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  1. Forum:Signups

    Thread:S-FM 336*: (Ladder) Politico II - 12P

    Thread Author:MartinGG99

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    Poll: ►►Re: S-FM 336*: (Ladder) Politico II - 12P◄◄

    How did you come up with those names?
  2. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Nerf Jailor Role

    Thread Author:Serena

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    ►►Re: Nerf Jailor Role◄◄

    Rachyl smurf confirmed
  3. Forum:Signups

    Thread:S-FM 336*: (Ladder) Politico II - 12P

    Thread Author:MartinGG99

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    Poll: ►►Re: S-FM 336*: (Ladder) Politico II - 12P◄◄

    skipping is forbidden? what the shit, this setup is AMAZING.
  4. Forum:Signups

    Thread:S-FM 336*: (Ladder) Politico II - 12P

    Thread Author:MartinGG99

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    Poll: ►►Re: S-FM 336*: (Ladder) Politico II - 12P◄◄

    Meaning, I'll play if you're having trouble filling in the last slot
  5. Forum:Signups

    Thread:S-FM 336*: (Ladder) Politico II - 12P

    Thread Author:MartinGG99

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    Poll: ►►Re: S-FM 336*: (Ladder) Politico II - 12P◄◄

    /reserve until you're waiting on 1.
  6. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Your Game has a Real Racism Problem

    Thread Author:elemental

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    ►►Re: Your Game has a Real Racism Problem◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Wildcat View Post
    Was in a game and i am fairly new and a user called Ching Chong Chang was in the lobby and i am Asian so i was calling out he was racist but he was jailor and so he jailed me and killed me automatically, he then continued to kill confirmed town peoples.
    sounds like you could report him for griefing and gamethrowing too.
  7. Forum:Site Discussion

    Thread:Retirement

    Thread Author:Voss

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    ►►Re: Retirement◄◄

    I'm actually re-retiring.
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    ►►Re: Consequences of extreme automation◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    This seems like more of a power dynamic thing than anything else. Also, why not serious debate thread?
    MM is afraid of what serious debate does to threads
  9. Forum:Mafia 2.0 Public Test

    Thread:New Role Idea: Escape Artist

    Thread Author:Veliaire

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    ►►Re: New Role Idea: Escape Artist◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Veliaire View Post
    And yet it can't do more damage than a Judge at its worse, who can take out all evils on one -lynch. Should we remove Judge from the game now because of that rare possibility?
    Yes.
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    ►►Re: State of American Employment, benefits and lifestyle◄◄

    I still want to understand how facing getting fired is causing people to walk out.
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    ►►Re: State of American Employment, benefits and lifestyle◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    I Think The Biggest Issue Is That The Lock Downs And Extra Money For Unemployment During The Covid Stuff Thats Still On Going Made PPL Lazy And Complacent..
    Couple of questions here:
    1. Why do lockdowns make people lazy?
    2. Given that extra money for unemployment has stopped, why would that extra money continue to make people lazy? Do you think they just have it saved in a bank somewhere? Could the complacency evaporate once the money evaporates? I'm a little confused and would love to hear your reasoning on why money causes lazyness.

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    Also Them Forcing Vaccine Mandates And Requiring A Certificate Of Vaccination Identification.. Is Causing People To Walk Out.. Just One Thought On Why Its Getting So Bad..
    How can being let go from a company cause people to walk out? That's like saying "I quit" after you get fired.
  12. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Selective Punishment

    Thread Author:Veliaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veliaire View Post
    This is not a personal attack against you, or even against the mod in question. I noticed what I saw to be unfair treatment and I am voicing my concerns. We all appreciate the work you unpaid volunteers do to keep this community going, but that doesn't mean that you are all infallible in every situation. What really prompted me to make this thread is when the mod in question admitted he disliked JagdPanther and then suggested to me that I should report people I dislike. That didn't sit right with me, and given my own personality I felt that I should speak up. Please don't take my criticism of one mod's actions as a critique of the SC2 Arcade staff as a whole.
    Slightly fair, but this is how I read that discord conversation. If someone's causing grief in games and I, as a hypothetical moderator, would have to keep dealing with the little shit, it would make me not like this individual. And I take it you also don't like people who ruin games.

