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  1. Forum:Mafia 2.0 Public Test

    Thread:General Beta Feedback

    Thread Author:lawson

    Post Author:Frinckles

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    ►►Re: General Beta Feedback◄◄

    What I was talking about was making another account to avoid receiving 30 private messages from random people when I join a game, that's not an uncommon thing to do. Only a few people posts bugs/feedback/suggestions to their proper places so they assume I'll remember them if they're whispered to me in-game or something.
  2. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:?KRC Welcome to the Loony Toon World

    Thread Author:Mike

    Post Author:Frinckles

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    ►►Re: ?KRC Welcome to the Loony Toon World◄◄

    had fun observing. ggwp
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    ►►Re: You guys seriously don't even fucking try◄◄

    and nobody will be the wiser
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    ►►You guys seriously don't even fucking try◄◄

    Rapper's Delight
    Song by The Sugarhill Gang
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    I said-a hip, hop, the hippie, the hippie
    To the hip hip hop-a you don't stop the rock
    It to the bang-bang boogie, say up jump the boogie
    To the rhythm of the boogie, the beat
    Now what you hear is not a test: I'm rappin' to the beat
    And me, the groove, and my friends are gonna try to move your feet
    See, I am Wonder Mike, and I'd like to say hello
    To the black, to the white, the red
    And the brown, the purple and yellow
    But first I gotta bang bang the boogie to the boogie
    Say up jump the boogie to the bang bang boogie
    Let's rock, you don't stop
    Rock the riddle that will make your body rock
    Well, so far you've heard my voice, but I brought two friends along
    And next on the mike is my man Hank, come on Hank, sing that song
    Check it out, I'm the C-A-S-AN, the O-V-A and the rest is F-L-Y
    You see, I go by the code of the doctor of the mix and these reasons I'll tell you why
    You see I'm six foot one and I'm tons of fun and I dress to a D
    You see I got more clothes than Muhammad Ali and I dress so viciously
    I got bodyguards, I got two big cars, that definitely ain't the whack
    I got a Lincoln continental and a sunroof Cadillac
    So after school, I take a dip in the pool, which is really on the wall
    I got a color TV so I can see the Knicks play basketball
    Hear me talking 'bout checkbooks, credit cards, more money than a sucker could ever spend
    But I wouldn't give a sucker or a bum from the Rucker, not a dime 'til I made it again
    Everybody go: Hotel, motel, whatcha gonna do today (Say what?)
    'Cause I'ma get a fly girl, gonna get some spank and drive off in a def OJ
    Everybody go: Hotel, motel, Holiday Inn
    You see, if your girl starts acting up, then you take her friend
    Uh Master Gee, my mellow?
    It's on you so what you gonna do?
    Well it's on and on and on, on and on
    The beat don't stop until the break of dawn
    I said a M-A-S, a T-E-R, a G with a double E
    I said I go by the unforgettable name of the man they call the Master Gee
    Well, my name is known all over the world
    By all the foxy ladies and the pretty girls
    I'm going down in history
    As the baddest rapper there ever could be
    Now I'm feeling the highs and you're feeling the lows
    The beat starts getting into your toes
    You start popping your fingers and stomping your feet
    And moving your body while you're sitting in your seat
    And then damn, you start doing the freak
    I said damn, right outta your seat
    Then you throw your hands high in the air
    You're rocking to the rhythm, shake your derriere
    Ya rockin' to the beat without a care
    With the sureshot MCs for the affair
    Now, I'm not as tall as the rest of the gang
    But I rap to the beat just the same
    I got a little face, and a pair of brown eyes
    All I'm here to do, ladies, is hypnotize
    Singing on an' an' on an' on, on an' on
    The beat don't stop until the break of dawn
    Singing on an' an' on an' on, on an' on
    Like a hot party the pop the pop the pop dibbie dibbie
    Pop the pop, pop, you don't dare stop
    Come alive y'all, gimme whatcha got
    I guess by now you can take a hunch
    And find that I am the baby of the bunch
    But that's okay, I still keep in stride
    'Cos all I'm here to do is just wiggle your behind
    Singin' on'n'n'on'n'on n'on
    The beat don't stop until the break of dawn
    Singin' on'n'n'on'n'on on'n'on
    Rock rock, y'all, throw it on the floor
    I'm gonna freak ya here I'm gonna freak you there
    I'm gonna move you outta this atmosphere
    'Cos I'm one of a kind and I'll shock your mind
    I'll put TNT tickin' in your behind
    I said one, two, three, four, come on, girls, get on the floor
    A-come alive, y'all, a-gimme whatcha got
    'Cos I'm guaranteed to make you rock
    I said one, two, three, four, tell me, Wonder Mike
    What are you waiting for?
    I said a hip hop the hippie to the hippie
    To the hip hip hop and you don't stop
    The rock it to the bang bang the boogie
    Say up jump the boogie, dig the rhythm of the boogie, the beat
    Skiddlee beebop a we rock a scooby doo
    And guess what, America: we love you
    'Cause ya rock and ya roll with so much soul
    You could rock 'til you're a hundred and one years old
    I don't mean to brag I don't mean to boast
    But we like hot butter on a breakfast toast
    Rock it up, uh, baby bubbah
    Baby bubbah to the boogie the bang bang the boogie
    To the beat beat, it's so unique
    Come on, everybody, and dance to the beat
    A hip hop the hippie the hippie
    To the hip hip hop and you don't stop
    The rock it out baby boppa to the boogity bang bang
    Boogie to the boogie, the beat
    I said I can't wait 'til the end of the week
    When I'm rappin' to the rhythm of a groovy beat
    An attempt to raise your body heat
    Just blow your mind so that you can't speak
    To do a thing but a rock and shuffle your feet
    And let it change up to a dance called the freak
    And when ya finally do come into your rhythmic beat
    Rest a little while so ya don't get weak
    I know a man named Hank
    He has more rhymes than a serious bank
    So come on Hank, uh, sing that song
    To the rhythm of the boogie the bang bang the bong
    Well, I'm imp the dimp, the ladies pimp
    The women fight for my delight
    But I'm the grandmaster with the three MCs
    That shock the house for the young ladies
    And when you
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    ►►Re: S-FM 330: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Why does everyone forget that you can have admins manually input rep for you by using the little triangle with an exclamation point?
    Didn't work
  6. Forum:Mafia 2.0 Public Test

