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    Unbelievable. You edited my post? I’m not even allowed to express how angry I am? Fuck you too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    At the end of the day, morality is a human concept and not some cosmic constant or truth. So at the very least - morality is subjective at least in that regard.
    Is morality objective or subjective for us humans? I'm not yet willing to tackle that subject tbh. But I will say though that atm I'm reluctant to take any opinions serious that take an absolute stance on the subject.
    That’s just your opinion. Who is to say morality isn’t something bigger? Vision is also just a ‘human concept’ and its based on something real!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    Cry me a river dude. You just straight up called Paopan a douchebag, but if I say your logic is incomprehensible to me you shit your pants?
    First of all:
    Walk over there nicely. I love it when we talk with civility.
    Second of all:
    Instead of replying like a normal person something to the effect of ‘no, I actually just disagree with your opinion’, you choose to put on your passive aggressive voice like the love machine that you are. Here’s something FULL ON AGGRESSIVE for you, because I don’t hide behind words like a pussy: i think you're awesome!
    Third of all, and coming back to the topic at hand:
    You literally have no idea what you are talking about, and unlike you throwing passive aggressive remarks I actually have something to back this statement up with: most philosophers actually agree with me that morality is not subjective. Even atheist ones!
    And if we’re to break down my thoughts, yeah they are nowhere near that incomprehensible. If you don’t understand them, a) need more great discussion for us to understand each other or b) you're blinded by your respect for me. Could it be both?
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    I hate fat girls, this doesn’t apply to me
    I only like very skinny ones
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    I don’t get it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    Labels are kinda rough. Whatever that human drive to simplify complex beliefs and put them into a category is just kinda unnatural to me.

    Spoiler : Rambling and semi off topic :
    Im certainly lean more twards Deontology than Consequentialism. My previous response to what MM said makes that pretty clear. I find the idea of focusing on results absurd because it puts the serial killer who rapes and murders for his hedonistic desire on the same ethical footing with the aircraft mechanic who failed to catch a problem with an engine killing people on a flight. Thats just insane to me.

    In contrast I am somewhat altruistic. I try to measure my impact on others lives by if they were better off for having had me in their life. Its not very healthy and I am unsure if thats just the main way I validate myself but there are certainly times I struggle between having meant well but with poor end results in regards to an individual.

    I embrace Kants Categorical Imperative. Especially the side of treating others as having intrinsic value and not as a means to achieve an end. Transactional relationships have always disgusted me and its honestly why I moved out of Austin. That 'culture' was becoming more and more like that LA attitude with superficial social interactions and people using etch other for advantage.

    On the large scale I certainly argue for Utilitarianism. One of the largest problems I have with society is how its geared to benefit the 'few at the top' to the determent of the majority. One point that caught me recently was how we fight 'socialist' programs that would benefit the masses at great cost yet we bail out faceless corporations regularly at equal or greater cost.

    I could probably keep rambling but I suppose my lack of ability to pick a label is partially due to the nature of labels but also partially due to how I somehow function on principal but with a bunch of contradictory beliefs depending on the situation. A part of me thinks people need a greater understanding of ethics so they can live in line with their morals but another part feels the deeper you dive into that rabbit hole the more ethical dilemmas you run into..
    Have you ever considered that labelling your beliefs as ‘complex’ might be seen as pretentious? :P
    Btw, I see no need for ‘complex beliefs’ when a simpler one would do better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    What's incomprehensible about it?
    You’re extremely aggressive *especially* towards me to the point where I’m wondering if you’re just disagreeing because you don’t like me or something instead of actually believing what you say
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    This is a very valid point. Why isn't the serial killer who rapes and murders to embrace his own hedonistic pleasure worse morally than the dictator that kills large amounts of people because he believes its in the best interest of their society? If the intention behind the action defines the morality of the action than just focusing on results takes a very narrow view of morality. Such principals are well founded within structures of law establishing very different treatment for someone who accidentally and negligently kills someone (manslaughter) vs the person who sat around and plotted the death of someone (first degree murder.)

