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  1. Forum:Narrator Discussion

    Thread:LF 5-sided classic FM setup

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    ►►Re: LF 5-sided classic FM setup◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Tauntshaman View Post
    I'd like to join but where's the channel?
    are you on the sc2mafia discord?
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    Thread:LF 5-sided classic FM setup

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    ►►Re: LF 5-sided classic FM setup◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    Is this a promise?
    mebe
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    Thread:LF 5-sided classic FM setup

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    ►►Re: LF 5-sided classic FM setup◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    what do I win
    I'll delete the cult role from narrator.
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    Thread:LF 5-sided classic FM setup

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    ►►Re: LF 5-sided classic FM setup◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    It's a 35 player setup?
    i've attempted to balance it for as little as 14 players.
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    Thread:LF 5-sided classic FM setup

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    ►►LF 5-sided classic FM setup◄◄

    Hey all,

    Games have been going pretty well in the narrator-mafia-bot channel. Big thanks for everyone that's submitting feedback and playing.

    We're looking to try and run this 14+ player setup
    https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...e-list-and-FAQ

    Phase length is 24hr/12hr. As usual, it's a low effort game. So, just say _something_ and submit your night actions.

    Do a de "!join" in the #narrator-mafia-bot channel.


    -Voss
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    ►►Re: S-FM 330: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    That's the thing though. Maybe some people made some mistakes (and I'm specifically avoiding who I think played very well and not so well), but I disagree with the notion that the entire town played like shit. It's not true and it's toxic. There's a difference here between your constructive introspection and a blanket insulting untruth.

    I think I've beaten this point to it's death though and won't be responding anymore. Hopefully I don't see such comments again!
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    ►►Re: S-FM 330: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    I did not say I would not have made the same mistakes, or that I do not make such mistakes. In fact I made the same mistake in an off-site game very recently so I think I have an objective perspective in this situation. I am simply stating what I am seeing, and that is what I am seeing.
    It's kind of awkward to say: "town played like shit, but I do the same. Guess I have shit town play!", isn't it? There's no reason to call everyone's play shit in the post game. We didn't like it in discord, and most people don't like it now. Please learn to give constructive criticism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Host Review, I think it was a great Game. No one played like crap everyone played a great game. This is one of the rare times that I believe everyone But one player (will not name names( Mod Killed)) Played great. I really enjoyed seeing this game move as it did making it to Final Three and seeing town pull it out. Mafia team did a good job making it to final three.
    @Obreon Remember it is easy for us to see players errors because we have all the info. If we where in there shoes who knows what mistakes we would have made. Like i said everyone played a great game.
    Comments like these from Mike make me always always want to sign for his games, because he knows how not to make his players feel bad post game.
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    [Misc. Suggestion] ►►Re: Petition to Nerf Prefer/Blacklist◄◄

    Another easy solution is to remove the point requirement for blacklist/prefer.
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    ►►Re: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    To be fair, town did play badly in some regards, and I'm very much including myself in this (should've sticked to my early views on Yues instead of going after literally everyone else afterwards lmao). It's not a reason to shit on people tho, and it certainly doesn't make Yues' super-suspicious => believable enough metamorphosis less skillful.
    It's perfectly fine saying where you yourself screwed up, and making specific suggestions to other people. I've seen a lot of that towards yuesford.

    But there's nothing fair about saying 11 players that their play was shit. That's like half or more of our total community, isn't it?

    Like, what did vacaron or banana, who died n1, warrant the title of bad play?
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    ►►Re: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    not to dissuade paopan... but honestly it was more that the town played like shit. he did okay for his first game, but... not stellar
    also, I predicted paopan would win
    I don't understand why this comment needs to be made. Who was it that played "like shit", or was it every single town member? Nothing about this is even constructive either.

    This isn't even the first time you made it. You said it in discord, so obviously you feel very very strongly about this statement.