    Thread:Upcoming 2.0 Spy Changes

    Thread Author:Frinckles

    Post Author:Frinckles

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    ►►Upcoming 2.0 Spy Changes◄◄

    We've been talking about Spy and Investigator being two roles that we were considering changing for some time. They are two roles that have gone through more drastic and meta-defining changes than any other so a post felt necessary. While investigator is still pretty much the same (except witchcraft crime ), Spy will be different now so I wanted to clarify what changed exactly and why.

    The changes:

    Removed:
    Spy can read Mafia/Triad Chat
    Added:
    Spy has immunity to the first Mafia/Triad Hitman attack.
    Kept:
    Option 1: Can see all Mafia/Triad targets
    Option 2: Can see Mafia/Triad kill

    One or both options may be permanently moved to the role.

    The problems

    The game of Mafia has always been about the uninformed majority vs. the informed minority. While the Mafia/Triad may know who their partners are, the threat of a Spy even existing is a large enough to make communication in that channel uncommon, non-useful or non-existent. Even the 'upsides' of trying to confuse a Spy by planting fake information or imitating another player's grammar often do little, assuming the Spy is in the game.

    The current solution:

    Replace it. It was a passive ability that contradicted the entire point of Mafia's chat channel. As a Spy, you'd likely hear nothing. As Mafia/Triad you'd probably say nothing. So for now it's been replaced with a different passive ability: a one-time specific immunity.



    How does this help Spy?

    Thematically, the Spy has been the a role that surveils Mafia/Triad so giving it some built in 'Intel' on how to avoid being killed once makes some sense. The ability as a Town member to outright stop a Mafia/Triad Factional kill is pretty powerful and that was the first concern brought up so we'll continue to keep an eye on it. But you can start baiting Mafia kills and they can keep claiming Spy!

    What it does work on: Godfather/Dragonhead or Mafioso/Enforcer doing their normal Mafia kill. It will not be used up if you are wearing a vest from an Armorsmith and are attacked.
    What it does not work on: Interrogators, Disguisers, SK, MM, being witched into a Veteran, killing yourself over a Jester or an Executioner who just got you lynched. Being attacked by Mafia and Triad Hitmen on the same night.
    Fun Fact: You receive feedback relative to your attacker "The Mafia/Triad tried killing you last night etc." but they only get the standard "Your target survived your attack!" message they normally would against a night immune target. Could give Spy a little more power in setups with both gang factions.


