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[QUOTE=WrathCyber;967229]Not a huge bug but the visual rendering overloads my laptop's fans and it turns it into an [B]actual [/B] racecar.[/QUOTE]

It runs at like 15 frames per second and is missing two frames that I made for it. Sweaty

Noted, thanks.

Originally Posted by WrathCyber

Not a huge bug but the visual rendering overloads my laptop's fans and it turns it into an actual racecar.

It runs at like 15 frames per second and is missing two frames that I made for it.

Noted, thanks.

is this a bug report

is this a bug report

what

what

[QUOTE=OzyWho;967185]You didn't read my post have you :(
I mentioned 4 greeks, though only 1 directly. >.<[/QUOTE]

You're right. I just ctrl+f Socrates Plato Aristotle and was like wut, no results? Lol

Originally Posted by OzyWho

You didn't read my post have you
I mentioned 4 greeks, though only 1 directly. >.<

You're right. I just ctrl+f Socrates Plato Aristotle and was like wut, no results? Lol

No Descartes mention in a thinking thinker think think thread? Also no greeks allowed?
Ceko might be on to something with Ray Bradcekoberry.

No Descartes mention in a thinking thinker think think thread? Also no greeks allowed?
Ceko might be on to something with Ray Bradcekoberry.

[QUOTE=Eragonball;967040]You don't see the threat because you look at NKs without the whole game itself.
As I state in my first post, if NK die, the game lose its most important comeback mechanic and get slower.

Poisonner and electromaniac don't need NI because they're hard, they need it because the game need them.
It's not even a big deal, most of the time they'll get lynched the following day. UNLESS mafia/town is loosing and know they need them to kill, which is why they need NI.

Reason why cult save aren't popular is not because cult is poorly designed (your BS of cult leaders tho), it's because most of the time they're composed of a single killer, which makes the game slow and not very interesting : the game need two killers.

It would be better for the game if they wouldn't kill NI and be NI if you rly wish so.
They need NI.[/QUOTE]

if a player clicks the button next to your name and they are supposed to make you die, I think you should.

Originally Posted by Eragonball

You don't see the threat because you look at NKs without the whole game itself.
As I state in my first post, if NK die, the game lose its most important comeback mechanic and get slower.

Poisonner and electromaniac don't need NI because they're hard, they need it because the game need them.
It's not even a big deal, most of the time they'll get lynched the following day. UNLESS mafia/town is loosing and know they need them to kill, which is why they need NI.

Reason why cult save aren't popular is not because cult is poorly designed (your BS of cult leaders tho), it's because most of the time they're composed of a single killer, which makes the game slow and not very interesting : the game need two killers.

It would be better for the game if they wouldn't kill NI and be NI if you rly wish so.
They need NI.

if a player clicks the button next to your name and they are supposed to make you die, I think you should.

[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;967035][MENTION=34329]Frinckles[/MENTION]

What is the argument for not giving these roles NI[/QUOTE]

because i dont see a plausible threat that would require them to have immunity whilst still being able to go through any immunity

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

@Frinckles

What is the argument for not giving these roles NI

because i dont see a plausible threat that would require them to have immunity whilst still being able to go through any immunity

actually love miz

actually love miz

i hate mizery like you cant imagine.

i hate mizery like you cant imagine.

I'll take this under consideration.

I'll take this under consideration.

[QUOTE=aamirus;967019]this can be disabled and we actually did that before but I think people missed it and it has one big advantage - if you know someone else is online it encourages you to stay online too
I think the agreed upon solution was to have the default for new members be that they are invisible (so it says a member is reading the chat but not their name)

if the modern consensus is to just remove it then we can do that[/QUOTE]

Don't do that.

Originally Posted by aamirus

this can be disabled and we actually did that before but I think people missed it and it has one big advantage - if you know someone else is online it encourages you to stay online too
I think the agreed upon solution was to have the default for new members be that they are invisible (so it says a member is reading the chat but not their name)

if the modern consensus is to just remove it then we can do that

Don't do that.

[QUOTE=OzyWho;966986]I'm up for this being the deciding factor.[/QUOTE]

basado

Originally Posted by OzyWho

I'm up for this being the deciding factor.

basado

[QUOTE=deathworlds;966982] [U]distance ourselves from the mod[/U] and how it works, or do we [U]double down on our ties with the sc2mafia mod[/U][/QUOTE]

Day-night cycle in the mod is as close to genuine mafia real as you can get. If 24/7 is the norm elsewhere, we're (FM) purists in regards to the game.

