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[QUOTE=S-FM :(;826927]UH NO PLS XD


... And why is that?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=S-FM swag98;826763]1) MP is getting lynched, you can't kill him
2) bungalow has proven intellect with his wallpost, we will get more out of him and are not killing him before that happens
3) like almost everyone else, with the exception of thanos I guess, has done something to warrant surviving
4) you were the one to suggest thanos as first thing. we don't do that, ever[/QUOTE]

Look, it's good for you actually. I'm taking responsibility off of you even.

Originally Posted by S-FM :(

UH NO PLS XD


... And why is that?

Originally Posted by S-FM swag98

1) MP is getting lynched, you can't kill him
2) bungalow has proven intellect with his wallpost, we will get more out of him and are not killing him before that happens
3) like almost everyone else, with the exception of thanos I guess, has done something to warrant surviving
4) you were the one to suggest thanos as first thing. we don't do that, ever

Look, it's good for you actually. I'm taking responsibility off of you even.

[QUOTE=S-FM :(;826912]Why is peepee poo poo verified scum btw? @swag98 you said that too earlier[/QUOTE]

I did not. What I did say is that he is the one you are using your nightkill on unless you want my vote on yourself glued for the remainder of your life in this game

Originally Posted by S-FM :(

Why is peepee poo poo verified scum btw? @swag98 you said that too earlier

I did not. What I did say is that he is the one you are using your nightkill on unless you want my vote on yourself glued for the remainder of your life in this game

[QUOTE=S-FM deviantart;826902]yes please kill yourself and find ALL the scum in the game one day 1.

you guys dont get it. this isnt about who is lying about their role.

this is about odds. do we keep [COLOR="#FF0000"]KNOWN[/COLOR] scummy player with a killing role alive for revealing it

or [COLOR="#FF0000"]let a SLIGHTLY LESS scummy player with a low-chance kamikaze[/COLOR] die instead

or even worse BOTH[/QUOTE]

what

Originally Posted by S-FM deviantart

yes please kill yourself and find ALL the scum in the game one day 1.

you guys dont get it. this isnt about who is lying about their role.

this is about odds. do we keep KNOWN scummy player with a killing role alive for revealing it

or let a SLIGHTLY LESS scummy player with a low-chance kamikaze die instead

or even worse BOTH

what

[QUOTE=S-FM deviantart;826899]FailFish[/QUOTE]

in the event masterpiece is telling the truth smileyman dies from his ability. What even are you trying to say there?

Originally Posted by S-FM deviantart

in the event masterpiece is telling the truth smileyman dies from his ability. What even are you trying to say there?

Harold and peepee are both not on this train right now, for the record.

S-FM Masterpiece (6 [L-1]):
S-FM yoek, S-FM swag98, S-FM :(, S-FM bungalow, S-FM Hey peter, S-FM jfk

S-FM :( (3 [L-4]):
S-FM screams, S-FM deviantart, S-FM Masterpiece

S-FM bungalow (1 [L-6]):
S-FM Harold

Harold and peepee are both not on this train right now, for the record.

S-FM Masterpiece (6 [L-1]):
S-FM yoek, S-FM swag98, S-FM , S-FM bungalow, S-FM Hey peter, S-FM jfk

S-FM (3 [L-4]):
S-FM screams, S-FM deviantart, S-FM Masterpiece

S-FM bungalow (1 [L-6]):
S-FM Harold

This is so fucking scummy to try to lynch smileyman with his roleclaim when we have a fucking daytime thanos claim who seems to be refusing to snap

This is so fucking scummy to try to lynch smileyman with his roleclaim when we have a fucking daytime thanos claim who seems to be refusing to snap

[QUOTE=S-FM Harold;826834]breh, we spend a whole day saying we have to lynch today
and then this
lel[/QUOTE]

You did not.
Your only ever contributive post came like 2 hours before EoD.

Originally Posted by S-FM Harold

breh, we spend a whole day saying we have to lynch today
and then this
lel

You did not.
Your only ever contributive post came like 2 hours before EoD.

[QUOTE=S-FM deviantart;826818]were actually about to lose 2+ town members overnight

great start[/QUOTE]

We are not.
Unless you have TMI anyway.

Originally Posted by S-FM deviantart

were actually about to lose 2+ town members overnight

great start

We are not.
Unless you have TMI anyway.

