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    ►►Re: S-FM Magellan (15p)◄◄

    The day has ended. Marlwyn Janson was lynched. The night will last until everyone has sent in night actions, or at most 12 hours.
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    [WIP] ►►Re: The Eternal Conflict (13P)◄◄

    Interesting setup youíve got here.
    A few questions:

    Is the Guardian Angel informed of successful heal? What about their target?
    What would happen if a player died, stopped paying attention to the game, and a human priest tried to talk to them? Would you replace a Ďdeadí player if they were inactive? How would enforce activity for dead players?
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    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Lembird Oshay View Post
    also why the hell are we trying to lynch the glorified survivor?
    i want you guys to listen, is lynching a neutral benign who's only remaining objective is "to survive" really the optimal play?
    is bounty hunter target guaranteed town?
    No
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    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Gollert Twissell View Post
    So I see people haven't considered that there is still the possibility that Joha is either mafia, neutral evil, or is neutral benign turned into an evil role.
    @Magellan Core Can the clone take turncoat if the turncoat picked to side with Brookmonds? That technically would mean they have no killing power. Additionally, would the new turncoat get to pick a win condition?
    Yes.
    No, they canít pick a wincon unless the old turncoat died on d1 and therefore did not pick a wincon.
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    Thread:Nuclear Apocalypse

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    We can shoot down nuclear missiles?! How come they have evasion 100 on civ 5?! That's pure fear mongering right there
    Iím not sure how itís done. I believe they use high-power lasers for this
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    That reminds me. In a certain Cub IV scenario you can literally make your cities immune to nukes.
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    Thread:Nuclear Apocalypse

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    Why wouldn't you target civilian centres with your nukes? Isn't the ability to annihilate enemy infrastructure the main advantage of nukes? We didn't exactly target small Japanese cities or military bases the last time we used nukes.
    Dunno. This doesnít mean much but both Russia and America have agreed not to target population centers in the event of a nuclear war. Obviously industrial targets would be targeted in spite of this pledge - cruise missiles exist but as far as I know, there are no high yield precision cruise missiles that can be fired out of an ICBM silo. So civilian targets would possibly be targeted - although this would probably occur with relatively low yield, highly accurate weapons. While the death toll would be considerable, it would probably not envelop an entire city unless the city were small.

    Furthermore, the first things that would get targeted almost beyond the shadow of doubt would be missile silos and storage facilities. A lot of nukes would probably be wasted on those. I donít really know, but my suspicion is that the military has some serious air defense units protecting nuclear areas - so youíd probably need many rockets to take down one nuclear silo. Lots of rockets would probably be used tactically, in support of a ground war. So the number of missiles theyíd use on cities would be rather limited.
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    Thread:Nuclear Apocalypse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Mmmmm, I think it would be, though. If two countries shoot eachother, the war between them probably isn't over, first of all. And then you get the immense amount of radioactive fallout that causes illness if it doesn't straight up kill people. Animals get it too. Also, annihilating life on the other continent can be tempting if you think the people there will forever be enemies, or if you think you won't be able to invade or occupy the place. It's a bit like razing cities in civ 4 lol.

    I'll stick with Frinckles' point, though: it's probably not a good idea.
    The radioactive fallout lasts for around 6 months. And, btw, if Russia were to launch its operational nukes at the US, only 1.2% of the entire US could be completely bombarded with nukes. It would definitely kill millions and might possibly look somewhat like the Black Death.
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    Thread:S-FM 304: Instant Mafia

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    Thread:S-FM Journey to Huygens (13P)

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    [Ready for Review] ►►Re: S-FM Journey to Huygens (13P)◄◄

    I donít think I can review my own setup... thatíd be dirty @Marshmallow Marshall if you review this Iíll review yours
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    Thread:S-FM Galactic Flight (Hidden)

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    [WIP] ►►S-FM Galactic Flight (Hidden)◄◄

    S-FM Galactic Flight (13-15p)
    I am legally obliged to tell you the following things:
    There is a majority faction (a town), and at least one scum faction - either mafia or cult - with potentially other factions in play as well.
    This isn’t a bastard setup; no funky reality benders are in play, nor is it an all-citizen setup.


