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    ►►Re: am i the only one who actually remembers when..◄◄

    @Slaol please comment on this allegation topkek
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    ►►Re: S-FM 313: Mushroom Kingdom Madness II Signups (15p)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    You should sign either way OzyWho hasn't been here in quite a while, but may return just like Banana.
    My exam period is starting next week =(
    I shouldnt be signing LOL.
  3. Forum:Serious Discussion & Debate

    Thread:Führer Trump

    Thread Author:Marshmallow Marshall

    Post Author:Oberon

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    On climate change: theres a lot of fear mongering about how climate change is going to kill us all (in like ~20-30 years. I’m not actually joking). Kids these days are being told they will die in the next few decades. This kind of alarmism is disgusting and needs to stop because its not even correct. The estimated costs of adapting to the new temperature by 2100 are at around 4% of the global GDP. Not only will we survive, we’ll even thrive.

    Also since someone mentioned wildfires being caused by climate change? There is actually virtually no relationship between those two. The best predictor of wildfires is... take a guess... its the presence of human settlements! The denser and the more populated the area, the more wildfires there will be. Who woulda thunk :P

    Also, a point that always gets brought up in favour of humans causing (or being the main cause of) climate change is the temperature history of the last two hundred (200) years, the point usually being that it started increasing during the Industrial Revolution. And, like, really? That’s such a shit point in my estimation - does anyone ACTUALLY think we were burning enough coal and shit to WARM UP the planet with 1850s technology? I find the two completely unrelated. Remember that we’d just been through the Little Ice Age, its not a stretch to assume that a period of warmer temperatures is gonna follow that
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    Thread:Führer Trump

    Thread Author:Marshmallow Marshall

    Post Author:Oberon

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    ►►Re: Führer Trump◄◄

    Unironically though, Trump is no fascist
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    ►►Re: S-FM 313: Mushroom Kingdom Madness II Signups (15p)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    Only @OzyWho is missing here.

    If yiu get him to sign, i will sign as well =)
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    Thread:S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror

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    ►►Re: S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror◄◄

    You forgot DarkMagician
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    Thread:S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror

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    ►►Re: S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror◄◄

    FWIW, MM’s lynch was completely unexpected on my end. I did not see it coming at all.
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    Thread:Führer Trump

    Thread Author:Marshmallow Marshall

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    ►►Re: Führer Trump◄◄

    HEIL TRUMPF
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    Thread:S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror

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    Thread:S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror

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    ►►Re: S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror◄◄

    Flavour post incoming, but:
    The Demons have decided to concede and admit defeat.
    The Town wins!
    Important roles:
    Gyrlander - Exorcist
    MM - Prince of Hell
    Martin - Greater Demon
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    ►►Re: am i the only one who actually remembers when..◄◄

    lmao, how did he use his admin to do that
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    ►►Re: Low Testosterone Beta Males have Taken over the Site◄◄

    if you eat ass, you're gay bruh
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    Thread:S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror

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    ►►Re: S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror◄◄



    A hooded figure charged FrostByte and drove a wooden stake into his heart, killing the poor man instantly. The figure escaped into the woods, but not before making sure to immolate the corpse as to prevent its return from the dead...

    FrostByte was lynched, they were a Monk! They left the following message on a hastily-written parchment:
    Spoiler : Last Will :
    Blackmailed after day1 with the instructions "You must announce a message of which contains who you would blackmail and why".

    I did that and Mike's sub immediately latched onto it.

    Also the English in the instructions is a little odd. Check it against the English people are using in game thread.


    Day 4

    Player Role Status
    @MartinGG99 ?? Alive
    @Marshmallow Marshall Prince of Hell Lynched D1
    @Zedus Monk Lynched D2
    @Dark Magician ?? Alive
    @Gyrlander ?? Alive
    @Frinckles ?? Alive
    @FrostByte Monk Lynched D3
    @Auwt ?? Alive
    @Mike ?? Alive

    Day 4:
    [COUNTDOWN]01:23:20:54[/COUNTDOWN]
    Link to setup: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...ust-(7P-or-9P)
    Day 1 - EoD: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post897026
    Day 2 - EoD: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post897372
    Day 3 - EoD https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post897445
    Day 4 - EoD
    Day 5 - EoD