    How does this help Mafia?

    Obviously, communication helps the Mafia/Triad. It helps to know what role your Actress will flip as if she dies; It helps to know if your Framer got annoyed by a Jester; And it really helps sorting out what your partners will claim to the Marshall with 4 lynches BEFORE he gets 6 Doctor claims. Even better, it opens up some creative teamwork and interesting uses for "Can target Mafia/Triad" options on roles like Beguiler, Kidnapper and Actress.

    What about alternatives?

    Sure, nothing is written in stone as far as 2.0 goes yet. Bugging houses, reading Private Messages, the Spy has done it all and I'm not sure what the perfect solution is if it exists. This solution just seems reasonable and small enough in scope that I don't have to work extensively on it while the rest of the project gets finished. It should be available sometime tomorrow (7/7/2021) to try out; In a sense this post is more of a heads-up to the community of players who hops into those guys. But if you have strong feelings one way or another or just want to discuss alternatives, feel free to do it here.




    (regular disclaimers blah blah blah)
  7. Forum:Research and Development

    Thread:Silent Night roles

    Thread Author:aamirus

    Post Author:Frinckles

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    [New Role] ►►Re: Silent Night roles◄◄

    Roles like Justice will need to hold off for a little bit but I could see an update with Lover+Heartbreaker/(Swinger?*)

    As for Guardian Angel, that's a popular role that acts differently in every game so we'd have to see what iteration it was.
  8. Forum:Mafia 2.0 Public Test

    Thread:Add more smith-type roles

    Thread Author:Oberon

    Post Author:Frinckles

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    [Miscellaneous Feedback] ►►Re: Add more smith-type roles◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by LagAttack View Post
    Basically this, being able to self-confirm is a very strong ability on its own.

    A role which can give out an item that does nothing is already stronger than half of the town-roles. Speaking of which, what if there were a role that could give out an item that does nothing? Like a fruit-smith?
    Good idea.
  9. Forum:Mafia 2.0 Public Test

    Thread:Poisoner Details

    Thread Author:SuperJack

    Post Author:Frinckles

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    [Poisoner] ►►Re: Poisoner Details◄◄

    It's a butter serial killer.
  10. Forum:Mafia 2.0 Public Test

    Thread:Poisoner Details

    Thread Author:SuperJack

    Post Author:Frinckles

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    [Poisoner] ►►Re: Poisoner Details◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Yeah, it's a delayed Serial Killer. I don't even know why it exists.
    It's not.
  11. Forum:Mafia 2.0 Public Test

    Thread:Doesn't give vests

    Thread Author:BankHacker

    Post Author:Frinckles

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    [Armorsmith] ►►Re: Doesn't give vests◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by MrMostache View Post
    Necro'd.

    Feedback is still not displaying correctly.
    Is it the same issue or related to feedback specifically? You can just make a separate thread moostache. Are people actually getting their vests?
  12. ►►Re: Critical Race Theory (CRT) and it's place in American race-relations.◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    So it took me a very long time to really dig into this subject and I kinda have split feelings on it. I do feel that raising awareness against discrimination is a very positive thing as well as spreading understanding, consideration, and tolerance for cultures and their predominate races which seems to be the overall objective of this 'practice.' So for the concept and what is trying to be accomplished I feel like its a good thing that could be implemented into education to tear down bias and promote equality.

    At the same time though its implementation feels very racist to me. The majority of the speakers I saw giving talks on the subject seemed to promote a narrative of 'White people are ignorant, hateful, and racist' followed by arguments that entangle socio-economic status with racism (inappropriately). The latter is totally a thing but its one hell of a complicated subject I dont want to poke here.

    This line of thinking I believe is a form of racism in itself I have been seeing spread around media. I had a conversation a week or two back about John Oliver on the subject. He seems to push the same narrative attributing all inequality and hate twards white people and even has started throwing the statement "Fucking white people" into his shows (The last statement in his bit on African American Hair and midway though his recent piece on Asians.) The people I talked about it with took the conversation a little sideways (and one of them reacted saying "White people can take it") but my point was that if you swapped out 'White' with any other race people would loose their minds. Its an overt attempt to spread a very derogatory racial stereotype and then flatly pushing an unambiguous racial statement that speaks to an effort to 'shift hate' instead of eliminating it.