You're right though, does this limit hosts and or roles that generally interfere with 48d/24n mechanics? Would party host just throw a party and scum can talk in it anyway in addition to their normal 24/7? Case-by-case basis I assume but then isn't that the status-quo?

As far as mod players entering FM go, we've had plenty of new faces lately, some good, some bad -- but ill encouraging them to try out FM. Lag has done a spectacular job of bringing in people from other sites so I'm curious what they're thinking.

Originally Posted by deathworlds

distance ourselves from the mod and how it works, or do we double down on our ties with the sc2mafia mod

Day-night cycle in the mod is as close to genuine mafia real as you can get. If 24/7 is the norm elsewhere, we're (FM) purists in regards to the game.

You're right though, does this limit hosts and or roles that generally interfere with 48d/24n mechanics? Would party host just throw a party and scum can talk in it anyway in addition to their normal 24/7? Case-by-case basis I assume but then isn't that the status-quo?

As far as mod players entering FM go, we've had plenty of new faces lately, some good, some bad -- but ill encouraging them to try out FM. Lag has done a spectacular job of bringing in people from other sites so I'm curious what they're thinking.

1. [B]There are currently X users browsing this thread[/B] can be useful to help angle-shoot if 24/7 wolf chat exists.
2. It makes coaching less skillful scum players easier on the fly and increasing the burden town has to deal with.
3. This website has a strong scum metagame here already (as far as I know), I'm not sure what the change stands to gain.
4. End of day pressure from wolves would become easier to apply in certain situations; Just ping that dumb dumb player on the discord channel a few times and boom, he logs in to vote. That's inherently an advantage for scum because I literally get notifications to my phone if I'm in the bathroom.


I like 24/7 scum chat in some setups and feel that sometimes it can be necessary, particularly with in-thread kills. I think it is unnecessary in anything closely resembling mountainous. Looking forward to why you think it's a preferable alternative.

1. There are currently X users browsing this thread can be useful to help angle-shoot if 24/7 wolf chat exists.
2. It makes coaching less skillful scum players easier on the fly and increasing the burden town has to deal with.
3. This website has a strong scum metagame here already (as far as I know), I'm not sure what the change stands to gain.
4. End of day pressure from wolves would become easier to apply in certain situations; Just ping that dumb dumb player on the discord channel a few times and boom, he logs in to vote. That's inherently an advantage for scum because I literally get notifications to my phone if I'm in the bathroom.


I like 24/7 scum chat in some setups and feel that sometimes it can be necessary, particularly with in-thread kills. I think it is unnecessary in anything closely resembling mountainous. Looking forward to why you think it's a preferable alternative.

No intention to give night immunity to either; Both roles will be buffed next patch.

No intention to give night immunity to either; Both roles will be buffed next patch.

[QUOTE=Euna;966001]Account Name: Anhionring
Account ID: 1-S2-1-8107290
Your Server: North America
Approximate Points: 38680


Image of my points: [url]https://gyazo.com/d4cee6ebb6809c5d2cc5de1e2a6663ec[/url]

Hello? Why do I get this error?: [url]https://gyazo.com/9bb8dabcdcf5f50ef93dc2ca9fb5eda2[/url]
AND WHAT IS THIS?: [url]https://gyazo.com/b1dd20131d71df791f8ebdd6c5336739[/url]

"Anhionring is a known hacker...NO STATS WILL BE SAVED"...WHAT? I honestly thought Frinckles was trolling me because, on Day 1, he said "I'll show you a real bug tonight" after I said something like "developers should fix the hosting bugs and stop gaslighting players" . For some context, when I was trying to host, it didn't let me select my save and bugged out by rapidly switching between a bunch of saves (this is not the first time it happened to me), and Frinckles memed about me having a macro, when I had NOTHING. I SWEAR ON MY DOG.


I'm playing on a drive with previous sc2 installations, not sure if that messes with anything. I never had this issue before.

I WANT MY COLORED NAME, -PREFER, AND -BLACKLIST BACK..THAT'S LIKE 80% OF THE GAME.[/QUOTE]

Nothing was done on my part to manipulate your bank as far as I know but we've had a similar issue with another player recently.

Do you play on KR servers at all by chance and do any of your saves contain stump/scumbag?