    These host-observers are the fucking worst.
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    ►►Re: Low effort play test games in #narrator-mafia-bot◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    Btw, does the End Night button in the UI, or whatever it was called, do anything? Because I reckon with so few players and so long since the night started - everyone has surely pressed it..
    Command also available in discord, but yeah, if everyone does it, night gets skipped.
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    ►►Re: Low effort play test games in #narrator-mafia-bot◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    no shoutout to lodebite for joining just to get killed n1? harsh
    shoutout to aamirus for joining in the current game to get killed n1
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    ►►Re: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    Oh yeah, calling for modules and threatening to rage quit shouldn't be allowed here. If you need to do either, please talk to the host privately. I refuse or unsign if I see people that ragequit sign onto games Im interested in.

    Not trying to burst the bubble though. I enjoyed the game for the significant most part.
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    ►►Re: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    Loved reading this game. Not sure why there was so much negativity and stress about this game.

    Like everyone eslse, I'll also echo props to Yuesford to hanging on this long. I think he was a bit toxic at the end, but I guess it's understandable given the context of Yuesford being scum and new and in dire straits. Also, Yuesford, you kept saying you weren't being listened to. You were, but you're not always going to get everyone to follow you :P

    I don't really get the "anti-new-player" bias that was thrown around here (I'm looking at you @Renegade ). Like, I REALLY did not appreciate the "oh someone's viewing thread and not reading" shit, and I don't think you did either. But if you want your play this game to be your meta, so be it. It just seems to me that you're taking other players read of you personally and that makes me sad.

    Also, zzorange, we don't really appreciate on the forums here people who post content completely unrelated to the game, in order to circumvent a post count. That's probably why your dead end vigilante claim was garbage. If you can't understand that what you were doing was against the spirit of the game rules, then you're probably too stupid to play with us. If you can, and legitimately wish to play, i think there could be some good games with you. But no one here wants to see the game you brought to "All Stars" ever again.
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    ►►Re: Low effort play test games in #narrator-mafia-bot◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    I gave effort? It didn't say that in my rolecard. Perhaps you need to give more rolecard details via pm on discord
    I expect top tier play from you.
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    ►►Re: Low effort play test games in #narrator-mafia-bot◄◄

    Also, shoutout to SJ, aamirus, Unknown, Jeremiah, and Paopan for the effort
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    ►►Low effort play test games in #narrator-mafia-bot◄◄

    Hey all,

    A small group of us have been running 48hr/24hr games in #narrator-mafia-bot in the sc2mafia discord channel. Join up if you can. It's super helpful to have long running games to help debug issues as they come up. Even though the days are really long, there's no pressure to play it like FM.

    Cheers,
    Voss
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    ►►Re: All Stars (Old School) Not for the Weak◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I have church tonight Voss is going to close the thread at 6pm CST for me i will post the EOD lynch when I get home. Then again you all will be able to see who it is unless it is a tie then I will post it before 7pmcst. This is just an update
    Im on my phone so let's make sure votes and posts are in before 6pm CST. No gray area.
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    ►►Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    don't tag other people, tag yourself and play.
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    ►►Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    @unknown told me he wants to play some FM. He will sign if u guys tag team him
    @aamirus , why don't you play. we can redo your cop v cop fight

    @Unknown1234 hi
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    ►►Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)◄◄

    When an immovable rocks meets an unstoppable force
  22. Forum:Approved Forum Mafia Setups

    Thread:(14-16P) All Stars (OldSchool)

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    ►►Re: (14-16P) All Stars (OldSchool)◄◄

    If people don't understand what 'ghosts' mean, you can think of it like we have 14 players, but 16 roles. And there are rules on what is guaranteed to spawn.
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    ►►Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)◄◄

    i hate cancel culture
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    ►►Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)◄◄

    I agree that it's more likely that we eliminate a town on day 1. But this town member doesn't need to get checked, vigi shotted, or take up a heal. It's also an individual who would never have been killed by mafia (because of how suspicious they were to the group).

    Take this other scenario.

    4 CONFIRMED town, due to mechanics. 2 unconfirmed town, and one killer.

    Chances are you kill a town member, right? 1/3 because you wouldn't vote for any of the confirmed town. 1/3 makes it less likely to kill scum. If you skip day, it becomes 3 confirmed town and still 1/3 to vote out the scum. But if you take your chance, the next day it becomes 1/2 and the following day 100%.

