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[vote]FM-Franklin D Roosevelt[/vote]

-vote FM-Franklin D Roosevelt

I don't think the vote worked but all I did was copy paste it so pls help if you know how to fix thanks

I don't think the vote worked but all I did was copy paste it so pls help if you know how to fix thanks

in case i'm not around tomorrow morning im placing my vote here

-vote FM-Franklin D Roosevelt

in case i'm not around tomorrow morning im placing my vote here

-vote FM-Franklin D Roosevelt

[QUOTE=FM-Franklin D Roosevelt;969307]I have trouble seeing the rationale or your vote on Jefferson, and then right here you even give him an out. It is almost like you are not being sincere with your vote and maybe you are using it as a distraction? Planting the seeds here to take your vote off of him?

If you really believed he was scum, why would you give him an out?[/QUOTE]

I really don't think it's strange for a town player who's being suffocated by multiple players (including myself) not posting much or being very active to want to try to find town players. town players should always be trying to find town in addition to wolves. points have been made against jefferson which you are free to refute, but idk how you aren't seeing those points when theyve been pointed out multiple times?

Originally Posted by FM-Franklin D Roosevelt

I have trouble seeing the rationale or your vote on Jefferson, and then right here you even give him an out. It is almost like you are not being sincere with your vote and maybe you are using it as a distraction? Planting the seeds here to take your vote off of him?

If you really believed he was scum, why would you give him an out?

I really don't think it's strange for a town player who's being suffocated by multiple players (including myself) not posting much or being very active to want to try to find town players. town players should always be trying to find town in addition to wolves. points have been made against jefferson which you are free to refute, but idk how you aren't seeing those points when theyve been pointed out multiple times?

[QUOTE=FM-James Monroe;969305]Why do you suspect nixon? Seems like a lot of people do but I'm not getting a very coherent explanation.[/QUOTE]

I don't think anybody likes my lackadaisical posting tbh

Originally Posted by FM-James Monroe

Why do you suspect nixon? Seems like a lot of people do but I'm not getting a very coherent explanation.

I don't think anybody likes my lackadaisical posting tbh

[QUOTE=FM-George Washington;969297][SIZE=4]𝒜𝓇𝑒 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝓅𝓇𝑜𝓅𝑜𝓈𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓌𝑒 𝓂𝒶𝓎 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝑜𝓃𝑒? 𝒲𝒾𝓁𝓈𝑜𝓃?[/SIZE]

[SPOILER=Print]Are you proposing that we may have one? Wilson?[/SPOILER][/QUOTE]

unfortunate that is a possibility, cuz i was gonna note the point that wilson was my biggest supporter and if I was maf i'm not touching him day 2

but maybe he just pulled a fast one on us (reallllllyyy hoping not tho)

Originally Posted by FM-George Washington

π’œπ“‡π‘’ π“Žπ‘œπ“Š π“…π“‡π‘œπ“…π‘œπ“ˆπ’Ύπ“ƒπ‘” 𝓉𝒽𝒢𝓉 π“Œπ‘’ π“‚π’Άπ“Ž 𝒽𝒢𝓋𝑒 π‘œπ“ƒπ‘’? π’²π’Ύπ“π“ˆπ‘œπ“ƒ?

Spoiler : Print :

Are you proposing that we may have one? Wilson?

unfortunate that is a possibility, cuz i was gonna note the point that wilson was my biggest supporter and if I was maf i'm not touching him day 2

but maybe he just pulled a fast one on us (reallllllyyy hoping not tho)

[QUOTE=FM-George Washington;969295][SIZE=4]𝒯𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓅𝑜𝓈𝓉 𝓌𝒶𝓈 𝒾𝓃 𝓇𝑒𝒻𝑒𝓇𝑒𝓃𝒸𝑒 𝓉𝑜 𝓎𝑜𝓊. 𝒴𝑜𝓊 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝟣𝟦 𝓅𝑜𝓈𝓉𝓈 𝑜𝓋𝑒𝓇 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒸𝑜𝓊𝓇𝓈𝑒 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝓇𝑒𝑒 𝒹𝒶𝓎𝓈, 𝟣𝟤 𝑜𝓋𝑒𝓇 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒸𝑜𝓊𝓇𝓈𝑒 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝟤 𝒹𝒶𝓎𝓈 𝓎𝑜𝓊'𝓋𝑒 𝒷𝑒𝑒𝓃 𝒾𝓃 𝓎𝑜𝓊𝓇 𝓈𝓁𝑜𝓉. 𝒯𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝒶𝓃 𝒶𝒷𝓎𝓈𝓂𝒶𝓁𝓁𝓎 𝓁𝑜𝓌 𝓃𝓊𝓂𝒷𝑒𝓇. 𝒴𝑜𝓊 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓁𝑜𝓌𝑒𝓈𝓉 𝓅𝑜𝓈𝓉 𝒸𝑜𝓊𝓃𝓉 𝒷𝓎 𝒶 𝒻𝒶𝒸𝓉𝑜𝓇 𝑜𝒻 𝟤.𝟧𝓍. 𝒜𝓃𝒹 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝓉𝒶𝓁𝓀 𝒶𝒷𝑜𝓊𝓉 𝒽𝑜𝓌 𝑒𝓋𝑒𝓇𝓎𝑜𝓃𝑒 𝒻𝑒𝑒𝓁𝓈 𝒶𝒻𝓀???[/SIZE]

