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[QUOTE=Kik;452161]Town did do poorly in this game. I never said they didn't. But they at least had some good players that participated and tried to figure things out (Tapatalk, Clash of Clans, Snapchat, Flappy Bird). Those players were just killed quickly and the rest of the town was about as terrible as your mafia.
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]Usally strong players get kill quick do then not?

also calling us as a whole was bad is really wrong tbh. Titus and louis (to a lesser extent) did quite well and were active

Also consider titus had more posts then you (excluding post game) is quite telling

WWF: 91
Kik: 89

Really if anyone did "bad" it would be nociz/me for day chat. But night chat is entirely diffren story
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My point wasn't that town deserved to win this game; they didn't. But neither did you.
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]Well considering they imploded so hard, i woulnt say they did. We can argue on the latter of who "deserves it" till the end of time. so im not going to persue it[/COLOR]

Your mafia and the orange mafia from fm 20 are about equally bad. Both had one player that did ok (Damus and titus, respectively) and 3 other players who did fuck all.
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]again, i would dissagre we ALL did bad, titus did good for what short time she had. Louis did meh as a replacemnt. If anything, i would say its me/nocitz (as already said)[/COLOR]

I'm not "grilling" anyone. I'm just calling out the two idiots/gamethrowers that caused it.
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]Guess its POV then.
as for gamethrow
Neutral: i can see being gamethorw but again its debatable due to the lack of feedback
Town: you clearly stated they could not win, so its moot point to even consider them gamethrowing really[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

/tenchar

@new post: i think its more of you setting high standard and you expect all players to play at your skill level. At least thats what im taking from it, you expect mafia/town/ect to always play to a super high expectation that you set and when they dont you say "bad job"

TL;DR Not every player is invested as you are nor do they always have time. I think your just expecting something that not everyone can do.

@temple run

WWF: most posts for only 2 days
4pic: inacive but was there
Bloon: had some good when subbed in
Me: i picked up near end-game

Originally Posted by Kik

Town did do poorly in this game. I never said they didn't. But they at least had some good players that participated and tried to figure things out (Tapatalk, Clash of Clans, Snapchat, Flappy Bird). Those players were just killed quickly and the rest of the town was about as terrible as your mafia.
Usally strong players get kill quick do then not?

also calling us as a whole was bad is really wrong tbh. Titus and louis (to a lesser extent) did quite well and were active

Also consider titus had more posts then you (excluding post game) is quite telling

WWF: 91
Kik: 89

Really if anyone did "bad" it would be nociz/me for day chat. But night chat is entirely diffren story


My point wasn't that town deserved to win this game; they didn't. But neither did you.
Well considering they imploded so hard, i woulnt say they did. We can argue on the latter of who "deserves it" till the end of time. so im not going to persue it

Your mafia and the orange mafia from fm 20 are about equally bad. Both had one player that did ok (Damus and titus, respectively) and 3 other players who did fuck all.
again, i would dissagre we ALL did bad, titus did good for what short time she had. Louis did meh as a replacemnt. If anything, i would say its me/nocitz (as already said)

I'm not "grilling" anyone. I'm just calling out the two idiots/gamethrowers that caused it.
Guess its POV then.
as for gamethrow
Neutral: i can see being gamethorw but again its debatable due to the lack of feedback
Town: you clearly stated they could not win, so its moot point to even consider them gamethrowing really

/tenchar

@new post: i think its more of you setting high standard and you expect all players to play at your skill level. At least thats what im taking from it, you expect mafia/town/ect to always play to a super high expectation that you set and when they dont you say "bad job"

TL;DR Not every player is invested as you are nor do they always have time. I think your just expecting something that not everyone can do.

@temple run

WWF: most posts for only 2 days
4pic: inacive but was there
Bloon: had some good when subbed in
Me: i picked up near end-game

[QUOTE=Kik;452158]Not that any of that is relevant to this game at all...[/QUOTE]

These are comparsions im doing all you are kinda doing is sidestpping them as if they have no comparsion when many of them do. FMs history of games can be compared, in any game where scums kurked and won, or any game where scum(s) lost at endgame due to a vote of a faction that cant win, they cant be blamed. They are in a kingmaers game where no matter what they do its not going to help them unless the other faction wants to gamethrow.