    I did not read it as reporting someone for not liking them simply for the sake of not liking them (aka better than you or does annoying unbannable things).
  13. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Selective Punishment

    Thread Author:Veliaire

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    ►►Re: Selective Punishment◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Veliaire View Post
    No. I am saying flat out that the mod in question selectively punished JagdPanther because he doesn't like him, which he admits, while ignoring obvious rule breaking that he himself PUNISHED a couple of months ago... but this isn't your department, so why bother to even reply? I went to you on discord and you blew me off and now you have the gall to say I'm bitching about things in an unproductive way? That's rich.

    But please, lets keep this civil and not take shots at one another because I don't want this thread shut down.
    Dunking on the unpaid volunteer staff is my department.

    Again, you assume this malicious intent from the staff of "ignoring" people, so this thread is not going to be productive for any of us. Please do as the arcade staff has suggested: file more reports, or come up with some suggestion on how to improve the process.
  14. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Selective Punishment

    Thread Author:Veliaire

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    ►►Re: Selective Punishment◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Veliaire View Post
    What's more, the mod admits on discord that he doesn't like JagdPanther and told me that I should start reporting people I hate if I have a problem with them.
    Are you insinuating here that arcade team just bans people they have a problem with or hate? I read the discord messages and you were trying to goad Mr Mostache into saying he picks on people he doesn't like.

    If you don't like the way sc2mafia arcade is run, go volunteer to be a keeper and process reports, or quit the game. Don't bitch about it in an unproductive way here.
  15. Forum:Narrator Discussion

    Thread:Closing down

    Thread Author:Voss

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    ►►Re: Closing down◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I know how hard it is to walk away from a long term project you care about and how it feels to force yourself to push on working on it when it costs you moments in life. I hope this decision brings you enjoyment and if it matters I think what you did do was huge. I can not imagine how many hours you poured into it all but itís good to see you putting yourself first.
    I really appreciate this. It is hard to let go, but I'm not going to be in my 20s forever.
  16. Forum:Serious Discussion & Debate

    Thread:Who was the most evil person?

    Thread Author:Helz

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    ►►Re: Who was the most evil person?◄◄

    We should moderate these kind of posts.
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  18. Forum:Site Discussion

    Thread:I don't like this new policy change tbh

    Thread Author:OzyWho

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    ►►Re: I don't like this new policy change tbh◄◄

    you may open up an answer hall request if you wish to talk to the staff.
  19. Forum:Site Discussion

    Thread:I don't like this new policy change tbh

    Thread Author:OzyWho

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    ►►Re: I don't like this new policy change tbh◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by NightmareFrIEND7 View Post
    Fuck off you fucking bitch. Don't you dare fucking talk about how "staff listens to the community". Do you even have a moral compass? Fuck you. What else do you do other than tell others how they're brave for bringing something random up? Last time you infracted me and retracted the infraction you didn't even fucking apologise btw, I only realised that now.
    I never retracted the infraction. We gave the other person posting personal insults an infraction too.
  20. Forum:Site Discussion

    Thread:I don't like this new policy change tbh

    Thread Author:OzyWho

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    ►►Re: I don't like this new policy change tbh◄◄

    the good call ozy is not sarcastic. thanks for being brave enough to bring this up. staff does try and listen to the community, and there are many examples of this (particularly in the forum mafia side).
  21. Forum:Serious Discussion & Debate

    Thread:Who was the most evil person?

    Thread Author:Helz

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    ►►Re: Who was the most evil person?◄◄

    The most evil person is me for when I close the thread for being too heated.

    More name calling will result in infractions and spicy edits by yours truly.
  22. Forum:Serious Discussion & Debate

    Thread:Who was the most evil person?

