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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumi View Post
    Having played on MafiaUniverse, MafiaCafe, DeckMafia.Games, The Syndicate, 17th Shard, SDN, Everybody Edits, and The Abomination Discord in addition to here and Hypixel, by far the most common implementation of roleblocks is that it prevents factional kills. In fact, I can only remember a couple of times when it didn't and in both of those cases this fact was clearly stated.
    wow
    that's whack

    Is there any specific reason that roleblocks stop the factional even though it's not a role action?
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    @Frinckles

    vote Jmw?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Last will:
    I was put in a private chat with jmw on N1. I also gave him a fruit (and told him I would do so in the chat).
    N2: no action because it was impossible
    N3: protected Martin (he was attacked!)
    N4: nothing at all because I had internet issues when I wanted to submit my action............. sorryyyy
    N5: roleblocked jmw
    @Bakura1
    ah that's right thanks
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    If town ends up losing because I didn't know that roleblocks stopped factionals I'm gonna be mad

    Though, you've gotta admit, roleblocks stopping factionals is a little strange, as factionals aren't role-related in any way

    I wonder who decided that roleblocks stop factionals on this site
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    I just realized

    Jmw and Clowns are both voting martin

    So you're gonna go there too @Snom_ aren't you?
    Gonna join your little scum buddies?

    @Frinckles I think you need to vote Jmw here because MM and Martin are already voting him

    looks like it's gonna end up as a tied wagon and RNG will literally decide the fate of the game
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    I'm surprised if Jimmy's scum here

    everyone always says his scumplay sucks, though he's almost never been scum

    although the one time he was scum was a random small game where I tied myself with him D1 for memes instead of voting him and he ended up winning lol

    Though he has been mostly inactive, which is very unusual for him regardless of alignment, so that also probably made it a lot harder to read him
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    Also @Snom_ I want a reads list from you

    I want to know who you're voting today as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snom_ View Post
    Why did you pink me bakura?
    @Snom_
    What does this mean

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    You're not even bringing counterarguments, so I'm not sure why you'd say that...
    My counterargument was that Clowns is scummier and we still have a lot of unknowns about what happened during night. Also could you fullclaim your night actions so far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Oh and I just noticed you said roleblocks don't stop factional kills: here, by convention, roleblocks do stop factional kills unless stated otherwise. And again, there is no other explanation for the no-kill last night.
    Bro that's whack
    All right then I guess Jmw's a fine lynch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakura1 View Post
    Hmm
    This basically confirms another chat took place N1, as I don't see why someone wouldn't claim this, especially not from MM/Jmw or Clowns/Jelly, and I can confirm it wasn't from me/Frinckles
    *but I don't see why someone wouldn't claim this
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    Hmm

    looking back on Ewian's last will as mentioned earlier because I think we took what he said out of context way too much

    To quote it exactly for coaching/town will be shaken and destroyed:

    "let’s create an alliance I will coach and protect you, we vote together, join me and town will be shaken and destroyed"

    I don't see why scum would say this to scum as they're already teamed

    This basically confirms another chat took place N1, as I don't see why someone wouldn't claim this, especially not from MM/Jmw or Clowns/Jelly, and I can confirm it wasn't from me/Frinckles

    So this would mean that there were 4 chats N1

    But I have no idea who it could've been between

    honestly the balance for this game has just seemed absolutely broken, at least from my pov

    You make like 3 chatmakers + an upgrader and amnesiac, which isn't smart as chatmakers are gonna be the first to claim, and having so many chatmakers + upgraded chatmakers is overkill

    and then to top it off, I'm a traffic analyst but can only tell if someone's been in a chat throughout the whole duration of the game
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    Well clowns is definitely Mafia here, so.
    yeah exactly

    I mean I'm definitely considering Jmw as a lynch target for later, but Clowns is way scummier here

    @Marshmallow Marshall you yourself literally said that Clowns should be out of here before LyLo and yet here we are with you not pushing Clowns for like 2 days in a row

    Rn scumteam is looking like:
    Clowns + Snom + either Jmw or MM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snom_ View Post
    Why did you pink me bakura?
    wat

    Quote Originally Posted by Snom_ View Post
    No idea if your talking about me but I don’t think I can be added to chats because of my passive redirects
    No I'm talking about Stealth/Aporia
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    I find it weird that the slot never claimed to be in any chats though

    I don't even see who could've added him to a chat
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    Also Aporia was almost certainly in a chat N1, because N2 there were no actions and he was in one before N3. It can't be a redirector because why wouldn't a redirector claim?

    Discuss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Four reasons (three actual ones and an additional thing):

    - I roleblocked you and there was no kill. There is no other explanation for the lack of death (scum never intentionally no-kill here because they would just auto-win), and noone has claimed anything else explaining it (and at this point, if you're town with an explanation and don't bring it up, you are literally throwing lol)
    - You straight up jumped on Varcron along with Clowns in perfect synchronization at EoD, which is why I blocked you in the first place.
    - Martin and yourself voted eachother with locked votes. I know for a fact that Martin is town (there is no reason for him to be attacked on N3 otherwise, considering the lack of deaths on that night). If you actually happened to be town, that is two town votes on townies, which equals instant defeat for town - thus, a path to victory only exists if you're actually scum.

