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  1. Forum:Circlejerk

    Thread:ty guys

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    ►►Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless◄◄

    -vote ChannelMiner


    yes, he did play well.

    gg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lag View Post
    Alternatively, here's why I deserve MVP,
    I was the only player that did all of:
    -Won the game
    -Didn't shoot a fellow town
    -Didn't get shot by a fellow town
    -Didn't flame excessively

    #LagForMVP
    yep
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    ►►Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless◄◄

    Kira Sends His Regards.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Lag View Post
    -vote theoneceko
    ty for the vote of confidence
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    ►►Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless◄◄

    -daykill aamirus
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    ►►Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless◄◄

    -vote MartinGG99
  9. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:CPI

    Thread Author:Helz

    Post Author:theoneceko

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    ►►Re: CPI◄◄

    i actually havent noticed my food goin up
    but i dont pay attention lol
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    ►►Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless◄◄

    ok i am SHOUTING too much

    ~~

    mm can be scum, he tunneled miz right after she shot ZEUS. then he shot chanel. MM could be using mart to lynch me, BUT

    his townread of mart does not look like pocket at all????
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    To have a chance to survive. Although... this is probably the only point in your defense I could see as half-valid, since it might not be optimal to try to survive at the cost of shooting an influent townie in such circumstances. Unless the issue is that I'm wrong. Or that you didn't think much because of panic. Eeeeeeeeeeeh. I'll let others weigh in on this
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Why are you so convincing ;-; I will let others who are not afraid of being confbiased into thinking their own case is accurate comment on this, but I don't feel so sure about it anymore, because it looks like the only way you're scum is if you just made a mistake. That is possible, but that also isn't making for a terribly strong case lol.

    Yummy salad
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Hmm. Let the record show that I am not 100 % convinced Martin is town, but he has a point
    -unvote
    what?? this is a pocket attempt??
    SCUM would attack mart aggressively for this.. unless mm was afraid of being shot for MISlynching mart
    mm literally asked me "WHAT IF I WAS POCKETING MART" tho, like how does this help SCUM!mm?
    ~~~
    he was FIRST to tunnel miz, which is extremely anti-town
    he SHOT chanel, which is also extremely anti-town

    however, mm is the only guy besides me who showed anger
    (oberon and chan were mad too, but theyre both DEAD)

    mm has been SO anti-town. scum!MM tries to rationalize, but MM has been suiciding and that makes me actually townread him
    ~~~
    mart SHOT brad
    mart HAMMERED miz after my accidental vote on her, which is extremely anti-town
    mart TOLD mm to shoot chan

    mart has been townreading T00 MUCH, and never creating a REAL push of his own
    ~~~
    actually mm's actions look worse, but tonewise mart has sounded like wolf all along. literally from the start TOWN called his posts scummy. i already explained why i think mm's actions r somewhat justified, mart has much more scum equity
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    ►►Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless◄◄

    i did NOT joke when i said EVERY town

    ur GOAL has been to eliminate EVERY town that opposed u. ur SHOT, VOTES, and suggestions on mm's shot SHOW this
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    @MartinGG99

    EVERY town called u out

    brad iso almost entirely focuses on u. U SHOT HIM
    chanel shot oli then voted u before mm shot
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Idk if its Martin or Ceko but I like Ceko more so....

    -vote MartinGG99


    I don't really trust any of you out of the 3 but whatever.
    miz shot zeus then voted u before u hammered
    oberon voted u
    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    More thoughts:

    I thought of pressuring Martin because his reads didn't really make sense to me (how can it occur to both alignments to "hammer" early? when I said it occurred to me, it only occurred to me to day kill ceko at the very start of d2. I most definitely did not want to day kill on d1).

    I feel like his reads are somewhat made up IMO. He also seems to be changing his explanation every post. I do not like that lol

    Like who thinks about the utility of an action before deciding they will be doing it?
    Town certainly doesn't go into these detailed analyses of what the optimal play is, with utility/NAI stuff and whatnot lol. It feels like he's trying to prove ceko is Mafia, which is absurd because you cannot prove anything in this game, and it feels "scummy".
    -vote MartinGG99
    ((i will admit he said i should die in lylo. but if i get fuckin mislynched for 1st time as TOWN cuz "game theory", mm is either scum or THE worst town in existence. ive never seen a MAFIA slip by for so long))

    MM voted u
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    -vote MartinGG99


    No. You're more rational than that. You were the one talking about certainty and all earlier. You don't shoot people "for the lols" as town. Ceko? Maaaaybe, even though it sucks. You? Absolutely not. You know what I think? You were afraid I would shoot you (or that you would get quickly lynched) because I said I was beginning to reconsider Ceko, and you didn't want your team to lose a shot.