[QUOTE=S-FM deviantart;826798]almost ALL of you had no issues lynching smiley all day.

what the fuck happened? you dont think hes a liability?

you think hes more townie because hes a killer?

get a grip[/QUOTE]

I think he's more towny because he claimed a believable and confirmable role.
How is that so hard to understand

Originally Posted by S-FM deviantart

almost ALL of you had no issues lynching smiley all day.

what the fuck happened? you dont think hes a liability?

you think hes more townie because hes a killer?

get a grip

I think he's more towny because he claimed a believable and confirmable role.
How is that so hard to understand

[QUOTE=S-FM :(;826769]But why not kill Deviant then???[/QUOTE]

because deviant is providing good content and because you want him dead. Everyone else wants him alive, you either kill peepee or you're next. This is not negotiable.

Originally Posted by S-FM :(

But why not kill Deviant then???

because deviant is providing good content and because you want him dead. Everyone else wants him alive, you either kill peepee or you're next. This is not negotiable.

[QUOTE=S-FM Peepee poo poo;826755]Wrong. fake. Die.

[SIZE=7][COLOR="#00FF00"]Roles can't be written to only belong to a certain category (in this case, Town). If you were Scum then what do you do with this role? Shove it up your ass.
[/COLOR][/SIZE]
Liar.[/QUOTE]

I'll just put this in bold letters for screams there

Originally Posted by S-FM Peepee poo poo

Wrong. fake. Die.

Roles can't be written to only belong to a certain category (in this case, Town). If you were Scum then what do you do with this role? Shove it up your ass.

Liar.

I'll just put this in bold letters for screams there

[QUOTE=S-FM :(;826742]Oh right. But what did he do then? Why do u want me to kill him swag[/QUOTE]

1) MP is getting lynched, you can't kill him
2) bungalow has proven intellect with his wallpost, we will get more out of him and are not killing him before that happens
3) like almost everyone else, with the exception of thanos I guess, has done something to warrant surviving
4) you were the one to suggest thanos as first thing. we don't do that, ever

Originally Posted by S-FM :(

Oh right. But what did he do then? Why do u want me to kill him swag

1) MP is getting lynched, you can't kill him
2) bungalow has proven intellect with his wallpost, we will get more out of him and are not killing him before that happens
3) like almost everyone else, with the exception of thanos I guess, has done something to warrant surviving
4) you were the one to suggest thanos as first thing. we don't do that, ever

[QUOTE=S-FM :(;826707]Masterpiece, please claim your role at this point. I want to know if it's useful to selfpres vote you because apparently Deviant isn't getting lynched. I'll have to mindcontrol him D:[/QUOTE]

You will not mindcontrol deviant. Either you mindcontrol peepee or you're the lynch. This is non negotiable.

Originally Posted by S-FM :(

Masterpiece, please claim your role at this point. I want to know if it's useful to selfpres vote you because apparently Deviant isn't getting lynched. I'll have to mindcontrol him D:

You will not mindcontrol deviant. Either you mindcontrol peepee or you're the lynch. This is non negotiable.

[QUOTE=S-FM deviantart;826702]regardless of whether it's a real role. who the fuck said we as town members need to let a mind controlling blackmailing killing role live regardless of his fucking alignment

he is a liability to all of us. logic bro i thought youd understand. wrong side of the fucking fence.[/QUOTE]

He claimed to blackmail himself, he claimed his kill to be delayed by one night.
I see no reason whatsoever on why anyone with instant kill and regular blackmail would even mention those words. It makes no sense for scum at all.
That is logic. How do you suddenly see a liability in that? How the fuck

Originally Posted by S-FM deviantart

regardless of whether it's a real role. who the fuck said we as town members need to let a mind controlling blackmailing killing role live regardless of his fucking alignment

he is a liability to all of us. logic bro i thought youd understand. wrong side of the fucking fence.

He claimed to blackmail himself, he claimed his kill to be delayed by one night.
I see no reason whatsoever on why anyone with instant kill and regular blackmail would even mention those words. It makes no sense for scum at all.
That is logic. How do you suddenly see a liability in that? How the fuck

[QUOTE=S-FM screams;826695]Well I'm not lynching anyone else.

So it looks like it will be a no lynch day or you need to get enough people on MP or someone else.[/QUOTE]

Are you fucking townreading MP now solely because Smileyman claimed his role? Are you actually that fake?

