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    ►►Re: MFMVIII Epilogue: Game Over!◄◄

    And Thanks for the Player's Choice :]
    Makes me a little happier after cult suddenly dropped dead right before I got boosted to level 3. :[
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    ►►Re: MFMVIII Epilogue: Game Over!◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Sumikoko View Post
    You two make me laugh.

    Did I mention I'm Clem's bodyguard this time? Sorry, Shaded, you've been demoted. By the way, I'm watching both of you, so if you try anything on her, prepare to get chainsawed. Oh, did I mention the armorsmith loves me? I have 29837489278347 auto-vests. So just try to attack me.
    lol Shaded was demoted.
    Remember guys, it takes 3 shots to kill me.
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    ►►Re: MFMVIII Epilogue: Game Over!◄◄

    You know, if ajkei had followed Cryptonic's plan and healed Shaded every night cult would have won the tie with the last townie. (I ran through an action projection earlier, but I don't have it anymore). When I saw the cult survivor was a bodyguard, I facepalmed. But in retrospect he could have pulled it off...if the doc had cooperated. If that had happened, Shaded would have been MVP for sure.
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    ►►Re: MFMVIII Epilogue: Game Over!◄◄

    I'm always citizen or neutral LOLOL. (mostly)
    Maybe I'd better stop claiming citizen so much so mafia doesn't attack me :[

    A big thank you to ajkei, the doctor for healing me from the sk! I was CONVINCED I kept getting mason bludgeoned... I claimed citizen because mason recruiting is before investigations in the order of operations so if an investigator checked me, he would think I was a mason. The investigator wouldn't reveal simply to say "Clementine was masoned last night!" so I would have been safe for at least a while! PRZ Keep healin' me!!!!

    Thanks for the votes, but I really got lucky with my recruits... You guys were awesome! I was so happy when I realized I got the booster!!! Too bad CarolinaCrown didn't live long enough to boost town PR roles to help make a difference. We could have had a fully boosted town PR cult!! :P I feel really bad for Shaded, being culted and that same night turning into the cult's sole survivor all alone!!

    Player's choice vote for Cryptonic because I think he did very well for his first game besides catching the new-player-spamposts disease. (kinda cute lol) He had good instincts mixed in with the bad, but I think after getting a few more games under his belt, he'll be a great player!

    Unluckiest player = Mopin because the first two nights, he hit the only two players in the whole entire game that were night immune. :[

    Congrats to mafia, SirBlayzalot and Escaho especially were amazing! Well played, finding ways to take advantage of the situation. :]
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    ►►Re: MFMVIII Epilogue: Game Over!◄◄

    Mafioso WAS a confirmed role though...

    https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...ame-FAQ-Thread

    I didn't get why everyone kept saying it wasn't confirmed, when it's clearly in the setup.
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    ►►Re: MFMVIII Epilogue: Game Over!◄◄

    Wow, tense up to the last very last minute when Cryptonic got hammered!

    I was secretly hoping CmG could be killed off as citizen twice. :P
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    ►►Re: MFMVIII Day 3: Darkness Looms on the Sticky Key◄◄

    Too many things about Luna's many role claims do not make sense to me if she is Doctor, and here is why:

    Evidence:
    1. Goremancer claims detective and sees Luna visiting Rocshi
    2. SirBlayzalot claims investigator and sees Luna as doctor/sk/drugdealer

    -Luna (on Day 1) claims veteran. This is an understandable claim for a doctor. Nothing fishy here.
    -Luna exposes herself as not veteran to say there may be a witch. Still nothing very fishy here.
    -Day 3 Luna is caught by Goremancer the detective visiting Rocshi. People seem to be forgetting this part of Luna's story. Why does Luna heal Rocshi on N2 if she is doctor and Rocshi is putting out severely strong jester vibes? I assume Luna is smarter than that to want to heal a possible Jester. I also almost believe Rocshi is godfather WIFOM'ing Jester, regardless of whether Luna is town or scum. If that possibility didn't occur to Luna I find that extremely odd. Her Rocshi visitation that she DID NOT CONTEST originally when she claimed invest is just too weird a move for Luna the doctor. I would like this explained.
    -Luna is caught by SirBlayzalot who is confirmed as invest/consig or on a team with a consig since Luna agrees she fits the doc/sk/dd pairing and obviously claims doc.
    -Therefore Luna is doc or dd who visited Rocshi last night (sk would have killed Rocshi and Escaho claimed attacked instead of Rocshi).