Also on hunger games, thats besides the point. Wouldnt you say town did poorly here as well? You had one member who wanted to continue playing. Its a group as well. Think back to FM 20 as well where i was neutral. I made it late game only to be lynched. Was I mad? no. Again all you can do is really blame yourself. You were unable to convince 2048 to keep his vote off. I lied to get him to vote you.

And really, its only a game. Theres no need to grill everyone for your loss and grill the ones who won.

Lurking is a techincal legit stratagy, the fact you could of done the entire same thing is not our fault.

@next post: you contridict yourself then, you said we were "most awful" are you saying the team of FM20 was not as awful?

Originally Posted by Kik

Not that any of that is relevant to this game at all...

These are comparsions im doing all you are kinda doing is sidestpping them as if they have no comparsion when many of them do. FMs history of games can be compared, in any game where scums kurked and won, or any game where scum(s) lost at endgame due to a vote of a faction that cant win, they cant be blamed. They are in a kingmaers game where no matter what they do its not going to help them unless the other faction wants to gamethrow.

Also on hunger games, thats besides the point. Wouldnt you say town did poorly here as well? You had one member who wanted to continue playing. Its a group as well. Think back to FM 20 as well where i was neutral. I made it late game only to be lynched. Was I mad? no. Again all you can do is really blame yourself. You were unable to convince 2048 to keep his vote off. I lied to get him to vote you.

And really, its only a game. Theres no need to grill everyone for your loss and grill the ones who won.

Lurking is a techincal legit stratagy, the fact you could of done the entire same thing is not our fault.

@next post: you contridict yourself then, you said we were "most awful" are you saying the team of FM20 was not as awful?

is it unfair that we also had to get a replacement? What about FM20 where scums had an ENTIRE AFK scum but not modkilled due to them using him? you were bg there and you gave complaints. How come you didnt shit on them like you are doing here?

is it unfair that we also had to get a replacement? What about FM20 where scums had an ENTIRE AFK scum but not modkilled due to them using him? you were bg there and you gave complaints. How come you didnt shit on them like you are doing here?

What about fm 18(?) where you got culted and "technacly" lost? what about cops and robbers M-FM where you got lynched? What about any fm (any size) you have been in? what makes tose any diffrent from this?

What about any other fm where scums lurked to victory? Porios game scums basicly did just that while town imploded. Whats their excuse?

What about fm 18(?) where you got culted and "technacly" lost? what about cops and robbers M-FM where you got lynched? What about any fm (any size) you have been in? what makes tose any diffrent from this?

What about any other fm where scums lurked to victory? Porios game scums basicly did just that while town imploded. Whats their excuse?

[QUOTE=Kik;452154]If you don't understand why a person would be upset that after investing a lot of time into a game, doing everything right, meticulously planning everything, and setting themselves up to win only to have victory taken from them at the last second due to the stupidity of two other people, and instead given to the faction that put in the least effort, who are also strong contenders for the worst faction ever in the history of this site, then I can't help you.[/QUOTE]

A lot of your complaining is very highly biassed. What about the old yayap fm where you were mafia and lost that? is that your falt also or everyone elses?

Just b/c someone else did something wrong, doesnt mean you are right.

Town cant win, so they can make someone else lose
neutral didnt know better due to drug hidden (and dont say he should of known)

You could of taken us out and then go killing all by yourself but instead you decided to leave it to us to try and do your dirty work (kills).

Did we lurk? yes but thats not really an exuse to say "we are the worst or its all our falt" or anyone elses for that matter. I was able to convince him to lynch you. Even if i didnt he didnt care. Look at the stuff we invested into our night chats. Yes some of it is filler stuff but we worked in calaborations.

Unless if you have a unanoums agreemnt on anything you have been comlainging about or suggesting, its all opinionated.

Originally Posted by Kik

If you don't understand why a person would be upset that after investing a lot of time into a game, doing everything right, meticulously planning everything, and setting themselves up to win only to have victory taken from them at the last second due to the stupidity of two other people, and instead given to the faction that put in the least effort, who are also strong contenders for the worst faction ever in the history of this site, then I can't help you.