[SPOILER=Print]That post was in reference to you. You have 14 posts over the course of three days, 12 over the course of the 2 days you've been in your slot. That is an abysmally low number. You have the lowest post count by a factor of 2.5x. And you talk about how everyone feels afk???[/SPOILER][/QUOTE]

glad I thought the same thing

Originally Posted by FM-George Washington

𝒯𝒽𝒢𝓉 π“…π‘œπ“ˆπ“‰ π“Œπ’Άπ“ˆ 𝒾𝓃 𝓇𝑒𝒻𝑒𝓇𝑒𝓃𝒸𝑒 π“‰π‘œ π“Žπ‘œπ“Š. π’΄π‘œπ“Š 𝒽𝒢𝓋𝑒 𝟣𝟦 π“…π‘œπ“ˆπ“‰π“ˆ π‘œπ“‹π‘’π“‡ 𝓉𝒽𝑒 π’Έπ‘œπ“Šπ“‡π“ˆπ‘’ π‘œπ’» 𝓉𝒽𝓇𝑒𝑒 π’Ήπ’Άπ“Žπ“ˆ, 𝟣𝟀 π‘œπ“‹π‘’π“‡ 𝓉𝒽𝑒 π’Έπ‘œπ“Šπ“‡π“ˆπ‘’ π‘œπ’» 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝟀 π’Ήπ’Άπ“Žπ“ˆ π“Žπ‘œπ“Š'𝓋𝑒 𝒷𝑒𝑒𝓃 𝒾𝓃 π“Žπ‘œπ“Šπ“‡ π“ˆπ“π‘œπ“‰. 𝒯𝒽𝒢𝓉 π’Ύπ“ˆ 𝒢𝓃 π’Άπ’·π“Žπ“ˆπ“‚π’Άπ“π“π“Ž π“π‘œπ“Œ π“ƒπ“Šπ“‚π’·π‘’π“‡. π’΄π‘œπ“Š 𝒽𝒢𝓋𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝑒 π“π‘œπ“Œπ‘’π“ˆπ“‰ π“…π‘œπ“ˆπ“‰ π’Έπ‘œπ“Šπ“ƒπ“‰ π’·π“Ž 𝒢 π’»π’Άπ’Έπ“‰π‘œπ“‡ π‘œπ’» 𝟀.πŸ§π“. π’œπ“ƒπ’Ή π“Žπ‘œπ“Š 𝓉𝒢𝓁𝓀 π’Άπ’·π‘œπ“Šπ“‰ π’½π‘œπ“Œ π‘’π“‹π‘’π“‡π“Žπ‘œπ“ƒπ‘’ π’»π‘’π‘’π“π“ˆ 𝒢𝒻𝓀???

Spoiler : Print :

That post was in reference to you. You have 14 posts over the course of three days, 12 over the course of the 2 days you've been in your slot. That is an abysmally low number. You have the lowest post count by a factor of 2.5x. And you talk about how everyone feels afk???

glad I thought the same thing

[QUOTE=FM-Thomas Jefferson;969282]If the mostly AFK people are town you're making life for the rest of us a pain in the ass[/QUOTE]

sorry

Originally Posted by FM-Thomas Jefferson

If the mostly AFK people are town you're making life for the rest of us a pain in the ass

sorry

[QUOTE=FM-Franklin D Roosevelt;969280]I am down to vote Nixon. His demeanor is off in my opinion. A tad too confident.[/QUOTE]

I imagine you wish you could be as naked and unafraid as I am. americans like me are born exuding unwavering confidence

too bad ur probs wolf tho. womp womp

Originally Posted by FM-Franklin D Roosevelt

I am down to vote Nixon. His demeanor is off in my opinion. A tad too confident.

I imagine you wish you could be as naked and unafraid as I am. americans like me are born exuding unwavering confidence

too bad ur probs wolf tho. womp womp

[QUOTE=FM-Lyndon B Johnson;969267]Honestly I personally liked your interaction with Nixon on both sides of the argument, whereas I really disliked Nixon/Jefferson on Jefferson's side. I do wonder also what you saw that I didn't.[/QUOTE]

he saw the tunnel

Originally Posted by FM-Lyndon B Johnson

Honestly I personally liked your interaction with Nixon on both sides of the argument, whereas I really disliked Nixon/Jefferson on Jefferson's side. I do wonder also what you saw that I didn't.

he saw the tunnel

[QUOTE=FM-James Madison;969264]The only thing I'm going to say rn is that I don't think Roosevelt dies unless the other Roosevelt is town or unless he really was dangerous
With people trying to vote Roosevelt if you leave b oth of them alive ot adds to more confusion instead of govo k g people a straight shot[/QUOTE]

yeah idk about that

Originally Posted by FM-James Madison

The only thing I'm going to say rn is that I don't think Roosevelt dies unless the other Roosevelt is town or unless he really was dangerous
With people trying to vote Roosevelt if you leave b oth of them alive ot adds to more confusion instead of govo k g people a straight shot

yeah idk about that

[QUOTE=FM-Abraham Lincoln;969252]Eisenhower can be town 4 this.[/QUOTE]

I feel like eisenhower was town for all their posts tbh

Originally Posted by FM-Abraham Lincoln

Eisenhower can be town 4 this.