    Hell, we even DISCUSSED the fact we shouldn't shoot people. If Ceko's behavior was highly questionable, yours is just unforgivable lol.

    Again, since it needs to be said:
    TWICE
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    This is soooo sooooo soooooooo much rationalization lmao. You shot Brad and then thought about reasons to justify your murder. Plus, those reasons are terribly... weak. Like, even if I try to have town!Martin's perspective while holding the assumptions based on meta as true (which makes a lot of pro-Martin assumptions), I don't see how this could possibly justify a murder. Which brings me back to what I think I said yesterday: Martin shot because he was afraid he would get lynched, which would have meant his scum team would have lost a shot on a townie. See #277 as well: it still holds.

    -vote MartinGG99


    Also, ANYONE SHOOTING ANYONE IS SCUM CLAIMING AND WILL BE SHOT BY ME TOMORROW. If I'm the one who's shot, I dare hope townies will shoot the killer too lol. Today, we are LYNCHING someone. It's not like we have no choices among those who have already shot: we have Ceko, Zeus and Martin. If all three of them are town, we absolutely deserve to lose anyway lol. I think ceko is probably town after all (#257).
    I CALLED U OUT i wanted u SHOT
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    ►►Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless◄◄

    if anything this shows martin is too confident, YET AGAIN, that mm is town

    even tho mm killed BOTH mechanically confirmed town
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    @MartinGG99 get ur vote off me in the 1% chance u are not scum

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    @Marshmallow Marshall
    Shoot Channel. If Channel for some reason flips green, I'm always voting ceko. I don't care about voting you in that situation; because if you are wolf then Ceko is definitely town who really did troll on d1 and for that he must die by my salt.
    if u are town try to win the game, WHY r u lynching a "troll" (THIS IS IN QUOTES) in f3?!?!
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    theres a chance CHAN was actually maf so i havent started thinking until now
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    ►►Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless◄◄

    @Marshmallow Marshall pls WAIT for me to post my wall
    since i actually think u will hammer me at this point
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    ►►Re: Top 10 thinkers◄◄

    Victor Hugo
    Ayn Rand
    Ray Bradbury
    Victor Hugo
    Ayn Rand
    Ray Bradbury
    Victor Hugo
    Ayn Rand
    Ray Bradbury
    Bernie Sanders
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    ►►Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless◄◄

    lol, i think martin gave up
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    there is some merit to wat u say, but ALL 18 0THER POSTS from chan look good

    and ur not even trying to get mor info from his slot?? ur just like "i will shoot him haha"

    whatever whatever

    I AM DONE P0STING
  20. Forum:News

    Thread:iso feature

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    This is a quite surprising outcome (well, not much anymore since the game didn't end as soon as the lynch happened, so when I saw stealth was waiting on his deadline, I knew...). I thought my case really was good and in the end it was just wrong



    Have you read the reasons I laid out yesterday? For real, this vote feels plain wrong, even from a newbie's perspective. It's like you are convinced of what should be done without really getting into the game, even though this is a wild game even by forum mafia standards... and this, as a newbie. Like, no, this doesn't work?


    I am not voting or shoot ceko here, he's my top townread, ironically enough. I just don't see him being scum despite the spew. See yesterday's posts on his interactions. Besides, if ceko is scum, this is a highly ridiculous game lol, and it will mean we have to actively enforce a punitive meta towards trolly/anti-town actions.

    Also, if we look at things from a more mechanical point of view...
    The position Martin is adopting here is one that makes him 100 % lose if he's scum: if he doesn't get me lynched, he is one hundred percent certain to lose, because I will just shoot him in 1v1 even if he were to convince me to lynch everyone else.
    Scum!ChannelMiner is in a similar situation... and o surprise, he wants me dead?

    Also



    In the end, this was never addressed by ChannelMiner, and it could be a newbie scum's cognitive dissonance... could be. All in all, CM appears to be the least towny of everyone here, considering the only thing that is really going for him is his shot on Oliver.

    And if I stretch a bit:


    could be TMI, especially considering the natural reaction of a newbie to such play usually isn't "oh it's just dumb town".

