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[QUOTE=S-FM Marck Wilbird;876077][COLOR="#00FFFF"][B]I support lynching Mulan first, then Quinne[/B][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

You aren't listening to me. Rotholfo was mayor, I checked him last night.

Originally Posted by S-FM Marck Wilbird

I support lynching Mulan first, then Quinne

You aren't listening to me. Rotholfo was mayor, I checked him last night.

:( I don't know why it didn't go through.

Rotholfo is mayor. You must listen to me.

I don't know why it didn't go through.

Rotholfo is mayor. You must listen to me.

[QUOTE=S-FM Marck Wilbird;876060][COLOR="#00FFFF"][B]FUCKING TIME WASTER

JUST LEAVE[/B][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

I don't know what happened. But I checked Rotholfo. Mulan is not the architect we think she is. I don't know what else to say.

Originally Posted by S-FM Marck Wilbird

FUCKING TIME WASTER

JUST LEAVE

I don't know what happened. But I checked Rotholfo. Mulan is not the architect we think she is. I don't know what else to say.

I checked Rotholfo. He was [COLOR="#00FF00"][FONT=Arial Black][SIZE=6]MAYOR.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]

WHERE IS THE REVEAL?

This means Mulan is scummitect absolutely.

[vote]S-FM Marlwyn Janson[/vote]

I checked Rotholfo. He was MAYOR.

WHERE IS THE REVEAL?

This means Mulan is scummitect absolutely.

-vote S-FM Marlwyn Janson

[QUOTE=S-FM Bart Pilfter;875853]No excuse. Personally, I think people should be mod killed for that behavior. [B]You've been given a "last warning" once before and yet you do it again.[/B][/QUOTE]

What is this?

Originally Posted by S-FM Bart Pilfter

No excuse. Personally, I think people should be mod killed for that behavior. You've been given a "last warning" once before and yet you do it again.

What is this?

I shall prove myself tomorrow with my reveal, if you agree it is the best use of my second charge.

[vote]skip[/vote]

I shall prove myself tomorrow with my reveal, if you agree it is the best use of my second charge.

-vote skip

[QUOTE=S-FM Billigan Holbird;875811]That only applies if Jan is town, which you don't believe.


Disguiser has only one shot.[/QUOTE]

This means that Vlad was not in fact the disguiser, and was some sort of neutral role likely and was infact killed via kidnapper.

Originally Posted by S-FM Billigan Holbird

That only applies if Jan is town, which you don't believe.


Disguiser has only one shot.

This means that Vlad was not in fact the disguiser, and was some sort of neutral role likely and was infact killed via kidnapper.

[QUOTE=S-FM Billigan Holbird;875810]That seems to be the solution? Also, I think Fred should not shoot before we know for sure about Jan. There's nothing to lose from skipping anyway (yes, I actually understood that now).[/QUOTE]

Fred is out of shots, because he was disguised, check the OoO. Original Fred shoots before Lois could disguise.

Originally Posted by S-FM Billigan Holbird

That seems to be the solution? Also, I think Fred should not shoot before we know for sure about Jan. There's nothing to lose from skipping anyway (yes, I actually understood that now).

Fred is out of shots, because he was disguised, check the OoO. Original Fred shoots before Lois could disguise.

[QUOTE=S-FM Fred Attlebish;875805]If this is true then Jan will open reviel tomorrow and if you are ROle blocked your abilty does not get used[/QUOTE]

Why are you pushing so hard for my lynch today? Were you guised by Lois last night?

That would be an interesting play. Perhaps Vlad was a neut, and Lois was the guiser, and Vlad actually was executed, and now Lois is Fred attempting to lead our crew astray.

Originally Posted by S-FM Fred Attlebish

If this is true then Jan will open reviel tomorrow and if you are ROle blocked your abilty does not get used

Why are you pushing so hard for my lynch today? Were you guised by Lois last night?

That would be an interesting play. Perhaps Vlad was a neut, and Lois was the guiser, and Vlad actually was executed, and now Lois is Fred attempting to lead our crew astray.

Fred may be confirmed Magellan crew at this point but he is not making a lick of sense around these parts not one bit.