Originally Posted by Euna

Account Name: Anhionring
Account ID: 1-S2-1-8107290
Your Server: North America
Approximate Points: 38680


Image of my points: https://gyazo.com/d4cee6ebb6809c5d2cc5de1e2a6663ec

Hello? Why do I get this error?: https://gyazo.com/9bb8dabcdcf5f50ef93dc2ca9fb5eda2
AND WHAT IS THIS?: https://gyazo.com/b1dd20131d71df791f8ebdd6c5336739

"Anhionring is a known hacker...NO STATS WILL BE SAVED"...WHAT? I honestly thought Frinckles was trolling me because, on Day 1, he said "I'll show you a real bug tonight" after I said something like "developers should fix the hosting bugs and stop gaslighting players" . For some context, when I was trying to host, it didn't let me select my save and bugged out by rapidly switching between a bunch of saves (this is not the first time it happened to me), and Frinckles memed about me having a macro, when I had NOTHING. I SWEAR ON MY DOG.


I'm playing on a drive with previous sc2 installations, not sure if that messes with anything. I never had this issue before.

I WANT MY COLORED NAME, -PREFER, AND -BLACKLIST BACK..THAT'S LIKE 80% OF THE GAME.

Nothing was done on my part to manipulate your bank as far as I know but we've had a similar issue with another player recently.

Do you play on KR servers at all by chance and do any of your saves contain stump/scumbag?

[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;965998]Is it supposed to? It’s not like the EM is taking the killing action. It’s just setting up people to kill each other.[/QUOTE]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

Is it supposed to? It’s not like the EM is taking the killing action. It’s just setting up people to kill each other.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[QUOTE=ChannelMiner;965787]Street racers should have a crime so that invests can prove them.

So you're telling me that street racers have no crimes?

So they "race" without speeding? Yeah right.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]28452[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]

This was originally planned but scrapped. In that he would appear as Mafia or suspicious or something as a trade off for being untargetable some nights.

Originally Posted by ChannelMiner

Street racers should have a crime so that invests can prove them.

So you're telling me that street racers have no crimes?

So they "race" without speeding? Yeah right.

This was originally planned but scrapped. In that he would appear as Mafia or suspicious or something as a trade off for being untargetable some nights.

[QUOTE=ChannelMiner;965190]The Discord link in the loading screen is expired lol.[/QUOTE]

[SIZE=5]POST A REPLAY[/SIZE]

Originally Posted by ChannelMiner

The Discord link in the loading screen is expired lol.

POST A REPLAY

[QUOTE=ChannelMiner;965425]What does it mean when as actress u attempt to copy someone but nothing happens?

If actress learns role is turned on and they attempt to copy someone, sometimes you just don't?

Is this a bug?[/QUOTE]

Street Racer. Check your replay on who you targeted.

Originally Posted by ChannelMiner

What does it mean when as actress u attempt to copy someone but nothing happens?

If actress learns role is turned on and they attempt to copy someone, sometimes you just don't?

Is this a bug?

Street Racer. Check your replay on who you targeted.

[Vote]stealthbomber16[/vote]

Leave lazy wills

-vote stealthbomber16

Leave lazy wills

[Vote)stealthbomber16[/vote]

[Vote)stealthbomber16[/vote]

Don't be so dramatic. Who would vote ceko again in the last minute of eod?

Don't be so dramatic. Who would vote ceko again in the last minute of eod?

TOWN TAKEOVER

TOWN TAKEOVER

TOWN TAKEOVER

TOWN TAKEOVER

TOWN TAKEOVER

TOWN TAKEOVER

[QUOTE=BananaCucho;964980]*Points at butterfly*

Is this a towncore?[/QUOTE]

sure let's go. me you miz lag should work. i dont smell any treachery from you 3 yet

Originally Posted by BananaCucho

*Points at butterfly*

Is this a towncore?

sure let's go. me you miz lag should work. i dont smell any treachery from you 3 yet

[QUOTE=Mizery;964968]someone tell me why wrath is town[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BananaCucho;964973]Yeah I don't really get the town reads, wrath just kinda seems to be "there"[/QUOTE]

well i liked early d1 from them but maybe they got too comfortable not being scumread so the mask is slipping

Originally Posted by Mizery

someone tell me why wrath is town

Originally Posted by BananaCucho

Yeah I don't really get the town reads, wrath just kinda seems to be "there"

well i liked early d1 from them but maybe they got too comfortable not being scumread so the mask is slipping

[QUOTE=WrathCyber;964967]I dedicate this lynch to the blood God. Blood for the blood god![/QUOTE]

messenger of god slip

Originally Posted by WrathCyber

I dedicate this lynch to the blood God. Blood for the blood god!

messenger of god slip

[QUOTE=PQRnHack;964946]What is worrisome to me is that SB16 is my top lynch candidate but he is not even around. However, ceko over here (a nice 2nd, which wont matter if team to SB16) is fighting for his life.[/QUOTE]

I like actively make it my job to push my scumreads when I have a feeling they're online because I hate this argument so much.