I feel like eisenhower was town for all their posts tbh

[QUOTE=FM-Abraham Lincoln;969253]If scum is only ones we trying then we deserve to lose.[/QUOTE]

well if you're town and you're trying then that sorta nullifies this statement, no? cuz then town is already trying

Originally Posted by FM-Abraham Lincoln

If scum is only ones we trying then we deserve to lose.

well if you're town and you're trying then that sorta nullifies this statement, no? cuz then town is already trying

[QUOTE=FM-Dwight D Eisenhower;969254]I agree nixon mad woofish[/QUOTE]

woof woof *wags tail*

Originally Posted by FM-Dwight D Eisenhower

I agree nixon mad woofish

woof woof *wags tail*

[QUOTE=FM-James Monroe;969226]It being 2 nights doesn't make much of a difference. George was consensus town and the mayor. The Brits would be right in thinking that a doctor would likely be on him, even on the second night.

Besides - killing the president early on isn't *objectively* the best play. You kill the president early on, America just votes a new one in. American heroes like Truman and Theodore? We don't get em back.[/QUOTE]

I am crying for our fallen heroes

no but actually I like this post

Originally Posted by FM-James Monroe

It being 2 nights doesn't make much of a difference. George was consensus town and the mayor. The Brits would be right in thinking that a doctor would likely be on him, even on the second night.

Besides - killing the president early on isn't *objectively* the best play. You kill the president early on, America just votes a new one in. American heroes like Truman and Theodore? We don't get em back.

I am crying for our fallen heroes

no but actually I like this post

[QUOTE=FM-Franklin D Roosevelt;969227]Oh yeah, I forgot a second mayor would be elected. I suppose that does disincentivize killing the mayor and instead trying to get other TPR.[/QUOTE]

*forgets biggest mechanic of the game* "oh right haha" lmao youre killing me fdr

Originally Posted by FM-Franklin D Roosevelt

Oh yeah, I forgot a second mayor would be elected. I suppose that does disincentivize killing the mayor and instead trying to get other TPR.

*forgets biggest mechanic of the game* "oh right haha" lmao youre killing me fdr

[QUOTE=FM-Abraham Lincoln;969247]Nobody bloody listens to me.[/QUOTE]

maybe it's because you're alone and wrong and not alone and right but either way you are being far too stubborn

Originally Posted by FM-Abraham Lincoln

Nobody bloody listens to me.

maybe it's because you're alone and wrong and not alone and right but either way you are being far too stubborn

[QUOTE=FM-Dwight D Eisenhower;969240]And for the love of god make posts.

If town actually amp up their efforts today, the mafia will be exposed I think. Just be so towny that it's obvious and let me do the rest if you must.[/QUOTE]

I love a man who leads *swoon*

Originally Posted by FM-Dwight D Eisenhower

And for the love of god make posts.

If town actually amp up their efforts today, the mafia will be exposed I think. Just be so towny that it's obvious and let me do the rest if you must.

I love a man who leads *swoon*

[QUOTE=FM-Thomas Jefferson;969236]Going for me is the lazy lynch for scum currently, their entire play revolves around the N1 death of Mr. Truman.

As much as I despise OMGUS, I cannot townread those pushing hard for me when I [B]know[/B] that that's what the scum's plan is.

Liking me now Mr. Johnson? I know how much you appreciate that word.[/QUOTE]

there is no way you think you're the lowest hanging fruit in this fat ass fruit tree

Originally Posted by FM-Thomas Jefferson

Going for me is the lazy lynch for scum currently, their entire play revolves around the N1 death of Mr. Truman.

As much as I despise OMGUS, I cannot townread those pushing hard for me when I know that that's what the scum's plan is.

Liking me now Mr. Johnson? I know how much you appreciate that word.

there is no way you think you're the lowest hanging fruit in this fat ass fruit tree

[QUOTE=FM-Dwight D Eisenhower;969216][VOTE]FM-Thomas Jefferson[/VOTE][/QUOTE]

good vote

Originally Posted by FM-Dwight D Eisenhower

-vote FM-Thomas Jefferson

good vote

[QUOTE=FM-James Monroe;969172]Woodrow... Sort of feels like he could be mislynch bait? Just feels too easy.[/QUOTE]

it was very obvious that it was too easy and he was just LHF. zero reason to scum read him unless you disagree/ dislike his read on me which a lot of people did

Originally Posted by FM-James Monroe

Woodrow... Sort of feels like he could be mislynch bait? Just feels too easy.

it was very obvious that it was too easy and he was just LHF. zero reason to scum read him unless you disagree/ dislike his read on me which a lot of people did

[QUOTE=FM-Franklin D Roosevelt;969168]To me kind sir, you appear naked, but not unafraid.[/QUOTE]

that's because you pay for the VIP stuff :)

Originally Posted by FM-Franklin D Roosevelt

To me kind sir, you appear naked, but not unafraid.

that's because you pay for the VIP stuff

[QUOTE=FM-Abraham Lincoln;969167]I doubt if you were town you would be thinking or playing this way, in fact. I’m giving you respect here by assuming that you are just scum playing bad rather than an completely clueless town.[/QUOTE]

I mean hey if you can be wrong on me, I can be wrong on you but I'm not anti-town enough to be stubborn about it

Originally Posted by FM-Abraham Lincoln

I doubt if you were town you would be thinking or playing this way, in fact. I’m giving you respect here by assuming that you are just scum playing bad rather than an completely clueless town.