Fred may be confirmed Magellan crew at this point but he is not making a lick of sense around these parts not one bit.

[QUOTE=S-FM Fred Attlebish;875800]JAn is lieing LOOK at setup only 3 mafia
1 mafia Confirmed GF no night action
2nd mafia Role blocker (roleblocker has only 1 use) used it on me n2
3rd mafia we all know was Vlad

With a role blocker NO other support mafia roles are posible. This game is solved

Jan is Mafia
Quinne is mafia
I would lynch lan over quinne for just becuse he is lieing[/QUOTE]

Again, patently false. So you are saying Lois, Jan, and Quinne are mafia. How does that make sense?

Originally Posted by S-FM Fred Attlebish

JAn is lieing LOOK at setup only 3 mafia
1 mafia Confirmed GF no night action
2nd mafia Role blocker (roleblocker has only 1 use) used it on me n2
3rd mafia we all know was Vlad

With a role blocker NO other support mafia roles are posible. This game is solved

Jan is Mafia
Quinne is mafia
I would lynch lan over quinne for just becuse he is lieing

Again, patently false. So you are saying Lois, Jan, and Quinne are mafia. How does that make sense?

[QUOTE=S-FM Fred Attlebish;875791]LIER MAFIA MAFIA JAn is MAfia[/QUOTE]

Patently false. I was indeed roleblocked. Apparently it has been suggested I still have a single charge, and thus I am fine with skipping in order to once again prove myself.

Who is the other scum?

Originally Posted by S-FM Fred Attlebish

LIER MAFIA MAFIA JAn is MAfia

Patently false. I was indeed roleblocked. Apparently it has been suggested I still have a single charge, and thus I am fine with skipping in order to once again prove myself.

Who is the other scum?

If Lois was scum, we should be looking for the other scum. Why would two scum claim sheriff? And where is the remaining town role then?

If Lois was scum, we should be looking for the other scum. Why would two scum claim sheriff? And where is the remaining town role then?

But benadryl + whiskey + sleep again for me, too much reading and studying today. Talk to you folk in the morn.

But benadryl + whiskey + sleep again for me, too much reading and studying today. Talk to you folk in the morn.

[QUOTE=S-FM Bart Pilfter;875783]Ok first things first.
Fred is the undisputed Town Killing role.
Fred says he was role-blocked. We must believe this.
Jan said she is role-blocked - her explanation 2 consorts.
Do we believe there are 2 consorts?
Also where is Jan's day reveal.[/QUOTE]

I was roleblocked from both revealing and even checking Vlad's body.

I can check Vlad again tonight to get a better idea of who he guised of course, and I still need clarification from Host if my public reveal charge was used up since it was roleblocked.

Originally Posted by S-FM Bart Pilfter

Ok first things first.
Fred is the undisputed Town Killing role.
Fred says he was role-blocked. We must believe this.
Jan said she is role-blocked - her explanation 2 consorts.
Do we believe there are 2 consorts?
Also where is Jan's day reveal.

I was roleblocked from both revealing and even checking Vlad's body.

I can check Vlad again tonight to get a better idea of who he guised of course, and I still need clarification from Host if my public reveal charge was used up since it was roleblocked.

[QUOTE=S-FM Billigan Holbird;875780]That would imply two consorts are in the game, which would mean there is no scumchitect. That fits Fred's theory. Unless one of you lies, Marlwyn is confirmed town, and it'd be really weird if any of you were lying.[/QUOTE]

Ah I see, so Mulan is confirmed then.

Originally Posted by S-FM Billigan Holbird

That would imply two consorts are in the game, which would mean there is no scumchitect. That fits Fred's theory. Unless one of you lies, Marlwyn is confirmed town, and it'd be really weird if any of you were lying.

Ah I see, so Mulan is confirmed then.

[QUOTE=S-FM Bart Pilfter;875777]There are so many players lying right now that I am wondering if I am the last Townie standing.

WTF NONE OF THIS MAKES ANY SENSE[/QUOTE]

I agree nothing makes sense.

Originally Posted by S-FM Bart Pilfter

There are so many players lying right now that I am wondering if I am the last Townie standing.

