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Lol.

I'm so glad I used my whore ability when I did. Else, Blazer would have killed me that night he got roleblocked. Kufufu.

Lol.

I'm so glad I used my whore ability when I did. Else, Blazer would have killed me that night he got roleblocked. Kufufu.

Lol. Wat.

Lol. Wat.

Lol, CmG. And they say foreigners can't perceive sarcasm.

So what exactly did you buy last night?

Lol, CmG. And they say foreigners can't perceive sarcasm.

So what exactly did you buy last night?

Time for the moment of truth.

Time for the moment of truth.

Okay, so I just read over the entire thread again. Didn't really make heads or tails out of it. GingerZero made several scummy posts and so did CmG. I have specific meta reasons against both of them as well.

I am leaning towards the fact that GingerZero is actually scum, but it's whatever at this point.

Glip, feel free to hammer CmG. I'd rather not, since I've had a hand in CmG's death far too many times.

Okay, so I just read over the entire thread again. Didn't really make heads or tails out of it. GingerZero made several scummy posts and so did CmG. I have specific meta reasons against both of them as well.

I am leaning towards the fact that GingerZero is actually scum, but it's whatever at this point.

Glip, feel free to hammer CmG. I'd rather not, since I've had a hand in CmG's death far too many times.

[QUOTE=AppleyNO;176098]Sumi im so confused with all these Special Rules and stuff.....

So... its CmG or Ginger....
Sumi thinks she was framed
Cap found that Ginger was suspicious(Meaning NS due do being insane)
So the best lynch is CmG, then?[/QUOTE]

I didn't necessarily think I'm framed. But between Cap and me, one of us is. Or there was an ability like, witch someone onto someone else with no notification.

It's just boggling that the Mafia would choose one of us to frame when we haven't announced whom we were visiting. But following this train of thought, it's more plausible that Cap would be the one to frame. Cap would just get the opposite result, I believe? So he would essentially become sane for one night.

Whereas mine would have to be hand selected, as in, the mafia member would have to explicitly say, make Sumi's result come up as "blah blah blah visited Orange." In which case it would be more dangerous since the person wouldn't have known who I visited. I could have very well visited the Mafia, who really did visit Orange, and it would only further incriminate them, complemented with Cap's result, which would be right if I were framed.

In other words, there's a higher risk of choosing me to frame. But since we don't know who it is, we have no idea the level of risk this person is willing to take.

Originally Posted by AppleyNO

Sumi im so confused with all these Special Rules and stuff.....

So... its CmG or Ginger....
Sumi thinks she was framed
Cap found that Ginger was suspicious(Meaning NS due do being insane)
So the best lynch is CmG, then?

I didn't necessarily think I'm framed. But between Cap and me, one of us is. Or there was an ability like, witch someone onto someone else with no notification.

It's just boggling that the Mafia would choose one of us to frame when we haven't announced whom we were visiting. But following this train of thought, it's more plausible that Cap would be the one to frame. Cap would just get the opposite result, I believe? So he would essentially become sane for one night.

Whereas mine would have to be hand selected, as in, the mafia member would have to explicitly say, make Sumi's result come up as "blah blah blah visited Orange." In which case it would be more dangerous since the person wouldn't have known who I visited. I could have very well visited the Mafia, who really did visit Orange, and it would only further incriminate them, complemented with Cap's result, which would be right if I were framed.

In other words, there's a higher risk of choosing me to frame. But since we don't know who it is, we have no idea the level of risk this person is willing to take.

[QUOTE=Glip;175927]Why weren't any buffs offered to us today? We should have had two to pick from :*([/QUOTE]

This.

I'm personally hoping that the multilynch somehow rolls out.

Originally Posted by Glip

Why weren't any buffs offered to us today? We should have had two to pick from :*(

This.

I'm personally hoping that the multilynch somehow rolls out.

Ironically, because of the different way Framer operates in this game, then Glip and Appley ARE both cleared from being Mafia. Since it would mean two framing attempts were used on both me and Cap the same night. It's impossible on Night 1. The night with Appley also sounds unlikely.

Ironically, because of the different way Framer operates in this game, then Glip and Appley ARE both cleared from being Mafia. Since it would mean two framing attempts were used on both me and Cap the same night. It's impossible on Night 1. The night with Appley also sounds unlikely.

But that would mean Oranges visited CmG, which is impossible lol. As mayor. Assuming Glip was telling the truth about having the one shot ability.

Whoever decided to do this is either a genius, or didn't think it through all the way lol.

But that would mean Oranges visited CmG, which is impossible lol. As mayor. Assuming Glip was telling the truth about having the one shot ability.

Whoever decided to do this is either a genius, or didn't think it through all the way lol.