    -vote ChannelMiner


    Thoughts on the matter appreciated
    like, i RLY shud not be defending chanel's wall for him, but u literally asked me for my opinion
    chanel was just mad at u
    true, ig... @ChannelMiner when MM himself asks u a question, u shud answer
    i guess ?????

    granted i litrally do not care about the quotes u pulled, if ur saying cm is scum then ur saying cm is worst scum of all time to shoot his teammate who had a gun
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    ►►Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless◄◄

    like i rly dont get why u wanna shoot chanel

    if he flips town, i actually might vote u tomorrow.. however, mart is almost just as responsible for chanel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    You don't want to be shot? What a strange person you are!

    Seriously though, I am not shooting you, even though you would probably deserve it for your first post in the game xD. And whether you like it or not, Channel is scummier than Martin at the moment. You can't just judge Martin on the results of his actions and ignore the context of them. If I analyzed the game that way, you would have been shot a long time ago, considering you made the worst shot in recent FM history at the very start of this game...

    And for what it's worth, in case the game doesn't just end with me shooting Channel, note that if I were scum, I would be completely scratching a free win obtained by shooting you and having Martin vote ChannelMiner.
    u said many times u would not shoot me, so we both know that's not going to happen
  24. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:CPI

    Thread Author:Helz

    Post Author:theoneceko

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    ►►Re: CPI◄◄

    the wording of that original question is from a year ago.
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    ►►Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless◄◄

    LET IT BE CLEAR

    i want mart shot, not chan or me

    goodnight
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    here's the fuckin thing, chan shot a maf and mart shot a town + hammered MIZ,

    its not possible for chan,to sound scummer than MART. what is chan gonn do, write an essay saying he scum??
    frick this suboptimal stuff, like wow chan is SUCH a bad shot rn
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    like, he will be 1/2 between mizery/chan, aka chan will be SCUM,

    but H0W IS CHAN WORSE THAN MART L0L
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    only thing is,im worried martin will just frame and revolve discuss around chan
    but ther is chance chan could be SCUM,

    A SMALL FRICKIN CHANCE, but maybe mm will 1/2??
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    @ChannelMiner u RLY havent done much since shooting oliver, AWEPIFPWEFIOWEIOA
    how tf r u scum over martin, now
    can u PLS tell who is worse between us 3
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    ►►Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless◄◄

    mart u can no longer hammer mm u big DUM
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    H0LD ON
    if mm is offering to shoot then he no longer confirmd SCUM,

    -vote unvote


    i still rly want u to shoot mart, but if not we can YEET frickin mart to the moon
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    ►►Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless◄◄

    u even said "iwill not shoot ceko today, ceko top townread"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I thought of something I really wanted to say before going off so I logged back in lol


    you do realize that scum!me has martin pocketed and can very well shoot you and win by getting channel lynched, right? It's much safer for scum!me to just do that than to make a fuss right now. The reason I'm making a fuss right now is that I don't know for sure who is scum and don't know how whoever else is town will act VS just winning through lynching and 1v1ing scum in worst case scenario

    And tbh, I do not want a stalemate & to block games in a silly way, so I am going to ask @MartinGG99 what he thinks should be done to make this work without just throwing the game if ceko decides to be the roadblock here. We have time (forever) and I'm off anyway so no emergency. But like, if we don't want to make this a stalemate, is shooting CM the way...? I feel like Ceko will be stubborn lol
    i alredy said ur 1000000% scum if shoot me, and may i mention MIZ/CHANEL who BOTH shot maf think ur not supr town
    HECKKKK N0. bro what?!?!
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    if mm is gona keep playing this bad, we do not need him @MartinGG99 im sure will agre, OR get endless townpoints from mm for bein afk

    im not gettin shot by mm, but prhaps u will convince mm to shoot chanel. and THAT will put mm in F3 w/out a gun anyways
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    ►►Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless◄◄

    mart has way more scum equity
    miz attacked AND voted mart RIGHT befor mart hammered her
    ober attacked AND voted mart befor zeus shot him to the sky
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    i get chanel's vote on mm is random, befor he literally said he'd vote me/mart bc we both shot town. but that is THE 0nly bad part about chan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Then I guess this shall be a stalemate?
    not if mart votes u,
    then chan + i lynch mart tomorrow

    -vote Marshmallow Marshall
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I gtg as well. Ceko, have you actually read my big post explaining why Channel actually could well be scum and have simply bussed a scummate? I suggest you do, since you probably haven't. see you
    i did, and told u it was weak alredy..