I mean hey if you can be wrong on me, I can be wrong on you but I'm not anti-town enough to be stubborn about it

[QUOTE=FM-Abraham Lincoln;969164]I am your biggest attacker.
And if i haven’t kept pointing out that you look scummy i’m pretty sure you would have kept cruising and doing fuckall.
And i’m referencing to how you lightly shade me which feels like an scummy reaction to discredit my push.[/QUOTE]

I would argue that I'm just pushing against bad pushes and maybe you should consider that you aren't brilliant for trying to push LHF

Originally Posted by FM-Abraham Lincoln

I am your biggest attacker.
And if i haven’t kept pointing out that you look scummy i’m pretty sure you would have kept cruising and doing fuckall.
And i’m referencing to how you lightly shade me which feels like an scummy reaction to discredit my push.

I would argue that I'm just pushing against bad pushes and maybe you should consider that you aren't brilliant for trying to push LHF

[QUOTE=FM-Abraham Lincoln;969065]As i said earlier, i voted Eisenhower. Almost voted JFK, before deciding that putting in Eisenhower whom was an townread of mine that had less presence D1 would increase their likelihood of not just dying from an scum kill as i suspected JFK might have been if they were made president. It seems like i made the right choice.[/QUOTE]

I need to catch up on a couple pages of posting but I still *hate* this post. like abe makes it to pretend like he did something useful when it objectively was null

Originally Posted by FM-Abraham Lincoln

As i said earlier, i voted Eisenhower. Almost voted JFK, before deciding that putting in Eisenhower whom was an townread of mine that had less presence D1 would increase their likelihood of not just dying from an scum kill as i suspected JFK might have been if they were made president. It seems like i made the right choice.

I need to catch up on a couple pages of posting but I still *hate* this post. like abe makes it to pretend like he did something useful when it objectively was null

[QUOTE=FM-Abraham Lincoln;969166]Let me explain what i don’t like about your read on me and why i feel it betrays your scum alignment.

Basically it just doesn’t seem like you genuinely are trying to understand where i’m coming from, or explain why my posts are scum indicative.
You literally just went: "He is an active scum that is trying to look townie. Why? He just is. And it’s working you guys! You’re falling for it!!"
Just feels like a bunch of scum garbage to justify your scumread on me rather than any semblance of authenticity.[/QUOTE]

there is no way you literally called me scum on a gut read and when you asked me to explain why I wasn't hard TR'ing you, I gave explicit reasoning such as your wolf sided mechanical take day 1 and feeling like your posts are performative, AND THEN made this post. the audacity. check yourself lmfao

Originally Posted by FM-Abraham Lincoln

Let me explain what i don’t like about your read on me and why i feel it betrays your scum alignment.

Basically it just doesn’t seem like you genuinely are trying to understand where i’m coming from, or explain why my posts are scum indicative.
You literally just went: "He is an active scum that is trying to look townie. Why? He just is. And it’s working you guys! You’re falling for it!!"
Just feels like a bunch of scum garbage to justify your scumread on me rather than any semblance of authenticity.

there is no way you literally called me scum on a gut read and when you asked me to explain why I wasn't hard TR'ing you, I gave explicit reasoning such as your wolf sided mechanical take day 1 and feeling like your posts are performative, AND THEN made this post. the audacity. check yourself lmfao

[QUOTE=FM-Franklin D Roosevelt;969153]Catching up on the thread, Nixon just radiates this angsty nervous energy, that strikes me as off. In this back and forth with Lincoln, if it is TvS, Lincoln strikes me as the T.[/QUOTE]

I'm of the professional opinion that you are falling for the wolf in president's clothing. he needs to wear it to appear towny. me on the other hand, aha well, I can just be naked and unafraid.

Originally Posted by FM-Franklin D Roosevelt

Catching up on the thread, Nixon just radiates this angsty nervous energy, that strikes me as off. In this back and forth with Lincoln, if it is TvS, Lincoln strikes me as the T.

I'm of the professional opinion that you are falling for the wolf in president's clothing. he needs to wear it to appear towny. me on the other hand, aha well, I can just be naked and unafraid.

[QUOTE=FM-Theodore Roosevelt;969144]Why is that? He was so unmemorable to me that I have no memory of him at all. Could you please explain this stance, sir?


Jefferson, I doubt Truman's horrible assassination was performed to frame anyone. Mr. Truman was a very respected man, and nobody would ever have been able to convinced a majority of good Americans to lynch him. This state of affairs is much more likely to have been a cause of his death than anything else; thus, I enjoin everyone not to draw hasteful conclusions by believing the kill was made to frame you, Mr. Jefferson, despite your statement in #457.[/QUOTE]

you know, I ISO'd eisenhower to give you an answer as to why I miss him, and now I don't know why I missed him. I think I combined him with wilson in my head, cuz I thought eisenhower came in with some fun, but I didn't see any fun. I don't think he's much of anything except null with FDR right now

Originally Posted by FM-Theodore Roosevelt

Why is that? He was so unmemorable to me that I have no memory of him at all. Could you please explain this stance, sir?


Jefferson, I doubt Truman's horrible assassination was performed to frame anyone. Mr. Truman was a very respected man, and nobody would ever have been able to convinced a majority of good Americans to lynch him. This state of affairs is much more likely to have been a cause of his death than anything else; thus, I enjoin everyone not to draw hasteful conclusions by believing the kill was made to frame you, Mr. Jefferson, despite your statement in #457.

you know, I ISO'd eisenhower to give you an answer as to why I miss him, and now I don't know why I missed him. I think I combined him with wilson in my head, cuz I thought eisenhower came in with some fun, but I didn't see any fun. I don't think he's much of anything except null with FDR right now

[QUOTE=FM-Thomas Jefferson;969143]With all due respect Mr. Nixon, there is no need to personally attack another gentleman in this forum.