Originally Posted by S-FM screams

Well I'm not lynching anyone else.

So it looks like it will be a no lynch day or you need to get enough people on MP or someone else.

Are you fucking townreading MP now solely because Smileyman claimed his role? Are you actually that fake?

I refuse to lynch a player for a valid roleclaim that everyone is fucking believing even. That's bullshit in itself.

I refuse to lynch a player for a valid roleclaim that everyone is fucking believing even. That's bullshit in itself.

[QUOTE=S-FM screams;826682]Right.[/QUOTE]

If it were to work in a way that'd even make it go through after his death, which is complete fucking bullshit and incredibly unlikely,
[SIZE=5][COLOR="#00FF00"]WHY THE FUCK WOULD SCUM REVEAL SOMETHING LIKE THAT[/COLOR][/SIZE]

Originally Posted by S-FM screams

Right.

If it were to work in a way that'd even make it go through after his death, which is complete fucking bullshit and incredibly unlikely,
WHY THE FUCK WOULD SCUM REVEAL SOMETHING LIKE THAT

[QUOTE=S-FM screams;826669]THAT'S NOT HOW THAT WORKS, [SIZE=7][COLOR="#00FF00"]THE KILL GOES THROUGH NO MATTER WHAT.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/QUOTE]

[SIZE=7][COLOR="#00FF00"]HOW THE FUCK DOES A DEAD MAN KILL? WHEN THE FUCK DID YOU EVER SEE THAT IN FM?[/COLOR][/SIZE]

Originally Posted by S-FM screams

THAT'S NOT HOW THAT WORKS, THE KILL GOES THROUGH NO MATTER WHAT.

HOW THE FUCK DOES A DEAD MAN KILL? WHEN THE FUCK DID YOU EVER SEE THAT IN FM?

[QUOTE=S-FM screams;826652]Did I say role block?

I DONT GET TO REVEAL MY SECOND CHECK IF I DIE NIGHT TWO YOU FUCKING DINGUS[/QUOTE]

[SIZE=7]YOU GET TO REVEAL YOUR FIRST CHECK. WE CAN LYNCH SMILEYMAN BEFORE THE KILL HAPPENS IF IT TARGETS YOU. YOU DON'T FUCKING GET KILLED BY HIM IF WE LYNCH HIM FIRST.[/SIZE]

Originally Posted by S-FM screams

Did I say role block?

I DONT GET TO REVEAL MY SECOND CHECK IF I DIE NIGHT TWO YOU FUCKING DINGUS

YOU GET TO REVEAL YOUR FIRST CHECK. WE CAN LYNCH SMILEYMAN BEFORE THE KILL HAPPENS IF IT TARGETS YOU. YOU DON'T FUCKING GET KILLED BY HIM IF WE LYNCH HIM FIRST.

[QUOTE=S-FM deviantart;826651]what does that ordinance shit mean to you?[/QUOTE]

What do you mean what?
We as a town decide who the fuck he kills, then he does that.
His roleclaim looks genuine as fuck, you all fucking sound like you buy it and still want it gone.

Originally Posted by S-FM deviantart

what does that ordinance shit mean to you?

What do you mean what?
We as a town decide who the fuck he kills, then he does that.
His roleclaim looks genuine as fuck, you all fucking sound like you buy it and still want it gone.

[QUOTE=S-FM screams;826644]I don't know, maybe it was his fucking directive?

If he's telling the truth.


Holy shit, why are people going to bat for him.

He's been scummy all game.[/QUOTE]

[SIZE=7]Are you saying he has been blackmailed to only ever say the truth today? Did you fucking claim that in this post right there? What the fuck?[/SIZE]

Originally Posted by S-FM screams

I don't know, maybe it was his fucking directive?

If he's telling the truth.


Holy shit, why are people going to bat for him.

He's been scummy all game.

Are you saying he has been blackmailed to only ever say the truth today? Did you fucking claim that in this post right there? What the fuck?

[QUOTE=S-FM screams;826628]NIGHT ONE -- :( CONTROLS OR WHATEVER HE DOES
DAY 2: VICTIM: SHIT I GOT FUCKED by mind control and am going to die, we lynch :(
NIGHT 2: VICTIM DIES. NO IF'S ANDS OR BUTTS.

