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  1. Sticky: ►►Re: Serious Discussion & Debate Rules◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocist View Post
    Wait...why is this back... Apo's scared..
    The real question would be: "why was this deleted in the first place?" ;)
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    ►►Re: S-FM Summer 2020◄◄

    GG. I was surprised by some of you guys' styles and skills. Special props to @MartinGG99 and @bakermir . And good job to others too of course ^^ this game was very rich and of a pretty good level, even per non-newbie game standards.
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    ►►Re: When did masks become political?◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by oops_ur_dead View Post
    Masks were largely politicized because of Trump's refusal to wear one, and how he made fun of others (like Biden) for wearing one.

    However, Trump doesn't, and in fact, can't drive. Therefore he can't have a stance on texting and driving, hence it doesn't become politicized by his cultists.
    He... he made fun of people for wearing a mask?
  4. Sticky: ►►Re: Serious Discussion & Debate Rules◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    You spelt Toxic as Serious
    Ah right, my bad.
  5. Sticky: ►►Serious Discussion & Debate Rules◄◄

    You may post your serious threads here if you want them to remain serious and nice. Some additional rules apply here:

    - No excessive trolling. Having fun is obviously allowed, but please keep it on topic.

    - No thread derailing; severe and intentional thread derailing will be punished.

    - No flaming. This rule isn't specific to this forum, but it's important enough to be reminder-worthy here.

    - Site rules apply.


    Failure to abide to those rules may result in infractions.
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    ►►Re: Can ordinary men turn into killers?◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    Kumiho.

    Also Godwin's law has gotten to ridiculous levels in this forum lately.
    The current geopolitical situation has gotten ridiculously closer to nazism/racism/totalitarianism than it should have, though...

    oh noes i just contributed to God wins law
  7. Forum:Circlejerk

    Thread:Give me my colors.

    Thread Author:Mesk514

    Post Author:Marshmallow Marshall

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    ►►Re: Give me my colors.◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Psh color is overrated
    Makes Banana's name color invisible

    ~~

    Welcome back, HEATHEN.
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    ►►Re: Right-wing liberalism vs Conservvatism◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Yes it does make you a satanist, and therefore you should have no problem changing the motto to "In God we trust, and Satan too"


    I think I'll pass xD

    There are probably too many Christians in the US to make that change. It's not a truly religion-neutral country, like you said yourself. And Utah would launch a civil war if that happened lol.
  9. Forum:Forum Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Role : Slave Master

    Thread Author:Gzz

    Post Author:Marshmallow Marshall

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    ►►Re: Role : Slave Master◄◄

    Necro

    Pretty good role though, would be interesting to play a game that revolves around it!
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    ►►Re: When did masks become political?◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Right but the question is why isn't it a political issue? Like if you tell someone "you shouldn't text and drive" or "wear your seat belt", they aren't going to respond with "muh freedom". At least that hasn't been my experience.

    They recognize that if they get caught doing it they are going to get ticketed for it. Yet no protests or freaking out about it.
    Because the general people is just dumb. Stupid. There's no other explaination lol. The issue is that they can still spread the disease, so people are a bit more insisting than when it comes to seat belts lol, so half-smart people wanting to gain the support of dumb people responding "muh freedom" go out and scream "OUR FREEDOM!!!!".
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    ►►Re: Right-wing liberalism vs Conservvatism◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon View Post
    Its weird that you’d be for polygamous marriages, even from a utilitarian perspective it’s PLAIN wrong, it leads to social unrest because some men don’t get any women.
    Objection, Your Honor. I don't think the defendant meant "polygamy" under the meaning of "a system under which a man can have multiple wives, but a women cannot have multiple husbands"; the point of Mr. Ganelon is therefore irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon View Post
    No, the point is for people to turn their firstborn child into the literal incarnation of Satan and conquer the World through their awesome power.
    Just make sure your firstborn gets all the inheritance or they may try to assassinate their siblings.
    Rofl claim Alexander the Great's legacy too
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    I will refer you to these posts, buried in the "cancerous" portion of the thread.