I also find it funny seeing as I know that the scum has tried to frame me by killing Mr. Truman that you would be so bold as to push me early into the day while that though is fresh in everyones minds.[/QUOTE]

I feel like you misinterpreted what I said, because I didn't push you. I didn't like the posts you made, that's really it. I didn't push with a vote, and in the post you quoted above, I am defending (against lincoln) your right to preemptively consider that you are being framed by NK.

Originally Posted by FM-Thomas Jefferson

With all due respect Mr. Nixon, there is no need to personally attack another gentleman in this forum.

I also find it funny seeing as I know that the scum has tried to frame me by killing Mr. Truman that you would be so bold as to push me early into the day while that though is fresh in everyones minds.

I feel like you misinterpreted what I said, because I didn't push you. I didn't like the posts you made, that's really it. I didn't push with a vote, and in the post you quoted above, I am defending (against lincoln) your right to preemptively consider that you are being framed by NK.

[QUOTE=FM-Thomas Jefferson;969141]The more this gentleman posts the more and more my opinion of him regresses.

[B]This also looks like a bit of a slip to me.[/B]



I know this was in reference to our dear Mr. Teddy Roosevelt, however I am in that conclusion for the time being.[/QUOTE]

the statement "wolves don't always try harder" is an objective statement. and unless this is anyone's first FM game, this has been experienced by all people here. which is why slanking is always an issue when it comes to determining whether the slanking is wolf or town in any given context. I feel like you are trying dummy hard to make nothing into something when it comes to my slot

Originally Posted by FM-Thomas Jefferson

The more this gentleman posts the more and more my opinion of him regresses.

This also looks like a bit of a slip to me.



I know this was in reference to our dear Mr. Teddy Roosevelt, however I am in that conclusion for the time being.

the statement "wolves don't always try harder" is an objective statement. and unless this is anyone's first FM game, this has been experienced by all people here. which is why slanking is always an issue when it comes to determining whether the slanking is wolf or town in any given context. I feel like you are trying dummy hard to make nothing into something when it comes to my slot

[QUOTE=FM-Abraham Lincoln;969125]It’s the difference between a slimey looking fella that is likely off doing backstage deals with Chairman Mao, while Wilson has seemed a bit more frantic which could signal either a scum or a town that is being a bit hysterical, and thus is either scumtelling or just town that is looking very scummy due to their bad logic.
So i’m more torn on deciding if Wilson truly is bad or not, whereas Nixon is still very much an shifty fella i wouldn’t hesitate to keep an very close watch on if i could.[/QUOTE]

if wilson thinks most of the wolves are high posters then it makes sense that (if he is town) he believes himself as a low posting town, then me, as a low poster, would also be town. hope that bridged that those 2 issues for you since I think you're SR'ing wilson for not elaborating his read on me but then also SR'ing him for having a conflicting opinion on whether wolves are high posting or not.

Originally Posted by FM-Abraham Lincoln

It’s the difference between a slimey looking fella that is likely off doing backstage deals with Chairman Mao, while Wilson has seemed a bit more frantic which could signal either a scum or a town that is being a bit hysterical, and thus is either scumtelling or just town that is looking very scummy due to their bad logic.
So i’m more torn on deciding if Wilson truly is bad or not, whereas Nixon is still very much an shifty fella i wouldn’t hesitate to keep an very close watch on if i could.

if wilson thinks most of the wolves are high posters then it makes sense that (if he is town) he believes himself as a low posting town, then me, as a low poster, would also be town. hope that bridged that those 2 issues for you since I think you're SR'ing wilson for not elaborating his read on me but then also SR'ing him for having a conflicting opinion on whether wolves are high posting or not.

[QUOTE=FM-Abraham Lincoln;969124]Maybe that is part of the reason why i still like my Nixon vote a bit more. I think Nixon fits the bill pretty nicely for a scum that lightly shaded their biggest attacker before leaving and shirking his duties to be active in this thread.[/QUOTE]

who was my biggest attacker? I didn't feel threatened at all. most read me as null or town except for a handful and even tdr rolled around to acknowledging I might not be the scum he thought I was. I didn't do much shading yesterday either. please tell me who you think was my biggest attacker and when did I shade them? because I literally don't know what or who you are referencing with this post.

Originally Posted by FM-Abraham Lincoln

Maybe that is part of the reason why i still like my Nixon vote a bit more. I think Nixon fits the bill pretty nicely for a scum that lightly shaded their biggest attacker before leaving and shirking his duties to be active in this thread.

who was my biggest attacker? I didn't feel threatened at all. most read me as null or town except for a handful and even tdr rolled around to acknowledging I might not be the scum he thought I was. I didn't do much shading yesterday either. please tell me who you think was my biggest attacker and when did I shade them? because I literally don't know what or who you are referencing with this post.

[QUOTE=FM-Abraham Lincoln;969123]I do not believe Jefferson would have the foresight to guess that if he as scum killed his biggest conscientor that the rest of the thread would find him townier as an result. It is, in fact scums typical M.O. to try not to upset others or do anything that they think would make town find them sus.[/QUOTE]

sorry, what? you don't believe jefferson would have known that *if he was scum* and killed the guy who sussed him, that the rest of the players might not notice?

am I understanding that correctly?

if yes, then do you just assume everybody is as thoughtless as you? I don't think it's a weird thing to consider as town or wolf. NK analysis always happens. and when you are intimately intertwined with the person who died, the magnifying glass may find itself upon you.