Day 1 we could mislynch
then night 1 :( sets his unstoppable kill
then we lost 2 fucking people for what? TO SEE WHAT HE DOES? NO SORRY.[/QUOTE]

He said his mind control is the kill, not a roleblock. If you get roleblack CLAIM AND WE LYNCH, THAT IS A CHECK IN ITSELF

Originally Posted by S-FM screams

NIGHT ONE -- CONTROLS OR WHATEVER HE DOES
DAY 2: VICTIM: SHIT I GOT FUCKED by mind control and am going to die, we lynch
NIGHT 2: VICTIM DIES. NO IF'S ANDS OR BUTTS.

Day 1 we could mislynch
then night 1 sets his unstoppable kill
then we lost 2 fucking people for what? TO SEE WHAT HE DOES? NO SORRY.

He said his mind control is the kill, not a roleblock. If you get roleblack CLAIM AND WE LYNCH, THAT IS A CHECK IN ITSELF

[QUOTE=S-FM deviantart;826625]swag what if the ordinance shit causes our cop to not be able to give the check?[/QUOTE]

Why the fuck would he reveal a blackmail and say it only ever hits himself if he were to choose targets?
Why the fuck would scum not just claim literally any other role?

Originally Posted by S-FM deviantart

swag what if the ordinance shit causes our cop to not be able to give the check?

Why the fuck would he reveal a blackmail and say it only ever hits himself if he were to choose targets?
Why the fuck would scum not just claim literally any other role?

[QUOTE=S-FM screams;826622]He said he doesn't know who his mom is or something ab she gets revealed when he dies.

So its actually 2 for 1 with his lynch as well.[/QUOTE]

How does that make sense for a scum role? Why would stealth make a role that reveals scum on death, scum?

Originally Posted by S-FM screams

He said he doesn't know who his mom is or something ab she gets revealed when he dies.

So its actually 2 for 1 with his lynch as well.

How does that make sense for a scum role? Why would stealth make a role that reveals scum on death, scum?

[QUOTE=S-FM screams;826613][SIZE=7][B][COLOR="#00FF00"]I HAVE A NIGHT IMMUNITY UNTIL I AM ATTACKED, NOT FOR ONE NIGHT. HOLY FUCKING SHIT.[/COLOR][/B][/SIZE][/QUOTE]

[SIZE=7][COLOR="#00FF00"]THIS MEANS THAT YOU WILL SURVIVE ONE NIGHT. YOU DO NOT NEED TWO NIGHTS TO GET A CHECK DONE. HOLY FUCKING SHIT.[[/COLOR]/SIZE]

Originally Posted by S-FM screams

I HAVE A NIGHT IMMUNITY UNTIL I AM ATTACKED, NOT FOR ONE NIGHT. HOLY FUCKING SHIT.

[SIZE=7]THIS MEANS THAT YOU WILL SURVIVE ONE NIGHT. YOU DO NOT NEED TWO NIGHTS TO GET A CHECK DONE. HOLY FUCKING SHIT.[/SIZE]

[QUOTE=S-FM jfk;826609]His kill yeets through all immunity so it dont matter.[/QUOTE]

but it's one night before it does that?

Originally Posted by S-FM jfk

His kill yeets through all immunity so it dont matter.

but it's one night before it does that?

[QUOTE=S-FM screams;826606]JUST BECAUSE ANY ROLE CAN BE ANY ALIGNMENT DOESN'T MEAN THE ROLE YOU ARE IS TOWN, AND THE SECRET MOM AND SHIT YOU POSTED DOES NOT LEND TO YOU BEING TOWN.


STOP SAYING WE CANT READ, [SIZE=7]IT'S JUST THAT I [B][I][U]DONT [/U][/I][/B]FUCKING BELIEVE YOU.[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

the secret mom would if anything be part of the rolecard. I don't see how that could possibly be AI?
Explain this please.

Originally Posted by S-FM screams

JUST BECAUSE ANY ROLE CAN BE ANY ALIGNMENT DOESN'T MEAN THE ROLE YOU ARE IS TOWN, AND THE SECRET MOM AND SHIT YOU POSTED DOES NOT LEND TO YOU BEING TOWN.


STOP SAYING WE CANT READ, IT'S JUST THAT I DONT FUCKING BELIEVE YOU.

the secret mom would if anything be part of the rolecard. I don't see how that could possibly be AI?
Explain this please.