    Thread Author:Helz

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotPaopan View Post
    The German Army is still fighting strong in WW1 (To be honest this is hard to evaluate considering how the trench warfare system works. Basically, it's like TvT where both sides are playing marines and siege tanks exclusively). Then one side types GG whilst having 180/200 army supply.

    Then the ones who typed GG" are Hindenburg and Ludendorff who was manipulated by the conservatives powerful jews who represented rich landowners and industrialists.

    Oh course the SCVs would not know what's happening in the front lines right? After the siege tanks and marines came home. They didn't understand why they surrendered... or lost. Hence the blame game. They formed their own thinking and the stabby thing would make sense.

    When you are a commoner, starving... and then there's a man named Hitler who promises you that you can eat and make Germany great again (Ohhh remember this statement from Cheeto in chief). The German people believed him, and he delivered. He literally made Germany great again. Oh, I'm talking about the great depression here. Things are tough around that time.

    So yeah... Again, the whole world started to suffer economically, the German are starving, Hitler became the Fuhrer, and everything changes in a positive way. Connecting the dots now?



    It's hard to exclude religion. I mean... There are people who view things equally. Here's an example.

    "I hate Indians. They are beastly people with a beastly religion. The famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits."

    - Winston Churchill

    The same thing can be said about Chairman Mao. But for Mao, he really did well. To tl;dr my last post about him. His achievements outweigh his sins.



    LOL okay. Still can't accept that the US military is corrupt.

    Blindness is an unfortunate handicap but true vision does not require the eyes.



    I mean yeah... They hated Hitler or Mao cos they committed genocide. But then there's the former US president Andrew Jackson who does the same thing to Native Americans. Trails of tear, Sand Creek, Fort Mims, etc; for reference on @Voss :P



    Well... You guys are probably the hardest hitters regarding the genocide of the ratite family. You are very immoral! :P
    I mean, if you make outlandish claims and can't support them, your words should mean less, right?
  23. Forum:Narrator Discussion

    Thread:Closing down

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    ►►Re: Closing down◄◄

    I'll be disabling the discord integration, as I won't be continuing updates for it.
  24. Forum:Narrator Discussion

    Thread:Closing down

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    ►►Closing down◄◄

    Hey all,

    I've been mulling it for a while, but I think I'm going to close down the narrator for intended public use. Post(?) covid has got me eyeing a less screen time life. Or in other words, I'd like to enjoy real life more than I've been doing. Building and maintaining a game is fucking hard and lonely work. Don't get me wrong though, I've had a blast building it and thrills playing it with all y'all. But I think anymore work I'm going to do with this would be infrastructure work and work to allow me to play this strictly in real life (because I still love the game mafia).

    Shoutout to Unknown for probably being the #1 supporter. I believe he played one of the first iterations back in 2015 and many others since.

    Thanks for the community here.

    -Voss
  25. Forum:Serious Discussion & Debate

    Thread:Who was the most evil person?

    Thread Author:Helz

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotPaopan View Post
    Like what?
    https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post944033

    look at me, backing up my claims with evidence.
  26. Forum:Serious Discussion & Debate

    Thread:Who was the most evil person?

    Thread Author:Helz

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotPaopan View Post
    The German Army in WW1 was stabbed in the back. This is a statement that came from Hindenburg.

    Why asking for a source? Can't use google?

    This isn't an academic forum. Not gonna spoonfeed.
    you've been known to say unproven statements, so forgive me for expressing some doubt here.
  27. Forum:Serious Discussion & Debate

    Thread:Who was the most evil person?

    Thread Author:Helz

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotPaopan View Post
    In other people view. Yes they're evil. But if you look at their perspective post-ww1. You'll see a glimpse of how they feel. How the German Empire was ran by the powerful, rich Jews and betrayed Germany.
    Could you give sources for how Jews betrayed Germany?
  28. Forum:Site Discussion

    Thread:Ruling on "Goofy"

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    ►►Re: Ruling on "Goofy"◄◄

    It's funny how one week Hentai makes fun of Oberon for posting during a game after Obe says he won't post. But the next week he "quits" the site and makes accounts to stroke his own ego.