(but if I misunderstood the original message, then please disregard the above response and elaborate so I can give a proper and accurate response)

Originally Posted by FM-Abraham Lincoln

I do not believe Jefferson would have the foresight to guess that if he as scum killed his biggest conscientor that the rest of the thread would find him townier as an result. It is, in fact scums typical M.O. to try not to upset others or do anything that they think would make town find them sus.

sorry, what? you don't believe jefferson would have known that *if he was scum* and killed the guy who sussed him, that the rest of the players might not notice?

am I understanding that correctly?

if yes, then do you just assume everybody is as thoughtless as you? I don't think it's a weird thing to consider as town or wolf. NK analysis always happens. and when you are intimately intertwined with the person who died, the magnifying glass may find itself upon you.

(but if I misunderstood the original message, then please disregard the above response and elaborate so I can give a proper and accurate response)

[QUOTE=FM-Thomas Jefferson;969121]I'm going to respond to part of this.

[B]If you still believe I killed the late Mr. Truman than you are horribly mistaken. We had quite the discussion late into the night before EOD that I think changed his opinion on me at least a bit.

On a different note, in what world would me killing Mr. Truman be the right move if I were scum? A better kill would have likely been someone who reads other people as town as to draw less suspicion.[/B]

Moreover, Mr. Monroe, I think you have been fooled by the enemy and ask you reconsider your opinion.[/QUOTE]

unless i'm remembering incorrectly, I don't think anyone had truman as not town read, so it could just as easily be an IC kill. night 1 NK analysis generally lacks futility IMO so I don't think we should spend too many brain cells coming up with 100 and 1 reasons truman died unless someone points out some huge brain point from ISO's yesterday or something that actually leads to a read on a specific person

Originally Posted by FM-Thomas Jefferson

I'm going to respond to part of this.

If you still believe I killed the late Mr. Truman than you are horribly mistaken. We had quite the discussion late into the night before EOD that I think changed his opinion on me at least a bit.

On a different note, in what world would me killing Mr. Truman be the right move if I were scum? A better kill would have likely been someone who reads other people as town as to draw less suspicion.

Moreover, Mr. Monroe, I think you have been fooled by the enemy and ask you reconsider your opinion.

unless i'm remembering incorrectly, I don't think anyone had truman as not town read, so it could just as easily be an IC kill. night 1 NK analysis generally lacks futility IMO so I don't think we should spend too many brain cells coming up with 100 and 1 reasons truman died unless someone points out some huge brain point from ISO's yesterday or something that actually leads to a read on a specific person

[QUOTE=FM-James Madison;969120]I didn't even see nixon[/QUOTE]

I was hoping nixon was a short guy so I could make a short joke but google tells me he is 6 ft tall so there goes that

Originally Posted by FM-James Madison

I didn't even see nixon

I was hoping nixon was a short guy so I could make a short joke but google tells me he is 6 ft tall so there goes that

[QUOTE=FM-Abraham Lincoln;969118]And idk where Nixon went, but his little pop-in wasn’t impressive to me. And i expect more, as well as answer to my question.
I expect more from everyone tbh, i feel like i’m seeing the same people and doing my little soliluquy while nobody else does anything.[/QUOTE]

my pop ins will never impress you so you better find another way to read me instead of very, painfully, obviously going after the LHF without much thought

Originally Posted by FM-Abraham Lincoln

And idk where Nixon went, but his little pop-in wasn’t impressive to me. And i expect more, as well as answer to my question.
I expect more from everyone tbh, i feel like i’m seeing the same people and doing my little soliluquy while nobody else does anything.

my pop ins will never impress you so you better find another way to read me instead of very, painfully, obviously going after the LHF without much thought

[QUOTE=FM-Abraham Lincoln;969116]So scum has a lot of power against town already and can probably coast very easily if there is less activity in the game (which i would argue there has been most of the time), and Wilson is like "scum are all in the active players"?? seriously?
Ok i'm totally fine with both Nixon and Wilson getting the boot from office now.[/QUOTE]

that's because you're being intellectually lazy and your attempted derp clears aid me in thinking you're being irrational/thoughtless or just power wolfing at this point

Originally Posted by FM-Abraham Lincoln

So scum has a lot of power against town already and can probably coast very easily if there is less activity in the game (which i would argue there has been most of the time), and Wilson is like "scum are all in the active players"?? seriously?
Ok i'm totally fine with both Nixon and Wilson getting the boot from office now.

that's because you're being intellectually lazy and your attempted derp clears aid me in thinking you're being irrational/thoughtless or just power wolfing at this point

[QUOTE=FM-John F Kennedy;969102]Do you think Wilson and Nixon are partnered?[/QUOTE]

would be some pretty obvious potato head level -200 IQ partnering if we're both w/w

Originally Posted by FM-John F Kennedy

Do you think Wilson and Nixon are partnered?

would be some pretty obvious potato head level -200 IQ partnering if we're both w/w

[QUOTE=FM-Abraham Lincoln;969095]Instead of this pointless crap, can you explain why you townread Nixon.[/QUOTE]

I'm an easy town read if you aren't a wolf trying to pretend like you don't already know i'm town

Originally Posted by FM-Abraham Lincoln

Instead of this pointless crap, can you explain why you townread Nixon.