Anyway, because I like Smileyman's claim and Bungalow I guess got in the clear with his one wallpost

[vote]S-FM Masterpiece[/vote]

Anyway, because I like Smileyman's claim and Bungalow I guess got in the clear with his one wallpost

-vote S-FM Masterpiece

[QUOTE=S-FM jfk;826601]He said he would do it on Thanos, i dont know i feel about that, cause its not like he scumreads thanos he is just saying he doesnt contribute[/QUOTE]

Who would you prefer to have it used on?
I'm suggesting to discuss this now. He will either follow or get lynched.

Originally Posted by S-FM jfk

He said he would do it on Thanos, i dont know i feel about that, cause its not like he scumreads thanos he is just saying he doesnt contribute

Who would you prefer to have it used on?
I'm suggesting to discuss this now. He will either follow or get lynched.

[QUOTE=S-FM screams;826596]b/c they could kill me.... and I'd have one check I could get out.

Why would we take the risk of leaving him alive?

Also takes me out, and I find out he's scum or neutral, that check is completely wasted anyway. I die and he dies. Why not just remove the risk now and force scum to attack me at night and burn my vest?[/QUOTE]

you claimed to have night immunity for one night, he claimed to have his kill delayed by one night.
How does that make you unable to check him?

Originally Posted by S-FM screams

b/c they could kill me.... and I'd have one check I could get out.

Why would we take the risk of leaving him alive?

Also takes me out, and I find out he's scum or neutral, that check is completely wasted anyway. I die and he dies. Why not just remove the risk now and force scum to attack me at night and burn my vest?

you claimed to have night immunity for one night, he claimed to have his kill delayed by one night.
How does that make you unable to check him?

Like, I'm fully sold on that claim right now and think it's pro town to just discuss his nightkill now and let him do it once. He also claims to get blackmailed every night.

Like, I'm fully sold on that claim right now and think it's pro town to just discuss his nightkill now and let him do it once. He also claims to get blackmailed every night.

Is it weird if I just really want to see Smileyman's role in action once

Is it weird if I just really want to see Smileyman's role in action once

[QUOTE=S-FM :(;826569]It has "directives", so I assume it's the Sengoku jidai style blackmail (you have a directive, if you dont follow it you die)

And see the post below yours, OTHER PEOPLE blackmail me but I choose the directives. Which is absolutely stupid, yes. but think about it, why would I make it up lol, HOW COULD I EVEN MAKE IT UP? I'm typing too fast to make up all of that crap, so you have to come to the conclusion that it's the TRUTH.[/QUOTE]

so who would you target?

Originally Posted by S-FM :(

It has "directives", so I assume it's the Sengoku jidai style blackmail (you have a directive, if you dont follow it you die)

And see the post below yours, OTHER PEOPLE blackmail me but I choose the directives. Which is absolutely stupid, yes. but think about it, why would I make it up lol, HOW COULD I EVEN MAKE IT UP? I'm typing too fast to make up all of that crap, so you have to come to the conclusion that it's the TRUTH.

so who would you target?

[QUOTE=S-FM :(;826558]DUDE. The kill doesn't happen immediatly, there is at least one night before it happens, and the target is aware that it will happen.

And if you fear for your own puny life, don't worry, I won't kill you because even though you can't read a setup, you are very very likely to be Town. If you die from a weird mental shot kill, then sure, lynch me lmao, but for now can you just consider the fact that lynching a townie is no bueno?[/QUOTE]

WHO would you target?
It's unstoppable, so why should we not just discuss it in the open?
[B][SIZE=5]How does your blackmail work?[/SIZE][/B]

Originally Posted by S-FM :(

DUDE. The kill doesn't happen immediatly, there is at least one night before it happens, and the target is aware that it will happen.

And if you fear for your own puny life, don't worry, I won't kill you because even though you can't read a setup, you are very very likely to be Town. If you die from a weird mental shot kill, then sure, lynch me lmao, but for now can you just consider the fact that lynching a townie is no bueno?

WHO would you target?
It's unstoppable, so why should we not just discuss it in the open?
How does your blackmail work?