    "In god we trust" is in no way a moral statement, and should not be the motto of a country that prides itself in being a diverse melting pot of ideas.
    Isn't that unrelated to my post, though? Satanists are serving a power they believe to be evil (Satan is evil incarnate by definition), while other religions serve a power they believe to be good. In other words, they don't even try to be moral lol: that is the whole point. Hence why I have a hard time understanding their "code of conduct" @Helz quoted, which just seems to be common sense and pro-science without references to religion. I follow that code of conduct, does that make me a satanist xD?
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    ►►Re: Right-wing liberalism vs Conservvatism◄◄

    Satanists are encouraging moral behavior? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the whole point of satanism to promote admittedly pure evil (whether that exists or not) and literally praise it?
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    [WIP] ►►Re: The Eternal Conflict (13P)◄◄

    Some updates were made. Scum have a permanent chat following Secondpassing's feedback.

    I fear this game has too many kills, and wonder which ones to keep.
    Looking for interactions between TPRs and the remaining demon slots. Perhaps a vanilla cop or a parity cop would be nice, too.

    Suggestions or thoughts are still welcome, I didn't forget about this setup's existence, just taking a bit of a break at the moment.
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    ►►Re: Can ordinary men turn into killers?◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvanas View Post
    Society and law turn killers into "ordinary men". People are opportunistic and self-serving, but they're also gregarious and will compromise for acceptance and to avoid exclusion. Psychopaths have a harder time suppressing their urges and less motivation to do so and they have more tolerance to risk, so their true nature shows. "Not killing and not raping" isn't the default mode for people, we made it that way.
    Uhh, okay... STAY AWAY FROM ME OR I CALL POLICE!!!!

    You really think that killing humans is the default for humans? Do you have any sources to back that up? It's not impossible, but I find it rather unlikely. For example, how would you explain soldiers suffering from post-traumatic syndromes because they killed people even though they knew it was going to happen because it's part of their job? Also, as a child, I would never have thought of murder as even a possibility that would exist (but perhaps that's just me, in which case I will be scared out of my mind lol).

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    Have you met my wife? She would tear your liver out.
    Lmao
    Statistically, though, there are much more male murderers than female ones.

    https://healthresearchfunding.org/5-...rs-statistics/
  16. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Your favourite flags

    Thread Author:Ganelon

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    ►►Re: Your favourite flags◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    Sicily were on some good shit when they made theirs

    Hey, that's a ripoff of the Man flag!
  17. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:What's up?

    Thread Author:Muso

    Post Author:Marshmallow Marshall

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    ►►Re: What's up?◄◄

    I thought you were a noob. And then I saw your medal.

    GLORY TO MUSO THE ANCIENT


    Also, to answer your question, > is not up, it's right, and right was wrong.
  18. ►►Re: twitch user suing the platform over suggestive content put out by women◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    Woah woah woah hold up you can get necrosis from masturbating too much??? What kind of sick world is this
    (since the fleshlight is electrical and also vibrates)

    I don't know, this looks similar to the post in your signature in a way lol
  19. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Your favourite flags

    Thread Author:Ganelon

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    ►►Re: Your favourite flags◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    I didn't realize you were a terrorist
    aamirus, thou who has access to this, UNBAN *****

    YOU ARE OUR LAST HOPE JAR JAR

    HELP US

    LIBERATE THE WORLD

    H A I L H Y D R A ! ! ! !
  20. Forum:Circlejerk

    Thread:SC2Mafia Tells A Story

    Thread Author:rumox

    Post Author:Marshmallow Marshall

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    ►►Re: SC2Mafia Tells A Story◄◄

    Naz goes to Chick-fil-A and always orders the #1 chicken menu, with extra fries. Soon, Rachyl feasted ravenously on mustard, satiating his unending lust for furries. Watching Jesus as he devoured the jar, OzyWho scum-painted everyone for just writing nonsense like sensible remarks. Suddenly, Frinckles leaves. He burns his balls on purpose out of some spiteful time-wasting-urge because he is very masochistic. Unfortunately he didn't keep photos of naz cock-destroying Jesus. Blinkskater cheats whenever he snorts squirrel-cocaine which makes the godfather look lustily big-tiddied. Mesk takes the test upon melting into semen bathwater. Salmon carry butter for their gay overlord, Leonardo DiCaprio. Magoroth fell into the deep jungle. Efekannn02 thinks ten tackles are kinky enough to catch aamirus red-handed. Fred enters his BASEMENT dungeon carrying aamirus. There, Distorted disgustingly pooped his great big baby, MARSHMALLOWMARSHALL. Distorted went to the city to buy