I'm an easy town read if you aren't a wolf trying to pretend like you don't already know i'm town

[QUOTE=FM-Woodrow Wilson;969076]does that sound just a little too good to be true? you should know this is a difficult game where mafia tries MORE than town[/QUOTE]

well wolves don't always try harder, that's why slanking is always an issue to contend with when it comes to deciphering whether slanking is a townie or wolf. labeling me and wilson as scum when our very little interactions aren't really weird is LHF. but keeps the real slanker as null. kek and a half

[QUOTE=FM-Thomas Jefferson;969063]I think now would be a good time for me to put my updated reads list:

Town:
FM-Thomas Jefferson
FM-Theodore Roosevelt (Conversation driver, very good answers when asked questions)
FM-Lyndon B Johnson (We mindmelded early on and I believe he is still town, I have liked what he has said so far)
FM-George Washington (Just all around towny, voted him for president yesterday)
FM-John F. Kennedy (Drives the conversation, usually there all the time to solve and ask questions
FM-James Madison (This is the one I’m not really sure of currently, he had a very strong BD1 but teetered off near the end)
FM-Abraham Lincoln (His comments BD2 resonated as very strong townie vibes, contrary to his D1 performance)
FM-James Monroe (Good analysis so far in D2 from him, I am happy putting him here because of it)
FM-Dwight D Eisenhower (Stopped existing after his brief stint during D1, I had him under town before, and seeing as the wolves decided to try and bait people into voting me and with him scumreading me, I believe he is town.)



Null:

FM-Franklin D Roosevelt (This honorable gentleman still has barely posted)




Scum:
FM-Woodrow Wilson ( He looks like he treads water with his posts, rather than advancing like a true American Gentleman would. His post during D1 about voting Mr. Nixon as president was also very odd, along with their dialogue.)
FM-Richard Nixon (What has he really said? Doesn’t drive conversation, and had an incredibly odd dialogue with Mr. Wilson during D1. I’m also not a fan of his read on Lincoln from D2)

I really want my last scum to be Mr. FDR but in all likelihood one of the people that townread me D1 is likely scum. They assassinated Mr. Truman in an attempt to make the people scumreading me focus on me, which quite notably failed.

For the record I'm going to go through everyone that posted a D1 reads list and see if I can find any red flags, but that's what I have for now.

[B]As always gentlemen, It is an honor and a pleasure to work alongside you all.[/B][/QUOTE]

just hate it!

Originally Posted by FM-Woodrow Wilson

does that sound just a little too good to be true? you should know this is a difficult game where mafia tries MORE than town

well wolves don't always try harder, that's why slanking is always an issue to contend with when it comes to deciphering whether slanking is a townie or wolf. labeling me and wilson as scum when our very little interactions aren't really weird is LHF. but keeps the real slanker as null. kek and a half

Originally Posted by FM-Thomas Jefferson

I think now would be a good time for me to put my updated reads list:

Town:
FM-Thomas Jefferson
FM-Theodore Roosevelt (Conversation driver, very good answers when asked questions)
FM-Lyndon B Johnson (We mindmelded early on and I believe he is still town, I have liked what he has said so far)
FM-George Washington (Just all around towny, voted him for president yesterday)
FM-John F. Kennedy (Drives the conversation, usually there all the time to solve and ask questions
FM-James Madison (This is the one I’m not really sure of currently, he had a very strong BD1 but teetered off near the end)
FM-Abraham Lincoln (His comments BD2 resonated as very strong townie vibes, contrary to his D1 performance)
FM-James Monroe (Good analysis so far in D2 from him, I am happy putting him here because of it)
FM-Dwight D Eisenhower (Stopped existing after his brief stint during D1, I had him under town before, and seeing as the wolves decided to try and bait people into voting me and with him scumreading me, I believe he is town.)



Null:

FM-Franklin D Roosevelt (This honorable gentleman still has barely posted)




Scum:
FM-Woodrow Wilson ( He looks like he treads water with his posts, rather than advancing like a true American Gentleman would. His post during D1 about voting Mr. Nixon as president was also very odd, along with their dialogue.)
FM-Richard Nixon (What has he really said? Doesn’t drive conversation, and had an incredibly odd dialogue with Mr. Wilson during D1. I’m also not a fan of his read on Lincoln from D2)

I really want my last scum to be Mr. FDR but in all likelihood one of the people that townread me D1 is likely scum. They assassinated Mr. Truman in an attempt to make the people scumreading me focus on me, which quite notably failed.

For the record I'm going to go through everyone that posted a D1 reads list and see if I can find any red flags, but that's what I have for now.

As always gentlemen, It is an honor and a pleasure to work alongside you all.

just hate it!

[QUOTE=FM-Abraham Lincoln;969066]Why are you not a fan of me good sir.
Although i might guess the reason, but i want to hear your thoughts on it.[/QUOTE]

I don't feel like ISO'ing to pull up multiple quotes but you out the gate made a poor analysis about mech that would be more in favor of wolves. you sorta like, sound towny in that it seems like you're trying, but i'm of the opinion you don't seem to flow with the thread that well and not a lot of your posts make me feel like you aren't a wolf in president's clothing

Originally Posted by FM-Abraham Lincoln

Why are you not a fan of me good sir.
Although i might guess the reason, but i want to hear your thoughts on it.