    Resetting votes...
    4 votes to hammer.
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    Thread:🅱️

    Thread Author:Plotato

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    ►►Re: 🅱️◄◄

    Liberals are trying to turn America into a SOCIALIST country. We cannot let that happen. Donate to President Trump to stand by the Republican Party AND DEFEND CAPITALISM
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    ►►Re: Voting systems and their balance worth◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
    Actually, anon bird slots is the scummiest vote system. And it's significantly more scum-sided than something towny like full public plurality with all votes in, and maybe even additional trial phase.
    Its not the scummiest IMO. Plurality or even worse, majority with secret ballots is significantly worse.
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    ►►Re: Voting systems and their balance worth◄◄

    Personally i think plurality is totally fine with 48h days; people generally dont lynch early anyways so the influence of plurality is barely felt in normal games.
    Its a different story for games with longer days: plurality forces people to use the entire day, even if they’ve more or less made up their minds and want to see flips. I find that annoying as a town player.
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    ►►Re: Voting systems and their balance worth◄◄

    I think a balance needs to be sort of struck tbh between the ability to lynch people prior to EoD and preventing an (accidental?/scum-driven) early lynch. I like the mod’s trial mechanic a lot, and I think it would fit quite well, although it requires the host to br online pretty much 24/7.
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    ►►Re: worst programming language you've ever seen/used◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    i actually loved writing the assembly design for my processor in uni =)
    Wait, by this here do you mean you actually wrote the instruction set yourself?
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    ►►Re: worst programming language you've ever seen/used◄◄

    NGL, i like the idea of writing assembly on a processor or some shit.
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    ►►Re: worst programming language you've ever seen/used◄◄

    Bro, I keep wanting to learn ASM but i whenever i do start i end up getting bored bc its so difficult
    I dont even know how to properly assemble a program, lol.
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    ►►Re: Voting systems and their balance worth◄◄

    Define significant?
    I do think voting plays a non-neglible role in balance.

    At the same time, it depends on the setup.
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    Thread:S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror

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    ►►Re: S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror◄◄

    I’m so sorry my guys, I should’ve started the day way earlier... I saw the day had ended about ~4 hours after the 24h deadline, but I was quite busy with am assigent and figured I would start rhe day as soon as I managed to submit my shit. Unfortunately, it took way longer than I expected it to and it ended up being rather late (around 2pm my time)
    Blame my dumb ass for not checking the thread in time.
    I’ll start the day at 2am (in 5:28h), just so the ‘hours’ the days and the nights end at stay the same.
    I’m really sorrt about this whole situation and hope I didnt make anyone too mad ^*
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    Thread:S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror

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    ►►Re: S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror◄◄

    You may now post.
    Sorry, I just flip off when people post before I post my EoD/SoD post lmfao
  24. Forum:Ongoing Forum Mafia Games

    Thread:S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror

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    ►►Re: S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror◄◄


    As the night dawned, the sky turned an ominous shade of red - it was clearly the doing of Satan and his agents.
    Indeed, Baal, formerly known as Marshmallow Marshall, raised from the depths of hell and tormented the monks with false visions of Zedus consorting with devils and imps and offering the Demons access to the Staff of Moses in exchange for eternal life. Led astray, the monks all ganged up on Zedus at his quarters and slew him where he stood... they realized their folly only too late, and found a hastily-written parchment on the late monk's desk:
    Spoiler : Last Will :
    Well bonobos strikes back again. With 100% reads
    Doesn't matter. Town will win anyways, even with such a bad towncore.

    Scum is one of
    1. FrostByte. 180 degree turn, no reason for town to do that. Post #612.
    2. Frinckles. I explained why a lot. Also he called that MM is usually get "scumreaded", but now townie.
    3. Varcron (ex Mike). Don't forget all this troll shit d1. Also:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    MM is so Naked town it is not funny. I am loving it I have 2 lock town.
    He is very possible MM's teammate, and voted another person, following Frinckles to save him.

    Lynch in this order. Or follow DM's trash readings again. Your choice.
    GL everyone.




    Zedus was lynched, they were a Monk!