A lot of your complaining is very highly biassed. What about the old yayap fm where you were mafia and lost that? is that your falt also or everyone elses?

Just b/c someone else did something wrong, doesnt mean you are right.

Town cant win, so they can make someone else lose
neutral didnt know better due to drug hidden (and dont say he should of known)

You could of taken us out and then go killing all by yourself but instead you decided to leave it to us to try and do your dirty work (kills).

Did we lurk? yes but thats not really an exuse to say "we are the worst or its all our falt" or anyone elses for that matter. I was able to convince him to lynch you. Even if i didnt he didnt care. Look at the stuff we invested into our night chats. Yes some of it is filler stuff but we worked in calaborations.

Unless if you have a unanoums agreemnt on anything you have been comlainging about or suggesting, its all opinionated.

I kept my promise to not kill 2048 and I also let the neutral decide the outcome...

He decided this game by dying...

I kept my promise to not kill 2048 and I also let the neutral decide the outcome...

He decided this game by dying...

If its scum on scum though, who would he side with? He already appears to still have same wincon as he did from start.

If its scum on scum though, who would he side with? He already appears to still have same wincon as he did from start.

Again 2048 is our decider, I can't kill. You can kill anyone here but it ends all the same, with your loss. I'm sure of this.

Again 2048 is our decider, I can't kill. You can kill anyone here but it ends all the same, with your loss. I'm sure of this.

So if he lynches you it goes to neutral decision. Otherwise we just have an endgame where you will lose.

So if he lynches you it goes to neutral decision. Otherwise we just have an endgame where you will lose.

Well its 100% true b/c i have negative happiness right now so it is impossible for me to do a factional kill.

[quote]Warmongers: If anyone on your team is at or above 3 Unhappiness, the Warmongers may not perform a factional night kill.[/quote]

I have been running just about all of them so i am at -3 atm. I was not checking my happiness and recently found this out.

Well its 100% true b/c i have negative happiness right now so it is impossible for me to do a factional kill.

Warmongers: If anyone on your team is at or above 3 Unhappiness, the Warmongers may not perform a factional night kill.

I have been running just about all of them so i am at -3 atm. I was not checking my happiness and recently found this out.

However theres another:

2048 lynches you. I made him an offer that i will opt for a no-kill on him if he does and leave this for it to be decided by neutral.

However theres another:

2048 lynches you. I made him an offer that i will opt for a no-kill on him if he does and leave this for it to be decided by neutral.

[QUOTE=Kik;452096]I am Indeed.[/QUOTE]

kik, heres my offer, im technacly in a position to lose, however i can cause you to lose also.

ToNight: I am not going to kill. Therfor you have the option of
A) killing me
B) killing town
C) killing neutral
D) no action

Heres what Happens in each

A) kill me= SK,Town,Neutral. Where Neutral can betray you if he dosn't change
B) kill town= SK, Me, Neutral. Same situation but with me.
C) kill neutral= SK, Me, Town. King's game where Town decides who wins.
D) no action = we just sit here again....

So the question is, do you want to leave it up to luck of the neutral? Or the luck of town?

2048/Ninja: Don't spoil who you would side with in this scenario. I like to build anticipation.

So kik, your move (BTW im fairly confident i know who you are now)

Originally Posted by Kik

I am Indeed.

kik, heres my offer, im technacly in a position to lose, however i can cause you to lose also.

ToNight: I am not going to kill. Therfor you have the option of
A) killing me
B) killing town
C) killing neutral
D) no action

Heres what Happens in each

A) kill me= SK,Town,Neutral. Where Neutral can betray you if he dosn't change
B) kill town= SK, Me, Neutral. Same situation but with me.
C) kill neutral= SK, Me, Town. King's game where Town decides who wins.
D) no action = we just sit here again....

So the question is, do you want to leave it up to luck of the neutral? Or the luck of town?

2048/Ninja: Don't spoil who you would side with in this scenario. I like to build anticipation.