Brad & SB16 have been around when I push them. Lag and SB16 have gone back and forth for dozens of posts.

Originally Posted by PQRnHack

What is worrisome to me is that SB16 is my top lynch candidate but he is not even around. However, ceko over here (a nice 2nd, which wont matter if team to SB16) is fighting for his life.

I like actively make it my job to push my scumreads when I have a feeling they're online because I hate this argument so much.

Brad & SB16 have been around when I push them. Lag and SB16 have gone back and forth for dozens of posts.

[QUOTE]paying more than $100 to bite a cow[/QUOTE]

lmfao

paying more than $100 to bite a cow

lmfao

[QUOTE=PQRnHack;964929](non-game-related) learn to cook on your own, you lazy fuck.[/QUOTE]

you make your own ice cream?

Originally Posted by PQRnHack

(non-game-related) learn to cook on your own, you lazy fuck.

you make your own ice cream?

[QUOTE=BradLand;964922]Look here's what I got:

[B][U]Town:[/U][/B]
Mizery (Locktown)
Pqrn
Wrath

Everyone else I have a pile of "meh" because either I didn't get a clear read on them or I just don't care.

I'd be inclined to vote Oliverz or Ceko out.
Or listen to the Magic Conch and sheep that read.[/QUOTE]

what about sb16

Originally Posted by BradLand

Look here's what I got:

Town:
Mizery (Locktown)
Pqrn
Wrath

Everyone else I have a pile of "meh" because either I didn't get a clear read on them or I just don't care.

I'd be inclined to vote Oliverz or Ceko out.
Or listen to the Magic Conch and sheep that read.

what about sb16

[QUOTE=WrathCyber;964908][Vote]Bradland[/vote]

Seeing frinckles already voted him, might as well[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WrathCyber;964914]I'm not even sure Frinckles and Mizery could be town at this point, I take back my vote

[Vote]Stealthbomber16[/vote][/QUOTE]

the difference 5 minutes makes

Originally Posted by WrathCyber

-vote Bradland

Seeing frinckles already voted him, might as well

Originally Posted by WrathCyber

I'm not even sure Frinckles and Mizery could be town at this point, I take back my vote

-vote Stealthbomber16

the difference 5 minutes makes

[QUOTE=WrathCyber;964863]if scum team consists of Brad, Oliver, and sb16 ill be severely disappointed[/QUOTE]

why?

Originally Posted by WrathCyber

if scum team consists of Brad, Oliver, and sb16 ill be severely disappointed

why?

[QUOTE=BradLand;964795]Probably because
1. I've played a shit ton of FoL games, where mafia wins about 90% of the games there, I'm pretty sure I've only won 1 town game in total there, and my confidence on my reads is kinda shot from it.
2. Not in a great spot mentally.
3. It's my first game on a new site and it takes me a while to get used to the UI.[/QUOTE]

This isn't your first game on this site though. And you have 70 posts this game, only a few less than me.

Mizery is right that you are normally more solvey. In your first game here (deck mafia) you were actually going pretty ham with stuff like this and while it wasn't always correct, you had conviction:

[url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/49637-S-FM-338-Deck-Mafia-008?p=956025&viewfull=1#post956025[/url]
[url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/49637-S-FM-338-Deck-Mafia-008?p=957167&viewfull=1#post957167[/url]
[url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/49637-S-FM-338-Deck-Mafia-008?p=956403&viewfull=1#post956403[/url]

At the very least, you could say you were more involved and wanted to push for a town win.

Then you look at your ISO from this game. I'm not seeing read lists or analysis or connecting things from A to B etc. Which is cool n all, but you also aren't really giving anyone in this game a chance to find you as town. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you've actually had a reason for any of the (3?) votes you've placed this game. Then you get instantly defensive when you see a vote get placed on you. You just kind of look like a lost wolf tbh.