[MENTION=44161]S-FM :([/MENTION] please explain your blackmail I need to know

@S-FM please explain your blackmail I need to know

[QUOTE=S-FM screams;826548]He has an unstoppable kill.

ugh[/QUOTE]

He also claims to get blackmailed by someone else every night

Originally Posted by S-FM screams

He has an unstoppable kill.

ugh

He also claims to get blackmailed by someone else every night

[QUOTE=S-FM :(;826539]HELLO I EXIST -_-[/QUOTE]

can you give some more specifics about the blackmail part?

Originally Posted by S-FM :(

HELLO I EXIST

can you give some more specifics about the blackmail part?

[QUOTE=S-FM deviantart;826536]hell we dont even know the specifics so asking seems moot.

you will leave alive scum that can kill our potential 'cop' unconditionally and blackmail him causing us to lose a check?[/QUOTE]

Do you actually think he is that much scummier than literally anybody else?
We can discuss his kill now. He would not get the choice of picking someone else, if he does we lynch him next.

Originally Posted by S-FM deviantart

hell we dont even know the specifics so asking seems moot.

you will leave alive scum that can kill our potential 'cop' unconditionally and blackmail him causing us to lose a check?

Do you actually think he is that much scummier than literally anybody else?
We can discuss his kill now. He would not get the choice of picking someone else, if he does we lynch him next.

Smileyman, who would you use your power on tonight if you could?
You said your kill is unavoidable, notifies the target instantly and gives them at least one night before it kills them. I don't see any reason to not just discuss it in the open.

Smileyman, who would you use your power on tonight if you could?
You said your kill is unavoidable, notifies the target instantly and gives them at least one night before it kills them. I don't see any reason to not just discuss it in the open.

[QUOTE=S-FM swag98;826520]This is easily the most believable roleclaim I've seen in FM so far btw[/QUOTE]

Minus the part about you choosing how players blackmail because that makes no sense

Originally Posted by S-FM swag98

This is easily the most believable roleclaim I've seen in FM so far btw

Minus the part about you choosing how players blackmail because that makes no sense

[QUOTE=S-FM :(;826517]xX.AustralianFBIAgentBruceWayneFrenchNation.Xx

That's my role name xD

The rolecard is horribly big and wordy, intentionally decieving and all.

I apparently have the ability to mindcontrol people, which is supposedly making them die at least one night later, and they are aware that they will die. [I]Nothing can stop that kill.[/I] It can happen in multiple ways that "only stealthbomber can know".

From my understanding of that weird crap, random players get to blackmail me but I get to choose the directives they give me... Which makes no sense, I know. But that's what's on my rolecard lol.

Also, I apparently reveal the identity of my mom when I die, but the rolecard says "a "random" player, but it's your mom" or something like that lol. I have no idea of what that really means, and as I said it's really wordy, sooo.... yeah.

Now, can you NOT lynch me please? I'm more or less a night-immunity piercing vigilante, that could always be useful lol.

Oh and I nearly forgot, there's something about a communication via SMS with the people who blackmail me, with messages under 180 chars iirc.[/QUOTE]

This is easily the most believable roleclaim I've seen in FM so far btw

Originally Posted by S-FM :(

xX.AustralianFBIAgentBruceWayneFrenchNation.Xx

That's my role name xD

The rolecard is horribly big and wordy, intentionally decieving and all.

I apparently have the ability to mindcontrol people, which is supposedly making them die at least one night later, and they are aware that they will die. Nothing can stop that kill. It can happen in multiple ways that "only stealthbomber can know".

From my understanding of that weird crap, random players get to blackmail me but I get to choose the directives they give me... Which makes no sense, I know. But that's what's on my rolecard lol.

Also, I apparently reveal the identity of my mom when I die, but the rolecard says "a "random" player, but it's your mom" or something like that lol. I have no idea of what that really means, and as I said it's really wordy, sooo.... yeah.

Now, can you NOT lynch me please? I'm more or less a night-immunity piercing vigilante, that could always be useful lol.

Oh and I nearly forgot, there's something about a communication via SMS with the people who blackmail me, with messages under 180 chars iirc.

This is easily the most believable roleclaim I've seen in FM so far btw

[QUOTE=S-FM :(;826518]Omg... [I][B][U]SELFPRESERVATION IS NOT A SCUMTELL, IT'S LITERALLY WHAT EVERYONE SHOULD DO[/U][/B][/I][/QUOTE]

Ok in that case… What is the difference between selfpreservation votes and deflecting votes?