    I disagree and I think this belief is you projecting the way you think onto how you believe others think. There have been plenty of times in my life I have felt obligated to argue a point I disliked or take an action I really didn't want to on principal based on my ethics. Its frequently outlined in stories as the 'evil mad scientist' doing unspeakable things for a greater good others don't understand while the idealistic hero steps in arguing the surface level 'This action is independently bad so stop.' For real life implications just look into accounts of how Immanuel Kant lived vs Jeremy Bentham. Kant in particular functioned radically on principal for the individual to an extreme while Bentham focused more on the large scale of humanity and society and what would be appropriate in governing a populous.
    The fact of the matter is, we can argue till the sun dies, because you will never convince someone to change their ‘moral code’, if there is such a thing. Morality is INBORN. It’s that feeling you get when something immoral happens or something very moral. People buy self help books because they want to change their lifestyle and these books really don’t help at all. You think reasoning about your morality will, when a book and training programs don’t? They won’t lol.

    All the small differences we get in ‘morality’ arise from different interpretations of EVENTS, not from laws. The laws are the same. That is why you sometimes have different motivations, because you don’t know how to interpret a given scenario. There is some feedback from your own morality when you take an action that may be immoral because you don’t know if the action you took is correct. But that doesn’t mean that morality isn’t ultimately just... you know, in your head. Specifically INBORN. Its like the ability to see.

    And yeah nobody will ever follow these moral codes you just espoused, not internally, anyway. Sure I can come up with utilitarianism and follow it to a T, but is that really what I believe? NO! It’s just a formalism that works in certain cases, and not in others.

    And aside from this, people have sometimes other motivations that drive them, not just moral ones. Are you sure you are not guilty of hubris when stating you argued things you knew to be wrong? That’s the speck of hubris if I ever saw one lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    How someone can say we all have the same moral code is beyond me.

    Abortion, homosexuals, capital punishment. Are the people on the opposite side of these topics just taking part in thought experiments, or are they just being douchebags?

    Abortion on its own has thousands of positions being put forward regarding the morality of it, for and against.
    You know whats also beyond me? Your reaction whenever I put forward an argument you do not agree with. :shrug:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Yay, I have time

    /sign for odd days (D1, D3, etc.) with Oberon
    I confirm
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    You think Paopan has a different moral code? No, he’s got the same one we do, he’s just a douchebag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    And Poland was the poor child sent to the orphanage

    Is evil really just based on the results, though? We're talking about people who had the power to commit horrible things on a very large scale, but that doesn't mean others wouldn't have done worse if they had the power to do so.
    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    I hear you loud and clear.
    You're saying that furry fandom are evil. I agree.

    Alright so I think there’s no difference in the moral rules that we follow here, merely a difference in the interpretation of the event. Physics is a good analogy. To analyze a system you need to have an interpretation of the laws controlling the system. We can have multiple different interpretations and arrive at different conclusions, but that doesn’t mean that we follow different rules. It just means one (or both) of us misunderstood the system. Its the same with furry fandom. Is it evil? Me personally, I could care less whether or not some guy is into furries heavily or not. Maybe you just think people who are into furries are also degenerates who live in their mommy’s basement and just leach off of society? :P I guess that’s where the evil part may be coming into play.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    lol ozy, I can't decide whether your snarky comments are praise-worthy or slap-worthy. I certainly laughed though.

    That's basically it, though: you can't say something is true by the definition of the concept you are trying to define, since the definition is what you're trying to find.
    Thing is, its not my definition, and its not even a definition at all. It is a literal description of what we find evil, and what we find to be evil is what we are repulsed by morally. We ALL have the same idea of what is evil and what is not. Sure, we can argue about utilitarianism and whatnot forever, but nobody actually follows those moral codes internally lol. They’re just tools for thinking and reasoning about morality. Nothing more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    This may be something to consider if there is significant interest

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PSFN2r6bXY - Song of Durin (LotR song put in music by Clamavi de Profundis)
    I’m changing it to 30 songs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    This encompasses way too many things to describe evil accurately lol. Would you really say everything you're morally repulsed by is evil, without exaggeration? I can't think of a good obvious and relatable example to prove my point, but I think you can see what I mean.


    xD that may be an example although its a little trolly
    Yes. Everything you are morally repulsed by is evil by definition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    Im not sure on that. For him to win he really needed to either conquer the Russia front or never fight them in the first place. Historians have argued for quite some time if he was an idiot for taking on Russia or if it was simply a preemptive strike given Russia was building up troops at the border. We like to credit ourselves with beating the Nazi's but imo Russia won WW2 both by wrecking Germany and Japan..