Even if you weren't, I don't think my reads are that shit. I can see when a player sounds genuine, and when I do they go higher on the list. I don't usually (if ever) more players lower outright. This should give you a some indication as to why you're the second lowest person on my list. If there is some reason I should be townreading you, let me know.

But until then, the world I live in has 2/3 illumooti marked. There's nothing that indicates you and SB16 couldn't be on a team.

Originally Posted by BradLand

Probably because
1. I've played a shit ton of FoL games, where mafia wins about 90% of the games there, I'm pretty sure I've only won 1 town game in total there, and my confidence on my reads is kinda shot from it.
2. Not in a great spot mentally.
3. It's my first game on a new site and it takes me a while to get used to the UI.

This isn't your first game on this site though. And you have 70 posts this game, only a few less than me.

Mizery is right that you are normally more solvey. In your first game here (deck mafia) you were actually going pretty ham with stuff like this and while it wasn't always correct, you had conviction:

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post956025
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post957167
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post956403

At the very least, you could say you were more involved and wanted to push for a town win.

Then you look at your ISO from this game. I'm not seeing read lists or analysis or connecting things from A to B etc. Which is cool n all, but you also aren't really giving anyone in this game a chance to find you as town. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you've actually had a reason for any of the (3?) votes you've placed this game. Then you get instantly defensive when you see a vote get placed on you. You just kind of look like a lost wolf tbh.

Even if you weren't, I don't think my reads are that shit. I can see when a player sounds genuine, and when I do they go higher on the list. I don't usually (if ever) more players lower outright. This should give you a some indication as to why you're the second lowest person on my list. If there is some reason I should be townreading you, let me know.

But until then, the world I live in has 2/3 illumooti marked. There's nothing that indicates you and SB16 couldn't be on a team.

only other things i guess id throw out there is that aggressive MM is fun to watch

only other things i guess id throw out there is that aggressive MM is fun to watch

i might say ceko feels genuine too if i didn't think they could just be taking a slower approach to the game for whatever reason.

i might say ceko feels genuine too if i didn't think they could just be taking a slower approach to the game for whatever reason.

[QUOTE=oliverz144;964841]7 actives here but noone chatting?
are yall scum?
2 ghosts, 2 guests? +mm and m?[/QUOTE]

im here, just thinking about who the third illuminooti is.

i think it's s16+brad but the third could be Dum for all I know. i guess that will resolve itself anyway so im not worried about it.

if either of sb16+brad dont flip illuminooti, ill probably turn my reads list on it's head.

the mizery/banana block scares me a little bit.

pqr is pinging me as 3P because of the way theyre playing.

the two players that feel the most genuine are auwt/wrath, though i disagree with wrath's takes most of the time.

this doesn't feel like scum!lag either.

Originally Posted by oliverz144

7 actives here but noone chatting?
are yall scum?
2 ghosts, 2 guests? +mm and m?

im here, just thinking about who the third illuminooti is.

i think it's s16+brad but the third could be Dum for all I know. i guess that will resolve itself anyway so im not worried about it.

if either of sb16+brad dont flip illuminooti, ill probably turn my reads list on it's head.

the mizery/banana block scares me a little bit.

pqr is pinging me as 3P because of the way theyre playing.

the two players that feel the most genuine are auwt/wrath, though i disagree with wrath's takes most of the time.

this doesn't feel like scum!lag either.

[QUOTE=Mizery;964820]if i say yes will you townread me[/QUOTE]

lmao

Originally Posted by Mizery

if i say yes will you townread me

lmao

[QUOTE=theoneceko;964816]What?[/QUOTE]

Was talking to Miz.

Originally Posted by theoneceko

What?

Was talking to Miz.

This line of questioning is less accusatory and more of you trying to show me you're town isn't it?

This line of questioning is less accusatory and more of you trying to show me you're town isn't it?

[QUOTE=Mizery;964796]why did my thoughts on mm kill thread[/QUOTE]

ive been re-reading the end of deck mafia because im trying to remember how certain people play
[url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/49637-S-FM-338-Deck-Mafia-008[/url]

Originally Posted by Mizery

why did my thoughts on mm kill thread

ive been re-reading the end of deck mafia because im trying to remember how certain people play
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...Deck-Mafia-008

i didnt expect my top three townreads to be auwt/lag/wrath this game though. that's kind of weird.

i didnt expect my top three townreads to be auwt/lag/wrath this game though. that's kind of weird.

i will say i genuinely townread auwt.

i will say i genuinely townread auwt.

