re: Intentionally rigged roles in saves◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Serena View Post
    you would have to prove they know them and that they are trolls lolz
    I'm asking just in case this guy tries to pull that crap on me.
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    ►►Re: Intentionally rigged roles in saves◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    I am not at all shocked it is you apparently with this save and prefer behavior.
    Well when you play as many games as I do, someone is bound to complain about your save. I've hosted dozens of saves and this is the first time I've ever gotten a complaint about Veteran. Usually, it's the 100% jailor that people complain about.
  25. Forum:Mafia Bug Archive

    Thread:Role Request

    Thread Author:AntiMatter

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    ►►Re: Role Request◄◄

    I'm confused as to how this would work exactly. An investigator checks you at night, what would he find? What does a role do during the day except talk and vote? If your other half can't do anything during the day, wouldn't he be found out just by counting votes? If one of you gets lynched, do both of you lose? What is the win condition?
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    ►►Re: Intentionally rigged roles in saves◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    it's in a grey area. Griefing charge is sometimes applied for repeatedly hosting egregiously troll saves.
    What of people who join a lobby hosted by someone with a save they know they don't like, only to leave and start a new lobby as soon as the game starts? Is that a reportable griefing offense?
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    ►►Re: Intentionally rigged roles in saves◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Serena View Post
    "Grace" is an angry bitch and she's just mad that we defeated her, me and my mafia team lolz.
    Haters are gonna hate! Lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Serena View Post
    I enjoy mysterious saves that you never know what it will be like. Also the double serial killer save is fun because sometimes I get serial killer, hey!
    Same here. I love 8331s that have 2 random triad and 3 random neutral, where the neutrals have no restrictions. You never know what you're going to get and that makes things much more fun.

    Quote Originally Posted by Serena View Post
    I should actually hop on mafia right now and recreate that save!!!!!! I wanna play it again tonight.
    You should! I'd be up for playing that save.
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    ►►Re: Intentionally rigged roles in saves◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Serena View Post
    I like the double serial killer saves. Whoever made that lobby kudos. It's been one of my favorite lobbies to play so far in sc2mafia. Also I got to play as mafia and my team won when "Grace" was defeated. lolz
    I love saves that break from 8331. I used to have a save where it was town vs neutrals, but I would get so much grief from people who are obsessed with 8331 that I conformed. I love it when someone hosts a unique save like the one you mentioned. It makes things more exciting and forces you to think differently instead of relying on routine and predictability like a crutch.
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    ►►Re: Intentionally rigged roles in saves◄◄

    Just to give some context, I didn't even create the lobby of the game he's talking about. Someone else had, and the host asked if anyone had a save. Nobody responded so I did. In my save, the chance for a veteran to spawn is low. I have hosted dozens of saves with my current set up and only have seen a veteran spawn a handful of times. Everyone knows I like Jailors much more so for this guy to say I am preferring Veterans is a complete joke.

    The save originally contained a 2 alert veteran and an unlimited execution jailor with a 100% spawn rate, but I got too much push back on that, so I reduced the jailor to 3 executions and made the vet have unlimited alerts. The vet spawn rate was reduced so that their occurrence would be rare.
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    ►►Re: Intentionally rigged roles in saves◄◄

    Are you still crying about this? I will be sure to make sure I give Jailors unlimited executions, just for you. If you don't like it then make your own lobby.

    For anyone who cares, Town actually lost the game the OP is talking about. So evidently, it's not impossible for evils to win in a save with an unlimited alerts Veteran. Why he is still complaining 4 days after the fact is beyond me.
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    {Watch List} ►►jont 1-S2-1-1009638 | PetyrBaelish 1-S2-1-8382670◄◄

    Account Name: jont
    Account ID: 1-S2-1-1009638
    In-Game Name: Nigger Jamal

    Account Name: PetyrBaelish
    Account ID: 1-S2-1-8382670
    In-Game Name: [Nigger] Veliaire

    Crimes Committed: Griefing(Racism)

    Your Account Name: Veliaire
    Summary: Both these players use racist names and used racist language in chat.