    As for the additional thing: noone said anything to make me doubt all of the above, and I waited a very long time before placing my vote to make sure objections could be voiced first.


    Thus, placing a vote on you is really the only logical move here. For the record, assuming you're scum, you played very well and had me fooled behavior-wise for a very long time. (If you're town, you played well too lol, but then we are screwed so pls don't be )
    Look I'm not saying Jmw can't be town, but don't be so stupidly confident in yourself when we still have so many unknowns regarding night actions. We still have no idea how Clowns entered a chat with Jelly, what happened to the Hider scumchat mentioned in Ewian's last will, how Shaman died, or how Aporia was in a chat N1.

    Also roleblocking doesn't stop someone from performing a kill. It just stops any role-specific actions.

    @Frinckles
    @Snom_

    I am starting to acknowledge a Jmw lynch more and more as mech evidence does seem good, but I want to share something I realized earlier today:

    A Clowns lynch confirms both Martin and me as town.
    Martin, because Clowns supposedly started a chat with him N4 or something, and I don't see any reason for scummates to fake that, especially if Clowns can just chat with anyone.

    And me, because I am cleared off a Clowns scum flip (not that anyone cares) because I've been pushing Clowns way too hard for us to be scummates bussing.

    Oh yeah btw MM your reasoning for Jmw being scummy off of the vote at EoD4 also applies to Martin lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    I think Bakura slipped jmw was mafia though

    he demanded an apology from me but has not even gotten mad at Jelly for being signfiicantly responsible for their own misyeet



    the size-4 text implies not a strong desire for Jelly to be the execution for that day; if I had said this myself and the person I was now voting had been mute, I would be upset that they didn't even TRY to drag themselves out of yeet range
    First of all, I'm very mad at Oliver, Jelly, and Clowns. But Oliver and Jelly have to wait until postgame because they're literally dead. I didn't mention Oliver after he was lynched either. All 3 players have played extremely poorly, and Oliver and Jelly borderline gamethrew, but Clowns is the only one who still hasn't been lynched.

    Secondly, I have no idea what you are talking about. I don't know if changing the quote was on purpose or not, but the entire original post was in the same font size as can be seen by going back to the source.
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    I'm calling for a revolution

    seize the means of production

    everyone with spaces in their names should be equally taggable
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    @Marshmallow Marshall

    your admin username space character power ab00se has rendered you immune to being @'ed by bakura
    Wtf

    why does MM get a space but not Jelly

    That's messed up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakura1 View Post
    @jmw what were your actions each night
    pretty sure I said this already but same for MM and Frinckles too
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    @jmw what were your actions each night
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    @MarshmallowMarshall
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    tf

    why are tags no longer working
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    @MarshmallowMarshall

    I hate this website
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakura1 View Post
    @Snom_ @MarshmallowMarshall @Frinckles

    where are you guys voting today
    @marshmallowmarshal
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    @Snom_ @MarshmallowMarshall @Frinckles

    where are you guys voting today
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    Sorry didn't see this.

    Yeah I just lied about being able to protect you. Mostly to see if you were Mafia who'd kill me.
    Oh
    What were your actions each night?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Last will:
    I was put in a private chat with jmw on N1. I also gave him a fruit (and told him I would do so in the chat).
    N2: no action because it was impossible
    N3: protected Martin (he was attacked!)
    N4: nothing at all because I had internet issues when I wanted to submit my action............. sorryyyy
    N5: roleblocked jmw

    Considering noone CCed me on both no-kills (heal N3 and roleblock last night) and considering no-killing intentionally as scum here so that I could pretend to have blocked mafia is thoroughly illogical (since scum!MM would just win by killing someone lol), I don't think I could ever possibly be scum even from your point of view

    Also, I'm really, really, really not sure why you are so adamant on analyzing a neutral's last will when he wasn't even town-aligned, as far as we know... like reaaaallllyyyy not... it's like that is more important than people piling up on Varcron at MYLO without any words and in perfect synchronization or more important than me stopping scum kills TWO TIMES lol
    Mechanically it does seem pretty black and white, but there are still a lot of things we don't know about what happened during night, and based off of dayplay I know Jmw is almost certainly town. Though I still have to ISO you both at some point. Clowns is still the lynch today though.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmw View Post
    I think he means N1, because that's when my chat with MM was.
    I thought that was what I just said but okay
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    Wait I just realized something

    Ewian said in his last will that he's 90% certain that Jmw targeted MM N2 or scum targeted scum

    But he died EoD2, so that must have been a typo

    So @jmw I guess disregard my question for now but do claim actions

    I'll have to analyze Ewian's last will some more
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    Btw @jmw who did MM target N2?

    and @MarshmallowMarshall who has been your target/what has been your action each night?
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    Also how has literally everyone but me forgotten about Clowns
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snom_ View Post
    I can mod post…
    Yes but you also mentioned something about redirections
    you've gotta communicate with me here man, you're embarrassing me in front of the mafia wizards

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    hello
    yes I asked you some questions like 3 posts back
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheClowns View Post
    Why am I the lynch
    I'm not explaining that to you at this point

    if you don't know then you either have the memory of a goldfish, are playing coy, or some other third fish-related figure of speech that I can't think of at the moment.
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    Also I forget, how exactly does your ability work? I know you used some sort of amnesiac ability to make chats, but you also protected me.
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    also @Frinckles what were your actions after you stopped protecting me?
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    @Snom_ you are only a passive redirector, correct?