Okay well here's the thing.

The Framer apparently gets to choose which investigator to mess up. As in, the Mafia bought the framing ability last night and chose me or Cap to mess up. And the framer can choose what results they get.

My detective results say that Ginger visited Oranges. My detective buff ability yields that whomever Ginger visited (supposedly Oranges) visited no one, which checks out. The catch is, even if Ginger visited no one and was still framed to visit Oranges, I'd still get the buff result that whomever Ginger visited (which is no one) visited no one.


This still makes no sense though. Because that would mean the framer either chose Cap's result to always come up suspicious, or my result to always show that the person visited Oranges, without knowing whom the two of us would visit.

Okay well here's the thing.

The Framer apparently gets to choose which investigator to mess up. As in, the Mafia bought the framing ability last night and chose me or Cap to mess up. And the framer can choose what results they get.

My detective results say that Ginger visited Oranges. My detective buff ability yields that whomever Ginger visited (supposedly Oranges) visited no one, which checks out. The catch is, even if Ginger visited no one and was still framed to visit Oranges, I'd still get the buff result that whomever Ginger visited (which is no one) visited no one.


This still makes no sense though. Because that would mean the framer either chose Cap's result to always come up suspicious, or my result to always show that the person visited Oranges, without knowing whom the two of us would visit.

Desu and I currently discussing my detective results with the buff and how it's affected by a framer over Skype right now.

Please stand by.

Desu and I currently discussing my detective results with the buff and how it's affected by a framer over Skype right now.

Please stand by.

Wait... If we investigated the same person... Then the framing shouldn't affect one of us and not affect the other. It doesn't make sense for him to appear innocent and visiting Oranges at the same time.

Miiiind bloooown. Mafia's got some fancy shenanigans to buy.

Wait... If we investigated the same person... Then the framing shouldn't affect one of us and not affect the other. It doesn't make sense for him to appear innocent and visiting Oranges at the same time.

Miiiind bloooown. Mafia's got some fancy shenanigans to buy.

[QUOTE=Capitalier;175721]My results say that Gingerzero is [B][COLOR=#ff0000]suspicious.[/COLOR][/B][/QUOTE]

As in, Ginger was suspicious, and is therefore innocent? Or as in, Ginger came up innocent, and is therefore Mafia?

Originally Posted by Capitalier

My results say that Gingerzero is suspicious.

As in, Ginger was suspicious, and is therefore innocent? Or as in, Ginger came up innocent, and is therefore Mafia?

It's actually pretty unnerving to think that town can actually lose this as it appears that the mafia can purchase framing abilities. And we've been relying on me and Cap for directions without pushing for discussion. Oh, the irony. If true, then neither Glip nor Appley is cleared as they were investigated the same night.

PARANOIA.

It's actually pretty unnerving to think that town can actually lose this as it appears that the mafia can purchase framing abilities. And we've been relying on me and Cap for directions without pushing for discussion. Oh, the irony. If true, then neither Glip nor Appley is cleared as they were investigated the same night.

PARANOIA.

I hope your cyan vote didn't count, Cap, cause that would be hammer if it did.

My results last night said Ginger visited Oranges.

Appeals, anyone?

I hope your cyan vote didn't count, Cap, cause that would be hammer if it did.

My results last night said Ginger visited Oranges.

Appeals, anyone?

WTF Cap lol.

Hold the votes. Our investigative results differ.

WTF Cap lol.

Hold the votes. Our investigative results differ.

Lol okay well. That was just a bluff.

My actual target was AppleyNo. He visited no one. Looks like Cap and I need to work on our synchronization.

Just wanted to squeeze for information.

Pretty sure last Mafia is CmG though, by what Bahkieh has said about his team advisor lolololol. Only CmG...

Lol okay well. That was just a bluff.

My actual target was AppleyNo. He visited no one. Looks like Cap and I need to work on our synchronization.

Just wanted to squeeze for information.

Pretty sure last Mafia is CmG though, by what Bahkieh has said about his team advisor lolololol. Only CmG...

[QUOTE=Bahkieh;172924]I killed fatalis and phyr. The bomb still lurks i believe[/QUOTE]

WTF. How do you have double kills as a consort?

Originally Posted by Bahkieh

I killed fatalis and phyr. The bomb still lurks i believe

WTF. How do you have double kills as a consort?

[QUOTE=Glip;172912]Plus I'm apparently the most mindless towny here at this point, since I've been wrong about almost everything since the beginning of the game.[/QUOTE]

Lol, if anything, it actually proves your innocence. Only Mafia are the ones with information who can talk like they know something. Nothing wrong with being wrong from your standpoint. I think you're doing very well, actually.