[QUOTE=Mizery;964784]Brad/mm probably not partnered and mm/stealth probably not partnered[/QUOTE]

i just throw MM into every scumworld because my ability to read him is garbage.

and at the very least, he's usually the opposite of whatever I read him as. I think he's town this game. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Originally Posted by Mizery

Brad/mm probably not partnered and mm/stealth probably not partnered

i just throw MM into every scumworld because my ability to read him is garbage.

and at the very least, he's usually the opposite of whatever I read him as. I think he's town this game. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[QUOTE=BananaCucho;964773]Pretty good. Bit burned out from this bug I'm working on but I really should try to wrap it up today[/QUOTE]

you got the sniffles or your program got the sniffles

Originally Posted by BananaCucho

Pretty good. Bit burned out from this bug I'm working on but I really should try to wrap it up today

you got the sniffles or your program got the sniffles

[QUOTE=WrathCyber;964766]I don't like it either, but it's either that or scum!Frinckles and scum!Lag in the same team.[/QUOTE]

as amazing as it would be to play wolf with lag, im still not sure how you pieced that one together. rather, why oliver has to be on that specific scum team and if not, me and lag are scum.

but who knows, you have your own reads that you've been pretty vocal about. if you were to ask me who i think would fit alongside sb16+brad, id probably say MM over oliver.

Originally Posted by WrathCyber

I don't like it either, but it's either that or scum!Frinckles and scum!Lag in the same team.

as amazing as it would be to play wolf with lag, im still not sure how you pieced that one together. rather, why oliver has to be on that specific scum team and if not, me and lag are scum.

but who knows, you have your own reads that you've been pretty vocal about. if you were to ask me who i think would fit alongside sb16+brad, id probably say MM over oliver.

[QUOTE=BananaCucho;964761]Pringles wassup. This is the first time we're in thread together this game I think[/QUOTE]

hay banana. how's it goin

Originally Posted by BananaCucho

Pringles wassup. This is the first time we're in thread together this game I think

hay banana. how's it goin

[QUOTE=WrathCyber;964757]I still feel like Bradland could be pocketing Mizery by claiming to know his playstyle. But because Mizery is a wildcard, he could be non conditionally accepting Bradland's offer of pocketing. Also, notice how there is barely any interaction between Bradland with oliverz and sb16. Pretty unusual for me considering they're the two most prevalent sources for scum.[/QUOTE]

Idk about fitting Oliver into that scumteam yet but bradland-sb16 sounds reasonable to me.

Originally Posted by WrathCyber

I still feel like Bradland could be pocketing Mizery by claiming to know his playstyle. But because Mizery is a wildcard, he could be non conditionally accepting Bradland's offer of pocketing. Also, notice how there is barely any interaction between Bradland with oliverz and sb16. Pretty unusual for me considering they're the two most prevalent sources for scum.

Idk about fitting Oliver into that scumteam yet but bradland-sb16 sounds reasonable to me.

[vote]bradland[/vote]

-vote bradland

[QUOTE=theoneceko;964711]Frinckles, what are your thoughts on Oliver? He just posted.[/QUOTE]

i dont think oliver has done anything that pings me as innately scummy. the interactions between oliver & lag are a little weird i guess.

if anything, sure oliver is kind of defensive just very specifically at lag.

[QUOTE=theoneceko;964713]I am not happy with how Frinckles just slightly discredited PQ. PQ definitely has his strengths, and I remember that Frinckles made me doubt my effectiveness as a town player during another game when he was in the Mafia.[/QUOTE]

discredited might not be the word you're looking for. all i did was agree with you that im personally not convinced pqr is town because of how random he's playing (like him soul-reading me town) but maybe thats just D1 shenanigans. his teambuilding is smart, idk how he threw you into that though.

Originally Posted by theoneceko

Frinckles, what are your thoughts on Oliver? He just posted.

i dont think oliver has done anything that pings me as innately scummy. the interactions between oliver & lag are a little weird i guess.

if anything, sure oliver is kind of defensive just very specifically at lag.

Originally Posted by theoneceko

I am not happy with how Frinckles just slightly discredited PQ. PQ definitely has his strengths, and I remember that Frinckles made me doubt my effectiveness as a town player during another game when he was in the Mafia.

discredited might not be the word you're looking for. all i did was agree with you that im personally not convinced pqr is town because of how random he's playing (like him soul-reading me town) but maybe thats just D1 shenanigans. his teambuilding is smart, idk how he threw you into that though.