    Is anyone here a redirector?

    Because that would not only explain the kill on TauntShaman D1, but also my invest result D3.

    @jmw I targeted Stealthbomber D3, not D4. And that action was a traffic analyst shot. I have the ability to see if a player has ever been in a chat. According to my results, Stealthbomber's slot was already in a chat before the one he joined D3. I took this as a red check, but somehow he flipped town. The only thing that I can imagine making sense is a redirection.

    Additionally, before Varcron was so rudely hammered, I had investigated his slot the night before and found out that his slot had been in no chats.

    As for Jmw, I still believe he is town. As for your claims, MM, I am not sold on the fact that Martin was attacked. Frinckles was protecting me that same night as well. It is completely possible that scum went for me instead. Jmw's content this game has been completely competent, while you are floundering about in an attempt to pressure Jmw.

    However, I will still be ISO'ing each of your slots when I have the chance. And as for today, Clowns is the lynch.

    -vote TheClowns
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    @MartinGG99
    @jmw

    Apologize to me.

    I had claimed that Varcron was town, and neither of you opposed my read, yet you both quickhammered him. Take me seriously, or I'm out of here.

    Furthermore, I was in the middle of a conversation with Snom. And yet you two had the gall to say that nothing was happening and vote Varcron, cutting our conversation short. You both nearly cost town the game.
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    I am surrounded by idiots
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snom_ View Post
    I am not informed when I redirect actions. It happens possibly I don’t chose to redirect anything
    So you passively redirect actions that are targeted at you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snom_ View Post
    N1 my slot mod posted:
    "This is your Modposter speaking. Make sure to post your leads and theories on roles during Day 2."
    N2 I did nothing
    N3 I mod posted the Art of war
    N4 I mod posted:
    What is the point of a mod poster? Sure i can send messgaes but i can do that at anytime. It might be useful for saying somthing contraversal like pineapple can go on pizza. Or if its not labled as a mod post i can start some kind of fake event hoping to lure out scum. But in this games its fairly useless.
    But what about redirections? I thought you were a redirector as well.
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    gonna be heading out for the majority of the afternoon in a bit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    I was able to use my ability N1 to get architect. used it on bakura, talked about nothingness the first night.

    role abilities got blocked n2. I really wanted to see what other stuff people had but you guys refused to lynch before 24 hours, which was a dumb idea for you to do because you just let mafia kill you for free.

    N3 I took architect again and chatted it up with Bakura because I was wondering if they were a neutral as well. I don't think so however.
    I can confirm that I was in a chat with Frinckles N1/N3, though their play has massively shifted today and idk if I like it. MM's also basically just disappeared.

    Also @Frinckles what'd you do N4?

    Quote Originally Posted by jmw View Post
    To be clear, I don't plan on revealing what information I have until all 3 players I've asked have claimed their action / lack thereof.
    Not that I can really do anything about it anyway if they stay silent, but at the very least I'll have my solve.
    I'll claim my actions and explain my confusion after I figure out what's happening myself. I need to know if there were any redirections though first.

    Quote Originally Posted by Varcron View Post
    Chat was between MM/Bakura/Snom

    They can confirm once they get on.
    Varcron

    the chat was with me, Clowns, and MM

    we didn't talk about much, mostly just me and MM not liking Clowns

    in response to his voting Jelly, someone he masonized, D2, he said "nobody's perfect"
    at which point we just decided to make fun of him

    At this point Clowns deserves to be lynched, regardless of his alignment
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    and yes Clowns is almost confscum at this point
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    This game is seeming more and more like either a bastard setup or some sort of practical joke
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    Hello, all

    haven't fully read up yet but I have a lot of questions that need answering
    don't hammer anyone yet, Varcron is town btw

    @Snom_ I need you to claim all of your actions

    N3 would be particularly helpful, as well as last night

    the sooner the better
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    I hope I don't die tonight
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    Well time to head out kiddos

    don't die on me
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    VC as of now is

    10000JellyDoughnuts (3): Frinckles, Marshmallow Marshall, Bakura1
    Frinckles (1): Stealthbomber16
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    this D4 flew by fast

    prob because nothing happened first 24 hours for the most part
    That's because I was busy making my wallpost for the first 24 hours
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    lol me

    EoD is in an hour
    I always leave at this time
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    Also @Stealthbomber16 do you want to change to either Jelly or Clowns?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    I'm going to an amusement park tomorrow and I may not be back till like 5 hours before EoD or later
    imagine being amused
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