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[QUOTE=aamirus;869909]lol you're about to trigger voss[/QUOTE]

Uh oh 😄

Originally Posted by aamirus

lol you're about to trigger voss

Uh oh 😄

[QUOTE=Voss;869898] So, in order for me to build a good tutorial, I need to know who I'm creating the tutorial for. On top of that, I'd need volunteers to have a [COLOR="#FFFFFF"]vested interest in helping me make sure that tutorial is solid[/COLOR]. Otherwise it's wasted effort, right?

I'd [B]love[/B] to explore this in this thread or another one! I think another one could be more informative to other forum members though.[/QUOTE]

I think the easiest way to get people to have a vested interest is to run a forum mafia game but on narrator. :laugh:

Originally Posted by Voss

So, in order for me to build a good tutorial, I need to know who I'm creating the tutorial for. On top of that, I'd need volunteers to have a vested interest in helping me make sure that tutorial is solid. Otherwise it's wasted effort, right?

I'd love to explore this in this thread or another one! I think another one could be more informative to other forum members though.

I think the easiest way to get people to have a vested interest is to run a forum mafia game but on narrator.

[QUOTE=aamirus;869889]but actually I fixed the narrator link[/QUOTE]

Thank you very much.

[QUOTE=Voss;869898]I totally agree that some sort of tutorial is necessary!!!! I think this is big fish to fry though and it totally deserves it's own thread for the following questions:

What sort of tutorial are you looking for? Here are a few that come to mind
- Video tutorial, like on youtube.
- Allow start with just yourself, filling in the game with bots
- Build in the proper UI hints that would properly guide new players on the UI and mafia.
- Write up a word doc for Q&A

Who is my target audience?
- Members of sc2mafia, who have arcade mafia experience
[COLOR="#FFFFFF"]- People who've played mafia before, IRL
- People who have never played mafia before[/COLOR]
- People who want to host their own games, without me, Voss, being present.

I could go ahead and do all the solutions above, but that'd take forever and probably have at least some wasted effort. So, in order for me to build a good tutorial, I need to know who I'm creating the tutorial for. On top of that, I'd need volunteers to have a vested interest in helping me make sure that tutorial is solid. Otherwise it's wasted effort, right?

I'd [B]love[/B] to explore this in this thread or another one! I think another one could be more informative to other forum members though.[/QUOTE]

I accessed it through a computer (not sure how the discord version works) I would like to see UI hints(?). I mean, I want narrator to have little text boxes or speech bubbles that guide me through setting up my first game, hopefully it would match the steps to do so. Something like
[LIST=1]
[*]Is this your first time playing mafia? y/n
[*] Pick a setup to run
[*]Invite your friends here!
[*]When they join they will show up in the waiting lobby.
[*]Pick a pre balanced setup or adjust the roles.
[*]Roles will show on the right.
[*]Need to find players for a game? Join our discord!
[/LIST]

The above would be sufficient for me, but I imagine others might want a video. I think a simple screen record and a short voiceover would be sufficient for now. I also don't think a lot of people want to sit though a long tutorial, so I suggest speaking quickly.

My first instinct after looking through all the elements on the narrator site is to hit start just to see what a day would look like, but it won't let me start without three people. I think it would be kinda cool to have an in-game recording so someone could simulate playing a match. If you wanted to appeal to people who never played mafia, I think this would be the way to go. I'm not suggesting that mafia on narrator be available to be played with bots that chat though. If simulating a game on narrator is difficult or too hard, another video of a recorded game could suffice.

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Speech bubbles > video tutorial with voiceover > simulated game

Originally Posted by aamirus

but actually I fixed the narrator link

Thank you very much.

Originally Posted by Voss

I totally agree that some sort of tutorial is necessary!!!! I think this is big fish to fry though and it totally deserves it's own thread for the following questions:

What sort of tutorial are you looking for? Here are a few that come to mind
- Video tutorial, like on youtube.
- Allow start with just yourself, filling in the game with bots
- Build in the proper UI hints that would properly guide new players on the UI and mafia.
- Write up a word doc for Q&A

Who is my target audience?
- Members of sc2mafia, who have arcade mafia experience
- People who've played mafia before, IRL
- People who have never played mafia before
- People who want to host their own games, without me, Voss, being present.

I could go ahead and do all the solutions above, but that'd take forever and probably have at least some wasted effort. So, in order for me to build a good tutorial, I need to know who I'm creating the tutorial for. On top of that, I'd need volunteers to have a vested interest in helping me make sure that tutorial is solid. Otherwise it's wasted effort, right?

I'd love to explore this in this thread or another one! I think another one could be more informative to other forum members though.

I accessed it through a computer (not sure how the discord version works) I would like to see UI hints(?). I mean, I want narrator to have little text boxes or speech bubbles that guide me through setting up my first game, hopefully it would match the steps to do so. Something like

1. Is this your first time playing mafia? y/n
2. Pick a setup to run
3. Invite your friends here!
4. When they join they will show up in the waiting lobby.
5. Pick a pre balanced setup or adjust the roles.
6. Roles will show on the right.
7. Need to find players for a game? Join our discord!

The above would be sufficient for me, but I imagine others might want a video. I think a simple screen record and a short voiceover would be sufficient for now. I also don't think a lot of people want to sit though a long tutorial, so I suggest speaking quickly.

My first instinct after looking through all the elements on the narrator site is to hit start just to see what a day would look like, but it won't let me start without three people. I think it would be kinda cool to have an in-game recording so someone could simulate playing a match. If you wanted to appeal to people who never played mafia, I think this would be the way to go. I'm not suggesting that mafia on narrator be available to be played with bots that chat though. If simulating a game on narrator is difficult or too hard, another video of a recorded game could suffice.

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Speech bubbles > video tutorial with voiceover > simulated game

Didn't want to make a new thread and I didn't know where to post this question:

Shouldn't you make like a tutorial or something? If I wanted to test run a game myself I have nowhere to go, and no idea how to start it up.
Also I think the narrator link on top of the sc2mafia page might be broken.

Didn't want to make a new thread and I didn't know where to post this question:

Shouldn't you make like a tutorial or something? If I wanted to test run a game myself I have nowhere to go, and no idea how to start it up.
Also I think the narrator link on top of the sc2mafia page might be broken.