November 30th, 2020, 04:28 AM
[QUOTE=Bruno;906785]so if mm had been on an anonymous account
and mesk didnt know mm was, say, alt named X
mesk fucks up night action for X, resulting in X dying
how in the fuck could it ever possibly be assumed mesk intentionally fucked over X because mesk happened to know X was mm? lmfao
your analogies suck ass stop comparing yourself to police.[/QUOTE]
I'm not comparing myself, I'm comparing the situation actually. The different analogies I addressed depicted quite well the situation.
Okay I understand your in depth thought, yet your example also work for a non-staff player.
Just replace the name "MM" by "Bruno" and "Mesk" by "Host". And you would see it could also happen.
Therefore the only solve to your problem would be to only play full anonymous game, not only staff.
I'm not following this.
Originally Posted by
Bruno
so if mm had been on an anonymous account
and mesk didnt know mm was, say, alt named X
mesk fucks up night action for X, resulting in X dying
how in the fuck could it ever possibly be assumed mesk intentionally fucked over X because mesk happened to know X was mm? lmfao
your analogies suck ass stop comparing yourself to police.
I'm not comparing myself, I'm comparing the situation actually. The different analogies I addressed depicted quite well the situation.
Okay I understand your in depth thought, yet your example also work for a non-staff player.
Just replace the name "MM" by "Bruno" and "Mesk" by "Host". And you would see it could also happen.
Therefore the only solve to your problem would be to only play full anonymous game, not only staff.
I'm not following this.
November 29th, 2020, 04:20 PM
[QUOTE=Kenny;906775]That's because you're french. Americans evidently start to panic when they see the police behind them.[/QUOTE]
Good point.
[QUOTE=Bruno;906777]"ive never played an anon game, so here's my totally invalid and unrelated opinion"
evidence a: if mm had been on a smurf account, then whatever perceived 'beef' existed between mm and mesk wouldn't have had any weight in the ruling that mesk "maliciously" forgot to vest mm. seems obvious enough[/QUOTE]
Even though I haven't played any anonymous game, I don't see how my opinion is invalid.
The statements previously said, still stand as how I am seeing this thread.
I don't want to escalate that much this subject related to the MM/Mesk interaction.
Keep in mind, I'm not positioning myself into this.
MM being on an anonymous account would have done the same thing imo.
It's not because you are on an alt that you suddenly forget everything about everyone.
I mean, imagine someone running a red light.
Whether you have a undercover or non-undercover police man behind you, the outcome would be the same.
And grudges, "beef" or whatever you would say would therefore not be part of the judgement.
Originally Posted by
Kenny
That's because you're french. Americans evidently start to panic when they see the police behind them.
Good point.
Originally Posted by
Bruno
"ive never played an anon game, so here's my totally invalid and unrelated opinion"
evidence a: if mm had been on a smurf account, then whatever perceived 'beef' existed between mm and mesk wouldn't have had any weight in the ruling that mesk "maliciously" forgot to vest mm. seems obvious enough
Even though I haven't played any anonymous game, I don't see how my opinion is invalid.
The statements previously said, still stand as how I am seeing this thread.
I don't want to escalate that much this subject related to the MM/Mesk interaction.
Keep in mind, I'm not positioning myself into this.
MM being on an anonymous account would have done the same thing imo.
It's not because you are on an alt that you suddenly forget everything about everyone.
I mean, imagine someone running a red light.
Whether you have a undercover or non-undercover police man behind you, the outcome would be the same.
And grudges, "beef" or whatever you would say would therefore not be part of the judgement.
November 29th, 2020, 03:00 PM
To be fair, I do not even guess what the main problem is.
Like, staff are humans, and so are every other players.
What's the deal of being scared of anything ?
Even if I had my nick in the basic color with a basic non-staff role, my playstyle towards staff would have been alike towards regular players.
Whenever an admin, or staff in general decides to sign in a FM, they put themselves in the same position as all the other players.
So they should be treated the same way.
Having staff member on a game doesn't mean the game is biaised.
It's like having a police car behind you when you are driving.
As long as you don't break the rules, you can consider them as your equivalent. The difference, however, shows up at the moment you do break the rules.
So now, try to replace regulars cars (admin) by unmarked car (anonymous admin).
You will realize, it won't change anything.
The only point I could see, is when an admin is in a game, players tend to be more cautious not to break the rules (even though some really dgaf*).
Which is practically a good thing, in my opinion.
I would like to hear the in-depth reason of posting this thread to understand the reasoning behind it.
Regarding anon games,
I have never played anonymous game, and my given isn't really positive. I believe the game loses it's charm in some extent.
To be fair, I do not even guess what the main problem is.
Like, staff are humans, and so are every other players.
What's the deal of being scared of anything ?
Even if I had my nick in the basic color with a basic non-staff role, my playstyle towards staff would have been alike towards regular players.
Whenever an admin, or staff in general decides to sign in a FM, they put themselves in the same position as all the other players.
So they should be treated the same way.
Having staff member on a game doesn't mean the game is biaised.
It's like having a police car behind you when you are driving.
As long as you don't break the rules, you can consider them as your equivalent. The difference, however, shows up at the moment you do break the rules.
So now, try to replace regulars cars (admin) by unmarked car (anonymous admin).
You will realize, it won't change anything.
The only point I could see, is when an admin is in a game, players tend to be more cautious not to break the rules (even though some really dgaf*).
Which is practically a good thing, in my opinion.
I would like to hear the in-depth reason of posting this thread to understand the reasoning behind it.
Regarding anon games,
I have never played anonymous game, and my given isn't really positive. I believe the game loses it's charm in some extent.