The only thing I have against you is the fact that you claim to have a one shot ability. Clem claims to have one. I have one. But you also have one. Personally, for me, it just makes sense for Desu to give an ability to each team, but who knows. It's pretty hard to doubt you're town.

Ginger, how do you explain your visitation then? And then Explosives Artist only has one bomb. Assuming that's how Fatalis died, the Explosives Artist is practically a mafioso now.

Originally Posted by Glip

Plus I'm apparently the most mindless towny here at this point, since I've been wrong about almost everything since the beginning of the game.

Lol, if anything, it actually proves your innocence. Only Mafia are the ones with information who can talk like they know something. Nothing wrong with being wrong from your standpoint. I think you're doing very well, actually.

The only thing I have against you is the fact that you claim to have a one shot ability. Clem claims to have one. I have one. But you also have one. Personally, for me, it just makes sense for Desu to give an ability to each team, but who knows. It's pretty hard to doubt you're town.

Ginger, how do you explain your visitation then? And then Explosives Artist only has one bomb. Assuming that's how Fatalis died, the Explosives Artist is practically a mafioso now.

[QUOTE=Glip;172903]Don't let him renig now.

[COLOR=#FF0000]-vote Duzerape[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

Hold on, Glip. I'd suggest unvoting before some of our mindless townies hammer. I have certain suspicions about this. Let him talk.

Originally Posted by Glip

Don't let him renig now.

-vote Duzerape

Hold on, Glip. I'd suggest unvoting before some of our mindless townies hammer. I have certain suspicions about this. Let him talk.

[QUOTE=Capitalier;172670]Do we have any results on CmG, Sumi? If we do, I suggest voting Gingerzero to get rid of that dastardly bomber.[/QUOTE]

I would like GingerZero to explain his actions last night. Are you in possession of a one shot ability, or are you Mafia?

[B][COLOR=#ff0000]-vote Bahkieh[/COLOR][/B]

I also love how the Mafia was all, "Let's kill the Coroner!" Next day, graveyard is available.

[B][COLOR=#00ffff]-vote graveyard[/COLOR][/B]

Originally Posted by Capitalier

Do we have any results on CmG, Sumi? If we do, I suggest voting Gingerzero to get rid of that dastardly bomber.

I would like GingerZero to explain his actions last night. Are you in possession of a one shot ability, or are you Mafia?

-vote Bahkieh

I also love how the Mafia was all, "Let's kill the Coroner!" Next day, graveyard is available.

-vote graveyard

[QUOTE=Luna;171653]I especially hope you enjoyed the Queen and James Bond jumping out of a helicopter into the stadium o.0 As well as Mr. Bean showing up to help play Chariots of Fire.[/QUOTE]

This.

Best parts evar.

I got a little emotional when all the Mary Poppins came drifting down because it was by far my favorite childhood movie and brought back so many memories... Ah, British Literature.

Originally Posted by Luna

I especially hope you enjoyed the Queen and James Bond jumping out of a helicopter into the stadium o.0 As well as Mr. Bean showing up to help play Chariots of Fire.

This.

Best parts evar.

I got a little emotional when all the Mary Poppins came drifting down because it was by far my favorite childhood movie and brought back so many memories... Ah, British Literature.

Aw, Phyr, you didn't have to reveal yourself. :( I was watching your role list, which was why I was so confident about Clem being scum today. Oh well.

I think at this point, it's not possible for town to lose, even if we mislynch every single citizen till the last one. Even if Mafia buys a two kill per night thing tonight or something. We still have our doctor. I have my one shot heal. One of the heals will go through no matter what. Ironically, it's rather funny. Because by roleblocking me or Fatalis, they're actually working against their Explosives Artist, who needs a town's visitation to work. But if they don't roleblock us, our heals will potentially go through and heal the explosion.

Either way, I'm up for a lulzy night.

Btw, guys, while I appreciate all the effort you guys are making in having my detective buff, it's rather useless when we all reveal. Won't hurt to have it though. :D Because I'm assuming all it does is give me the additional ability of being a lookout. Now, the only way this would be useful is if I visited the same person the Explosive Artist decide to visit, in which case my life would be in danger, so then I'd only live to tell whom the Explosives Artist is assuming I used the heal on myself that night or Fatalis heals me.

As for Cap, I may or may not follow CmG. Who knows. :D Let's give the explosives artist a game of chance to play.

Aw, Phyr, you didn't have to reveal yourself. I was watching your role list, which was why I was so confident about Clem being scum today. Oh well.