    Jeff enters Obama non-consensually. Raegan writes Franklin a letter depicting the porn-scene wherein Frinckles professed himself. ASSociation of Ponies in Distorted's BIG commandment of CLAPPING buttchecks which keep alerting all the guards. Down Capitalists. Upon Distorted the Adhocrat who shits upon

    do your civic duty Maggots UWU, fight Distorted right up the ass for

    NECRO REEEEEstart
  21. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Your favourite flags

    Thread Author:Ganelon

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    ►►Re: Your favourite flags◄◄

    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nH...RZrQ_FB3GvlWgw

    HAIL
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    ►►Re: SIGNUPS: New Players of the Summer 2020 S-FM ???◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Dallarian View Post
    I used to like you.
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    ►►Re: SIGNUPS: New Players of the Summer 2020 S-FM ???◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    No. kys x2
    Then I must consider this an act of treason.



    I'm sorry, Banana. You left me no choice.
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    ►►Re: SIGNUPS: New Players of the Summer 2020 S-FM ???◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Yes. kys.
    But aren't you our red knight? :[
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    ►►Re: SIGNUPS: New Players of the Summer 2020 S-FM ???◄◄

    Also, is it bad that I always read "SIGNUPS: New Players of the..." as "SIGNUPS: New Players of the world, unite!"?
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    ►►Re: SIGNUPS: New Players of the Summer 2020 S-FM ???◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir View Post
    2 hours left..


    If there are any mentoRs available, I would like one.


    I am in both SC2 mafia discord and also this games server

    bakermir#9640


    I can do that
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    ►►Re: Right-wing liberalism vs Conservvatism◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by oops_ur_dead View Post
    IMO only racists and smoothbrains say that the Confederacy was about state rights or whatever. The VP of the Confederacy had an entire speech about slavery: https://iowaculture.gov/history/educ...eech-alexander

    "[I]ts foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests upon the great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery—subordination to the superior race—is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth."
    Or at least people who don't care at all about racism (or rather "applied racism" and slavery), which isn't really better than racism itself, so... more or less, yes.
    Quote Originally Posted by oops_ur_dead View Post
    also how can you say that black people are inferior when you permanently look like you died 5 days ago lmao

    Spoiler : image :
    This is not so relevant to the debate lol, but it's quite funny
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    If there's a statue of Robert E. Lee somewhere in a public space for "commemorating a great historical man who is a model for society", which there very probably is, off with its head, definetly. That stuff belongs in a museum to preserve history without glorifying persons directly associated and known mostly for slavery and for its defense. However...
    Quote Originally Posted by naz View Post
    Mag....have u looked at them?
    That is a celebration of Lincoln's abolition of slavery... it depicts a reality: slaves who were under their masters, and then Lincoln giving them freedom (yes, that is a very pompous and propangandist sentence, but it's still exactly what this statue represents). It's not glorifying slavery, it's glorifying its ABOLITION, and that is definetly something worth glorifying. It may not have been perfect, but it was a pretty damn good improvement.

    ~~

    As for "confederates are not racist", uhm, sorry, they are. Perhaps a reminder of the Declaration of Causes of Seceding States would be useful...
    Spoiler : Declaration of independence of Mississippi :
    Mississippi

    A Declaration of the Immediate Causes which Induce and Justify the Secession of the State of Mississippi from the Federal Union.

    In the momentous step which our State has taken of dissolving its connection with the government of which we so long formed a part, it is but just that we should declare the prominent reasons which have induced our course.

    Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin. That we do not overstate the dangers to our institution, a reference to a few facts will sufficiently prove.

    The hostility to this institution commenced before the adoption of the Constitution, and was manifested in the well-known Ordinance of 1787, in regard to the Northwestern Territory.

    The feeling increased, until, in 1819-20, it deprived the South of more than half the vast territory acquired from France.

    The same hostility dismembered Texas and seized upon all the territory acquired from Mexico.

