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[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/45766-S-FM-The-News"]This setup[/URL] is the WIP child of the present thread, btw.

This setup is the WIP child of the present thread, btw.

[QUOTE=OzyWho;835458][COLOR="#00FFFF"]I think you're now speaking in [I]technical[/I], not in [I]practical[/I].
The only time that MP would announce "Mafia is Mafia" for wifom - it's when they would fully expect to get lynched themselves. Not only is it extremely unlikely that a Mafia would go for that gamble, but also in scenarios when the MP would get 100% lynched the next day - [U]nobody would care[/U] what wifom announcement the MP makes. And thats the BEST scenario?[/COLOR]


[COLOR="#00FF00"]Very useful indeed... very useful. Maybe overpowered useful? :thinking:

The challange was [I]"make a setup where the role is good"[/I] - you responded with [I]"there can be setups where the role is good"[/I]... I mean.. :spinda:
:laugh:[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

I mean, I'm not going to make a setup with the role(s) in RIGHT NOW in this thread lol, maybe later. It'd be an experiemental setup, as I said.

Also, announcing Mafia is Mafia would be a good WIFOM play because of your exact assumption :)

It's indeed really strong, but in a setup with, for example, a strongman kill or a double mafia kill by some way (additional gunner or similar), it would not be THAT strong. Only one shot of confirming people as town.

The one thing I dislike is that it outs mafia publicly with little chance to come back from it (you have to claim that there's a mafia publisher on you). I could see a "godfather-y" role that has detection-immunity, and that would be seen as Town by the publisher cop.

Originally Posted by OzyWho

I think you're now speaking in technical, not in practical.
The only time that MP would announce "Mafia is Mafia" for wifom - it's when they would fully expect to get lynched themselves. Not only is it extremely unlikely that a Mafia would go for that gamble, but also in scenarios when the MP would get 100% lynched the next day - nobody would care what wifom announcement the MP makes. And thats the BEST scenario?


Very useful indeed... very useful. Maybe overpowered useful?

The challange was "make a setup where the role is good" - you responded with "there can be setups where the role is good"... I mean..

I mean, I'm not going to make a setup with the role(s) in RIGHT NOW in this thread lol, maybe later. It'd be an experiemental setup, as I said.

Also, announcing Mafia is Mafia would be a good WIFOM play because of your exact assumption

It's indeed really strong, but in a setup with, for example, a strongman kill or a double mafia kill by some way (additional gunner or similar), it would not be THAT strong. Only one shot of confirming people as town.

The one thing I dislike is that it outs mafia publicly with little chance to come back from it (you have to claim that there's a mafia publisher on you). I could see a "godfather-y" role that has detection-immunity, and that would be seen as Town by the publisher cop.

The [COLOR="#FF0000"]MP [/COLOR]seems to be able to publish that anyone is anything, so point 3 is not true.

Point 1 is debatable. In a hidden setup, the town role alone could be very useful.


The roles are simply variants of a normal alignment cop, with more power. It fits with less setups (only experimental ones, honestly), but I don't think it never has its place.

The MP seems to be able to publish that anyone is anything, so point 3 is not true.

Point 1 is debatable. In a hidden setup, the town role alone could be very useful.


The roles are simply variants of a normal alignment cop, with more power. It fits with less setups (only experimental ones, honestly), but I don't think it never has its place.