So kik, your move (BTW im fairly confident i know who you are now)

[QUOTE=Kik;452074]It doesn't look like a lynch is happening, so can we just skip day instead of waiting another 9 hours? I'll wait if I must, but it seems like a waste of time.[/QUOTE]

Were gonna wait. I am on break atm but I would like to talk with you before day is over will you be on in about 4 and half hrs? I have a proposition for you as well if your SK.

Originally Posted by Kik

It doesn't look like a lynch is happening, so can we just skip day instead of waiting another 9 hours? I'll wait if I must, but it seems like a waste of time.

Were gonna wait. I am on break atm but I would like to talk with you before day is over will you be on in about 4 and half hrs? I have a proposition for you as well if your SK.

[QUOTE=2048;452071]That is very untrue and you know it. If anything, the neutral has the best chances over anyone as long as we don't lynch him. The next one after him would be the SK.[/QUOTE]

Nah, I know better as well. You don't see the bigger picture.

Originally Posted by 2048

That is very untrue and you know it. If anything, the neutral has the best chances over anyone as long as we don't lynch him. The next one after him would be the SK.

Nah, I know better as well. You don't see the bigger picture.

btw no lynch garenteeds the loss of sk and neutral.

btw no lynch garenteeds the loss of sk and neutral.

[vote]kik[/vote]

-vote kik

[QUOTE=2048;452056]I don't like that coming from the SK....[/QUOTE]

If you wont vote, then we can just lynch you.

[vote]2048[/vote]

If kik is not sk and is mafia/peaceful. SK gets double kill anyway.

Originally Posted by 2048

I don't like that coming from the SK....

If you wont vote, then we can just lynch you.

-vote 2048

If kik is not sk and is mafia/peaceful. SK gets double kill anyway.

2048, if your town, lets have a gentleman agreement to let FN decide victor?

2048, if your town, lets have a gentleman agreement to let FN decide victor?

[unvote][/unvote]

i want to hammer

-unvote

i want to hammer

Plus your wincon states you can only win with Town or Warmongers unless you made it change. SO for you to win there needs to be a hit on sk.

Plus your wincon states you can only win with Town or Warmongers unless you made it change. SO for you to win there needs to be a hit on sk.

[QUOTE=Fruit Ninja;452042]Town lynch = sk kills warmonger, sk wins
SK lynch = warmonger kills town. Warmonger wins
Warmonger lynch = SK kills town, SK wins
No lynch = SK attacks town or mafia, SK or mafia wins.

IDK who to lynch.[/QUOTE]

Your understand the fact that all 4 can also end with them attacking you? That's why there needs to be lynch today.

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

Town lynch = sk kills warmonger, sk wins
SK lynch = warmonger kills town. Warmonger wins
Warmonger lynch = SK kills town, SK wins
No lynch = SK attacks town or mafia, SK or mafia wins.

IDK who to lynch.

Your understand the fact that all 4 can also end with them attacking you? That's why there needs to be lynch today.

[QUOTE=2048;452040]Well any lynch = town lose. Town's only chance is for no lynch to happen.[/QUOTE]

That includes skip day.

it this atm: SK, Mafia, Neutral, Town

Also whats stopping SK or Mafia from killing neutral to cost him his win? We lynch today.

Originally Posted by 2048

Well any lynch = town lose. Town's only chance is for no lynch to happen.

That includes skip day.

it this atm: SK, Mafia, Neutral, Town

Also whats stopping SK or Mafia from killing neutral to cost him his win? We lynch today.

[vote]2048[/vote]

we need to lynch

-vote 2048

we need to lynch

I still doubt it but if you think that i like to see it be wrong again.

[vote]Instagram [/vote]

Also 4pic not getting feedback makes me doubt hes scum atm.

I still doubt it but if you think that i like to see it be wrong again.

-vote Instagram

Also 4pic not getting feedback makes me doubt hes scum atm.

[QUOTE=Fruit Ninja;451889]imo Kik is more scummy than Instagram.

[vote]Instagram[/vote]

If you guys post explanations on who should be lynched and how that will benefit [U]me[/U] then I will vote that person.[/QUOTE]

I would say kik due to it being possible SK. Then it ends up being 2 scums, 1 neutral, 3 towns. It creates vote block and lets you win with scums b/c they kill town then lynch last and survive. You also have to assume the scums to be dick and kill you if they know they will lose.