    Player Role Status
    @MartinGG99 ?? Alive
    @Marshmallow Marshall Prince of Hell Lynched D1
    @Zedus Monk Lynched D2
    @Dark Magician ?? Alive
    @Gyrlander ?? Alive
    @Frinckles ?? Alive
    @FrostByte
    Spoiler : Role :
    Monk
    Died D3
    @Auwt ?? Alive
    @Mike ?? Alive

    Day 3:
    [COUNTDOWN]01:23:20:54[/COUNTDOWN]
    Link to setup: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...ust-(7P-or-9P)
    Day 1 - EoD: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post897026
    Day 2 - EoD: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post897372
    Day 3 - EoD https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post897445
    Day 4 - EoD
    Day 5 - EoD




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    4 votes to hammer.
  25. Forum:Ongoing Forum Mafia Games

    Thread:S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror

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    ►►Re: S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror◄◄

    DO NOT FUCKING POST
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    Thread:S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror

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    Zedus has been lynched! Standby for the end of day post.
    Their role was: Monk

    Lynch Count:
    FrostByte (2 [L-2]):
    Gyrlander, Zedus
    Zedus (2 [L-2]):
    MartinGG99, Dark Magician
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    Thread:S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror

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    ►►Re: S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror◄◄

    Just to let y'all know, I'll be gone for about 3 hours so if you hammer before, I won't be able to reveal the flip
  28. Forum:Horrendous Content

    Thread:uwu. OWO.

    Thread Author:theoneceko

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    ►►Re: uwu. OWO.◄◄

    This isn't horrendous content... it's horrific.
  29. Forum:Ongoing Forum Mafia Games

    Thread:S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror

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    ►►Re: S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror◄◄

    @Mike has subbed out of the game.
    Currently looking for a replacement.
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    Thread:S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror

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    ►►Re: S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror◄◄

    BTW, not receiving feedback means 'no feedback'.
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    Thread:S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror

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    ►►Re: S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror◄◄

    (The lynch is plurality + majority, meaning that Marshmallow Marshall was actually lynched yesterday)



    The monks accused Marshmallow Marshall of heresy, and tied him to a stake, preparing to burn him. As he lay strangled up on the wooden platform, one could see a large maniacal grin appearing on his face. His feet suddenly started changing into hooves, and as he lay there burning, he laughed most maniacally, damning the monks and cursing them most viciously. The Exorcist stepped forward and spoke a few words from the Bible, commanding the Demon to reveal his name. 'Baal', was the reply. His power broken, the demon fled his host and descended back into the depths of hell, taking his evil laughter with him.

    Marshmallow Marshall was lynched, they were a
    Prince of Hell!


    Player Role Status
    @MartinGG99 ?? Alive
    @Marshmallow Marshall Prince of Hell Lynched D1
    @Zedus
    Spoiler : Role :
    Monk
    Died D2
    @Dark Magician ?? Alive
    @Gyrlander ?? Alive
    @Frinckles ?? Alive
    @FrostByte
    Spoiler : Role :
    Monk
    Died D3
    @Auwt ?? Alive
    @Mike ?? Alive

    Day 2:
    [COUNTDOWN]01:23:31:54[/COUNTDOWN]
    Link to setup: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...ust-(7P-or-9P)
    Day 1 - EoD: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post897026
    Day 2 - EoD: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post897372
    Day 3 - EoD https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post897445
    Day 4 - EoD
    Day 5 - EoD




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    Thread:S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror

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    ►►Re: S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror◄◄

    The day has ended with marshmallow marshall being lynched! Standby for EoD post.

    Lynch count:

    Skip Day (2 [L-3]):
    Gyrlander, Zedus
    Gyrlander (2 [L-3]):
    Mike, Frinckles
    Dark Magician (1 [L-4]):
    Marshmallow Marshall
    Marshmallow Marshall (3 [L-2]):
    Dark Magician, Auwt, MartinGG99
  33. Forum:Serious Discussion & Debate

    Thread:Führer Trump

    Thread Author:Marshmallow Marshall

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    ►►Re: Führer Trump◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by oops_ur_dead View Post
    Source on this? The only sources I can find state that solar energy has a very low carbon footprint.