WTF NONE OF THIS MAKES ANY SENSE

I agree nothing makes sense.

Mullany may not be disguised, but may still be scum. Fred is not making sense.

Mullany may not be disguised, but may still be scum. Fred is not making sense.

[QUOTE=S-FM Marck Wilbird;875769][COLOR="#00FFFF"][B]Please explain how. I dont follow. If Quinne is mafia then you shot our sheriff[/B][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

Exactly this makes no sense to me. Why would scum claim both sheriffs, and then why would Fred shoot one and still want to lynch the other if he truly believes Lois was mafia?

Originally Posted by S-FM Marck Wilbird

Please explain how. I dont follow. If Quinne is mafia then you shot our sheriff

Exactly this makes no sense to me. Why would scum claim both sheriffs, and then why would Fred shoot one and still want to lynch the other if he truly believes Lois was mafia?

I have just received feedback that I was roleblocked last night. If Fred was roleblocked as he has claimed, then I can only imagine there are two consorts, since each has a single charge?

I need clarification on whether or not the role block causes me to lose my own second charge of public revealing.

Does it make sense at all that both Lois AND Quinne would claim sheriff? If you shot Lois and think he is lying, why do we lynch Quinne?

And finally, what do we make of Lois finding Malwyn as scum? That would mean 2 consorts and a framer, assuming Malywn was framed. Is that even possible?

Why have we not fully entertained that Malwyn is indeed scum, and used the n1 chat with Vlad as a cover?

I must go to bed now however. I will be on tomorrow.

I have just received feedback that I was roleblocked last night. If Fred was roleblocked as he has claimed, then I can only imagine there are two consorts, since each has a single charge?

I need clarification on whether or not the role block causes me to lose my own second charge of public revealing.

Does it make sense at all that both Lois AND Quinne would claim sheriff? If you shot Lois and think he is lying, why do we lynch Quinne?

And finally, what do we make of Lois finding Malwyn as scum? That would mean 2 consorts and a framer, assuming Malywn was framed. Is that even possible?

Why have we not fully entertained that Malwyn is indeed scum, and used the n1 chat with Vlad as a cover?

I must go to bed now however. I will be on tomorrow.

[QUOTE=S-FM Bart Pilfter;875509]We only need your night ability to track Vlad right?[/QUOTE]

Yes, I can check Vlad without revealing him publicly and tell you what I get tomorrow, like yesterday with Jiles.

Originally Posted by S-FM Bart Pilfter

We only need your night ability to track Vlad right?

Yes, I can check Vlad without revealing him publicly and tell you what I get tomorrow, like yesterday with Jiles.

I'm going to check Vlad, but are you sure I should use my last charge of revealing? Since I am mechanically confirmed.

I'm going to check Vlad, but are you sure I should use my last charge of revealing? Since I am mechanically confirmed.

[QUOTE=S-FM Fred Attlebish;875480]If you are the real Jan no offense you got to get a thicker hide to play mafia. Remember what is said in a game is never personal non of us are PTB lol. People who do out of game personal attacks are dicks. I am telling you this because I think you are a good player if you can take a few attacks ok. Remember mafia want to make you look bad if you are town. If everyone is always nice in game game would be boring ok. Plus people like me like to do reaction tests. Remember this is just a game.[/QUOTE]

Maybe you should just shoot me then if you want to insult my intelligence some more.

Originally Posted by S-FM Fred Attlebish

If you are the real Jan no offense you got to get a thicker hide to play mafia. Remember what is said in a game is never personal non of us are PTB lol. People who do out of game personal attacks are dicks. I am telling you this because I think you are a good player if you can take a few attacks ok. Remember mafia want to make you look bad if you are town. If everyone is always nice in game game would be boring ok. Plus people like me like to do reaction tests. Remember this is just a game.

Maybe you should just shoot me then if you want to insult my intelligence some more.

[vote]skip[/vote]

-vote skip

This is my second game and likely my last so I am not looking to get into more trouble than what I have already caused.

This is my second game and likely my last so I am not looking to get into more trouble than what I have already caused.