Also, when did they say it was randomized?

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

imo Kik is more scummy than Instagram.

-vote Instagram

If you guys post explanations on who should be lynched and how that will benefit me then I will vote that person.

I would say kik due to it being possible SK. Then it ends up being 2 scums, 1 neutral, 3 towns. It creates vote block and lets you win with scums b/c they kill town then lynch last and survive. You also have to assume the scums to be dick and kill you if they know they will lose.

Also, when did they say it was randomized?

[QUOTE=Cut the Rope;451888]Just because there's not a CC doesn't mean Instagram's claim is valid.
1) The real doctor may not want to CC to avoid being killed.
2) The doctor may not exist as I have already proposed in this scenario based on some of my mechanics analysis. RNG dictated the roles per the mods. :)

I don't think the SK would have taken care of Instagram (assuming it's not Instagram which is IMO foolish after Angry Birds didn't hammer because Mafia is scared of SK death because then town might win). Instagram was actively doing the mafia's work for them and IMO was more destructive than the mafia (assuming they are the SK). So Instagram for mafia MVP.[/QUOTE]

You are aware that you have basically revealed the doctor though right? You assume 2048 is last PR. So if instagram is not the doc you just painted him as doc. You have also assume Mods/host random roles, I know they most likely did not. They would make something more balanced instead of random.

There is always a doctor in FMs as far as I have seen. Also AB has also been very inactive so it could merely just be that he is not here.

There are so many other scenarios that counteract what you that I think your just trying to cut down all theories that may be possible.

Let's do something: assume instagram is town peaceful what then? All of your theories you have been doing has been wrong. If this is wrong what next?

Originally Posted by Cut the Rope

Just because there's not a CC doesn't mean Instagram's claim is valid.
1) The real doctor may not want to CC to avoid being killed.
2) The doctor may not exist as I have already proposed in this scenario based on some of my mechanics analysis. RNG dictated the roles per the mods.

I don't think the SK would have taken care of Instagram (assuming it's not Instagram which is IMO foolish after Angry Birds didn't hammer because Mafia is scared of SK death because then town might win). Instagram was actively doing the mafia's work for them and IMO was more destructive than the mafia (assuming they are the SK). So Instagram for mafia MVP.

You are aware that you have basically revealed the doctor though right? You assume 2048 is last PR. So if instagram is not the doc you just painted him as doc. You have also assume Mods/host random roles, I know they most likely did not. They would make something more balanced instead of random.

There is always a doctor in FMs as far as I have seen. Also AB has also been very inactive so it could merely just be that he is not here.

There are so many other scenarios that counteract what you that I think your just trying to cut down all theories that may be possible.

Let's do something: assume instagram is town peaceful what then? All of your theories you have been doing has been wrong. If this is wrong what next?

I don't see any CC of doctor. I'm going to hold off for a bit. I think SK would take care of him anyway if he did lie or not. Also if 2048 is the last PR. Wouldn't warmongers just kill him? Quiz suspected kik, kik also lurked as much as AB. I thing you logic is flawed on it. I will only switch my vote if we can't get hammer at end of day.

I don't see any CC of doctor. I'm going to hold off for a bit. I think SK would take care of him anyway if he did lie or not. Also if 2048 is the last PR. Wouldn't warmongers just kill him? Quiz suspected kik, kik also lurked as much as AB. I thing you logic is flawed on it. I will only switch my vote if we can't get hammer at end of day.

just woke up again. One moment.

just woke up again. One moment.

That was a good night sleep. Anyway looking through and catching up, I have thought about some of the stuff old players have said. Quiz was town yes, but the question is why was she killed by DDK and not warmongers. She always suspected kik. But it looks like kik was always able to slip by the radar with her due to CTR and other stuff. It could be a wifom game but I'm gonna go with the basic idea and say its kik.

[vote]kik[/vote]

I should be around for most of the day but will be checking in and out.

That was a good night sleep. Anyway looking through and catching up, I have thought about some of the stuff old players have said. Quiz was town yes, but the question is why was she killed by DDK and not warmongers. She always suspected kik. But it looks like kik was always able to slip by the radar with her due to CTR and other stuff. It could be a wifom game but I'm gonna go with the basic idea and say its kik.