I think at this point, it's not possible for town to lose, even if we mislynch every single citizen till the last one. Even if Mafia buys a two kill per night thing tonight or something. We still have our doctor. I have my one shot heal. One of the heals will go through no matter what. Ironically, it's rather funny. Because by roleblocking me or Fatalis, they're actually working against their Explosives Artist, who needs a town's visitation to work. But if they don't roleblock us, our heals will potentially go through and heal the explosion.

Either way, I'm up for a lulzy night.

Btw, guys, while I appreciate all the effort you guys are making in having my detective buff, it's rather useless when we all reveal. Won't hurt to have it though. Because I'm assuming all it does is give me the additional ability of being a lookout. Now, the only way this would be useful is if I visited the same person the Explosive Artist decide to visit, in which case my life would be in danger, so then I'd only live to tell whom the Explosives Artist is assuming I used the heal on myself that night or Fatalis heals me.

As for Cap, I may or may not follow CmG. Who knows. Let's give the explosives artist a game of chance to play.

[QUOTE=Blazer;170393]then who the hell blocked me -.- a one shot use thinking im evile?[/QUOTE]

Aka, "I'm on Clem's team and I know she's consort, so now I don't know who blocked me!" :D Rut roh. Slip up.

Since we're letting Bahkieh off the hook today, Fatalis is likely to be roleblocked again. I can only hope that Glip's one shot ability is also a role block and he can role block Bahkieh tonight. But who knows. Looks like I might have to rely on my one shot ability tonight.

I feel like Clem might have claimed the one shot ability to save herself, which means we still have one unclaimed one shot ability out there. It's looking likely that it was a roleblock used on Blazer.

Either that or Bahkieh's teammate bought a one time use roleblock and somehow decided to roleblock Blazer? That doesn't seem too likely.

I reread our Coroner's posts and it seems highly unlikely he could be the explosives artist. Coupled with Cap's conversation, I'd say this person is pretty much cleared.

Originally Posted by Blazer

then who the hell blocked me -.- a one shot use thinking im evile?

Aka, "I'm on Clem's team and I know she's consort, so now I don't know who blocked me!" Rut roh. Slip up.

Since we're letting Bahkieh off the hook today, Fatalis is likely to be roleblocked again. I can only hope that Glip's one shot ability is also a role block and he can role block Bahkieh tonight. But who knows. Looks like I might have to rely on my one shot ability tonight.

I feel like Clem might have claimed the one shot ability to save herself, which means we still have one unclaimed one shot ability out there. It's looking likely that it was a roleblock used on Blazer.

Either that or Bahkieh's teammate bought a one time use roleblock and somehow decided to roleblock Blazer? That doesn't seem too likely.

I reread our Coroner's posts and it seems highly unlikely he could be the explosives artist. Coupled with Cap's conversation, I'd say this person is pretty much cleared.

We have time, Appley. No need to rush.

Glip brings a good point. Need Desu to answer that one, since it may very well out the last Mafia member we're looking for.

We have time, Appley. No need to rush.

Glip brings a good point. Need Desu to answer that one, since it may very well out the last Mafia member we're looking for.

[QUOTE=Bahkieh;170388]Well like i said. I killed him. I also blocked doc. I figured it was only a matter of time. This set up is an interesting one but not one im a fan of.[/QUOTE]

So then you did visit Blayzalot. What the heck. Lol. xD

Originally Posted by Bahkieh

Well like i said. I killed him. I also blocked doc. I figured it was only a matter of time. This set up is an interesting one but not one im a fan of.

So then you did visit Blayzalot. What the heck. Lol. xD

[QUOTE=Bahkieh;170371]I know. Ill role claim since it makes no difference. I am consort. I blocked the doc and killed the invest[/QUOTE]

You mean your teammate killed the invest?

Originally Posted by Bahkieh

I know. Ill role claim since it makes no difference. I am consort. I blocked the doc and killed the invest

You mean your teammate killed the invest?

Grand reveal!

I actually did not follow Bahkieh last night. :p I followed someone else, the real coroner. My message to this person is:

Dear Coroner:
I think I know why you didn't claim Coroner, but nevertheless, I was slightly disappointed when I found out.
I don't know how you intend to communicate your results to us, but just know I'll be watching your posts in case you need to tell me anything.

Blazer is scum, and he was roleblocked. There is no reason to lie about a roleblock, and it, ironically, outs him as the source of a Mafia kill. So that's why there was only one kill last night. I was trying to fish for information from Bahkieh, and he said he did not visit Blayzalot, which means he has to be the consort.

For anyone who's interested, my one shot ability is a doctor heal. I've already asked Deathfire about it via PM, and yes, I'm happy to report that I am allowed to heal myself.

Grand reveal!