    So goofy!
  29. Forum:Site Discussion

    Thread:Ruling on "Goofy"

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    ►►Re: Ruling on "Goofy"◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by HentaiManOfPeace View Post
    So let me ask another question then. Wouldn't the infraction points I got before for reporting someone for "goof" or "goofy" be rescinded and removed because of the ambiguity regarding this usage before the admins made an official stance on it?

    I got infracted because I was wasting their time for "stupid shit", but because of their ignorance I was very deeply hurt. Honestly, such unprofessional behaviour for someone who chose to do this position. If you get too many emails, why not just stop admin'ing then?
    No
  30. Forum:Forum Mafia Discussion

    Thread:QuickTopic is shutting down

    Thread Author:Lag

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    ►►Re: QuickTopic is shutting down◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    This is actually half correct. It's difficult AND takes a large amount of time and effort. But you're right in imagining that it is adding new stuff and rewriting existing stuff.

    It's also never going to happen.
    Best first step is to create a new forum. But there's so much history here that it's an extremely uphill battle to move to new forum. It'd be like a multi month unpaid job.
  31. Forum:Forum Mafia Discussion

    Thread:QuickTopic is shutting down

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    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    That's probably either very difficult or takes large amounts of time and effort, but probably both.

    I imagine it's not just adding new stuff and includes rewriting existing stuff?
    (I'm just babbling about things I know nothing about tbh)
    This is actually half correct. It's difficult AND takes a large amount of time and effort. But you're right in imagining that it is adding new stuff and rewriting existing stuff.

    It's also never going to happen.
  32. Forum:Site Discussion

    Thread:Ruling on "Goofy"

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    ►►Re: Ruling on "Goofy"◄◄

    We have a subforum called circle jerk
  33. Forum:Site Discussion

    Thread:Ruling on "Goofy"

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    ►►Re: Ruling on "Goofy"◄◄

    Site Discussion topics are no joke.
  34. Forum:Site Discussion

    Thread:Ruling on "Goofy"

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    ►►Ruling on "Goofy"◄◄

    Quick announcement:

    Since most, if not all the forum moderators are not Canadian, we will not be treating "goofy" as a serious, grave, or infractable word to call someone. Feel free to call people "goofy" on the forums or the discord!

    Please be advised to not use the report system for this, as you may be infracted.

    -Admin team
  35. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:It's Time...

    Thread Author:Veliaire

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    ►►Re: It's Time...◄◄

    Usually these things are done in Answer Hall, if serious.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)◄◄

    Give this man a cookie for intentionally not spamming! ^^

    Why can't I give rep.
  37. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Ozy

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    ►►Re: Ozy◄◄

    Neg rep bomb the fuck out of anyone who doesn't think ozy is awesome.
  38. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Withdrawal from Afghanistan

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    ►►Re: Withdrawal from Afghanistan◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by BigtheJonathan View Post
    Hey so i'm currently serving in the United States Marine Corps and personally for me, it was a horrible move.
    But the worst part is not that we left Afghanistan. The worst part is HOW we left Afghanistan. We left behind 8+ trillion dollars worth of military grade weapons from small arms to missiles, armored vehicles, and aircrafts. We also left behind AMERICAN people left to be stuck there. We also let 13 U.S Service members to die in an attack as a result of the hasty withdrawal.

    Marine Corps Lance Cpl. David L. Espinoza, 20, of Rio Bravo, Texas
    Marine Corps Sgt. Nicole L. Gee, 23, of Sacramento, Calif.
    Marine Corps Staff Sgt. Darin T. Hoover, 31, of Salt Lake City
    Marine Corps Cpl. Hunter Lopez, 22, of Indio, Calif.
    Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Rylee J. McCollum, 20, of Jackson, Wyo.
    Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Dylan R. Merola, 20, of Rancho Cucamonga, Calif.
    Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Kareem M. Nikoui, 20, of Norco, Calif.
    Marine Corps Sgt. Johanny Rosario Pichardo, 25, of Lawrence, Mass.
    Marine Corps Cpl. Humberto A. Sanchez, 22, of Logansport, Ind.
    Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Jared M. Schmitz, 20, of St. Charles, Mo.
    Marine Corps Cpl. Daegan W. Page, 23, of Omaha, Neb.
    Navy Hospital Corpsman Maxton W. Soviak, 22, of Berlin Heights, Ohio
    Army Staff Sgt. Ryan C. Knauss, 23, of Corryton, Tenn.