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    PetyrBaelish seems to be targeting me with racism because he has used that racist names in several games, even after being warned not to.

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    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

    -Veliaire
  32. Forum:Mafia Bug Archive

    Thread:Upcoming 2.0 Spy Changes

    Thread Author:Frinckles

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    ►►Re: Upcoming 2.0 Spy Changes◄◄

    I will say this. It will be nice to be able to communicate findings as a vanguard or administrator, without fear of spy finding out and alerting town of those roles.
  33. Forum:Mafia Bug Archive

    Thread:New Role Idea: Escape Artist

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    ►►Re: New Role Idea: Escape Artist◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    Yes.
    Fair enough, but I think that its better to give a role more options to eliminate undesirable results than to eliminate a job out right. Given the strong push back I've been given for the pro 8331 crowd, perhaps an option can be added to the Escape Artist for them not to know the identities of the members of the group he or she infiltrates.
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    ►►Re: Should Honest Men, reveal their roles to Jailor?◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocist View Post
    when apo used to play, she would never truthfully reveal their role to anyone except for jailors or PMs
    Somehow this doesn't surprise me. You are wise to always reveal your role to a jailor while in jail, but it is never a good idea not to reveal to a confirmed role, when asked-- given there is no town government currently leading town. If you question whether or not the role is truly confirmed, raise suspicions to the town. If you are not going to PM then expect to be jailed and executed or shot by a vigilante.
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    ►►Re: Should Honest Men, reveal their roles to Jailor?◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    If jailors can execute n1. Vigilantes should also be allowed.

    Equal rights for all murderers!
    I dont know about other jailors but I only execute after an interrogation of my prisoner, and I am certain they need to be executed. A vigilante is unable to justify a n1 shooting because they have no reason to shoot.
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    {Watch List} ►►MassDerbater 1-S2-1-11771482◄◄

    Account Name: MassDerbater
    Account ID: 1-S2-1-11771482
    In-Game Name: Notorious KKK

    Crimes Committed: Griefing(Racism)

    Your Account Name: Veliaire
    Summary: This person used the N word frequently and offended people so much that he caused both the DH and Vig to shoot him the same night. I personally believe that this is a smurf, given his number of games played and how he came out of the woodworks with strong racism, but I have no evidence of it. I'd recommend he be banned, but I know you guys like to give out warnings first, so I'll keep an eye open for more offenses.

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  37. Forum:Mafia Bug Archive

    Thread:New Role Idea: Escape Artist

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    ►►Re: New Role Idea: Escape Artist◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    I am awfully hung up on the fact that this role completely breaks the faction the game is named after, yes.
    There's nothing more boring than the same old saves day in and day out. The monotony. The predictability. Mixing things up won't break any factions. Think outside the 8331 box. There's nothing that says all saves must have 3 or more mafia/triad especially since there are so many neutral roles.
  38. Forum:Mafia Bug Archive

    Thread:New Role Idea: Escape Artist

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    ►►Re: New Role Idea: Escape Artist◄◄

    You seem to be awfully hung up on what the role would mean for Mafia/Triad in an 8331 setup. I'll say it again, new and interesting roles shouldn't be sacrificed to protect a certain set-up. I for one would love to play something different and not be forced into the same set-up forever.

    Playing it safe and sterile always makes for the most boring experiences.
  39. Forum:Mafia Bug Archive