I actually did not follow Bahkieh last night. I followed someone else, the real coroner. My message to this person is:

Dear Coroner:
I think I know why you didn't claim Coroner, but nevertheless, I was slightly disappointed when I found out.
I don't know how you intend to communicate your results to us, but just know I'll be watching your posts in case you need to tell me anything.

Blazer is scum, and he was roleblocked. There is no reason to lie about a roleblock, and it, ironically, outs him as the source of a Mafia kill. So that's why there was only one kill last night. I was trying to fish for information from Bahkieh, and he said he did not visit Blayzalot, which means he has to be the consort.

For anyone who's interested, my one shot ability is a doctor heal. I've already asked Deathfire about it via PM, and yes, I'm happy to report that I am allowed to heal myself.

[QUOTE=Glip;170321]I still can't believe Sumi hammered her despite all the evidence pointing towards her being town.

I'm still smh at that incident.
[/QUOTE]

Glip, you're just going to have to trust me on this one, and I'm almost certain I made the right decision.

And Bahkieh, I'm aware. Kufufu. You're the other consort who blocked your counterpart, Fatalis.

Originally Posted by Glip

I still can't believe Sumi hammered her despite all the evidence pointing towards her being town.

I'm still smh at that incident.

Glip, you're just going to have to trust me on this one, and I'm almost certain I made the right decision.

And Bahkieh, I'm aware. Kufufu. You're the other consort who blocked your counterpart, Fatalis.

[QUOTE=Bahkieh;170288]Well i tried. I was hoping to get an extra day. I knew i was gonna get found out. Who did i visit sumi?[/QUOTE]

Why, the poor guy now in the graveyard, of course.

Originally Posted by Bahkieh

Well i tried. I was hoping to get an extra day. I knew i was gonna get found out. Who did i visit sumi?

Why, the poor guy now in the graveyard, of course.

[COLOR=#ffa500]Bahkieh, do you [B]really[/B] want to say that you visited me? I know who you visited, and it's not me nor Clementine.[/COLOR]

Bahkieh, do you really want to say that you visited me? I know who you visited, and it's not me nor Clementine.

Alright. Then tonight, Blayzalot, you will investigate a citizen claimer who did not claim to have a one shot ability, so they will have zero excuses tomorrow if they are found to be any other pairing.

Cap and I will investigate the others.

There is only 1 Mafia witch, so it's very possible he'll witch one of us to skew our results. But 2/3 correct results shouldn't be too bad. There is also the danger of the Explosives artist, but that only kills one and we do have a doctor. Mafia will most likely aim at Fatalis, Bahkiah, or Oranges tonight, as they are not currently being protected.

I also urge those of you with a roleblock for a one shot ability to block one of the other cits, then fish for matching blocked notices later.

As for the Clem lynch... I'm really tempted to just lynch her and have one less suspect. Cause at this point, it's pretty much confirmed all the Mafia are hiding amongst the citizen claimers.

It's suspicious for one, because her original claim against her escort/consort accusation was that she was framed. She did not mention the possibility of the one shot ability until AFTER Deathfire revealed to everyone that there are. If so, then I'm thinking she does not have roleblock as an ability, and that it may actually be some other Mafia ability like framing.

I'm willing to take the chance, personally.

[B][COLOR=#ff0000]-vote Clementine[/COLOR][/B]

Alright. Then tonight, Blayzalot, you will investigate a citizen claimer who did not claim to have a one shot ability, so they will have zero excuses tomorrow if they are found to be any other pairing.

Cap and I will investigate the others.

There is only 1 Mafia witch, so it's very possible he'll witch one of us to skew our results. But 2/3 correct results shouldn't be too bad. There is also the danger of the Explosives artist, but that only kills one and we do have a doctor. Mafia will most likely aim at Fatalis, Bahkiah, or Oranges tonight, as they are not currently being protected.

I also urge those of you with a roleblock for a one shot ability to block one of the other cits, then fish for matching blocked notices later.

As for the Clem lynch... I'm really tempted to just lynch her and have one less suspect. Cause at this point, it's pretty much confirmed all the Mafia are hiding amongst the citizen claimers.

It's suspicious for one, because her original claim against her escort/consort accusation was that she was framed. She did not mention the possibility of the one shot ability until AFTER Deathfire revealed to everyone that there are. If so, then I'm thinking she does not have roleblock as an ability, and that it may actually be some other Mafia ability like framing.

I'm willing to take the chance, personally.

-vote Clementine

Uh.

No.

I'm detective and I have a one-shot ability. So we already know a citizen claimer is lying within the 3. Nice try, Mafia. I'm willing to bet Clem is Consort and whomever won't reveal their one shot ability to be the other Mafia.

Uh.

No.