[QUOTE=S-FM Marlwyn Janson;875460]Why would we shoot Jan here? lol[/QUOTE]

Because Fred is not satisfied with my response to questions I was told to stop discussing...

Originally Posted by S-FM Marlwyn Janson

Why would we shoot Jan here? lol

Because Fred is not satisfied with my response to questions I was told to stop discussing...

[QUOTE=S-FM Fred Attlebish;875452]Vote me or I am shooting jan tonight[/QUOTE]

Shoot me, I won't be able to reveal though, unfortunately.

Originally Posted by S-FM Fred Attlebish

Vote me or I am shooting jan tonight

Shoot me, I won't be able to reveal though, unfortunately.

[QUOTE=S-FM Fred Attlebish;875451]I am asking fast becuse only the real person would be able to asnwer that fast.[/QUOTE]

I am not touching that discussion any longer. I was told to read the thread of angleshooting behavior. Being my second game, and already having many upset with me for my sour behavior, I opt to abstain. Hopefully you can understand.

Originally Posted by S-FM Fred Attlebish

I am asking fast becuse only the real person would be able to asnwer that fast.

I am not touching that discussion any longer. I was told to read the thread of angleshooting behavior. Being my second game, and already having many upset with me for my sour behavior, I opt to abstain. Hopefully you can understand.

[QUOTE=S-FM Fred Attlebish;875445]what was the type of code you used that I cracked?
What was your Key to it?
What did your use to double code it?
how many places did your key need?[/QUOTE]

I was informed any discussion of cryptographic tools to protect against a disguiser were not allowed.

Originally Posted by S-FM Fred Attlebish

what was the type of code you used that I cracked?
What was your Key to it?
What did your use to double code it?
how many places did your key need?

I was informed any discussion of cryptographic tools to protect against a disguiser were not allowed.

[QUOTE=S-FM Fred Attlebish;875440]Jan why woundt you answer my question?[/QUOTE]

I'm exhausted from all of this. What were they?

I felt guilty for attempting to leave as the most powerful role in this setup and so I came back. I will prove myself on the eve,.

Originally Posted by S-FM Fred Attlebish

Jan why woundt you answer my question?

I'm exhausted from all of this. What were they?

I felt guilty for attempting to leave as the most powerful role in this setup and so I came back. I will prove myself on the eve,.

So am I supposed to check Vlad tonight? And if so, do I exercise the last charge of my ability to reveal him publicly?

That would tell us who was guised at the least. And then we can lynch them.

Should we skip?

So am I supposed to check Vlad tonight? And if so, do I exercise the last charge of my ability to reveal him publicly?

That would tell us who was guised at the least. And then we can lynch them.

Should we skip?

This pestering and insulting is partly why I left before, and not fun by any stretch. I decided to return in the best interest of town. I will prove myself tonight and nothing more. If Vlad has disguised as me, you will know tomorrow (despite the setup which several of you told me to read 10 more times) clearly proving I was not Vlad's target.

Bye for now.

This pestering and insulting is partly why I left before, and not fun by any stretch. I decided to return in the best interest of town. I will prove myself tonight and nothing more. If Vlad has disguised as me, you will know tomorrow (despite the setup which several of you told me to read 10 more times) clearly proving I was not Vlad's target.

Bye for now.

[QUOTE=S-FM Fred Attlebish;875253]in no world is that a realty lets not even go there. Anyone going there is Scum.[/QUOTE]

Yes.

Originally Posted by S-FM Fred Attlebish

in no world is that a realty lets not even go there. Anyone going there is Scum.

Yes.

[QUOTE=S-FM Bart Pilfter;875248]Wtf. Is Jan actually disguised.
Wtf host.[/QUOTE]

Allow myself to confirm myself. This unit is indeed the Jan that started the game. And if I don't confirm? Lynch me tomorrow.

Originally Posted by S-FM Bart Pilfter

Wtf. Is Jan actually disguised.
Wtf host.

Allow myself to confirm myself. This unit is indeed the Jan that started the game. And if I don't confirm? Lynch me tomorrow.

