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[QUOTE=SuperJack;935711]Uh did helz thing the domain buying was real.? XD[/QUOTE]

Lol. I really don’t think it’s possible. You would have to talk to Mike about it but we don’t do the typical ‘go daddy’ domain hosting stuff that allows people to buy the domain when the contract lapses.

Funny story though, someone got the NFL like that a few years back and made them buy it back at a big cost

Originally Posted by SuperJack

Uh did helz thing the domain buying was real.? XD

Lol. I really don’t think it’s possible. You would have to talk to Mike about it but we don’t do the typical ‘go daddy’ domain hosting stuff that allows people to buy the domain when the contract lapses.

Funny story though, someone got the NFL like that a few years back and made them buy it back at a big cost

[QUOTE=ZZorange;935441]Damn I really got under this guys skin I guess.

I don't really know why, my beliefs aren't that out there.

The objective fact is that yes the mods here are biased, that cannot really be disproven and the reasons why are as simple as people's motivations.


There isn't actually anything holding sc2mafia moderators to doing their job well, if they make a bad call they're not going to be reprimanded the only thing potentially keeping them honest is other moderators who also do not having anything preventing them from fucking up.

Then you simply have to think about the mentality of people who choose to sc2mafia moderate.

Nearly all people who volunteer their time to "do something good" to put it vaguely, expect the actions of that time spent to directly benefit someone or some thing.

If you had someone for example giving their time to say volunteer to help vaacinate people, but then you told that person that all of their efforts weren't actually helping anyone and the rest of the team was filling those syringes with just water. The only reason you'd stay there after being told that your actions were essentially worthless, would be if you really enjoyed jabbing people with needles.

This same situation applies to all the moderators of sc2mafia. In truth they know that 100% of the bans doled out can be circumvented easily and any bans they make to most "problem players" can effectively be ignored. Now this isn't really up for debate that's just a fact of how sc2 currently is.

So knowing the fact that any bans handed out can effectively just be ignored, why would anyone who came to sc2mafia to moderate for the good of the people stick around.

Think about it logically, if you knew for a fact anything you did wouldn't have any lasting consequences and you wouldn't be helping anyone, the only reason you would stick around is if there was something else involved in it that you enjoyed doing. IE the rush one gets from flexing their power and getting their rocks off banning someone.

Most things that sane people do can be explained by the things that motivate them, so if I take out the motivation people get from actually doing something that helps people, there has to be something else that motivates them or why would they continue to do it.

Like for instance I enjoy sc2mafia so I continue to play it for example, if I no longer enjoyed it I wouldn't play it.


This isn't anything personnel against the mods but the objective truth is, that they only remain mods to powertrip there's no other realistic motivation they could have when their actual actions are meaningless from a "making the community better" standpoint.


If you want to remain in denial you can try but like it or not you will eventually arrive at the this fundamental truth, because well the truth is the truth because its true. One can't deny reality forever.

Honest Man Out.[/QUOTE]
Just a few thoughts:

I don’t believe anyone can buy the domain. I won’t explain why but it’s just not a thing because this site is not hosted like a site would be if you wanted to make your own site.

I also never understood the position of people destroying players experiences to ‘force staff to stop hurting players experiences’ I face palm every time I see some idiot pretending to have moral grounds for being an asshole.

I have honestly never herd of a punishment system with anywhere near the checks and balances that this site has. Someone pushes a report- that person can’t be involved in the report after that. Then someone else processes the report and yet another person reviews and implements the punishment. Then it can be appealed and yet another person uninvolved up to that point handles a review of the report and punishment. That’s a crazy amount of checks to ensure no unilateral action is taken and eliminate bias.

As for power tripping staff, I did see that at some points but I don’t think it’s been an issue for a very long time. After a while those who craved power were weeded out and those who reluctantly accepted it to preform the function of protecting the community moved up.

At the end of the day moderation is a thankless job. When done right nobody cares and when done wrong you get crucified in a court of public opinion. There is no pay and it takes a lot of work and the ‘power’ you get does not give you much fun in the end. The ‘rules’ were created by the community and you have to accept that when players report you it’s because your behavior is hurting their experience. You also can not blame staff when it’s the community itself that’s taking issue with your behavior.