    Thread:New Role Idea: Escape Artist

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    ►►Re: New Role Idea: Escape Artist◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    I don't think it's ever a good idea to include a role that can irreparably ruin the game for mafia on a high roll. You have to consider the best and worst cases when you make a role. At best, this is a jester that can enter a town core or become a kingmaker after completing his objective. At worst, this role wins and then outs the entire mafia team to end the game faster. I don't see the appeal.
    And yet it can't do more damage than a Judge at its worse, who can take out all evils on one -lynch. Should we remove Judge from the game now because of that rare possibility?
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    {Permanently Banned} ►►Re: WEWUZKANGZ 1-S2-1-10371102◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Kangz View Post
    I will not be stopped and other players will not be stopped. I PROMISE im a more competent player than this human being veliaire if you can even call something so feeble a human being to begin with.
    You were stopped, by me. You will always be stopped by me. I say that to you not to rub salt into your wounds, but to save you the time of trying to beat me because that will never happen. I will always be there to report you, no matter what smurf slithers into a lobby.
  41. Forum:Mafia Bug Archive

    Thread:Role Request

    Thread Author:AntiMatter

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    ►►Re: Role Request◄◄

    I think we're all town during the day ;)
  42. Forum:Mafia Bug Archive

    Thread:New Role Idea: Escape Artist

    Thread Author:Veliaire

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    ►►Re: New Role Idea: Escape Artist◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    I'm always surprised to see an arcade player suggest a role that can potentially know the identities of the mafia without being aligned with the mafia. There is absolutely nothing stopping this role from replacing into mafia and revealing all of their names and roles since the escape artist doesn't have to stay alive.

    This forces the mafia to waste a night killing (and cleaning) the artist rather than furthering their own win condition, all because they were randomly punished for lynching someone. To that extent this role is a far more destructive equivalent of the jester.

    It's never fun to be outed by a hacker or a thrower. This wouldn't feel any different. In its current state it's not fun.
    Yes, it will be more challenging for the Mafia with an Escape Artist in the game and might cause them to adjust their gameplay and think on their feet.

    The stars would need to align to be as you say. In a traditional 8-3-3-1, the Escape Artist would need to be lynched during the first couple of nights to do irreparable damage to the Mafia, and that's assuming they can convince town-- all assuming the Escape Artist is a troll who would want to do that to begin with. But lets say that the low chance of that happening would be too much for a person to take. Perhaps then, instead of accommodating the 8-3-3-1 save, a new standard could be explored? Perhaps a save where there are only 2 mafia?

    The whole idea with this role is to get people to think differently and play differently. Maybe its time the 8-3-3-1 shared the spotlight with another type of save. Mix things up and make things interesting?
  43. Forum:Mafia Bug Archive

    Thread:New Role Idea: Escape Artist

    Thread Author:Veliaire

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    ►►Re: New Role Idea: Escape Artist◄◄

    Imagine for a moment that a Marshall reveals himself. This is a Jester's dream come true, but it would be an Escape Artist's nightmare. Situations like these should lead to completely different gameplay from those two roles. You don't want to straight up offer fake leads before you know what the gov will be because that will determine how you will proceed. This role requires you to think differently.
  44. Forum:Mafia Bug Archive

    Thread:New Role Idea: Escape Artist

    Thread Author:Veliaire

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    ►►Re: New Role Idea: Escape Artist◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Loldebite View Post
    I dont understand how the EA wins : does he win when he gets lynched, and then replaces one of the guiltiers ?
    The Escape Artist wins by replacing someone. So the goal isn't just to get lynched. It's to get lynched in a way that gives you that win condition. Being courted or being part of a group execution will not give you the win condition.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loldebite View Post
    That looks like a bad idea IMO, since then you basically have a jester that still lives after winning, ie an even more troll executionner.

    What makes this role different from an Executioner is that town will know for certain that they lynched an Escape Artist, so trolling after the fact won't really be an issue. The Escape Artist will need to tread carefully. If he plays the obvious Jester then town won't lynch. If he plays a convincing town role, he might get courted.
  45. Forum:Mafia Bug Archive

    Thread:New Role Idea: Escape Artist

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    ►►New Role Idea: Escape Artist◄◄

    Escape Artist (Neutral Benign)
    Crimes: Identity Theft


    This role will have a passive ability like Jester or Executioner. The win condition will be to replace a person who lynched you. Instead of there being an execution sequence, there will be an escape sequence and one of the guilty voters will be switched with the Escape Artist. The role that appears to the town after the lynching will be the role of the person who was replaced. If the Escape Artist is lynched during a group execution, the win condition will not be met because they will be unable to escape.