-vote kik

I should be around for most of the day but will be checking in and out.

[QUOTE=2048;451814]I am not going to make a statement on that.[/QUOTE]

Fair enough.

Originally Posted by 2048

I am not going to make a statement on that.

Fair enough.

[QUOTE=2048;451812]Either way, if we don't have 2 scum die with this day and night, town will be down on votes.[/QUOTE]

Agreed, but it still begs the question, is neutral considered a scum at this phase? What do you think?

Originally Posted by 2048

Either way, if we don't have 2 scum die with this day and night, town will be down on votes.

Agreed, but it still begs the question, is neutral considered a scum at this phase? What do you think?

[QUOTE=2048;451808]So basically CtR is saying not to lynch anyone.....
The results being there is a 33% chance SK will kill a mafia. I'm take that as a 2/5 chance by leaving the researcher out. So 40% chance to kill ONE mafia.
Mean while mafia would kill 1 town.(I do not see a reason for the SK to kill the researcher)
Leave either:
1 scums, neutral, sk, 3 towns. 40% chance
OR
2 scums, neutral sk, 2 towns. 60% chance

Going with the second, town lost.

Even with a first....it's still a bad hit for town at only half votes....

I believe a no lynch is basically throwing in the towel for town and can't accept it.[/QUOTE]

Ya but my theories are only basic level there are other thing that we could account for but i dunno how to calculate it really.

Other possible scenarios:
Mafia scums hit sk (sk is immune) sk hits town
Mafia scums and SK both hit same target
Mafia scums hit SK and dies (unlikely but possible)
Cross fire of one hits one

I mean there are others that I could probably think of. The problem is there are so many outcomes that it is near impossible (at least for me) to figure out and what would be optimal.

I agree on scum lynch, but the question is this, could we lynch neutral and still have a possible good outcome?

@CTR what is your feedback btw?

Originally Posted by 2048

So basically CtR is saying not to lynch anyone.....
The results being there is a 33% chance SK will kill a mafia. I'm take that as a 2/5 chance by leaving the researcher out. So 40% chance to kill ONE mafia.
Mean while mafia would kill 1 town.(I do not see a reason for the SK to kill the researcher)
Leave either:
1 scums, neutral, sk, 3 towns. 40% chance
OR
2 scums, neutral sk, 2 towns. 60% chance

Going with the second, town lost.

Even with a first....it's still a bad hit for town at only half votes....

I believe a no lynch is basically throwing in the towel for town and can't accept it.

Ya but my theories are only basic level there are other thing that we could account for but i dunno how to calculate it really.

Other possible scenarios:
Mafia scums hit sk (sk is immune) sk hits town
Mafia scums and SK both hit same target
Mafia scums hit SK and dies (unlikely but possible)
Cross fire of one hits one

I mean there are others that I could probably think of. The problem is there are so many outcomes that it is near impossible (at least for me) to figure out and what would be optimal.

I agree on scum lynch, but the question is this, could we lynch neutral and still have a possible good outcome?

@CTR what is your feedback btw?

[QUOTE=2048;451799]the odds of SK hitting only mafia....?[/QUOTE]

player list:

Kik
Instagram
Angry Birds
2048
4pics1word
Cut The Rope
Fruit Ninja
Piano Tiles

each scenario:

no lynch: 2 scums, neutral, sk, 4 towns. Leaves 2/6 or 1/3 = 33%
lynch scum: 1 scum, neutral, sk, 4 towns. Leaves 1/5 = 25%
Lynch town (PR): 2 scums, neutral, sk, 3 towns: 2/5 = 40%
Lynch town (Peacekeeper): 2 scums, neutral, sk, 3 towns: 2/5 again? or would that be 4/5
Lynch SK: irrelevant
Lynch neutral: 2 scums, sk, 4 towns: 2/6 or 1/3 = 33%

Originally Posted by 2048

the odds of SK hitting only mafia....?

player list:

Kik
Instagram
Angry Birds
2048
4pics1word
Cut The Rope
Fruit Ninja
Piano Tiles

each scenario:

no lynch: 2 scums, neutral, sk, 4 towns. Leaves 2/6 or 1/3 = 33%
lynch scum: 1 scum, neutral, sk, 4 towns. Leaves 1/5 = 25%
Lynch town (PR): 2 scums, neutral, sk, 3 towns: 2/5 = 40%
Lynch town (Peacekeeper): 2 scums, neutral, sk, 3 towns: 2/5 again? or would that be 4/5
Lynch SK: irrelevant
Lynch neutral: 2 scums, sk, 4 towns: 2/6 or 1/3 = 33%

CTR you seem to e unaware I have been busy with rl and work. I have been slowly glancing through but all of your theories and ideas have been wrong at each turn. You think you know my role? Go ahead guess. I get off work soon and will be around for tomorrow. All of your ideas can easily be debunked.

CTR you seem to e unaware I have been busy with rl and work. I have been slowly glancing through but all of your theories and ideas have been wrong at each turn. You think you know my role? Go ahead guess. I get off work soon and will be around for tomorrow. All of your ideas can easily be debunked.

Night everyone (at least where i am XP). Just got off work. Seems I have not missed much yet. I should be here now that weekend is here and work has settled down a bit.

@Cut the Rope:

I dunno where your trying to take form this exactly but I will tag along. Nothing happened to me.

Night everyone (at least where i am XP). Just got off work. Seems I have not missed much yet. I should be here now that weekend is here and work has settled down a bit.

@Cut the Rope:

I dunno where your trying to take form this exactly but I will tag along. Nothing happened to me.

Someone give me an update. I just got home and tired. I'll be up for like a half-hour then I'm going to sleep. Gotta work in the morning.

Someone give me an update. I just got home and tired. I'll be up for like a half-hour then I'm going to sleep. Gotta work in the morning.

[QUOTE=Words with Friends;449981]

piano, even if it is a rehash you state where you are. rehash cannot be an evasion mechanism. give something or get on my shit list.[/QUOTE]

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Funny thing is, I'm taking a shit as I post this. When something catches my interest you will know. Reading a shit ton of post about mechanics and stupid crap is not worth my time.

So I'll take the shit list, or better yet the dip (as in weed) list.

Originally Posted by Words with Friends

piano, even if it is a rehash you state where you are. rehash cannot be an evasion mechanism. give something or get on my shit list.

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Funny thing is, I'm taking a shit as I post this. When something catches my interest you will know. Reading a shit ton of post about mechanics and stupid crap is not worth my time.

So I'll take the shit list, or better yet the dip (as in weed) list.

Also given the fact that everyone has basically said everything that I can think of, I don't have to much to say.

Also given the fact that everyone has basically said everything that I can think of, I don't have to much to say.

[QUOTE=Words with Friends;449970]lured gains happiness so Vine is at 1 or 2 happiness.

piano, i have been trying.

both, reads so far? piano you have been rather quiet.[/QUOTE]

Oh apparently I missed this. I have been quite more so that I am quite busy (work mostly). I haven't really read up on everything yet. Mostly what I have seen from everyone is this:

"Build this"

"No here's what we need to do"

"OMG THAT PLAN IS SCUMMY"

ect

Really I don't care overall who wants to speculate on what mechanics and roles and stuff, but anyone whose doing that is not getting town points from me. For me its a waste of my time and give me no info to work with in long run.

Originally Posted by Words with Friends

lured gains happiness so Vine is at 1 or 2 happiness.

piano, i have been trying.

both, reads so far? piano you have been rather quiet.

Oh apparently I missed this. I have been quite more so that I am quite busy (work mostly). I haven't really read up on everything yet. Mostly what I have seen from everyone is this:

"Build this"

"No here's what we need to do"

"OMG THAT PLAN IS SCUMMY"

ect

Really I don't care overall who wants to speculate on what mechanics and roles and stuff, but anyone whose doing that is not getting town points from me. For me its a waste of my time and give me no info to work with in long run.

[COLOR="#00FF00"]Does a lured target gain an extra happiness along with default happiness?[/COLOR]

Maybe this can answer it.

Does a lured target gain an extra happiness along with default happiness?