I don't feel like ISO'ing to pull up multiple quotes but you out the gate made a poor analysis about mech that would be more in favor of wolves. you sorta like, sound towny in that it seems like you're trying, but i'm of the opinion you don't seem to flow with the thread that well and not a lot of your posts make me feel like you aren't a wolf in president's clothing

[QUOTE=FM-Abraham Lincoln;969065]As i said earlier, i voted Eisenhower. Almost voted JFK, before deciding that putting in Eisenhower whom was an townread of mine that had less presence D1 would increase their likelihood of not just dying from an scum kill as i suspected JFK might have been if they were made president. It seems like i made the right choice.[/QUOTE]

well jfk didn't die so I think your choice was entirely null but go ahead and announce how smart of it was for you (as wolf)

Originally Posted by FM-Abraham Lincoln

As i said earlier, i voted Eisenhower. Almost voted JFK, before deciding that putting in Eisenhower whom was an townread of mine that had less presence D1 would increase their likelihood of not just dying from an scum kill as i suspected JFK might have been if they were made president. It seems like i made the right choice.

well jfk didn't die so I think your choice was entirely null but go ahead and announce how smart of it was for you (as wolf)

EBWOP I meant monroe smh

EBWOP I meant monroe smh

[QUOTE=FM-James Monroe;969085]I absolutely do not like that you are piggy backing off of Abraham's framing argument. It feels disingenuous and like you're trying to sweep the whole thing under the rug and come out looking like you were "framed".

Truman also suspected me and FDR. Do you not think, from your PoV at least since, that Truman could possibly have been killed for having potentially 2/3rds correct scum reads?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-James Monroe;969083]Very rarely do scum perform kills with the sole intention of framing someone. I find it interesting that this is not only the first conclusion you jump to, but that you find it more *likely* than British Jefferson just killing Truman.

Do you town read Jefferson or something?[/QUOTE]

truman looking kinda sexy right now

Originally Posted by FM-James Monroe

I absolutely do not like that you are piggy backing off of Abraham's framing argument. It feels disingenuous and like you're trying to sweep the whole thing under the rug and come out looking like you were "framed".

Truman also suspected me and FDR. Do you not think, from your PoV at least since, that Truman could possibly have been killed for having potentially 2/3rds correct scum reads?

Originally Posted by FM-James Monroe

Very rarely do scum perform kills with the sole intention of framing someone. I find it interesting that this is not only the first conclusion you jump to, but that you find it more *likely* than British Jefferson just killing Truman.

Do you town read Jefferson or something?

truman looking kinda sexy right now

i'm not really a fan of lincoln atm but i'm alright with tdr he can slide for now

i'm not really a fan of lincoln atm but i'm alright with tdr he can slide for now

I miss eisenhower I liked him when he was around

I miss eisenhower I liked him when he was around

[QUOTE=FM-Theodore Roosevelt;969039]Mr. Truman was a true American. I sincerely regret his loss. His attempt to fool the anti-American forces seems to have succeeded, and we are all thankful to him for this.

I believe it would be in our interest to publicly state who we voted for President and why. The more we make people speak their mind, the stronger our democracy is, for the more information we hold, the more are we likely to find those who seem disingenuous. I voted for JFK last night because of his general positive thread presence; he has been expressing himself in a way that looks like a genuine stream of consciousness, and the events surrounding his read on me and my own misinterpretation of his post reinforced this belief. That being said, I am still in favor of our current President, Mr. Washington.

I will await your reads, Mr. Jefferson. Thank you for your cooperation.[/QUOTE]

I voted truman for president

Originally Posted by FM-Theodore Roosevelt

Mr. Truman was a true American. I sincerely regret his loss. His attempt to fool the anti-American forces seems to have succeeded, and we are all thankful to him for this.

I believe it would be in our interest to publicly state who we voted for President and why. The more we make people speak their mind, the stronger our democracy is, for the more information we hold, the more are we likely to find those who seem disingenuous. I voted for JFK last night because of his general positive thread presence; he has been expressing himself in a way that looks like a genuine stream of consciousness, and the events surrounding his read on me and my own misinterpretation of his post reinforced this belief. That being said, I am still in favor of our current President, Mr. Washington.

I will await your reads, Mr. Jefferson. Thank you for your cooperation.

I voted truman for president

[QUOTE=FM-Abraham Lincoln;969017]And if you want to know why, it's pure detective gut.[/QUOTE]

yeah you really nailed it sherlock

Originally Posted by FM-Abraham Lincoln

And if you want to know why, it's pure detective gut.

yeah you really nailed it sherlock

[QUOTE=FM-Harry S Truman;968780]Not really. I believe my worries can only be assuaged through more direct means of solving from Monroe. Once I see how their thought expand as the topic goes on can I see how they operate can I put to bed my earlier doubt.

Basically of all of the people who have posted so far Monroe for me right now has the highest bar for me not accepting anything about solving as being a pro town action. I would like to hear more thoughts on players and less about mechanical theory from the gentleman.[/QUOTE]

I like this

Originally Posted by FM-Harry S Truman

Not really. I believe my worries can only be assuaged through more direct means of solving from Monroe. Once I see how their thought expand as the topic goes on can I see how they operate can I put to bed my earlier doubt.

Basically of all of the people who have posted so far Monroe for me right now has the highest bar for me not accepting anything about solving as being a pro town action. I would like to hear more thoughts on players and less about mechanical theory from the gentleman.

I like this