I'm detective and I have a one-shot ability. So we already know a citizen claimer is lying within the 3. Nice try, Mafia. I'm willing to bet Clem is Consort and whomever won't reveal their one shot ability to be the other Mafia.

[QUOTE=Escaho;166891]I, for one, thought it was brilliant! :p[/QUOTE]

Escaho. Forever my #1 nemesis. Again. Even though I warded off your killing blade this time around. :(

I shall get you back... one day!

Originally Posted by Escaho

I, for one, thought it was brilliant!

Escaho. Forever my #1 nemesis. Again. Even though I warded off your killing blade this time around.

I shall get you back... one day!

I am currently poking Desu on Skype but he is not responding. I am assuming he's off in Code Puella Amagami Wonderland. :D

I am currently poking Desu on Skype but he is not responding. I am assuming he's off in Code Puella Amagami Wonderland.

[QUOTE=Nick;166732][ATTACH=CONFIG]4621[/ATTACH]

But I think she won't approve of the title.[/QUOTE]

Oh.

My.

Gawd.

Nick is officially my best friend.

Definitely using this as my signature as soon as I fix a render for it.

Thanks for the compliment, guys. :( I just felt really dejected the days after I pushed the lynch off Wicket and onto Monica because in retrospect, that lynch was probably the most terrible one in this game. The KPN wasn't reduced in any way since neither the gunsmith nor gun holder was killed off.

So very, very sad.

Originally Posted by Nick

But I think she won't approve of the title.

Oh.

My.

Gawd.

Nick is officially my best friend.

Definitely using this as my signature as soon as I fix a render for it.

Thanks for the compliment, guys. I just felt really dejected the days after I pushed the lynch off Wicket and onto Monica because in retrospect, that lynch was probably the most terrible one in this game. The KPN wasn't reduced in any way since neither the gunsmith nor gun holder was killed off.

So very, very sad.

Secondary town goal: See That CmG lives till the end.:D

Secondary town goal: See That CmG lives till the end.

[QUOTE=Glip;166462]So what you're saying is, since you cannot confirm that any of the results that anyone received last night were the results that they should have gotten according to the rules of the game, then we might as well all quit now because everything is BS?[/QUOTE]Relax, guys lol. Just a small error. He thought I followed someone else, probably because my PM wasn't what I usually send him.

Originally Posted by Glip

So what you're saying is, since you cannot confirm that any of the results that anyone received last night were the results that they should have gotten according to the rules of the game, then we might as well all quit now because everything is BS?

Relax, guys lol. Just a small error. He thought I followed someone else, probably because my PM wasn't what I usually send him.

Lol, alright. If you say so. :p

Lol, alright. If you say so.

[QUOTE=Glip;166424]Lol, no offense taken. I know I'm a horrible mafia player. Just look at my performance in any of my previous games and that's obvious.

I'm not sure if better players are always targeted first, though. For instance, in the Trollagy, I was killed off night 1. Yes, I was a doctor, but they had no way of knowing that yet. They targeted me, not the doctor.[/QUOTE]

It's all very complicated. I don't think you're a bad player from what I've seen this game (and FMXIII). Mafia usually target old players first. Killing is complicated, because there could be lookouts and doctors stationed on your older players, so killing a relatively new player isn't a bad strategy for not getting caught.

As for Deathfire's PM... Lol. I don't know if he can answer that question simply because if he did, he'd be confirming my role. However, we're getting the open role list anyway, yes? I'm confident detective will be on the list of town PRs. The only possibility of me being Mafia is if I either guessed, and the angels love me, or I'm a consig that somehow investigated a detective (in which case I'd still have to guess from the investigation pairings) but wants to put the blame on Glip for no reason? Lol.

Originally Posted by Glip

Lol, no offense taken. I know I'm a horrible mafia player. Just look at my performance in any of my previous games and that's obvious.

I'm not sure if better players are always targeted first, though. For instance, in the Trollagy, I was killed off night 1. Yes, I was a doctor, but they had no way of knowing that yet. They targeted me, not the doctor.

It's all very complicated. I don't think you're a bad player from what I've seen this game (and FMXIII). Mafia usually target old players first. Killing is complicated, because there could be lookouts and doctors stationed on your older players, so killing a relatively new player isn't a bad strategy for not getting caught.

As for Deathfire's PM... Lol. I don't know if he can answer that question simply because if he did, he'd be confirming my role. However, we're getting the open role list anyway, yes? I'm confident detective will be on the list of town PRs. The only possibility of me being Mafia is if I either guessed, and the angels love me, or I'm a consig that somehow investigated a detective (in which case I'd still have to guess from the investigation pairings) but wants to put the blame on Glip for no reason? Lol.

