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  1. ►►Re: Scumreading and Townreading. Your thoughts, tips and guidance.◄◄

    1.) Scum are forced to lie in order to win, this is a fundamental truth to mafia. Keeping up these lies is a very strenuous task, and a few behaviors exhibited by someone who is consistently lying become noticeable, such as taking a long time to post relatively short messages (they have to think to keep track of what lies they've already said), inconsistencies in reads/posts (when they fail to keep track of the aforementioned lies), and slipping (when the lie briefly "slips" out). Of course it isn't just about lies, it is easier to fuck up a game as scum than it is as town (most of the time), so scum tend to be a nervous wreck when it comes to their survival, but most experienced players have found a way to hide this feeling.
    One thing I catch scum doing quite often is giving out subpar reads, as in, they are low-effort, BS, or not very in-depth. Scum in most games already know the alignment of every other player in the game, so when presenting reads, they obviously can't be honest about who they think is what, and are instead forced to lie. Coming up with fake reasons as to why someone is scum is a very difficult task, almost impossible in some cases when someone is near universally town-read, or doesn't exhibit any scummy/anti-town behaviors. So instead of coming up with elaborate reasons as to why X is scum, they can use phrases like "vibe", "gut-reading", or "feeling", or come with illogical or completely fake reasons, gas-lighting the entire town.

    2.) On the contrary, I suck at townhunting, logically, town should be thinking and presenting in the same way that I do (assuming that I'm town), so I tend to have an affinity towards players that share the same ideas and reads.

    3.) I scum read players for all the reasons above, but they get extra points if they act in ways that are detrimental to the success of the town.

    4.) See above

    5.) EFFORT IS NOT ALIGNMENT INDICITIVE.
    I have to hammer this point into players heads constantly. Any player, town or scum can make a huge wallpost, or post frequently. I see players townread others for making a small essay but don't read into it that much beyond the fact that big post = good, which is fundamentally flawed. This works in tandem with a lack of posts, don't mistake a lack of posting with lurking though, a lurking player is reading the game, and thinking about all the posts, someone who's inactive may simply have real life matters to attend to.
    Another thing that isn't necessarily alignment indicative is self preservation, town know they're town 100% of the time, so they always know that their own death is detrimental to their goal of town winning (in most cases), scum think the same way. Town should only consider their own death if it were to give the greatest odds of winning, just like scum, and their willingness to bus.

    6.) I get townread for presenting my thought processes in a clear and honest manner, which is something I recommend all town do. Sometimes I get scum read for being focused on my survival to which I reply "fuck you"
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