    It has grown until it denies the right of property in slaves, and refuses protection to that right on the high seas, in the Territories, and wherever the government of the United States had jurisdiction.

    It refuses the admission of new slave States into the Union, and seeks to extinguish it by confining it within its present limits, denying the power of expansion.

    It tramples the original equality of the South under foot.

    It has nullified the Fugitive Slave Law in almost every free State in the Union, and has utterly broken the compact which our fathers pledged their faith to maintain.

    It advocates negro equality, socially and politically, and promotes insurrection and incendiarism in our midst.

    It has enlisted its press, its pulpit and its schools against us, until the whole popular mind of the North is excited and inflamed with prejudice.

    It has made combinations and formed associations to carry out its schemes of emancipation in the States and wherever else slavery exists.

    It seeks not to elevate or to support the slave, but to destroy his present condition without providing a better.

    It has invaded a State, and invested with the honors of martyrdom the wretch whose purpose was to apply flames to our dwellings, and the weapons of destruction to our lives.

    It has broken every compact into which it has entered for our security.

    It has given indubitable evidence of its design to ruin our agriculture, to prostrate our industrial pursuits and to destroy our social system.

    It knows no relenting or hesitation in its purposes; it stops not in its march of aggression, and leaves us no room to hope for cessation or for pause.

    It has recently obtained control of the Government, by the prosecution of its unhallowed schemes, and destroyed the last expectation of living together in friendship and brotherhood.

    Utter subjugation awaits us in the Union, if we should consent longer to remain in it. It is not a matter of choice, but of necessity. We must either submit to degradation, and to the loss of property worth four billions of money, or we must secede from the Union framed by our fathers, to secure this as well as every other species of property. For far less cause than this, our fathers separated from the Crown of England.

    Our decision is made. We follow their footsteps. We embrace the alternative of separation; and for the reasons here stated, we resolve to maintain our rights with the full consciousness of the justice of our course, and the undoubting belief of our ability to maintain it.

    Whoever supports that cause cannot be anything but racist, or at least completely uncaring about people being literally ENSLAVED, treated as PROPERTIES only because of their origins, which isn't exactly better.
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    ►►Re: SIGNUPS: New Players of the Summer 2020 S-FM ???◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    I think @SuperJack is a recruiting god and I’m scared of what will happen if he joins an mlm pyramid scheme
    Indeed!
    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    @Frinckles Could you also teach me why I somehow have 2 more "Rep Power" than you lol; given that you were at the Champs I highly doubt I should have more "Rep Power" than you, especially as someone new to FM. Because otherwise, I don't know what Rep Power is, and what it is for.
    You know "love, life and the mysteries of the universe"? Well, this goes into "the mysteries of the universe". If anyone knows how rep power magically appears, it'd be nice to share your holy knowledge with us lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    He abuses his rep so it was nerfed.
    FAKE NEWS

    TOWN TAKEOVER
    TOWN TAKEOVER
    TOWN TAKEOVER
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    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    I think its a bit disingenuous to say the civil war wasn't only about slavery. Sure some other elements were at play but they are all either directly or indirectly linked to slavery. Who do you think worked the agriculture sectors? Why do you think the south were upset over the northerners (abolitionists) making claims to new territory gains? Why do you think the final nail was the election of Abraham Lincoln?

    It's all linked to slavery. The fruits of the labor from slaves, the tradition of owning slaves, the battle to determine the survival of slavery itself.
    https://www.battlefields.org/learn/p...eceding-states

    Here's rather clear and direct evidence for anyone who would be contradicting Rumox there lmao

    ~~

    Source for Ganelon about Canadian gender law thingy: https://sds.utoronto.ca/blog/bill-c-1...ronoun-misuse/

    ~~

    I love politics, but please keep it nice, everyone. Rules still apply ;)
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    ►►Re: SIGNUPS: New Players of the Summer 2020 S-FM ???◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Ash Lael View Post
    Hi MM! I played in game 8 (the cancelled game), which you probably missed because it started after and finished before yours.