[QUOTE=S-FM Bart Pilfter;875242][B][COLOR="#FF0000"][SIZE=7]YOU SAID YOU TOOK BENADRYL NOT ALCOHOL[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B][/QUOTE]

I take many sleep aids. Have you ever tried melatonin? They sold these amazing candies at the check-out line of Whole Foods. Large m&M type things, you see, that contained melatonin. Well it is a mistake to put melatonin in candy because you just want to keep eating them.

Originally Posted by S-FM Bart Pilfter

YOU SAID YOU TOOK BENADRYL NOT ALCOHOL

I take many sleep aids. Have you ever tried melatonin? They sold these amazing candies at the check-out line of Whole Foods. Large m&M type things, you see, that contained melatonin. Well it is a mistake to put melatonin in candy because you just want to keep eating them.

[QUOTE=S-FM Quinne;875222][MENTION=45447]S-FM Jan Korvin[/MENTION]

This game can get extremely stressful. It gets to you.
You show good signs though. Not many people are willing to look back, and try to improve their mistakes.
Hit me up after the game for a cold one.[/QUOTE]

Alcohol is the best elixir they say.

Originally Posted by S-FM Quinne

@S-FM Jan Korvin

This game can get extremely stressful. It gets to you.
You show good signs though. Not many people are willing to look back, and try to improve their mistakes.
Hit me up after the game for a cold one.

Alcohol is the best elixir they say.

[QUOTE=S-FM Bart Pilfter;875214]Hey Jan what did you take the other night to make you go to sleep?[/QUOTE]

Alcohol is the best elixir they say.

Originally Posted by S-FM Bart Pilfter

Hey Jan what did you take the other night to make you go to sleep?

Alcohol is the best elixir they say.

[QUOTE=S-FM Marck Wilbird;875196][COLOR="#00FFFF"][B]It's better to do that than to give us a way to confirm flips in a no-killing setup. If they disguise as Jan, they are lynched after they can't confirm coroner, but we are forced to lynch all 3 TPR claims to be sure

Mafia banked on Jan actually quitting and being modkilled. Kinda feel bad for them, Jan coming back fucks them bad[/B][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

Indeed it does my bird friend. That is partly why I returned. I felt bad for leaving, especially in such a sour way.

Originally Posted by S-FM Marck Wilbird

It's better to do that than to give us a way to confirm flips in a no-killing setup. If they disguise as Jan, they are lynched after they can't confirm coroner, but we are forced to lynch all 3 TPR claims to be sure

Mafia banked on Jan actually quitting and being modkilled. Kinda feel bad for them, Jan coming back fucks them bad

Indeed it does my bird friend. That is partly why I returned. I felt bad for leaving, especially in such a sour way.

[QUOTE=S-FM Bart Pilfter;875183]No offence to host, but I am not discounting the fact that there was a screw-up with the Coroner day results.
I mean I have been on team Jan all along, but I am going to continue to analyse your chat Jan, because I'm not convinced yet.[/QUOTE]

That is fine. While I convinced myself not to quit, clearly there is still an enthusiasm gap from previous days I must overcome.

Originally Posted by S-FM Bart Pilfter

No offence to host, but I am not discounting the fact that there was a screw-up with the Coroner day results.
I mean I have been on team Jan all along, but I am going to continue to analyse your chat Jan, because I'm not convinced yet.

That is fine. While I convinced myself not to quit, clearly there is still an enthusiasm gap from previous days I must overcome.

[QUOTE=S-FM Joha Schtilzt;875149]This unit is confirmed to be a coroner_. Coroner actions happen before a disguise_[/QUOTE]

Yes. I have been confirmed by the reveal of Jiles. This unit is indeed coroner, as I've been telling you. And I tried hard to get you to lynch Vlad yesterday, but nobody listened, and so he has apparently disguised as another 'unit'.

Originally Posted by S-FM Joha Schtilzt

This unit is confirmed to be a coroner_. Coroner actions happen before a disguise_

Yes. I have been confirmed by the reveal of Jiles. This unit is indeed coroner, as I've been telling you. And I tried hard to get you to lynch Vlad yesterday, but nobody listened, and so he has apparently disguised as another 'unit'.