Uh. Nevermind guys. Deathfire just PMed me. He made a mistake. No worries.

Glip did not visit anyone. His claim checks out.

Alright, next.

Uh. Nevermind guys. Deathfire just PMed me. He made a mistake. No worries.

Glip did not visit anyone. His claim checks out.

Alright, next.

Lol. Meta reasons are making me believe that a framer wouldn't target Glip the first night, but let's see what Desu says about my question.

Lol. Meta reasons are making me believe that a framer wouldn't target Glip the first night, but let's see what Desu says about my question.

[COLOR=#00ff00]When a Mafia witch forces a visitation, will the witch's target receive a feedback message?[/COLOR]

When a Mafia witch forces a visitation, will the witch's target receive a feedback message?

[QUOTE=Glip;166396]You're right. It doesn't make sense to fake claim invest and give your findings on someone that could easily counter claim them. This is why I don't believe that Sumi or Cappy are scum.

I only doubt you because I believed that because the Investigator Pairings aren't bought yet, then you shouldn't know the role pairings for what she can be, and would only receive a message along the lines of "Your target spends a lot of time with people at night." Depending on what Deathfire has to say about my previous question, I may reevaluate my assumptions.[/QUOTE]

Threat of consig still out there. But we'll know soon enough whether an invest is in the game or not. And if Blayz somehow gets confirmed and there is no escort/whore in the game, we can lynch Clem and be down one scum.

Investigators typically get an investigation pairing, so no red signals there for me from Blayz. Not yet at least.

However, Blayz, no sane Mafia member would claim detective, of all roles. It's a role that Mafia doesn't have, and hard as hell to duplicate. I'd either have to be extremely lucky, or I'd be outing my own Mafia members. So, no, if you were choosing between me and Glip to see who's lying, your bet goes to Glip first. However, I'm not willing to lynch Glip yet, because lynching him does not confirm Cap's alignment if he is paranoid.

Also, Blayz, how do you know there is no... witch? Because there is one... It's mafia aligned. Rut roh. Scum slip already? Consig? No witch on your team? Great.

Originally Posted by Glip

You're right. It doesn't make sense to fake claim invest and give your findings on someone that could easily counter claim them. This is why I don't believe that Sumi or Cappy are scum.

I only doubt you because I believed that because the Investigator Pairings aren't bought yet, then you shouldn't know the role pairings for what she can be, and would only receive a message along the lines of "Your target spends a lot of time with people at night." Depending on what Deathfire has to say about my previous question, I may reevaluate my assumptions.

Threat of consig still out there. But we'll know soon enough whether an invest is in the game or not. And if Blayz somehow gets confirmed and there is no escort/whore in the game, we can lynch Clem and be down one scum.

Investigators typically get an investigation pairing, so no red signals there for me from Blayz. Not yet at least.

However, Blayz, no sane Mafia member would claim detective, of all roles. It's a role that Mafia doesn't have, and hard as hell to duplicate. I'd either have to be extremely lucky, or I'd be outing my own Mafia members. So, no, if you were choosing between me and Glip to see who's lying, your bet goes to Glip first. However, I'm not willing to lynch Glip yet, because lynching him does not confirm Cap's alignment if he is paranoid.

Also, Blayz, how do you know there is no... witch? Because there is one... It's mafia aligned. Rut roh. Scum slip already? Consig? No witch on your team? Great.

[COLOR=#ffa500][SIZE=5]By the way, there will be no retraction of role claims. Town PRs, please do not claim citizen and then later claim your real role, saying it's for protection. [/SIZE][/COLOR]

Okay. Well.

I am the [COLOR=#00ff00]detective[/COLOR]. I followed Glip last night and he visited Clementine.

Currently inspecting the possibility of Glip and Blayz on the same Mafia team, with Glip being the consig and Blayz in the same mafia as him.

By the way, there will be no retraction of role claims. Town PRs, please do not claim citizen and then later claim your real role, saying it's for protection.

Okay. Well.

I am the detective. I followed Glip last night and he visited Clementine.

Currently inspecting the possibility of Glip and Blayz on the same Mafia team, with Glip being the consig and Blayz in the same mafia as him.

[QUOTE=SirBlayzalot;166375]but I am Investigator...[/QUOTE]

Dang. If Glip claims what I think he'll claim, and I know my own role, town's going to completely dominate this game.


Okay... Upon seeing Glip's claim, he didn't claim what I thought he'd claim.

[COLOR=#ff8c00]Are you sure about your claim, Glip? It does not match with my information about you.[/COLOR]

Originally Posted by SirBlayzalot

but I am Investigator...