If you would like to have a conversation on the ethics of moderation I’m game but you really should accept that when you have issues with many people you are the common factor in the situation. It’s my personal belief that game moderation should focus on ensuring an enjoyable experience for the community.

Originally Posted by ZZorange

Damn I really got under this guys skin I guess.

I don't really know why, my beliefs aren't that out there.

The objective fact is that yes the mods here are biased, that cannot really be disproven and the reasons why are as simple as people's motivations.


There isn't actually anything holding sc2mafia moderators to doing their job well, if they make a bad call they're not going to be reprimanded the only thing potentially keeping them honest is other moderators who also do not having anything preventing them from fucking up.

Then you simply have to think about the mentality of people who choose to sc2mafia moderate.

Nearly all people who volunteer their time to "do something good" to put it vaguely, expect the actions of that time spent to directly benefit someone or some thing.

If you had someone for example giving their time to say volunteer to help vaacinate people, but then you told that person that all of their efforts weren't actually helping anyone and the rest of the team was filling those syringes with just water. The only reason you'd stay there after being told that your actions were essentially worthless, would be if you really enjoyed jabbing people with needles.

This same situation applies to all the moderators of sc2mafia. In truth they know that 100% of the bans doled out can be circumvented easily and any bans they make to most "problem players" can effectively be ignored. Now this isn't really up for debate that's just a fact of how sc2 currently is.

So knowing the fact that any bans handed out can effectively just be ignored, why would anyone who came to sc2mafia to moderate for the good of the people stick around.

Think about it logically, if you knew for a fact anything you did wouldn't have any lasting consequences and you wouldn't be helping anyone, the only reason you would stick around is if there was something else involved in it that you enjoyed doing. IE the rush one gets from flexing their power and getting their rocks off banning someone.

Most things that sane people do can be explained by the things that motivate them, so if I take out the motivation people get from actually doing something that helps people, there has to be something else that motivates them or why would they continue to do it.

Like for instance I enjoy sc2mafia so I continue to play it for example, if I no longer enjoyed it I wouldn't play it.


This isn't anything personnel against the mods but the objective truth is, that they only remain mods to powertrip there's no other realistic motivation they could have when their actual actions are meaningless from a "making the community better" standpoint.


If you want to remain in denial you can try but like it or not you will eventually arrive at the this fundamental truth, because well the truth is the truth because its true. One can't deny reality forever.

Honest Man Out.

Just a few thoughts:

I don’t believe anyone can buy the domain. I won’t explain why but it’s just not a thing because this site is not hosted like a site would be if you wanted to make your own site.

I also never understood the position of people destroying players experiences to ‘force staff to stop hurting players experiences’ I face palm every time I see some idiot pretending to have moral grounds for being an asshole.

I have honestly never herd of a punishment system with anywhere near the checks and balances that this site has. Someone pushes a report- that person can’t be involved in the report after that. Then someone else processes the report and yet another person reviews and implements the punishment. Then it can be appealed and yet another person uninvolved up to that point handles a review of the report and punishment. That’s a crazy amount of checks to ensure no unilateral action is taken and eliminate bias.

As for power tripping staff, I did see that at some points but I don’t think it’s been an issue for a very long time. After a while those who craved power were weeded out and those who reluctantly accepted it to preform the function of protecting the community moved up.

At the end of the day moderation is a thankless job. When done right nobody cares and when done wrong you get crucified in a court of public opinion. There is no pay and it takes a lot of work and the ‘power’ you get does not give you much fun in the end. The ‘rules’ were created by the community and you have to accept that when players report you it’s because your behavior is hurting their experience. You also can not blame staff when it’s the community itself that’s taking issue with your behavior.

If you would like to have a conversation on the ethics of moderation I’m game but you really should accept that when you have issues with many people you are the common factor in the situation. It’s my personal belief that game moderation should focus on ensuring an enjoyable experience for the community.