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    Agreed. Itís just that its a common (mis-)conception that nuclear war would be the apocalypse.
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    Civilization would probably not end, either. The Black Death killed anywhere between 25% to 75% of the European population, and yet here we are.
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    I believe we wouldnít be killed off n the event of a nuclear war though.
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    True but the Cheyenne mountain complex would almost certainly be targeted in a war, simply because it is a major command center. I doubt whether civilian population centers would be targeted in times of war.
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    ►►Re: spend 2 days making a report and he gets watch list◄◄

    I think we should ban everyone to prevent early onset Alzheimerís, which is a very well known side effect of playing the mod too much
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    Thread:Sc2Mafia Dungeon and Dragons

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    Thread:Help us with Point Restores

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    ►►Re: Help us with Point Restores◄◄

    I would but... I no longer have access to my bank unfortunately
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    The evidence for psychopathy needs to be overwhelming, as well as evidence for the crime. It would be something that youíd have to be able to confirm with actual brain scans or something that cannot be manipulated (shirt if literally making up a brain scan)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    So we eliminate them?
    I really donít want to say that, itís quitr tricky to eliminate someone just because theyíre a psychopath. I donít like pushes in that direction because it can easily lead to a plethora of other issues centered around mental health. At that point, whatís to stop you from bugging psychopathic CEOsí apartments just because theyíre psychopaths and this constitute a security/legal threat? In theory, I think the idea isnít bad but thereís a huge potential for abuse there
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    The time has come for the oppressed SC2Mafians to rise up in revolt against the fascist admins. Intaro shall be our leader!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    I find it hilarious that the people complaining in this thread have completely ignored the fact that Blizzard doesn't like us banning people and the arcade staff risks having the entire mod taken down.

    Nah, fuck that. Let's just shit on the staff!

    PS:
    I don't find it funny at all.
    No, eat the staff. The staff donít deserve anything.
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    Anyway this isnít even remotely relevant so idk why you brought that up
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    Hacker was a really good player. I was friends with him. The reason it look so long to get him banned was because he actually did play to win, most of the time. The thing is, he spammed. A LOT.
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    AFAIK, there is no intervention that can be made that can stop adult psychopaths.
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    Oh yes absolutely. Even more so in fact. Around 80-90% of psychopathic killers reoffend, compared to 40% of non-psychopathic ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by secondpassing View Post
    "Fifteen percent of the prison population qualifies as psychopathic, while fifty to eighty percent qualify for ASPD," said Athena Walker citing: Ogloff JR. Psychopathy/antisocial personality disorder conundrum. Aust N Z J Psychiatry. 2006;40(6-7):519-528. doi:10.1080/j.1440-1614.2006.01834.x

    So you're right, a not-insignificant number of criminals are not psychopaths, you can even say a majority are not psychopaths, depending on your definition of that word. So anywhere between 7 and 40 percent of rehabilitation efforts are wasted.

    -As not everyone is rehabilitated (some prisons only have rehabilitation for 10 percent of their population source I forget from where)
    True but I was talking about violent crimes. How many violent criminals are psychopathic?
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    The first thing I thought of when you mentioned memory wipes was the Terran Dominion from StarCraft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    If memory wipes on an industrial scale was possible I'd be terrified.
    Same
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    Lol no. It was just an idea. Iím thinking technology wil be the deciding factor here. Maybe in the future brain surgery will have advanced to the point where cognitive problems like psychopathy will become surgically curable
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    That gives me an idea. Maybe you could implant chips into peopleís heads to forestall aggression in particularly aggressive people.
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    I think we should ban everyone who is cringe enough to play the mod. I had to take my 16-year old son to a neurosurgeon because playing the mod literally gave him neurodegeneration. He lost brain cells playing that game. Banning people is only good for them! That game is literally a furry game made by space aliens who want to dumb you down so they can take over.
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    I donít want to say that we should exclude those that arenít psychopathic, or even worse to execute those who ARE psychopathic, but that seems like an effective solution. Although at the same time, not all psychopaths commit crimes (although they are definitely people you wouldnít want to be around).
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    I donít know much about rehabilitation, but as far as I can tell a not-insignificant percentage of people who commit violent crimes are not psychopathic. These ones are probably redeemable... I suspect the majority of violent criminals arenít - especially with horrific crimes like rape or murder. I do support the death penalty for those who cannot be rehabilitated, although this should be balaneced such that you need an overwhelming amount of evidence to execute someone.

    Iíve heard that male aggression declines between 20-27. So if someone went to jail when they were 20, thereís a chance they may be rehabilitated by the time theyíre 27.
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    ►►Re: Right-wing liberalism vs Conservvatism◄◄

    When youíre ready to discuss this without emotions getting in the way, let me know. Until then, I am done. This really is my last post on this thread.
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    The only time someone has agreed with me in this thread or not attacked me is when I took the leftist side.
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    Dude saying that someoneís argument is a red herring OVERAND OVER is not logical. I know Iím not the most straightforward person and oftentimes I am wrong, but nobody can be THAT wrong.
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    Honestly I donít even remember the original purpose of this thread, except that I understood my own beliefs a lot better after reading some paper. We all went on tangents that had nothing to do with the thread.
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    Iím literally arguing the left is more radical and that they have no business painting right wingers as nazis when there is absolutely no evidence of this being the case, and then you launch into whatsboutisms about something Trump said. Sure, I agree that he fucked up there but one wrong move doesnít make one a nazi.
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    No, saying Iím deflecting and distracting is a complicated ad hominem and itís one I refuse to engage in, because honestly every time I look at this thread I hope that MAYBE someone will finally agree with something that I have to say. But I know itís never happening, because the points are make are cordial reasoning, deflections, defenses of Nazism or god knows what else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    For example, the media reports that the "Unite the Right" rally is a nazi rally attended by nazi supporters