Dang. If Glip claims what I think he'll claim, and I know my own role, town's going to completely dominate this game.


Okay... Upon seeing Glip's claim, he didn't claim what I thought he'd claim.

Are you sure about your claim, Glip? It does not match with my information about you.

[QUOTE=Capitalier;166358]Fine, are you the other sheriff, Sumi? Give me your information on Glip, I have him as a guilty, and I checked him for asking useless questions in a guise to appear towny.[/QUOTE]

Still pending on his role claim first before I say anything.

I insist, Glip. I cannot foresee any situation where my night actions, no matter what role I am, can be used to forge a role claim based on what you claim. After all, you volunteered first to claim anyway, yes? I could have just kept my trap shut and let you role claim first either way. I just thought I'd say it to make sure you know someone is keeping tabs on your claim.

Originally Posted by Capitalier

Fine, are you the other sheriff, Sumi? Give me your information on Glip, I have him as a guilty, and I checked him for asking useless questions in a guise to appear towny.

Still pending on his role claim first before I say anything.

I insist, Glip. I cannot foresee any situation where my night actions, no matter what role I am, can be used to forge a role claim based on what you claim. After all, you volunteered first to claim anyway, yes? I could have just kept my trap shut and let you role claim first either way. I just thought I'd say it to make sure you know someone is keeping tabs on your claim.

Is Day 24 or 48 hours? I was under the impression that it was 24 hours, but whatever.

Let's get this mass role claim rolling. I have one request, and that is to claim after Glip claims, simply because yes, I have information on you.

I also suggest someone keep track of the lynch for buying the open role list and hammer it as soon as everyone claims or if it's an hour before day ends. [COLOR=#ffa500]IF ANYONE HAMMERS BEFORE THEN, YOU ARE ON THE TOP LIST FOR BEING SCUM[/COLOR]. Hopefully, if we find conflicting claims, we have a chance to lynch someone, but that doesn't seem too likely at the moment, unless everyone gets on within the next 12 hours. It'd be nice if someone could compile a list of the claimed roles too. Errands, anyone?

[SIZE=5][COLOR=#ffa500]All players: You are expected to role claim after this post. If you do not before the end of the day, we will consider you scum and employ all of town's resources towards you.[/COLOR][/SIZE]

Is Day 24 or 48 hours? I was under the impression that it was 24 hours, but whatever.

Let's get this mass role claim rolling. I have one request, and that is to claim after Glip claims, simply because yes, I have information on you.

I also suggest someone keep track of the lynch for buying the open role list and hammer it as soon as everyone claims or if it's an hour before day ends. IF ANYONE HAMMERS BEFORE THEN, YOU ARE ON THE TOP LIST FOR BEING SCUM. Hopefully, if we find conflicting claims, we have a chance to lynch someone, but that doesn't seem too likely at the moment, unless everyone gets on within the next 12 hours. It'd be nice if someone could compile a list of the claimed roles too. Errands, anyone?

All players: You are expected to role claim after this post. If you do not before the end of the day, we will consider you scum and employ all of town's resources towards you.

[QUOTE=Auckmid;166301]Wait, so the only reason that I got the gunsmith tools was because I voted for myself while nobody else voted at all? Wow, this game could have ended very differently if Vader was the only town in our vault who didn't completely lurk.[/QUOTE]

I was really sadpandaface when I found out around Day 6 or so that I had practically talked to scum the entire time in the vault. :(

Originally Posted by Auckmid

Wait, so the only reason that I got the gunsmith tools was because I voted for myself while nobody else voted at all? Wow, this game could have ended very differently if Vader was the only town in our vault who didn't completely lurk.

I was really sadpandaface when I found out around Day 6 or so that I had practically talked to scum the entire time in the vault.

[QUOTE=Yayap;166285]If Luke would have been jailed/devouved = Vader could have shot someone and town may have won. (Luke would have gotten MVP if that happened imo)

I really didn't know who would win right till I saw Vader in the jail.[/QUOTE]

So surprised Wicket saw through the whole thing and jailed me that last day. Despite Han saying he gave it to Luke. Despite Luke even confirming he got it. I even tried warding him off by saying I used the Veteran Rifle the night before, but no dice.

CmG, why you so clairvoyant. :push:

Originally Posted by Yayap

If Luke would have been jailed/devouved = Vader could have shot someone and town may have won. (Luke would have gotten MVP if that happened imo)

I really didn't know who would win right till I saw Vader in the jail.

So surprised Wicket saw through the whole thing and jailed me that last day. Despite Han saying he gave it to Luke. Despite Luke even confirming he got it. I even tried warding him off by saying I used the Veteran Rifle the night before, but no dice.

CmG, why you so clairvoyant.