    I bring this up simply because this is what I see CRT being used to do. I feel like the concept is good but its being used for evil in a sense. The objective should not be to focus blame and justify a new and acceptable form of racism. Its been very interesting to me how blatant these racist arguments are and how difficult it has been to even talk about them.

    All that said, I do not feel society can handle CRT appropriately yet and I think a portion of how society is discussing racism in general is creating a very toxic and racist narrative. Hate can not be cured with more hate and it was mildly upsetting to me seeing how many educated scholars on the subject were spreading such a toxic message under the guise of pushing for acceptance and equality.

    A part of me is very curious to hear what some of you think about that message being pushed or how to even approach talking about it.
    Everything I wrote went poof when I had to relog. x_x give me some time sorry
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    ►►Re: S-FM 329 Wilder Wilder Wastelander (Postgame)◄◄

    inb4 this was fancy play syndrome
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    ►►Re: S-FM 329 Wilder Wilder Wastelander (Postgame)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by PQRnHack View Post
    Report @Frinckles for reducing win chances from 50% to 0%
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    ►►Re: S-FM 329 Wilder Wilder Wastelander (Postgame)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Man, how exhausting. I don't think I have the energy to host another game for another 4 months.
    No cohost for this setup was surprising. Poor aivion must feel left out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    In theory it works. Increases towns odds from 33% to 50%. Legitimately the best thing you could've done in the situation.

    Unfortunately Ozy wasn't here in time.
    It would be one hell of a play for all alignments I think. Let town know you're town; Let townies shoot eachother as Mafia; Get shot or let everyone shoot eachother for memes as jester.

    Not wagering this setup gets to f3 all the time though.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 329 Wilder Wilder Wastelander (Postgame)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post
    LOL
    I played a dangerous game.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 329 Wilder Wilder Wastelander (Day 2)◄◄

    rip to ozys timezone
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    ►►Re: S-FM 329 Wilder Wilder Wastelander (Day 2)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by EliThePsycho View Post
    because i was mafia
    smh
    also i immediately realized
    "wow i should have hammered the one who was actually in thread"
    I didn't want to hammer because I could infer to the town that I was town but you were faster. Would be a cool jester play too.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 329 Wilder Wilder Wastelander (Day 2)◄◄

    Well if I was scum I'd win here. But instead of a 50/50 I'll let you two duke it out. Whoever is scum or town can kill the other player to win.
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    [New Role] ►►Re: Delegator (Neutral Benign)◄◄

    So they find out that they were a worker the day they revert to thier original role?
    What if a player decided to take no action?
  23. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:gig talk

    Thread Author:rumox

    Post Author:Frinckles

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    ►►Re: gig talk◄◄

    I have tickets for Hall & Oates from pre-covid that are scheduled in September now. Hope it happens this time. :P
  24. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 327 : Last Hope

    Thread Author:Auwt

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    ►►Re: S-FM 327 : Last Hope◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by CRichardForumLies View Post
    Oh gg and you guys are alright.
    I can see myself in another game here in time.
    You should.
  25. ►►Re: Ye atheists by name, lend an ear, lend an ear◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Certified banana moment. 2 posts in to coming back and the topic immediately shifts to satanism
    He's right though. And frankly, I'm tired of the Pagan Wicca girls at my local mall wearing Nirvana shirts.
  26. ►►Re: Ye atheists by name, lend an ear, lend an ear◄◄

    Why can't we shit on Taoism or Buddhism for a change? I don't want to be reincarnated, sounds dumb.
  27. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)

    Thread Author:OzyWho

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    ►►Re: S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    I hope you'll change your ways after this game. This is not good town play. It's worse than what Frinckles did.
    Oh and since I'm in control of this slot, I can say with impunity that Frinckles did no wrong. gg
  28. Forum:Serious Discussion & Debate

    Thread:Stress cures

    Thread Author:OzyWho

    Post Author:Frinckles

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    ►►Re: Stress cures◄◄

    Oh, tonglen in a breathing excercise. well there you go sorry im half awake
  29. Forum:Serious Discussion & Debate

    Thread:Stress cures

    Thread Author:OzyWho

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    ►►Re: Stress cures◄◄

    Breathing exercises like square breathing help; Look into research on the Vagus Nerve -- They're used extensively in different therapies and in some militaries. Will do fuck all for underlying causes such as depression, insomnia etc. but it helps get it away long enough for the melatonin to kick in.

