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    ►►Re: HMOP's Road to Banning ZZOrange◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    Actually The Capital January 6th Was A False Flag Operation And An Innocent Woman That Happened To Be A Military Veteran Was Shot And Killed For No Reason.. Im Not Buying The Fear Mongering Narrative Of Covid And The Delta Variant.. Like For Real How Obtuse Are You To Not See The Truth Right Before Your Very Eyes..
    Fuck off
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    ►►Re: HMOP's Road to Banning ZZOrange◄◄

    Get out of here alt righter.
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    ►►Re: HMOP's Road to Banning ZZOrange◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    Then Why Do BLM And Antifa Revere.. Criminals Such As George Floyed.. Also That Wasnt Directed At You.. Also Kyle Rittenhouse Is Prob Going To Prison Even Though He Was Defending Himself.. Also Ill Get As Political As I Desire.. Now That I Know It.. How Do You Say.. "Triggers" You
    Ugh.
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    ►►Re: HMOP's Road to Banning ZZOrange◄◄

    I still don't understand if Honest Main was lying about the alcohol post.
  5. ►►Re: Didn't think I was ever gonna post something like this, but AAmirus said to so here we are.◄◄

    You know I had a feeling this was fake.
  6. Forum:Narrator Discussion

    Thread:LF 5-sided classic FM setup

    Thread Author:Voss

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    ►►Re: LF 5-sided classic FM setup◄◄

    what do I win
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    Thread:Punishing Racism in Mafia

    Thread Author:Drizzt

    Post Author:Renegade

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    ►►Re: Punishing Racism in Mafia◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    It is very similar to the word "faggot". Originally faggot was a derogatory term for a gay person (and before that it meant bundle of sticks), but now it's seldom, if ever, used for an actual gay person.
    I beg to differ.
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    Thread:Punishing Racism in Mafia

    Thread Author:Drizzt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    The issue is that saying "nig**r" is not racist. Like I can't remember the last time I said that and meant a black person. I'll also be the first to come forward and say, I don't believe racism exists. Neither on the scale nor at the magnitude people think of it.
    So because you have never said it or meant it means it isn't a racist term?

    I presume your unique perspective is also how you arrive at the broad conclusion that racism doesn't exist, right? Forget the perspectives of people who actually are subjected to it, you know, racism, my perspective trumps all!

    This is a fiver

    yikes (!!!!!)
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    Thread:Punishing Racism in Mafia

    Thread Author:Drizzt

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    ►►Re: Punishing Racism in Mafia◄◄

    There's no guarantee of freeze peach in a private game. TLDR.
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    ►►Re: A Statistical Analysis of Racism Across 10,790 Replays◄◄

    This base data set is all user submitted, right? It isn't like it was regularly sampled over time, or a complete data set. So I would be careful trying to draw any conclusions comparing different time periods.
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    ►►Re: Who is the most corrupt MOD. Need help finding out.◄◄

    Ask choo iamme hacker. AKA BoxerRebellion on the forums.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 330: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Misled by malicious intent, obviously...

    That's the basic assumption behind any modkill (except for those caused by unfortunate accidents that would destroy the game) and doesn't even need to be stated lol.
    I've yet to be convinced he did anything malicious.

    Being stupid is not malicious. Doing a goofy gambit (that no one should've taken seriously) is a bad PLAY not malicious.

    Extremely heavy handed because he is new to FM. Sad!
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    ►►Re: S-FM 330: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    Since when are modkills used to "prevent town from being misled"?

    yikes (!!!!!)
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    ►►Re: S-FM 330: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Fair point. It's the manner of saying it that may lean towards toxicity imo though, not really the content. Or maybe I'm just twisting the content to make it what I wish it would be.

    I already said it was rude, so I'm not sure what you're on about. I'm talking about the "constructive introspection" part, as Voss put it, which was going down the drain along with the "everyone is shit". Again, don't confuse civility and facts. I don't approve of calling everyone shit, but I also don't approve of saying "noone made any mistakes", and I approve even less of those who say nobody should say otherwise, even in a civil manner.