    Skip = bad.
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    ►►Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)◄◄

    I'm going to flip my shit if someone says it's more likely that we kill town d1 than scum d1.
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    ►►Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)◄◄

    So, we agree that skipping is bad (in general), right? Statistically, it's good for town to "random" amongst themselves bc there's a chance it hits scum, rather than mafia getting controlling who dies each night.

    Like, if I advocate for skipping in the first few days of the game, I'm openly claiming scum and should be eliminated asap.
  27. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Do Admins actually play arcade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    why is this guy not IP banned yet isnt this like his 6th account
    is that guy being sarcastic?
  28. Forum:Forum Mafia Discussion

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    ►►Re: Gambits◄◄

    it's why i try to push the game onto spammers. talk too much? you're making it harder for town players to know what's going on. people think this stream of consciousness makes them look like town. it doesn't. it's anti-town.
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    ►►Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    /in
    BANANA
  30. Forum:Serious Discussion & Debate

    Thread:anyone go to gym?

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    ►►Re: anyone go to gym?◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    I have an erg, a stationary bike, and this stretching thingy. I donít miss the bench but I do miss the good girl bad girl machine
    i'm not googling that.
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    Thread:anyone go to gym?

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    ►►Re: anyone go to gym?◄◄

    I will when I make my move away from my apartment. Currently have some adjustable weights, but am really missing the bench.
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    ►►Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    I think we'll be okay. We have the cit numbers to lynch both liars, and we'll know when a mafia dies because of the -1 KPN.

    Only way town loses if skips happen.
    or a good mafia team too
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    ►►Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    wait, this game is flipless...

    sounds like hell LOL
    I think we'll be okay. We have the cit numbers to lynch both liars, and we'll know when a mafia dies because of the -1 KPN.

    Only way town loses if skips happen.
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    ►►Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    Sorry plurality only as a voting system, is something I can't afford to play with.
    Would you rather there was a majority only?
  35. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Do Admins actually play arcade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    It seems like some want us to moderate more, others want us to ban more, and finally some want us to ban less. Who are the real losers here? sc2mafia staff.
    no sarcasm intended here.
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    Thread:Do Admins actually play arcade?

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    It seems like some want us to moderate more, others want us to ban more, and finally some want us to ban less. Who are the real losers here? sc2mafia staff.
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    Thread:Do Admins actually play arcade?

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    While I don't agree with this person's ideas, I think banning someone for asking whether the current policy will kill the game is a draconian. And if I can't laugh about the "but mah freeze peach" threads here, it'd probably drive me to leave the site.

    Are you making the case that staff in general is too soft on bigoted content, or...?
  38. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Do Admins actually play arcade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    im just glad mods can punish you (even if stealth and unknown, who are retired staff, went psycho mode). this discourages me from turning on my oops switch

    voss you don't need to argue with this dumbass or be a bitch to put him down. you've a ban button, right?! tf is wrong with you.

    tbh, this will just make the forums that much more different from the mod. it isn't just racists that are a problem. it's ppl being homophobic, transphobic, and sexist, things i all forgot.

    if you're REALLY going to clean up the mod, then it will probably die
    I was bored at work?
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    Thread:Do Admins actually play arcade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veliaire View Post
    Yes, and Voss gave me a warning for it. Evidently, its against the rules to call a spade a spade.
    Damn right. Spade love brother.
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    Thread:Do Admins actually play arcade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veliaire View Post
    Too late, we're already in it. It wasn't too long ago people were losing their jobs simply for typing #FreePalestine. If you do or say anything that goes against what the big brother deems is socially acceptable, the full force of the PC police will come down on you. That is the world in which we live now, and little pockets of the internet like this only perpetuate the problem.
    I have taken it upon myself to ban all staff members that take inappropriate actions against players who type #FreePalestine. You're welcome.

    @Dark.Revenant , it's time to go bud.
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    Thread:Do Admins actually play arcade?

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    So... you're crusading on sc2mafia.com to stop the next rise of some Orwellian state. Major kudos.
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    Thread:Do Admins actually play arcade?

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    You missed responding to my point about Twitter. Twitter is "farther along the slope" than sc2mafia. Is crusading for a small time game more important than defending the rights of the former President of the United States of America?
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    Thread:Do Admins actually play arcade?