    God bless these brave men and women... they shall be remembered. May they rest in peace.

    Trump had a plan made specifically to protect the embassies preventing a Taliban take over, and an organized evacuation plan to leave Afghanistan. God bless Trump he's done so much for the country, no one even knows. But President Biden destroyed those plans resulting in an absolute catastrophe.
    That's all I have to say for now.
    Weren't those 8 trillion dollars worth of equipment for the Afghanistan army?
  39. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:I am not posting again for a month

    Thread Author:Oberon

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    ►►Re: I am not posting again for a month◄◄

    Crazy would be the insult here that gave the post a condescending context, not an innocent one. Also your infraction was necro-ing, not personal attacks, so your boo-hooing about bad admins doesn't follow a logical path.

    Closing this thread as there's nothing more constructive left to be said here. I can reopen this thread if Mag thinks this is all on topic.

    Feel free to open up an Answer Hall request to a reversal of your infraction Hentai.
  40. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:I am not posting again for a month

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    Quote Originally Posted by HentaiManOfPeace View Post
    This you, bro?

    https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post945005

    In what world is 12 days = 1 month? By your definition, a year would have 30 months. Unless you're a time traveler, this is not physically possible.

    This is what happens when you let a crazy alt-right anti-vaxxer try to interpret time.
    I feel like this is excessive. He's playing a game.
  41. Poll: ►►Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)◄◄

    I'm not going to continue derailing this thread. Just wanted to unsign, say why, while also saying Lag is super cool.
  42. Poll: ►►Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Lag View Post
    Please file all setup complaints via hunting down Auckmid and complaining directly to him
    majority yeeting was the meta back in the day because they didn't know better.
  43. Poll: ►►Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)◄◄

    /unreserve.

    I think Lag's great, but I cannot, in good conscience, support super scum sided mechanic of majority yeeting.
  44. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Arizona Election Proven Stolen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Wait, that was it?

    Like there wasn't more text to the statement?
    lmfao yes
  45. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Arizona Election Proven Stolen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    https://web.archive.org/web/20210925...-wxnvnq2xcu766

    Looks like there's a snapshot of it, but I don't think it is complete.
    Nah that's exactly what he/they posted. Short excited, but jumped-the-gun falsehoods.
  46. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Arizona Election Proven Stolen

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    ►►Re: Arizona Election Proven Stolen◄◄

    Lmfao. What a humongus fuckin idiot.
  47. ►►Re: New idea: Night one victims HAUNT his/her killer! "wootsauce" mentioned in lobby◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by gregl View Post
    I envision a feature where you can "haunt" your killer with a message from the "beyond." It sucks dying on the first night, no?
    so, haunting means sending one message to your killer. when can you start writing the message and when can you stop editing it before it has to be submitted?
  48. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Arizona Election Proven Stolen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plotato View Post
    fantastic news only that we already knew last year so much for beating the dead horse
    It's different than having an actual investigation show that there were these massive election irregularities in Arizona. I wonder if they go to the Supreme Court now.
  49. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Arizona Election Proven Stolen

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    ►►Re: Arizona Election Proven Stolen◄◄

    The CEO even said that "23,344 people voted when they should no longer have access, or would not normally have access" to voting in Maricopa County because they have moved."

    That's definitely more than the amount that President Trump supposedly lost by

    https://ballotpedia.org/Arizona_election_results,_2020

    "There were 9,041 mail-in voters who were mailed one ballot but somehow two ballots were received, which I do not know how you would have one ballot sent and two received."

    Also within the margin.
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