    I was also a lonely voice in spec chat loudly insisting that you were town and SilverKeith was the wolf in g7.
    The game with a lot of hype!!!!!!!!!! I didn't have time to read games sadly, but hopefully I have some to spare at some point lol. And good job. "Say SK scum"

    If you have questions or need help with something, feel free to ask!
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    Thread:My name

    Thread Author:Ganelon

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    COMBINE THE NAMES. CREATE THE ULTIMATE NAME

    Gannomagoroth

    Magoganelon

    Maggen

    Gannoth
    *pings fred*

    =)

    (=
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    ►►Re: SIGNUPS: New Players of the Summer 2020 S-FM ???◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Ash Lael View Post
    Hi, I owe Frinckles a game here because I lost a bet to him at mafia champs. Just signalling my availability if he wants me to join this one.
    Haha, welcome! Did you play in the champs, and where, if I may ask?
  34. ►►Re: The status of SC2 Mafia FM, and how we can (and must) improve it◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon View Post
    All hail SJ
    All hail Ganelon too, since he has joined FM staff! Meet the Staff! has been updated accordingly.

    ~~

    We still need someone to host Spirits II on the Ladder, by the way; if you're willing to host it and meet the requirements for it (details in the Ladder thread), message me or an FM staff member to be added to the Queue!

    Also, you may want to look at SuperJack's newbie game signups if you haven't already, either as a sign, a reserve, or a mentor
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    Thread:My name

    Thread Author:Ganelon

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    ►►Re: My name◄◄

    I'll join the reply-to-a-year-old-thread event and say that you're just Mag to me
  36. ►►Re: Scumreading and Townreading. Your thoughts, tips and guidance.◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    OK MM is Mafia here. Sorry dude you just outed your self.
    Oh god lol, my meta changed since then. Welcome back :P
  37. ►►Re: if you do not do the full version of this political quiz and post the results, you have no balls◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon View Post
    Anyways humans are just doing what all other predatory species would be doing. We’re btw the only species with Animal Cruelty movements and who care for other species.
    We certainly don’t exterminate everything we get our hands on.
    Unlike cats, say.
    Known species*

    We don't know about aliens, or "higher beings" you can call "gods" if you want, or whatever else there could be in the universe. All I said is that believing nothing could be better than us is being pretty proud lol
  38. ►►Re: if you do not do the full version of this political quiz and post the results, you have no balls◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Hey now. I wouldn't rule out intelligent life out there that is more advanced than us. Just not "god" like lol
    I did not quote you ;)
  39. ►►Re: if you do not do the full version of this political quiz and post the results, you have no balls◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by oops_ur_dead View Post
    I think believing in god is cringe because you're literally admitting that there is someone better than you and that you'll never reach that level, which is beta as FUCK.
    I think believing humans are the best thing existing in the world and not being ready to accept anything stronger, personified or not, is symptomatic of overly developed pride :]
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    ►►Re: SIGNUPS: New Players of the Summer 2020 S-FM ???◄◄

    /low priority sign or /reserve, or /mentor, depending on the needs.
  41. ►►Re: if you do not do the full version of this political quiz and post the results, you have no balls◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    You're right. He don't float in the sky. He lives on the planet Kolob. And one day you'll make planets like him. If you're baptized mormon, get your endowment, and marry in the temple that is.
    ^ that's the exact part that sucks with religion taken literally. It turns the search for the most important answers (what's the purpose of life, what must we do, must we do anything, etc.) into a way to control people so that they don't think by themselves, or literally don't think at all and only regurgitate beliefs they don't understand and call it "faith".
    Now, this sounds rather antitheist lol, but my point is that religion is not limited to this. Those who do limit it to this do something horrible: they extinguish people's minds and destroy their individuality to better control them (or simply because their own mind has been extinguished by people who seek control). However, those who genuinely try to allow people to find answers by themselves are performing a very important and noble task, and they must not be put in the same basket as the first group of people.
  42. ►►Re: if you do not do the full version of this political quiz and post the results, you have no balls◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Why are those religions more likely than the flying spaghetti god? Seriously I would like to know what is the difference beyond simply spending more time in your life talking about them
    They are not more likely to be the exact truth because that makes as little sense as pastafarianism considered as a legit belief lol, and that's part of my point. I said I agreed with principles that are more likely to be right, not dogmas. It means I think parts of those religions are morally and logically right, such as tolerance and theological search, for example.
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    why is guy who floats in the sky somehow more believable than dragons,fairies,etc.? Because 1 was presented to you as the truth and the other was presented as fiction? I mean, what actual reasons in your own experience do you have to believe one over the other?
    I don't believe "the guy floats in the sky" lol. You're basically painting me as someone who believes in everything that's in X sacred book, which I am not, and then you ask me to explain the point of view I don't have...