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    ►►Re: Do Admins actually play arcade?◄◄

    I'm personally having a blast here.
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    Thread:Do Admins actually play arcade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veliaire View Post
    I never claimed otherwise, did I? Is this the extent of your intellectual capability? To just flip a statement back at someone? "I know you are but what am I?"
    I guess I conflated my interpretation of your definitions of "the internet" and "society". Maybe the better answer is, if you don't like being told what you can and can't say on the internet, don't use it? It's not up to me to prove that any internet moderation is bad for society. That's up to you. For me, I'm perfectly capable living my life without having to use racist slurs to win a game. I'm also okay not playing a game if I don't agree with the staff's moderation decisions.
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    Thread:Do Admins actually play arcade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veliaire View Post
    Nobody is forcing you to do anything.
    Nobody is forcing you to interact on the internet either. So what's your point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veliaire View Post
    No private entity is a protected realm of free speech. You are missing the point entirely. The entirety of the internet is owned by private companies. There is no place you can go online that isn't owned by someone. However, the internet is how people communicate.. and when you have thousands of different people telling you what you are and are not allowed to say, that has a negative impact on society as a whole.
    It also has a negative impact to society to be forced to interact with racist dribble. So one could call the arcade staff here heroes.

    Assuming you think banning VIP for more "mundane" things is the next step in this spooky slippery slope, why don't you take this free speech crusade to the Twitter platform? They're obviously worse than us.
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    Thread:Do Admins actually play arcade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Virgin Voss with facts and logic vs CHAD Veliaire unironically dropping the slippery slope fallacy.

    I can personally attest to not playing mafia because of the constant racism from the player base. Throughout my time in sc2 Iíve also found many players who have also stopped due to the racism, mostly from playing Cortex with them.

    When you eat at a restaurant and the food is bad, you donít come back. You donít talk to employees or the management about how the food sucked or whatever. You donít try and fix the food. You just donít come back. Have you considered for a moment that there may be a cause and effect link between the fact that lobbies take forever to fill up and the fact that thereís a very vocal minority in the community (and it is well established at this point that you are in a minority) that is actively spamming racist messages and dragging the quality of games down?

    Edit: Voss that last post was cringe maybe dont suggest that staff could ban people for voting them
    Sorry, I meant to invalidate Veliaire's slippery slope argument. Staff would never ban players for something like that. It would be a ridiculously successful attempt to kill the game quickly.
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    Thread:Do Admins actually play arcade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veliaire View Post
    Exactly. Its like how FB and Twitter banned Trump. Next Twitter removed the President of Nigeria's post. Months back they were banning accounts as fake news for talking about the possibility of Corona being created in a lab, and now we are learning that just might be true. When you stifle free speech its always a slipper slope.
    The arcade isn't a protected realm of free speech ;). This also isn't Twitter with millions of millions of users interacting with each other over a wide variety of cultural topics. We're MAYBE hundreds that interact over a small game.

    Nice try at false equivalency though. If you don't like being banned for voting staff members in a game, don't play. I trust and applaud the arcade staff's decisions to draw the line on what they choose to moderate. Their efforts keep the game playable for the silent majority of users that don't want this distasteful behavior.

    And as an added bonus, we get dipsticks to create these asinine "but mah free speech" threads for others to dunk upon. Maybe that should be one of the aspects we promote here on sc2mafia.com
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    Thread:Do Admins actually play arcade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    Voss, frankly, shut your mouth.
    You're one of the biggest griefers on the site, you griefed on Oberon for like forever because he attacked you in some game or whatever other reason.
    It was literally painful to watch you grief so openly, viciously and for so long. And now you're being hypocritical by projecting your own actions but in reverse? You're fucked up mate.

    Edit: him ignoring all your abuse and grief is him "not being anti mods for the sake of it" - ok, cool mate, whatever floats your narcissism.
    Feel free to hit me up in some dms. I'm not going to derail the thread over this topic.
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    Thread:Do Admins actually play arcade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veliaire View Post
    So let me ask you this. Are you going to start banning people for using the words "Faggot" and "Retard", which are also offensive? Or don't those groups deserve the protection of the PC police?
    The classic slippery slope. We should ban people for using the word "stupid" and "dumb" too, right? Or maybe even when someone votes a staff member? YIKES.
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