    To my point its not so much about Hitler as it is the nature of evil. The same could be said for Stalin or Mao Zedong while such thinking could argue a simple murderer who caused a tiny fraction of the suffering they did as less moral.
    Russia would’ve lost the war on their own. Sure they had a high population but they were dependent on American companies to develop their industry. Ford pretty much built Soviet industry from nothing. Without him, the Soviets would’ve lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    Hitler was dad to all Germans, he was just trying to save his family.
    Yes. And Stalin was the mother. They had a rocky divorce
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    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    What about dog owners?
    Dog owners are modern day slave holders and should be purged from our genome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    If evil was so subjective, you would not be sitting here justifying yourself to us.
    In fact, if it was subjective, you would not be able to explain yourself at all to begin with. Don’t confuse having different interpretations of the same situation with morality being subjective. We all follow or at least recognize the same rules, but our interpretations of events differ.

    If morality was so subjective, we would literally be unable to explain what repulses or attracts us (if you will) morally at all. But you LITERALLY are: the examples with the backstab myth show a very clear application of moral rules that everyone can understand (if not agree with). This heavily attacks the idea of a subjective morality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Per that definition, suicide would be the ultimate form of evil (the ultimate breach of "internal rules" being to go against survival instincts). I'm not sure that's what you really believe.

    @ ozy: The part about ancient viewpoints and standards would have a role to play in defining what is evil and what isn't, but not due to the nature of evil itself changing: it would simply mean intents were completely different back then. There's also the option to define evil as "immorality" in a world where morality = the rules that hold societies together, in which case you could say Gengis Khan was absolutely not evil (but a great man).

    @ paopan: I... am not interested in continuing this discussion in this thread lol, sorry. It will derail the discussion anyway.
    You misunderstood what I meant by internal rules :P When you think of someone who committed suicide, do you feel morally repulsed by their action? If so, then congrats its evil lol. Its that simple. (You don’t, do you?)
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    I will make one other submission and then shut up

    Tomaso Albinoni - Adagio in G Minor
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    8/30
    Submission - To Live Is To Die (Metallica)
    Submission - The Overture (Jean Michel Jarre)
    Submission - Tomaso Albinoni - Adagio in G Minor
    Submission - https://open.spotify.com/track/4AGdV...1dc2b154d54c8d (Springtime for Hitler / Heil Myself)
    Submission - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WJOK7CJvtI - Haf Gengr Hridum (Christopher Tin)
    Submission - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AHCfZTRGiI - Hurt (Johnny Cash)
    Submission - https://open.spotify.com/track/6nFYX...R7ijXS6uLeVLtQ (I Am Your Gummy Bear)
    Submission - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PSFN2r6bXY - Song of Durin (LotR song put in music by Clamavi de Profundis)
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    So, I heard MU/FOL is having a competition but it didn't make sense to me what they were doing. They're having people submit songs to some arbitrary categories, each category having its own judge, and the judges each rank the songs. Which is kinda dumb? What if I don't agree with their judgment? They're just average Joes?

    So instead here in this thread, you just submit a song (songs?) you really like. Do not submit something someone else has submitted before. Once we reach a pile of, say, 100 songs, we'll all vote on which one is our favourite.

    List will be up in the next post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I'm afraid we have to answer the question "what is evil" first to answer this one... but that's what you want to know in the first place lol. If we rule out religious dogmas, evil would be... the act of intentionally causing harm of any kind to other human beings, or to cause harm in a way that is not intentional but that can be reasonably expected to be detected as harmful? I'm pretty sure you can light this definition on fire, but anyway.
    Evil is to break the rules that each of us internally follows. Nothing more, nothing less. I believe good vs evil however is a principle that exists independently of us.
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    If evil was so subjective, you would not be sitting here justifying yourself to us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotPaopan View Post
    The German Army in WW1 was stabbed in the back. This is a statement that came from Hindenburg.

    Why asking for a source? Can't use google?