    Also banana, if you give me some rep, you'll be able to give some to Aamirus again at some point! Problem fixed.
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    [WIP] ►►Re: The Eternal Conflict (13P)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by secondpassing View Post
    I'd still play this, but especially if it was a long phase game, I'd hope the roles to have lots of powers, especially the evil faction and God.

    Roles seem too weak in comparison to their flavor names. Then there's a random human in the middle of a heavenly hellish war— perhaps you meant a priest for humans? While you're at it, maybe change TPR Angels into Cherub(ium), Seraph(im), or Archangels. Or you could just change the god choices to one of another religion that is not monotheistic.

    Days are too long in comparison to nights. Possible solutions are to: give demons a daychat, lengthen the night to a week, grant demons more night actions or more choices in night actions.

    Days are too long in comparison to nights and the longer the day and should be balanced accordingly. I'm not sure if you're using a similar setup in accordance to other sites, but if we assume a similar level of activity to our other games just stretched longer, I feel that town has quite the advantage. Remove an angel?
    Wowowow, this is still a WIP, don't hit on my lore yet! The lore I put up does not represent my beliefs at all, its point being to entertain and create a story for the game, not to spark a theological debate xD. If an almighty creator exists such as the Christian God, well uh, he doesn't go at war with Satan and lose, he just makes Satan disappear if he wants to... so take this as a "popular culture" good vs evil kind of lore.
    As for the human, he's there as a bridge between heaven and hell. You know, something like a Midgard-ish role.

    Hmm, I fear that people would not be involved in the game anymore if nights lasted an entire week, but I do think the chat part is an issue. I didn't want to make mafia perma-communicating at first, but I guess there's little reason not to do it. I thought about giving mafia a limited number of messages to eachother per day in a quicktopic, but giving them a permachat would be simpler.

    It's not reasonable to assume a level of activity of 500 posts per real life day in such a setup. The point of this setup is to have a game that keeps going while other games come and go, without spam. I don't want to restrict people's posting capacity, though: it's up to them to play according to the setup's spirit. Plus, more time to post also means more time to read, so I don't think that will be an issue. As a reference, you can look at MafiaUniverse's longest game ever to see that it only has 62 pages (3090 posts) after... five years. Note that MU games are usually of a level of activity close to ours.

    I see no need to remove an angel. On Mafiascum, the standard is 14 days per game day and two days per game night, and setups are balanced similarly to how they are here, I believe. The rolelist currently follows the general rule of thumb that is:
    Number of town slots = 3*Number of scum slots + 1


    But yeah, the point of this setup is not to paralyze the site for six months with a super long game that will be the only one hosted. It rather is to keep something to do for a long time, and to try an interesting way to play the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Okay but I would challenge agnosticism with this:

    Are you then also unwilling to say for sure whether Dragons, A Spaghetti God, Fairies, Gnomes, Vampires, Werewolves, Blah Blah Blah insert fantasy thing here exist?

    If so, do you even believe anything?


    What ARE you sure about the existence of? Do YOU even really exist? Can you say for sure?
    Well, yes and no, but mostly no. The things you named (dragons, flying spaghetti monster, etc.) are extremely unlikely to exist, so I can say I believe beyond a reasonable doubt that those things do not exist, a bit like how I can say I believe beyond a reasonable doubt that existing religions do not have the pure and exact truth, although some principles of sikhism and what it implies about Hinduism, Islam and Christianism make sense to me. However, I cannot purely and simply prove that the flying spaghetti monster does not exist beyond any doubt; it doesn't mean I have to believe in it. It's about probabilities, at that point.