Originally Posted by S-FM :(

Omg... SELFPRESERVATION IS NOT A SCUMTELL, IT'S LITERALLY WHAT EVERYONE SHOULD DO

Ok in that case… What is the difference between selfpreservation votes and deflecting votes?

[QUOTE=S-FM :(;826515]Nope, I wasn't doing that, because as you can READ if you have eyes and a brain to analyze what your eyes see, you can see that I was literally STARTING trains, which is the exact opposite of self-pres votes or "deflecting" votes.[/QUOTE]

You're saying you weren't doing it before, but now decided to start doing it? How does that nullify the scumtell?

Originally Posted by S-FM :(

Nope, I wasn't doing that, because as you can READ if you have eyes and a brain to analyze what your eyes see, you can see that I was literally STARTING trains, which is the exact opposite of self-pres votes or "deflecting" votes.

You're saying you weren't doing it before, but now decided to start doing it? How does that nullify the scumtell?

[QUOTE=S-FM :(;826507]Nope, I was doing something else that isn't game-related.

What do you mean about my post on Harold? If you want the short version, here it is : [COLOR="#FF0000"]I need to vote for my self-preservation, which means voting on my scummiest counterwagon. I townread Masterpiece, and Harold is not contributing[/COLOR] but has time to shitpost, which is arguably scummy and definetly anti-town, which is why I am voting him. I don't have strong scumreads anyway, so...


Oh, and while I think about it, here's a quick list of reads:


Town

Screams (The swat claim)
Masterpiece (Yep unpopular but I already explained, he's committing too much in what he says and he did it too early to be scum)

Yoek (Feels really TvT with Masterpiece, but doesn't have the individual town points Masterpiece has)
Swag98 (The N0 use claim)

The person who talks with "restrictions" with the weird head black-and-white avatar (That's weird stuff, I'm not sure about them but I give them the benefit of the doubt for now

Null - All the people I don't mention here

Deviantart (Felt genuine early on, but has a lot of strange things, he also happens to be one of the people who are pushing me the most and I genuinely think the push on me is really crappy lol)

Harold (Already explained, he shitposts but doesn't contribute)
Thanos square (Same as Harold but to a lesser extent, he shitposted less so maybe he has no time)

Scum

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I do know that I lack scumreads and have a lot of nulls, but that's where I am at right now with no meta and no rolelist.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=S-FM :(;826489]...lol

Well now I guess it's time for a selfpres vote heh? Masterpiece is town imo so no, even though he's not exactly the most helpful player around. Harold on the other hand is just [I]not towny[/I], while he had time to shitpost a lot, so [vote]Harold[/vote] looks good.

Also, to the guy who said [COLOR="#FF0000"]I was "deflecting votes" on low activity players, that's literally false[/COLOR]. I kept scum hunting and I came to the legit conclusion (which is a common conclusion for people who aren't even pressured so shut up lol) that inactives needed to be pressured and ultimately lynched if they don't move. If you wanted me to stop scumhunting and only defend from crappy attacks that go like this : "Don't reaction test and pressure people, it's scummy"... well I'm sorry not sorry but you can go consider the following for yourself (in-game of course) : :noose:[/QUOTE]

Red part is the contradiction

Originally Posted by S-FM :(

Nope, I was doing something else that isn't game-related.

What do you mean about my post on Harold? If you want the short version, here it is : I need to vote for my self-preservation, which means voting on my scummiest counterwagon. I townread Masterpiece, and Harold is not contributing but has time to shitpost, which is arguably scummy and definetly anti-town, which is why I am voting him. I don't have strong scumreads anyway, so...


Oh, and while I think about it, here's a quick list of reads:


Town

Screams (The swat claim)
Masterpiece (Yep unpopular but I already explained, he's committing too much in what he says and he did it too early to be scum)

Yoek (Feels really TvT with Masterpiece, but doesn't have the individual town points Masterpiece has)
Swag98 (The N0 use claim)

The person who talks with "restrictions" with the weird head black-and-white avatar (That's weird stuff, I'm not sure about them but I give them the benefit of the doubt for now

Null - All the people I don't mention here

Deviantart (Felt genuine early on, but has a lot of strange things, he also happens to be one of the people who are pushing me the most and I genuinely think the push on me is really crappy lol)

Harold (Already explained, he shitposts but doesn't contribute)
Thanos square (Same as Harold but to a lesser extent, he shitposted less so maybe he has no time)

Scum

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I do know that I lack scumreads and have a lot of nulls, but that's where I am at right now with no meta and no rolelist.