    it is BAD bc too opinionated, like lag's wall on stelth last game
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    Quote Originally Posted by theoneceko View Post
    mm, i dont think u get how mart/zeus pulled off great play to destroy town
    but chanel completly ruined that

    if any1 workd together in this game, it'd be those two
    ive called out TWO maf , and know mart spewed u, but u wont SH00T
    u not shooting = u SCUM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Like, if I shoot the wrong person, this actually puts us in danger for no reason. This sucks. Damnit ceko lol.
    mm, i dont think u get how mart/zeus pulled off great play to destroy town
    but chanel completly ruined that

    if any1 workd together in this game, it'd be those two
    ive called out TWO maf , and know mart spewed u, but u wont SH00T
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    ive been punished for being indcisive before so i will NEVER vote chanel here
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Just like you looked at Mizery? yeah right pal
    no,one is lynching me when im town
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    u want to vote out BOTH ppl who shot a maf? mm this is rly, rly bad from u

    chanel is ironically my top town, bc mm/mart r insanely voting him

    mm see this from my perspective, ive no effin clue if ur maf or not but we've a 1/4 chance of killing scum today and a 1/3 chance of killing scum tomorrow
    my reads late-game r always accurate, see third line butterfly, last hope and all stars. all stars i was in f4 situation and skipped bc STEALTH told me to, then won

    we lynch chanel today u r 100% scum. im not following u OR mart after MIZlynch
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    mechanically, the safest play is for u to shoot mart

    if he flips town, then i MIGHT look at chanel. we will be in 3v1 and have one ML left
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    See the mechanical argument (Martin locking himself out from voting me, which dooms scum!him) in my last post. This is a path to defeat for scum!Martin. Also, my shot literally guarantees us the win (assuming town!MM, which I know to be true) even in 1v1 because of how the wincons are worded.
    YOU can be scum, and chanel me miz all think that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    This is a quite surprising outcome (well, not much anymore since the game didn't end as soon as the lynch happened, so when I saw stealth was waiting on his deadline, I knew...). I thought my case really was good and in the end it was just wrong



    Have you read the reasons I laid out yesterday? For real, this vote feels plain wrong, even from a newbie's perspective. It's like you are convinced of what should be done without really getting into the game, even though this is a wild game even by forum mafia standards... and this, as a newbie. Like, no, this doesn't work?


    I am not voting or shoot ceko here, he's my top townread, ironically enough. I just don't see him being scum despite the spew. See yesterday's posts on his interactions. Besides, if ceko is scum, this is a highly ridiculous game lol, and it will mean we have to actively enforce a punitive meta towards trolly/anti-town actions.

    Also, if we look at things from a more mechanical point of view...
    The position Martin is adopting here is one that makes him 100 % lose if he's scum: if he doesn't get me lynched, he is one hundred percent certain to lose, because I will just shoot him in 1v1 even if he were to convince me to lynch everyone else.
    Scum!ChannelMiner is in a similar situation... and o surprise, he wants me dead?

    Also



    In the end, this was never addressed by ChannelMiner, and it could be a newbie scum's cognitive dissonance... could be. All in all, CM appears to be the least towny of everyone here, considering the only thing that is really going for him is his shot on Oliver.

    And if I stretch a bit:


    could be TMI, especially considering the natural reaction of a newbie to such play usually isn't "oh it's just dumb town".

    -vote ChannelMiner


    Thoughts on the matter appreciated
    i wud never vote w martin..
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    ►►Re: S-FM 341: American Flag Nightless◄◄

    i have by far more posts than anyone, so i will stop

    and mm is in the thread, i will wait for him
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    like just take note how Ceko's focus on me

    is solely on me

    he isn't spending time justifying why others are town

    hes just explaining why I'm (allegedly) scum

    so when he backtracks after a hypothetical !town Martin flip

    it's not all that bad really from Channel's point of view
    and if i spend time on anyone except u (which there is no reason to?) you will scumpaint me for it anyways

    so theres no point in arguing
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    martin, i cant follow anything u say and will not try bc i know u are scum
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    @Marshmallow Marshall ignore mart, idk if he just knows how to pocket u but:

    1. MIZ and i wanted u to shoot mart
    2. MIZ and ober, the two strongest town, liked me and disliked mart. i can literally pull up quotes

    it does not get simpler than this, and im pretty sure u will shoot mart anyways? u literally said u miz/mart were in ur poe and ceko TOWN befor u lynched miz
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