    Forcing the sub-out in a situation where the slot was heavily affected by weird claims would have been very damaging and would have opened the door to angleshooting way too hard. Imagine you're town seeing ZZ force-replaced and then his replacement says "forget everything my predecessor has said, I'm just VT lol". Even if you want to avoid reading into the replacement, it will be impossible not to think that the replacement was due to trolling.

    As for warning vs modkilling, I agree that in hindsight it would have been better to warn before and modkill after if it didn't stop. That being said, I definetly wouldn't say the modkill was abusive given the circumstances, just not optimal (and probably very unpleasing for the modkilled player). And note that in some regards, the modkill better preserved game integrity than waiting longer would have, considering town would have been completely misled for a really long and significant time if the modkill hadn't happened quickly enough. So I'd just say it's a lesson for the future.
    I expect every goofy ass gambit from here on out to be modkilled then. To prevent town from being misled.

    Wtf?
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    ►►Re: S-FM 330: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Varcron View Post
    I concur that a warning should have probably been used instead of a modkill, seeing as we have had experienced players do some pretty dumb stuff that did not even get mentioned or brought up after the game in the past.
    For the record, I also thought ZZ's modkill was extreme. Also, his role was flipped in a flipless setup.

    Would it have happened if he was scum?
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    Thread:Anyone else have anxiety issues

    Thread Author:Oberon

    Post Author:Renegade

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    ►►Re: Anyone else have anxiety issues◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    Spending too much time on the Internet gives me anxiety because it prevents me from doing what I actually want to do.
    What is it you actually want to do?
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    ►►Re: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    People analyzing the fucking particle fluctuations in the quantum foam or whatever the fuck trying to find shit on D1

    I mean Day 1 is just useless spam neway and a couple guys smelling their own farts.
    +1

    Total fluke.
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    ►►Re: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    -vote Yuesford
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    ►►Re: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    Add this to the list of games where you wonder

    GOLLY GEE WHY AREN"T THERE MORE NEW FM PLAYERS.

    Elitist cultist assholes. Sorry Yues.
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    ►►Re: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    I am specifically going to make this choice for three reasons
    1. Based on Yuesfords play this game it is somehow not unrealistic for him to make a really bad kill on yagami. The kills on Mag and Blink were also really weak. Any other player and I would never consider this.
    2. Yuesford is hard tunneled on me and I know I’m town. I can’t risk the chance that Yuesford is actually the scum and ceko mistakenly hammers me.
    3. I really really don’t want to lose to Yuesford.

    -vote Yuesford


    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Like there's two avenues here Yuesford
    1. You're scum and you've almost lost an incredibly difficult to lose game by playing the endgame in literally the worst possible way. You shot blink who was hellbent on lynching two townies. You shot yagami who was likely to mislynch me.
    2. You're town and ceko is choosing to fuck with us. This means you have had garbage reads literally all game. You tunneled on yagami, who was town, you tunneled on me, who is town.

    Both avenues mean you're trash.

    For the record if you're scum I'm not holding you to the dick sucking video thing.
    What an onboxious asshole.

    Add stealth to the Zedus list of players not to sign with.
    @Yuesford you did a really good job. Fuck everyone you are the MVP
    -vote Yuesford
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    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    @Renegade it's way too late to defend yourself.

    If you're town, I'm sorry. I'll just blame my poor play on the fact this setup is flipless.
    That's what I've been saying.
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    ►►Re: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    Voting a confirmed town out of "frustration" isn't even an excuse, its a gamethrow if you are town.
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    ►►Re: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    Least I didn't vote the confirmed vigi lmfao. Why am I being lynched again?

    Treeko you condone voting blink? yikes(!!!!!)
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    ►►Re: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    15 until EOD and renegade appears to have given up which is probably a bad sign but there's nothing I can really do about it at this point. If you're not gonna put effort into the game then it's not worth putting in effort to save you.
    There is literally nothing I can say that will save me today. Nobody is even online. This day was over at 1 am when I got 4 votes total.

    I'm not going to waste energy kicking and screaming.
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    ►►Re: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    Doesn't matter what I say now. See ya'll on the flip side.
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    ►►Re: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    Bye Renegade!

    He left the thread again.
    yes, and?
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    ►►Re: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    Blink and Magoroth did not like Renegade on day 2. Both are confirmed (dead) town.