    Other than coping with it, try eliminating direct or supplemental causes of the stress. Sometimes we can handle a lot but one or two things can push us over.

    Don't be afraid to be happy.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 329* Wilder Wilder Wastelander ('10'P)◄◄

    /sign

    Just started playing RDR2. Lol
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    ►►Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)◄◄

    May reserve here if my schedule allows.
  32. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)

    Thread Author:OzyWho

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    ►►Re: S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)◄◄

    All I did was look at the votes lol
  33. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)

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  34. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)

    Thread Author:OzyWho

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    ►►Re: S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)◄◄

    Anyway yeah unless I'm missing something and an F3 isn't possible I'm not sure what your intention was with that statement. No comments on Varcron?
  35. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)

    Thread Author:OzyWho

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    ►►Re: S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    Well what could I say, except congrats to the one who bussed Varcron?
    Town!Auwt could say a lot. Since now you know one of me/PQR is town you could help Ceko figure out which one. I mean after everything that's come out of your slot there is no way you expected to make it to an F3, you would be ripped in half by VCA alone.

    Besides, it's not like I'm oblivious to how people act before a lynch or while entering an F3. I have to weigh whether the below statement is genuine paranoia or if it's placed conveniently at the end of the day to be referenced tomorrow.

    Quote Originally Posted by PQRnHack View Post
    There is a tiny chance scum!Frinckles made a mastermind bussing play and we're lynching town!Auwt but those odds are tiny.
    At the same time, I'm not going to be gung-ho about scumreading PQR just because that's a possibility especially when you're still alive. Not to mention he just hasn't been super scummy lol
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    ►►Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)◄◄

    This doesn't count as ladder does it? feels like it's been a month or so since we had one.
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    ►►Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    /in
    on the assumption that this will take at least a month to fill :P
    Throwing shade at silent night :[
  38. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)

    Thread Author:OzyWho

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    ►►Re: S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)◄◄

    PERHAPS IT IS YOU WHO IS THE MASTERMIND PQR

    -vote auwt
  39. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)

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    ►►Re: S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by PQRnHack View Post
    Aye nice Easter egg by Ozy here
    I dont get it
  40. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)

    Thread Author:OzyWho

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    ►►Re: S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)◄◄

    Because fmpov there is no way you two are a team. If so, congrats well deserved.
  41. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)

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    ►►Re: S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)◄◄

    Case and point, Varcron dies.
  42. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)

    Thread Author:OzyWho

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    ►►Re: S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by PQRnHack View Post
    If @Awut means the team of Frinckles+PQR, that is exactly the fake scum pairing mafia want Ceko to believe. Both Frinkles and I know that it cannot be possible, but Ceko does not know. But why would we, LTCs, ever "suggest: such a false pairing? get outtta here
    Well to be fair, you could be fucking me here but if me and Auwt are the last citizens then that ship has sailed anyway. This is the most classic conundrum in Mafia but I dont think two subbed in towns find eachother here if we were even in that world.

    And signs indicated we're not.
  43. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)

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    ►►Re: S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    i think lag-auwt and oberon-frinckles, who are tunneling each other, are TvT.

    however, the last time i called a TvT tunnel, lag was town and blink was scum UWU.
    I think you just want LagAttacks slot to be town here. It doesn't really take a sociopath to pull off what I outlined - I think it was just solid scumplay and until this point, it has worked obviously.

    I'm okay with lynching Varcron if I can't convince you.
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    Thread:S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)

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    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    [COLOR="#AFEEEE"]i doubt she'd play like a sociopath
    LagAttack is very good and had the benefit of being the only non-sheriff claim.
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    Keep in mind, you had ALREADY voted for Blink Ceko.

    All LagAttack had to do was prime the hammer for Varcron. Look at their responses before and after.

    Vacron wants to "end this shitshow" but doesn't even know why the fuck he's hammering (he actually does, it's to save LagAttack.)

    Then your UwUU activated and you realized LagAttack was probably scum but oh here's Varcron again:

    Quote Originally Posted by Varcron View Post
    I doubt it, and here's why

    Blink got himself into a situation where he made himself appear very, VERY scummy

    And that's when he claimed sheriff and backed off after thunderdoming you.