[QUOTE=S-FM Marlwyn Janson;874995]To be fair, I was also wrong about Jan. Vlad played me a bit but I should have realized how aloof he was in our chat.[/QUOTE]

Yes, you were wrong about me, but after some thought and introspection I can understand how my pontificating could be misconstrued that way...

Originally Posted by S-FM Marlwyn Janson

To be fair, I was also wrong about Jan. Vlad played me a bit but I should have realized how aloof he was in our chat.

Yes, you were wrong about me, but after some thought and introspection I can understand how my pontificating could be misconstrued that way...

[QUOTE=S-FM Fred Attlebish;874994]@ Jan DO NOT USE YOUR PUBLIC REVIEL YET. SAve it. I want to see what happens tonight first. BUt check our d2 lynch.[/QUOTE]

But I need to confirm myself, correct? Or do you want to wait for that until later in the game?

Originally Posted by S-FM Fred Attlebish

@ Jan DO NOT USE YOUR PUBLIC REVIEL YET. SAve it. I want to see what happens tonight first. BUt check our d2 lynch.

But I need to confirm myself, correct? Or do you want to wait for that until later in the game?

[QUOTE=S-FM Marck Wilbird;874904][COLOR="#00FFFF"][B]If you are really Jan, no worries, you won't be lynched today. We are likely skipping. You'll be given the opportunity to prove yourself.[/B][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

Very well. That is all I can ask for at this point. And I see you change the angle of your avatar. What else is new?

Originally Posted by S-FM Marck Wilbird

If you are really Jan, no worries, you won't be lynched today. We are likely skipping. You'll be given the opportunity to prove yourself.

Very well. That is all I can ask for at this point. And I see you change the angle of your avatar. What else is new?

And my read of Vlad's so called LW is that the scum are trying very hard to lynch me today. But I will confirm myself steadfastly at the first opportunity.

And my read of Vlad's so called LW is that the scum are trying very hard to lynch me today. But I will confirm myself steadfastly at the first opportunity.

Well, I must offer a full explanation of myself. In my anger and poor temperament I had attempted to leave the game. I was so frustrated with the personal attacks and insults on my intelligence. Mind you, I very explicitly mentioned that I was not as experienced at this form of play (second game and the like), and it was especially grating to be told time and time again that I was ill-informed at best, and at worst, ill-minded. This of course, struck a raw nerve, however I acted in a way that is not acceptable.

But I am now here, back, and you can see the confirmation of the Jiles alignment that was publicly revealed.

I see that Vlad is gone, and so I offer you that I will confirm myself once again this eve by revealing Rotholfo or today's lynch target, assuming I am not lynched.

I need to catch up from the time I left yesterday.

Apologies, again.

Well, I must offer a full explanation of myself. In my anger and poor temperament I had attempted to leave the game. I was so frustrated with the personal attacks and insults on my intelligence. Mind you, I very explicitly mentioned that I was not as experienced at this form of play (second game and the like), and it was especially grating to be told time and time again that I was ill-informed at best, and at worst, ill-minded. This of course, struck a raw nerve, however I acted in a way that is not acceptable.

But I am now here, back, and you can see the confirmation of the Jiles alignment that was publicly revealed.

I see that Vlad is gone, and so I offer you that I will confirm myself once again this eve by revealing Rotholfo or today's lynch target, assuming I am not lynched.

I need to catch up from the time I left yesterday.

Apologies, again.

Okay, this is my final post in this FM. I don't care if I do live. This isn't fun. It's too involved, too long, dragged out, bullying each other, I don't get it, fuck you stupid for not getting it like I do.....I'm done.

I'm not playing anymore. I was coroner. This is the opposite of fun and games.

Okay, this is my final post in this FM. I don't care if I do live. This isn't fun. It's too involved, too long, dragged out, bullying each other, I don't get it, fuck you stupid for not getting it like I do.....I'm done.

I'm not playing anymore. I was coroner. This is the opposite of fun and games.