    Stealth didn’t like Renegade either on day 2, so by association Stealth is basically confirmed town.

    Also, Stealth made some insanely townie posts this game. Lynching Stealth is a big mistake.
    The first line is objectively false with Magoroth. They were town reading me for a long time. Why would I kill them?

    I'm not in the goofy cult of gambits, if someone is town reading me and I'm scum I'm not going to kill them.

    But I'm not scum. Shrug!
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    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    @Renegade the amount of sheeping you did this game is unreal.

    You’ve done nothing to convince me that you’re town. My vote stays on you for now.
    Sheeping isn't scum.

    If I think Blink had it figured out what is wrong with sheeping him?

    Oh sure I could be 'original' and go make up shit, but Blink made it all pretty clear to me.

    Good game, and I won't take any blame for the loss.
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    ►►Re: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    -vote Yuesford
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    ►►Re: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    If there is a single scum left, most likely in Light, Stealth, or Yuesford.

    Probably Yuesford or Stealth, more likely Yuesford.

    I'd vote either.
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    ►►Re: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    I’m pretty sure Stealth is confirmed town too.
    Good luck (if you are town). If you or MM are scum game is over anyway.
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    ►►Re: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Not that I think it matters.
    You're right, it doesn't, just annoying lmao. Goofy
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    ►►Re: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    I'm not going to kick and scream but I will tell you I am a mislynch.

    Sure you could argue as scum I would hard sheep blink if I felt he was going to make the wrong moves, but what became crystal clear has non devolved and scum in one way or another have taken over.

    -vote Stealthbomber16


    Good luck, probably should've followed blink, you know, confirmed town.

    ZZ and Yues are right about the goofy 'standards' of SC2mafia, play our way or die!
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    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    I'm pretty sure Renegade also gave zero shits when he got pressured on day 3. My pressure vote on him did nothing.

    This makes Renegade look like a lonely scum who doesn't play the game because his teammates Banana and Martin died.

    The only thing that gives me pause is that he was more than willing to sheep blink during day 2 EoD. I still think that only town would do that. However, I know that scum!Yuesford sheeped me during Last Hope, so maybe Renegade is a scummy sheep!
    When you announce it as a pressure vote and the rest of the game is focused on other people, who the hell cares?
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    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    Renegade gave zero fucks that he got voted up so quickly.

    He probably gave up since he's the last scum.
    I haven't checked the thread since you and light and mm voted me.

    Bad scumpaint, stale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    I can buy that from you. I can't buy that from Renegade.
    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    LMFAO you're so right.
    What a joke, lmfao. Light has been playing FM long before I ever did.

    Never did I hear of the term "VT" until this game, at least abbreviated as such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Checked my role PM again and it says I'm a VT

    /shrug
    I actually buy this.

    When I got my role I was confused at what VT was and got nervous because I thought it was VigilanTe or something.
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    ►►Re: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    I meant
    -unvote
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    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    @Stealthbomber16 why did you call yourself a "VT" instead of citizen?
    Good question.
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    [unvote][unvote]

    Hmmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Would love to see you address my above post renegade
    Yeah I will I'm distracted, and since everyone took a 12 hour break I mind as well too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Lmfao and treeko gonna fall for it hook line and sinker.

    @Blink don't say I didn't try.
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    ►►Re: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    If Banana is scum then Renegade is his teammate.

    -vote Renegade
    I wish.

    Banana and I were teamed the first game I played here, good times.
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    ►►Re: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    I'm waiting for more from Treeko.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    Right And As Much As Some Scum Like To Be In Top Post Some Like To Hang Back And Not Say Much.
    I don't disagree. But that was where this game was going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    Although Before The Day 3 Shenanigan's Blink Was Scum Reading Renegade
    Sure he was, but it was because I wasn't a spam poster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    About Light, I wouldn't lynch him today. I'd rather lynch Stealth first and then see about Light if the game didn't straight up end in a town victory yet.

    Stealth, you have some work to do if you're town (and if you're scum as well, but I won't be too sad if you just let yourself die :P)
    +1
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    Look at this desperation. Any mislynch he can get.

    This was the plan when they killed blink.

    The only shot they had to win.
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