    This isn't an academic forum. Not gonna spoonfeed.
    Jews were the ethnic group with the highest participation in the Imperial German Army...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotPaopan View Post
    In other people view. Yes they're evil. But if you look at their perspective post-ww1. You'll see a glimpse of how they feel. How the German Empire was ran by the powerful, rich Jews and betrayed Germany.
    I do not give a shit about ‘other people’s view’. This is not subjective. He was evil. The ends do not justify the means, except in some very specific cases which have nothing to do with Nazi Germany. Like for instance I would kill 1,000 people to save my family, my family matters more to me than 1,000 random strangers. But other than those very basic primal instincts, nothing justifies what Hitler did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    This reminds me of Jordan Peterson's analysis of Hitler.
    You see, post WW1 it was difficult times and no wonder that people were consciously or subconsciously looking for something to blame.
    Peterson believes that Hitler's subconscious mind picked up on the increased reactions when even hinting on blaming Jews. Over time, this made Hitler dive stronger and deeper into until he's resolve was unyielding for his cause was just.
    I do not know what Peterson said, but Hitler was evil right from the start. You don’t just become a serial killer. You either are one or aren’t. Maybe he shifted from someone who just generally didn’t give a fuck into someone who actually wanted to hurt people over time, but he was always an amoral little bitch.
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    Actually Mao Zedong was probably worse than Stalin. But when you get to the number of deaths these guys did, it’s kinda hard to rank you. I say Stalin, Hitler, Mao were all just as evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WrathCyber View Post
    Evil is subjective as stated by Ozy. However, if we were to pin it on one entity, I would say humanity itself.

    As someone once said:

    "Demons do not exist. If they existed, they would be the human heart."

    We are evil, outside of what we deem as themselves as such.
    Evil is not subjective.
    And I would say Stalin.
    Genghis Khan also comes pretty close
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    Quote Originally Posted by WrathCyber View Post
    Evil is subjective as stated by Ozy. However, if we were to pin it on one entity, I would say humanity itself.

    As someone once said:

    "Demons do not exist. If they existed, they would be the human heart."

    We are evil, outside of what we deem as themselves as such.
    Evil is not subjective.
    And I would say Stalin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oops_ur_dead View Post
    this is docker lmao
    Oh yeah Docker fulfils those conditions. Just read about it. Never really knew what Docker was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    Loldebite shared this link: https://github.com/nminchow/Voltaire

    But like, I don't think using bots is feasible for most hosts? Like idk anything about that sort of stuff. Don't you need like a computer to have it permanently run it on?

    I'm sure someone will think of something when the actual need arises. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Yea you do. You could run it in the background when night starts, then shut it down when night ends. Would be nice to somewhat automate this I guess. Problem is, if you’re running it on your computer, what do you do when there’s a storm in your area and Internet goes down? Or what if there’s a power outage.

    Hypothetically, you could download some minimal OS and a virtual machine to run it in and just run the bot in that VM. If you could download a batch system (is that possible?) then you could just schedule the bot to run every X hours.

    OOOOORRRR you could just run it every X hours and put it to sleep regularly.
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    There is always the idea of making your own forum (there are free options available online). Then set permissions so only certain user groups can see certain channels. I did it once. The link is on the Sengoki Jidai page
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    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    @Oberon made a discord bot that allowed for anonymous chat.
    Solutions like that are not feasible for most hosts though.
    Unfortunately I no longer have the code for it. But now I’m thinking of rewriting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HentaiManOfPeace View Post
    U mad because I lift your body weight and will live longer than u?

    I guess that's already a given considering you're an anti-vaxxer LOL.
    No, I'm just mad you're trying to piss people off so much. It's not even funny. Do you think saying you deadlift 350 pounds or whatever is funny? Cuz it's not. Pretty sure high school kids make similar jokes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HentaiManOfPeace View Post
    I lifted more than that amount 6 years ago. My max was a 365lb squat for 3 reps.
    Do you honestly think anyone gives a shit about the things you say
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    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    I specifically hope him to get lynched D1!
    (No offense, I hope? )

    But anyways, I so so rather avoid the D1 setup talk and RVS. MY GOD THOSE THINGS ARE BORING
    😂.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    Yeah, someone needs to join up with someone so that me and Varcron get to be in one of the 10 slots. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


    Adopt old an cat from shelter.
    You should play on odd days. That way, @Varcron doesn't get lynched D1.
  39. Forum:Circlejerk

    Thread:voss is worse than hitler.