Maybe this can answer it.

[QUOTE=Snapchat;449969]Could someone explain this for me.

We start off with 1 Happiness. If she was lured then she lost 1 happiness and gained it back putting her at +1 happiness still. If lured doesn't take a happiness then she gained 1 happiness and another 1 happiness from the cultural because she took no action putting her at +3 happiness. Idk if I am missing something, but idk how she is at 2 happiness.[/QUOTE]

*glares at people ignoring question to have discussion besides mechanics*

[quote=setup]Cultural
You are immune to the detriments of Unhappiness. At night, you may visit a player to display a painting, forcing them to stay at home if they visited you AND visit another player to discuss music tours in your country, forcing them to visit you. [COLOR="#00FF00"]The person you lured will gain 1 Happiness and the person you repelled will lose 1 Happiness, regardless of whether or not the ability was successful.[/COLOR] 3 usages.[/quote]

Answer it?

Originally Posted by Snapchat

Could someone explain this for me.

We start off with 1 Happiness. If she was lured then she lost 1 happiness and gained it back putting her at +1 happiness still. If lured doesn't take a happiness then she gained 1 happiness and another 1 happiness from the cultural because she took no action putting her at +3 happiness. Idk if I am missing something, but idk how she is at 2 happiness.

*glares at people ignoring question to have discussion besides mechanics*

Originally Posted by setup

Cultural
You are immune to the detriments of Unhappiness. At night, you may visit a player to display a painting, forcing them to stay at home if they visited you AND visit another player to discuss music tours in your country, forcing them to visit you. The person you lured will gain 1 Happiness and the person you repelled will lose 1 Happiness, regardless of whether or not the ability was successful. 3 usages.

Answer it?

*walks into conversation about mechanics*

*looks around and then screams*

CAN WE DISCUSS SOMETHING DIFFERENT OTHER THEN HOW TO BREAK A MECHANIC RIGHT NOW?

*sits down and watches pissing contest ensure*

*walks into conversation about mechanics*

*looks around and then screams*

CAN WE DISCUSS SOMETHING DIFFERENT OTHER THEN HOW TO BREAK A MECHANIC RIGHT NOW?

*sits down and watches pissing contest ensure*

Dat wall post. I think my brain died a little trying to understand that.

Dat wall post. I think my brain died a little trying to understand that.

[QUOTE=2048;449755]But I oh so love pissing contests. Wanna challenge me to whom is farthest?[/QUOTE]

YES! Then we can compare dicks with him and then maybe circle jerk. I bet I would go off last (unless if someone starts making noise).

Originally Posted by 2048

But I oh so love pissing contests. Wanna challenge me to whom is farthest?

YES! Then we can compare dicks with him and then maybe circle jerk. I bet I would go off last (unless if someone starts making noise).

[QUOTE=2048;449745]*twitch*

The production is what's making this M-FM unique.... It's kinda bad as saying that you don't know what any of the roles are...[/QUOTE]

We need an FM named twitch now.

But yes I didn't really even look at setup, much less try to understand it atm.

But is it also sad I find your pissing contest with CoC rather amusing?

Originally Posted by 2048

*twitch*

The production is what's making this M-FM unique.... It's kinda bad as saying that you don't know what any of the roles are...

We need an FM named twitch now.

But yes I didn't really even look at setup, much less try to understand it atm.

But is it also sad I find your pissing contest with CoC rather amusing?

So are we still talking about this production stuff? So far that's what I see. Personally it make just about no sense to me right now. Does someone want to actually explain how it exactly works or should I be here acting like I know what this discussion is about?

So are we still talking about this production stuff? So far that's what I see. Personally it make just about no sense to me right now. Does someone want to actually explain how it exactly works or should I be here acting like I know what this discussion is about?

Said it*.

Said it*.

Oh btw when I first looked at my FM name, I thought it Titties.

Oh btw when I first looked at my FM name, I thought it Titties.

So I had to look up what the fuck my thing was and found this:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gG4RdCMaqY[/url]

Enjoy! I'm going to try to fix something and check back.

So I had to look up what the fuck my thing was and found this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gG4RdCMaqY

Enjoy! I'm going to try to fix something and check back.