    The Escape Artist will be a unique role, with only 1 allowed per lobby. Like the Disguiser, the Escape Artist will be unable to copy the role of the person that is replaced. The Escape Artist will be able to infiltrate any group with a night chat, but the group will immediately know that you are an impostor because the role will appear as "Escape Artist". If the Escape Artist replaces a GF, a mafioso will be created from one of the remaining members. Mafia/Triad will be able to target and kill the Escape Artist. However, an Escape Artist will kill any disguiser/informant that targets him.

    The Escape Artist can be night immune and/or immune to conversion depending on the settings.
  46. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Selective Punishment

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    This isn't about me or my history with other players here, or about whatever JagdPanther may have done in the past and his history with other players here. Please stop making it personal. This post is about selective punishment. Whether or not something will be done is up to you. Just look at the comments I've gotten so far. I will say this, at least Voss tried to see things from my perspective and wasn't 100% dismissive after hearing me out, and I genuinely appreciate that. From others in a position to actually do something, all I have gotten are excuses and passive aggressive comments. I've been told I am having a melt down. I have been accused of harassment. My concerns have been dismissed as "baseless" and "nonsensical". It's all good because all it does is confirm what I already suspected in the first place.

    Someone asked what I hope to get out of this. What's my end goal. That would be up to you to decide. If all you do is acknowledge your implicit and explicit biases, then that would be a win for the community.

    And no, I don't want anyone removed as a mod. Why would they remove an unpaid volunteer for doing an incomplete job? It's still half the job done for free.
  47. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Selective Punishment

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    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Ok I see the issue. Sarcasm doesn’t come across well through text and you don’t know mostache well. That’s his standard response to someone attacking him for no reason - sarcastically agree. Maybe that’s not the most professional thing to do but this is a volunteer position and it’s extremely draining dealing with baseless nonsensical mod abuse accusations.

    Please go back and re-read what he said to you on discord. I don’t see anything wrong with it at all. You clearly had some high emotions going and didn’t process half of what he said. Just search from mr mostache in discord.
    You have been incredibly dismissive from the very start of this. Yes, we get this is is a unpaid volunteer position that you all chose to do. That doesn't mean that people aren't allowed to voice legitimate concerns.

    This isn't an attack for no reason. This isn't a baseless mod abuse accusation. And no, I don't believe it was sarcasm when he admitted to not liking JagdPanther and then directed me to report people I don't like "too".

    Was he also being sarcastic when he told JagdPanther not to appeal? And don't bother to respond if all you're going to do is slip in another insult.
  48. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Selective Punishment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    Imagine requesting an appeal at someone's place with the sole basis of having an another person, who was not initially reported, that was not recommended a punishment.
    We are living in a strange world.
    I didn't know it was against the rules to post in a thread that you are not part of, in that section. Then the admin told me so, and I edited the comment and apologized. There's no need to even bring that up here because it's not even relevant, unless your aim is to just discredit me as a bad person or something.
  49. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Same Name Steve cheat..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    I believe this was discussed by the keepers, but if you decide to give up your anonymity you can't bitch about being targeted.
    Ahh. That's interesting, but how is it any different than targeting default names? Which I believe someone was permabanned for.

    Not asking you directly, it was a rhetorical question. It just seems to me that name targeting of any kind would be against the rules, but I guess that only applies to defaults.
  50. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Same Name Steve cheat..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    The solution is to prefer jailor and exe those idiots n1.

    If they use the same name over and over they can't accuse you of "witch hunting" them. Because they chose to give up their anonymity.
    That's name targeting and I believe that's against the rules. You can't just decide to execute someone based on their name without even hearing their claim.

    However, an argument can be made if the name you target -prefer evil roles. But if that's the case then they probably deserve to be executed for picking the same name all the time.

    So maybe you're right, but only in certain situations?
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