Originally Posted by S-FM :(

...lol

Well now I guess it's time for a selfpres vote heh? Masterpiece is town imo so no, even though he's not exactly the most helpful player around. Harold on the other hand is just not towny, while he had time to shitpost a lot, so

-vote Harold

looks good.

Also, to the guy who said I was "deflecting votes" on low activity players, that's literally false. I kept scum hunting and I came to the legit conclusion (which is a common conclusion for people who aren't even pressured so shut up lol) that inactives needed to be pressured and ultimately lynched if they don't move. If you wanted me to stop scumhunting and only defend from crappy attacks that go like this : "Don't reaction test and pressure people, it's scummy"... well I'm sorry not sorry but you can go consider the following for yourself (in-game of course) :

Red part is the contradiction

@smileyman are you actually done with your posting already?
If yes, can you reread your post with the Harold vote again and write it down in a different way please?

@smileyman are you actually done with your posting already?
If yes, can you reread your post with the Harold vote again and write it down in a different way please?

[QUOTE=S-FM THANOS SQUARE;826495]I AM THANOS VANQUISHER OF WORLDS AND THE TRUE MEANING OF COMMUNISM![/QUOTE]

I was just starting to miss you

Originally Posted by S-FM THANOS SQUARE

I AM THANOS VANQUISHER OF WORLDS AND THE TRUE MEANING OF COMMUNISM!

I was just starting to miss you

[QUOTE=S-FM yoek;826467]Then I believe screams was agreeing with me in the thread, so masterpiece assumed that we must be a "team" of some sort because we were both pushing at him.

So I don't think he would have engaged with screams if screams hadn't of been pushing at him aswell.[/QUOTE]

He could've also not engaged with Screams and tried to deflect to another player's train. I'm not exactly sure, but I think I had Harold voted early enough for that to be a possibility. At that time it looked like he's pushing more than averting anyway and that seemed towny. I think anyway, my memory isn't flawless either.

Originally Posted by S-FM yoek

Then I believe screams was agreeing with me in the thread, so masterpiece assumed that we must be a "team" of some sort because we were both pushing at him.

So I don't think he would have engaged with screams if screams hadn't of been pushing at him aswell.

He could've also not engaged with Screams and tried to deflect to another player's train. I'm not exactly sure, but I think I had Harold voted early enough for that to be a possibility. At that time it looked like he's pushing more than averting anyway and that seemed towny. I think anyway, my memory isn't flawless either.

[QUOTE=S-FM Masterpiece;826454]i was scum hunting then got called scum for doing it. i pushed on screams. he push back sufficiently in my mind to not lynch him to day.. i still think his role could be a blend of scum invest / godfather.[/QUOTE]

So, you see MS early on pushed screams and got into an argument with yoek. It looked to me like he did that of his own accord. I townread him for that, regardless of his reasoning or whatever else he was writing in his defense.
Then he dropped the push. Afterwards he's been just coasting along all this time, with no vote out and seeming feel of relief over the fact he got out of the spotlight. For that I dropped the townread.

Originally Posted by S-FM Masterpiece

i was scum hunting then got called scum for doing it. i pushed on screams. he push back sufficiently in my mind to not lynch him to day.. i still think his role could be a blend of scum invest / godfather.

So, you see MS early on pushed screams and got into an argument with yoek. It looked to me like he did that of his own accord. I townread him for that, regardless of his reasoning or whatever else he was writing in his defense.
Then he dropped the push. Afterwards he's been just coasting along all this time, with no vote out and seeming feel of relief over the fact he got out of the spotlight. For that I dropped the townread.

[QUOTE=S-FM yoek;826441]I was strictly talking about individual player meta, like "Stealths" meta etc etc.[/QUOTE]

I don't think stealth has one meta. He can lurk one game, be town leader the other. In both those situations though he can be scum, and I look for things players in that situation with that mindset have done as that alignment before.

Originally Posted by S-FM yoek

I was strictly talking about individual player meta, like "Stealths" meta etc etc.

I don't think stealth has one meta. He can lurk one game, be town leader the other. In both those situations though he can be scum, and I look for things players in that situation with that mindset have done as that alignment before.