[QUOTE=S-FM Marck Wilbird;874488][COLOR="#AFEEEE"][I]
The answer is yes, everyone has claimed. I made a list. Go back and find it, read the damn game instead of playing off of old information.[/I][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

Why are you so angry? You are spinning out. I believe Fred and Bart are vets at this, and i've gone all in under that assumption. Ridiculing me about being new, and not living up to the standards you expect from me does nothing but show you are the "poor sport" of our conversation.

Originally Posted by S-FM Marck Wilbird

The answer is yes, everyone has claimed. I made a list. Go back and find it, read the damn game instead of playing off of old information.

Why are you so angry? You are spinning out. I believe Fred and Bart are vets at this, and i've gone all in under that assumption. Ridiculing me about being new, and not living up to the standards you expect from me does nothing but show you are the "poor sport" of our conversation.

[QUOTE=S-FM Vladislow Kennt;874483]And this is why I DIDN'T WANT TO REVEAL, but CCing seemed to be a win for town so I ultimately did that.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Vlad, you have a good point. Nobody forced Vlad to reveal, if he was indeed coroner, he could have kept silent. He choose to claim coroner, just as I did, but only I receive attention for revealing. Was it a smart move? I don't know, and I won't know until things play out. One thing is for sure, our dirty laundry is getting cleaned tonight.

Originally Posted by S-FM Vladislow Kennt

And this is why I DIDN'T WANT TO REVEAL, but CCing seemed to be a win for town so I ultimately did that.

Thanks Vlad, you have a good point. Nobody forced Vlad to reveal, if he was indeed coroner, he could have kept silent. He choose to claim coroner, just as I did, but only I receive attention for revealing. Was it a smart move? I don't know, and I won't know until things play out. One thing is for sure, our dirty laundry is getting cleaned tonight.

[QUOTE=S-FM Gollert Twissell;874476]There are multiple things. Let's say you were the real coroner. There are multiple reasons why you wouldn't reveal. How about knowing there is a turncoat with a dayshot? [One I missed] How about thinking about a turncoat that would counterclaim you because he doesn't have to survive to the end? How about thinking about the possibility of an angel in the game?- they counterclaim to protect you. How about knowing there is a disguiser in the game and that there are no town protectives? How about knowing what a jailor can do?

All of these made it very dangerous for you to reveal.[/QUOTE]

I admit, renaming the mafia roles confused me initially, but my comment was more directed at you saying go re-read the setup. I mean. Why? If we were debating each other and it came to you and you just held up a history book and said "Read This." That is how I felt by your comment. Why, lol. Just say what you want to say.

Originally Posted by S-FM Gollert Twissell

There are multiple things. Let's say you were the real coroner. There are multiple reasons why you wouldn't reveal. How about knowing there is a turncoat with a dayshot? [One I missed] How about thinking about a turncoat that would counterclaim you because he doesn't have to survive to the end? How about thinking about the possibility of an angel in the game?- they counterclaim to protect you. How about knowing there is a disguiser in the game and that there are no town protectives? How about knowing what a jailor can do?

All of these made it very dangerous for you to reveal.

I admit, renaming the mafia roles confused me initially, but my comment was more directed at you saying go re-read the setup. I mean. Why? If we were debating each other and it came to you and you just held up a history book and said "Read This." That is how I felt by your comment. Why, lol. Just say what you want to say.

[QUOTE=S-FM Marck Wilbird;874475]FailFish

[COLOR="#00FFFF"][B]I do not understand the inability to follow such simple logic such as "1 killing role exists, only 1 person claimed killing, everyone has claimed, therefore that person is confirmed". I just. Can't.[/B][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

Has everyone claimed roles? How many people do we have? Has everyone spoken and claimed? What if the town killing doesn't want to reveal? What if Fred is faking vig as a play? I mean, nothing is confirmed until you see it.

Originally Posted by S-FM Marck Wilbird

I do not understand the inability to follow such simple logic such as "1 killing role exists, only 1 person claimed killing, everyone has claimed, therefore that person is confirmed". I just. Can't.

Has everyone claimed roles? How many people do we have? Has everyone spoken and claimed? What if the town killing doesn't want to reveal? What if Fred is faking vig as a play? I mean, nothing is confirmed until you see it.