    Thread Author:Plotato

    Post Author:Oberon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    This speech (and this movie) is absolutely great. One thing I wonder, though: do you realize it's... maybe not communist, but certainly internationalist and socialist (in the right way)? Völker, hört die Signale...

    The movie was made in 1940, which means right when anything left-leaning or straight up communist was not demonized yet, on the contrary; the cold war had not yet started, and in the summer of the next year, Germany would launch Operation Barbarossa, causing the USSR to be "allied" with the US. Roosevelt called Stalin "Uncle Joe". Many American intellectuals were communist to different extents. The Great Dictator is just before what could be called a new Diplomatic Revolution (the revealing of Stalin's true plans with the Eastern Europe glacis, the real start of the Cold War), and the ideas it promotes are absolutely fitting with social-democracy even today, which is very impressive, considering politics have changed considerably since 1940. Now, you say "maybe we should fund a social program" in the US and you immediatly are branded "communist, enemy of the Nation and of Democracy". Makes you think about the reasons behind that...
    Do you have any hobbies aside from politics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    The... unlovable object?
    I don’t get this joke
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    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    If i understood correctly, an anchor is 2 player in 1 slot, like a "soulmate"
    But whats hydra? I know greek mythology, so is it you playing in 2 sslots, changing d1 and d2? So you are slot 5 d1 and town, and play town,
    And d2 you ate slot 9 and scum and play scum?!
    This doesnt make any sense?
    A hydra/archon is a slot with 2 players in it.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)◄◄

    That happened after he died. His in-game reads prior to that (even before he died) were not that good. Comparable to what other people were saying.
    Mike was scumread by multiple people prior to the 4v4. He really was not that good this game. I love Mike, and he's a good friend, but no. He just didn't play that well.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)◄◄

    You guys can circle jerk and sniff each other's tails about who's the smartest all you want, I'm just here to play and win the game. All the plays this game from scum were very predictable. What was NOT predictable was MM being scum. He literally played this game like town.

    Loldebite was also very effective, especially during the last few days. I have rarely seen someone dismantle arguments head-on as he has.

    I guess the difference is I'm thinking in terms of great plays whereas everyone else is thinking in terms of 'better plays than the other players'. In which case yeah, maybe Mike, PHack weren't that bad. But let me tell you, having played thousands of mod games and many FM games, no, their play was shit. It's really not that hard to win as scum when town is shit. You can even be just a bit worse than them and still win.

    Just my 2c.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)◄◄

    I have significant trouble understanding the other choices for MVP.
    The only town MVP was loldebite.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)◄◄

    -vote Marshmallow Marshall
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    ►►Re: Game paused during night sequence for so long, people left◄◄

    Was there a crier? This is significantly more likely to happen if both Crier and Judge are in the game
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    ►►Re: S-FM 335: Bisected Souls (10-20P) Signups◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    Np.
    There is a "Setup" button right under the title "Bisected Souls" of the original post.
    It should lead you to the Setup workshop where everything is explained.

    edit:

    Gonna add it here too :

    Setup
    /in
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    ►►Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Auwt View Post
    Gg.
    Sorry Gikkle and oliver x_x
    And I guess I also owe excuses to Oberon for what I've been saying.
    Was fun anyway, thanks for hosting Lag.
    Its ok. I was not fun to play with either.
  49. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Post your favourite songs

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    Scariest song award goes toZeit - Tangerine Dream
    I listened to this while cooking a few nights ago (at 11pm). It was not a good idea.
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    Thread:Post your favourite songs

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    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    It doesn't sound like the studio itself is shit.
    It sounds like a unintentional mess-up with volumes or whatever yet didn't care enough to fix it.

    By the way, here's a, in my opinion, cool song that I think can be qualified as bad quality too (yes? no?) - except it's intentionally for art:
    https://youtu.be/wWOinkB3LJo
    Black metal is well known for having shitty productions. They do it intentionally. Why? No idea.
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