    People on the right call foul, claim the rally had lots of good people who were just defending a statue and say the media should stop "painting them as nazis"

    Yet the rally was literally a nazi rally attended by nazis

    There's no painting being done here. If you dont want to.be associated with nazis, its up to you to distance yourself from them. First step is to make sure you arent caught accidentally defending them like you have in this post.
    Yes. That is one scenario where the right was wrong. I didnít say the right didnít do stupid shit. I said the left did more of it, and you canít deny that if you look at the state of the world today.
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    Youíre literally the only people I know who are ignoring the fact that the media and society at large is very left - leaning, and radical. Even leftists in real life agree with me in that something us seriously wrong. Thereís nothing wrong with being a leftist, but radicalism is where I draw the line.
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    Honestly, if you guys canít have a mature discussion and address my points instead of calling what Iím saying and doing Ďdeflecting, distractingí or saying that Iím defending nazis (which is a very reprehensible thing to say to someone you purport to like), then you need to grow the hell up. Stop attacking my character and address the points Iím trying to make. I literally feel like Iím talking to a wall and every time I find something to reach to you, itís like you stick it together imperfectly with duct tape, leaving me with a smaller hole which I can use to try to get to you. But then, that process continues indefinitely until thereís no holes left. I am done. Unless someone is willing to address the points Iím trying to make in a mature, adult, and constructive way, I am done posting in this thread. Good nye
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    Yes I can. Why wouldn't I be able to?

    So, I haven't seen reasonings support of the fact that right wingers have nothing to do with Nazi-ism. In this thread, I have seen evidence of the contrary.

    That aside, this thread is about right wing conservatism, not why right wing tactics are ok given that we "allow" left wing folks to get away with bad things. It's hard to talk about one without talking about the other, sure. But you can't justify bad things because the other side is doing bad things. Which you are clearly doing here.
    Iím not doing that, and it definitely isnít at all clear that that is what Iím doing, because Iím not doing that st all. There is nothing moral about painting right wingers as nazis when there is a far more pressing concern on the left with regards to radicalism. One could almost call it deflecting - it is definitely a form
    of willful blindness and one has to ask themselves - why? Well, thereís a few possible reasons. The first and simplest reason is that the media (and the politicians they support) are lying about their actual intent, and their baseless (and in some cases, scientifically wrong) ideologies are actually just a smokescreen that they donít expect anyone to seriously believe in (although college students seem to be quite vulnerable to this). The overwhelming majority of right wingers arenít nazis, and there is absolutely no evidence that they are. Nobody is defending racist policies here or saying we should enact any.
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    Youíre acting like one situation like that is in any way comparable to the influence the media holds, and which they use to push radical left ideology. I see this reflected in the pervasive PC culture that is inescapable nowadays. Affirmative action (which is actually quite racist and doesnít help people, by the way) is a good example. Bright students are being discriminated against on the basis of their ethnicity. It doesnít help black students either, lowering entry standards doesnít help anyone.

    The movements to dismantle statues, many of which have very little to do with racism or even slavery, is another aspect. What does Churchill have to do with racism or slavery? Sure he had some racist views, but the man literally thought against one of the most oppressive regimes in history and was a great philosemite. There are many other examples. What does Christopher Columbus have to do with anything? He discovered (or, rather, REdiscovered) the American continent. Nobody celebrates him for his role in the expansion of the Spanish Empire, which resulted in the near destruction of relatively advanced civilizations like the Aztecs, the Mayans (the Mayan League had already stopped existing by the time Europeans got there, but I still count it because the Mayan civilization itself was still extant at the time of his first landing), or the Incans.

    The constant, down-your-throat force feeding of PC-agenda - in movies, video games, books - is another good example. Do you know what effect gender ideology has on children? Because it ainít a good one.

    Finally, the fundamentally racist, racial rhetoric the media likes to peddle around nowadays that pits (primarily) white vs black is another example of the radical left-wing ideology that is being peddled around. I think the left needs to deal with their crazy cousins before they can worry about the right. Hell, theyíre the reason the radical right has seen a surge in popularity nowadays. The left really canít adopt a moralistic tone now because theyíre the reason for the mess we find ourselves in.
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    Thread:Are you Into 3D Printing?

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    3D printing is dope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oops_ur_dead View Post
    Riddle me this: If the Confederacy wasn't fascist, how come when you take the fascist national focus in Hearts of Iron IV you play as the Confederate States of America?
    Idk, when you play as Fascist Australia you become the Platypus Empire
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