    I can fault the Democrats for historically being against nuclear energy, since I think nuclear power is great. This is a stance that they've changed in their 2020 platform, however, and now they fully endorse nuclear energy.



    The reason that carbon emissions have been going down in post-industrialized countries is because of the transition to less polluting methods of energy generation. Source: https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis...-14-since-2005

    If your argument is that we should stop trying to be so environmentally conscious because emissions are down, then... well....
    depends what you mean by less polluting methods. i do agree that the more efficient energy collection mechanisms played a (large) role in it, but probably not in the way you're saying.
    coal itself has gotten much, much cleaner in the last ~50 years or so, to give you an example.
    the transition to natural gas also helped considerably because natural gas does not pollute as much coal (even clean coal is 'dirtier' than natural gas)
    theres also the idea that energy usage has become more efficient simply because technologies become more efficient as time passes by. you wont generate as much sulphur in a chemical plant today as you would've in 1960.
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    Thread:S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror

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    ►►Re: S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Just to clarify, blackmails and exorcisms are picked during the day and "happen" immediatly on the next day, right? @Oberon

    Yup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedus View Post
    How does it works? If demons decide to blackmail someone before Excorcist act, he will be just blackmailed for the end of the day or until Exorcist will visit him?

    They both pick a target on Day X, and they perform their action on the following day. And the Exorcist comes first in the OoO.
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    Thread:S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror

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    ►►Re: S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror◄◄

    IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT, PLEASE READ

    There is no night phase. Any and all actions have to be submitted during the day.
    I say this because there are discrepancies in the setup as to whether or not there are any night phases.
    Carry on.
    @MartinGG99 @Marshmallow Marshall @Zedus @Dark Magician @Gyrlander @Frinckles @FrostByte @Auwt @Mike
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    Thread:S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror

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    1) Blackmailing is not mandatory.
    2) Nope, the blackmail ability can never be used on demons.
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    That is correct. @Mike
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    ►►Re: S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror◄◄

    5 votes to hammer.
    Day 1

    [COUNTDOWN]01:23:53:59[/COUNTDOWN]
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    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    tbh classes just seem like post-modernist PC nonsense. You should just write out everything you want to happen using if statements tbh. In fact, while and for loops are also a waste of time. You can just replace all your while and for loops with functions and if statements.
    bro fuck that, you're not a real programmer unless you send electrons to various parts of your CPU
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    ►►Re: worst programming language you've ever seen/used◄◄

    Java doesn't let you overload operators :P
    So if you have two vectors, you have to make a method .add(), and call it every time you want to add two vectors.
    Meanwhile in F# you can do:


    []
    type 't Vector when 't: equality and 't: comparison and t': ( static member (+) : ('t, 't) -> 't) =
    {
    x: 't
    y: 't
    }
    static member (+) (left: Vector, right: Vector) =
    {
    x = left.x + right.x
    y = left.y + right.y
    }
    and then you can just do:
    let c: Vector = a + b
    when a and b are vectors.


    You can also define your new operators this way. There is a downside to this, namely that it is possible to define operators that either are not intuitive in terms of what they do,
    or operators that look like regular ones but do something completely different. If you do it right, however, you can more or less make your own DSL in F# (without writing a compiler or shit for it):

    For instance, if you have a graph that you defined a type for yourself (this is actually not necessary, but more on that later), you can make an operator for linking two nodes, something like: <-> or <=>.
    Instead of calling a method or function for that.
  43. Forum:Ongoing Forum Mafia Games

    Thread:S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror

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    ►►S-FM 314: St Mildred's Horror◄◄

    S-FM St. Mildred's Horror

    Player Role Status
    @MartinGG99 ?? Alive
    @Marshmallow Marshall
    Spoiler : Role :
    Prince of Hell
    Died D1
    @Zedus
    Spoiler : Role :
    Monk
    Died D2
    @Dark Magician ?? Alive
    @Gyrlander ?? Alive
    @Frinckles ?? Alive
    @FrostByte
    Spoiler : Role :
    Monk
    Died D3
    @Auwt ?? Alive
    @Mike ?? Alive