    As for the last line "do you really exist", I'll just give you a quote

    Je pense, donc je suis.
    - Ren Descartes, Discourse on the Method, 1637


    Still true in 2020.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    God is GAY and PISSES and SHITS all over the place
    God is a goofy loser.
    - Renegade, 2020
    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    Agnostic gang rise up
    URAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    If you think atheism is a religion you don't really understand atheism
    The difference lies between atheism and antitheism. If you're saying that anyone who worships their "flying sky daddy" (lol) should go to jail, well, you're making atheism your own dogma, therefore committing the exact fault intolerant religious people commit. Atheism is not a religion. Antitheism is. I'm not sure it's perfectly accurate to define antitheism as extreme atheism, but it could be seen like that.
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    [WIP] ►►Re: The Eternal Conflict (13P)◄◄

    Ideas, suggestions and interest showing for this long phases setup would be appreciated
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    You'd like plzleaveduckk and TDL. Duck is perma banned tho
    Isn't plzleaveduck just an alt tho lol?
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    [WIP] ►►The Eternal Conflict (13P)◄◄

    The Eternal Conflict

    From the depths of Hell, Satan has planned an invasion of Heaven.


    Intent behind the Setup
    The intent behind this setup is not to paralyze the site for months with a super long game that will be the only one hosted. It rather is to try a new game style, and to have a game running in the background while forum life continues. Players are expected to participate reasonably; the definition of "reasonably" is greatly affected by the phases' lenght. Not posting for a full real life day is perfectly acceptable if you're more busy that one day, but you're expected to be active at some other points in the game day. This game is perfect for those who would like to play FM, but who cannot dedicate enough time each real life day to a game.


    Role List

    God
    TPR Angel
    TPR Angel
    Human Priest
    Angel
    Angel
    Angel
    Angel
    Angel
    Angel

    Satan
    Demon
    Demon



    Rolecards


    God
    *Lore*
    You have a one-use day kill that you may use by PMing the Host at any time during the day; the kill is instantaneous in theory, although the Host will not always be there to make it actually instantaneous, of course. It does not interrupt or end the day. The target's flip is revealed at the end of the day. It pierces immunity.

    Possible TPR Angels

    Warrior Angel
    At night, you may attack a player with your holy might, killing them. Two charges; you lose all charges if you kill a town player. Cannot be used on night 1.

    Guardian Angel
    You may heal people at night with your holy light. Does not consume a charge if the target is not attacked. Can self-heal. Cannot target the same player twice in a row. Two charges.

    More to come


    Angel
    You have the power of vote and discussion to serve the Lord, thy God. You would never be sinfully pretentious enough to request more powers than that, after all.

    Human Priest
    While you are alive, you may communicate with the dead during the night in a QuickTopic chat. You may not post more than 7 times in that chat. Unlimited charges.
    While you are dead, you may communicate with a specific person in a QuickTopic/Discord chat (to be determined by the Host). No post number restrictions.


    Satan
    At night, you may corrupt an Angel (i.e. a town-aligned player), dissolving its divine essence after a day. The target will die at the end of the next night, and knows it as soon as the day starts. God is immune to this. Is not affected by the Guardian Angel's ability. Two charges, even night use only.
    You have a one-use auto night vest.

    Demon
    Standard goons although I'd like to have some fun interaction between them and the TPRs


    OoO


    Mechanics
    Days last 3 weeks. Nights last 72 hours. That's a big part of the game's uniqueness.
    Scum have a factional kill and a permanent chat. They know eachother at the start of the game.


    Rules
    Forum Mafia Rules (link) apply.
    The Host has the right to replace or modkill any player for any reasonable reason.
    You are expected to have reasonable participation in this game. The Host determines what is reasonable activity and what isn't. You should ideally try to chime in every real life day, although you won't be scolded if you miss a single real life day; that's part of the point of the setup.
    Out of game communication (OGC) is strictly forbidden. Any form of talk about the game that is not on host-approved communication ways (game thread, night chat, QuickTopics, etc.) is OGC.



    Changelog
    Added "Intent behind the Setup".
    Gave scum a permanent chat.


  50. ►►Re: if you do not do the full version of this political quiz and post the results, you have no balls◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon View Post
    So; I’m the only right winger on this website? Lol
    SLAV'SYA OTECHESTVO, NASHE SVOBODNOYE

    But uh... yes. And you should have guessed I'd be left wing from our talks lol. I admit it's quite surprising to see that everyone appears to be left-wing on this site, though.
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