    Should we pay attention to his reads? Sure, except at least the read on me (Varcron) is wrong as fuck.
    If you want to debate over whether Blink made the right play Ceko, we can do that all day and get nowhere. But look at the flips, reactions and events leading up to this and things become quite clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    also, anyone that says "slot A and B haven't interacted with each other" as a reason for them being a scumteam is probably wrong because i ended the day 24 hours early.
    Yeah you listened to LagAttack who literally signaled you and Varcron to lynch Blink.. lol

    Why do you think Varcron hammered there? Honestly think about it. I can give you a hint:

    June 4th, 2021, 11:29 AM

    Quote Originally Posted by LagAttack View Post
    Fucking at L-1 now myself. WHY AM I AT L-1 WHEN THERE'S LITERALLY A PERSON THAT HARD-CLAIMD SHERIFF JUST TO BACK OUT?
    June 4th, 2021, 11:31 AM

    Quote Originally Posted by LagAttack View Post
    -vote blinkskater
    June 4th, 2021, 11:35 AM

    Quote Originally Posted by Varcron View Post
    Time to put this shitshow to rest, it's going to happen anyways

    I'm going to pray that I'm right with my read.
    -vote blinkskater
    You got played.
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    Thread:S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)

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    Fancy play syndrome and silly shit in general has a large capacity to fail spectacularly, but LagAttack was GUNNING for blink here.

    Like 4 Sheriff fakeclaims and instead of being open-minded about it and considering motivation, you write off 3 saying "haha suboptimal play but whatever.. EXCEPT BLINK!"

    That's how I read it at least.
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    Thread:S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)

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    You know, I'm not a fan of the whole "this is too much information!" bullshit, but here's a fine example from Varcron. @Auwt what do you take from this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Varcron View Post
    PQR worded one of his phrases such that his "sheriff" claim actually makes him villager

    Very smart breadcrumb by him
    To which Oberon responded:

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Why does make him Villager? Can't he be Mafia?
    So already you can see my slot evaluating whether PQR is town (as Varcron boldly places it) or scum.

    Like, I get my slot has done some silly shit this game, but this is just on the nose. Varcron marked PQR town and gave him an out of their Sheriff claim early.

    Guess what slot also gave two players an out from their Sheriff claim?

    Quote Originally Posted by LagAttack View Post
    PQR's claim in retrospect looked to be a joke.
    blink actually did hard-claim it and then backed down
    ceko hard-claimed and is now un-CC'd sheriff
    Varcron claimed it and then backed down a few minutes later, definitely reads as a joke
    Oberon fake-hard-claimed it in a clever way.

    Sticking to the strategy, blink is the lynch.
    Your slot single-handedly created the division that resulted in Blink's death in a TvT situation. You wrote-off PQR, vilified Blink, pocketed Ceko, gave Varcron an out, and tried to write off my slot that was able to see through what you were doing. I could almost see this coming from a town perspective but it was executed methodically, I'm sure you've read your own ISO by now because it didn't stop.

    Quote Originally Posted by LagAttack View Post
    @Varcron @theoneceko

    Can we please switch to blinkskater?
    Obviously you could just message Varcron in day chat to find a reason to move his vote, but signaling Ceko to make the effort smoother was smart.

    Here's some scumrage.

    Quote Originally Posted by LagAttack View Post
    Fucking at L-1 now myself. WHY AM I AT L-1 WHEN THERE'S LITERALLY A PERSON THAT HARD-CLAIMD SHERIFF JUST TO BACK OUT?
    Scum being upset is always funny, but look at what the slot is saying exactly: This isn't an attempt for self preservation so much as it's an attempt to instill significant doubt in another player. Obviously LagAttack would have know Ceko/Blink is TvT but there is enough justification from Blink's play to make culpability for a town-flip unlikely.. which is what we see happen when Ceko asks if he's scum lol:

    Quote Originally Posted by LagAttack View Post
    No. Honestly fuck blinkskater with that play, it's a fucking stupid play that makes no sense to make as citizen other than he thinks game theory doesn't apply to him and he can do whatever the hell he wants.
    So, this is just a little breakdown of what I'm seeing.
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    Thread:S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    Looks like a team might be lacking in there.
    Guess which.
    Oh no no, you're absolutely correct. It'd be really unfair for me not to dispel a PQR/Frinckles scum team for you; In fact I had just started to but got caught up. (See my above post about my slots reads being consistent.)

    I'll elaborate further, hold on.
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