    Game Start:
    [COUNTDOWN]00:09:25:54[/COUNTDOWN]
    Link to setup: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...ust-(7P-or-9P)
    Day 1 - EoD: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post897026
    Day 2 - EoD: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post897372
    Day 3 - EoD https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post897445
    Day 4 - EoD
    Day 5 - EoD



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    ►►Re: S-FM 314: St. Mildred's Horror (7/9p)◄◄

    Game is starting on Friday at 2AM CEST.
    [COUNTDOWN]00:10:12:59[/COUNTDOWN]
    Roles have been sent.
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    Thread:S-FM Faust (7P or 9P)

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    ►►Re: worst programming language you've ever seen/used◄◄

    F# uses '=' for equality and variable declaration, and '<-' for reassignment
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    ►►Re: S-FM 314: St. Mildred's Horror (7/9p)◄◄

    If the game doesn't start by Wednesday, I'll turn the 8th sign into a priority reserve and run the 7p setup.
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    Thread:Führer Trump

    Thread Author:Marshmallow Marshall

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    What you are touching on is "Milankovitch cycles" and yes. I am aware. This does represent cyclical change in temperature but does not invalidate global warming. It relates to the way the world moves around the sun and rotates in context to changes in Eccentricity, Axial Precession, and changes in Obliquity over around 100000, 25000 and 40000 year periods respectively.

    On the most basic level what we know about climate change comes from examination of ice cores. Within very old ice there is very old air bubbles. Those air bubbles can be examined to understand simple things like amounts of greenhouse gases and oxygen levels which can be used to extrapolate things like temperature. In a very basic way global temperature has been extremely strongly correlated with greenhouse gases. I say correlation instead of causation on the same margin you should consider the 'Theory of Gravity' a 'Theory.'
    Basically over the last 300 years Carbon Dioxide, Methane and Nitrous Oxide numbers have doubled and are higher than they have ever been found throughout history by our understanding of testing ice cores.

    There is also the theoretical connection between the magnetosphere and ice ages but thats a can of worms better not touched on although I think there is something to it.

    In addition the introduction of Chlorofluorocarbons has eliminated massive amounts of ozone (with 1 molecule of Chlorofluorocarbons eliminating around 10,000 ozone molecules.) There is also significant impact of the elimination of rain forests to make room for cattle farming. This translates to less plants that convert Carbon Dioxide into oxygen with more mammals who convert oxygen into Carbon Dioxide while producing substantial amounts of Methane.

    The part most people do not understand is that these temperature changes are gradual because the ocean is big and acts as a thermal dampener. So if right now we were able to stop any increase in greenhouse gasses, stop chlorofluorocarbons influence on ozone, and stop the reduction of plants global temperature would still rise for around 45 years.

    I am not sure where you got the reduction in carbon emissions figure but I feel like even if thats true its probably just exported industry. America loves to pretend to be 'green' by 'recycling plastics' even when that just translates to shipping our plastics to a third world country who then throws it in the ocean, burns it or buries it. America loves to stick up their nose at China citing how much more pollution China makes but in ratio to citizens China is over twice as efficient as America and America is literally the worst in the world.

    I kinda think of global warming like the national debt. Either political party cares about one but pretends the other does not matter and figures their kids will pay for it but both are totally a significant issue.
    I wasn't claiming that global warming wasn't real; my point is more that it seems to be slowing down: I was reading a book on climate change the month before and one of the things discussed there was the temperature increase. IIRC, one report made by some relatively important committee (don't remember who it was and unfortunately i don't have access to the book right now), showed the temperature increase (by 2100) was lower than the one previously forecast several years back, and they stated that even with an increase as high as the previous estimate, the total cost of adapting to the new global temperature was around 4% in terms of global GDP. not a very serious threat for the coming century at all.
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    also, I love the point @Helz made about how many of the people who argue for e.g. the homeless having homes don't actually live in accordance with that idea. thats exactly one of the things i like about worker co-ops and the like - its not an experiment that everyone has to partake in, and if you fuck something up, it's on YOU. people should take more responsibility themselves before pushing for government enforcement of welfare and the like. thats what i like about co-ops: it emphasizes personal responsibility.
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