    The big takeaway question I want to pose is does it make more sense for Luna the doctor or Luna the dd to visit Rocshi the probable Jester last night? If Luna is DD, she might want Rocshi to think his soul is stolen as a jester, so mafia knows who NOT to vote. If Luna is Doctor, why Rocshi? I can think of so many better targets than Rocshi. Town, don't forget about this major flaw in Luna's story. Don't be confused by BorkBot and Luna trying to mislead you. I am convinced they are on the same team (BorkBot consig and Luna dd) because Luna is wiggling out of the spotlight assisted by BorkBot for some strange reason if he really is exec.

    Because of these reasons
    -vote Luna

    I see no reason why we can't lynch Luna now and then have a whole day left to discuss the implications of Luna's lynch. (if she flips DD in the most likely situation or if she flips doctor which is the less likely one because of visiting Rocshi)
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    ►►Re: MFMVIII Day 3: Darkness Looms on the Sticky Key◄◄

    People who haven't posted yet:
    Blazer, Cryptonic (funny how this guy is suddenly unusually quiet), Shaded

    Thoughts on Luna:
    At this point, I believe Luna is DrugDealer. Not sure whether mafia also has a witch, or if they might have a framer/lawyer. (Due to balance reasons, I believe we have a detective, but not a lookout, and mafia might have a framer or a lawyer)

    BorkBot is not sticking to his amnesiac claim and just voting to hammer. He keeps voting random people like Blazer and Brendan, I believe to WIFOM executioner/sheriff. He keeps trying to take the pressure OFF of Luna and talks about a Luna-Goremancer-Rocshi connection that makes me think that if Luna flips mafia (likely) then BorkBot may also be mafia.

    Rocshi is likely godfather pretending to be jester. Fits in the same investigation pairing. I doubt he would be so blatant if he actually was jester.


    Other comments:
    -new players unvoting at the suggestion of more experienced players seems genuine and not like a "protecting fellow mafia" move to me
    -It seems like there might be a serial killer in this setup and probably not a soul thief?
    -FOS Mopin as possible cult leader/cultist. I forget exactly why, but I somehow find him suspicious.
    -Sinclair is being absolutely useless and just posting about sleeping. Please try to be more productive. He is usually very helpful, which makes me think he is lurking scum in this game.
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    ►►Re: MFMVIII Day 3: Darkness Looms on the Sticky Key◄◄

    derp.

    Goremancer claimed detective, not lookout... Forget what I said in my previous post.
    (before everyone thinks I'm really scummy for saying that)
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    ►►Re: MFMVIII Day 3: Darkness Looms on the Sticky Key◄◄

    Ohai gaiz! I'm back! Seems like a lot has happened.

    I'm inclined to believe Sir Blayzalot's investigator claim. It seems sincere. I also agree BorkBot should claim vigi tonight and shoot Rocshi to see if he is night immune. Gotta look through my notes, I actually suspected Rochi about being Godfather, maybe I can make a more coherent post in the morning. I will vote Luna tomorrow, late in the day, but we should definitely slow this down and not skip ahead too quickly with a lynch. I wouldn't put it past Rocshi to try a jester gambit as godfather, especially since Jester lynches in this setup would be devastating to town. We should WIFOM protect SirBlayzalot and Goremancer by saying doctor on Gore and Gore on SirBlayz tonight, and maybe booster can also visit one of them to level up. That should probably be our priority right now to get a well protected investigator to start clearing people. We can only protect so many roles, so other town PR should NOT claim just yet. We will already have our hands full protecting Goremancer and SirBlayzalot. Not trying to direct PR night actions, just WIFOM protect so feel free to do w/e you want.

    Does a lynch end day?
    Sorry for some reason I can't type in green on my phone... :[

    Plz don't hammer until tomorrow so I have time to try to post some thoughts on this day.
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    ►►Re: MFMVII Day 3: Darkness Looms◄◄

    Hi guys, I'm going to be gone for most of today, but I thought I'd just pop in here before I leave to check up on things. Seems like we've just got 1KPN going, so we can confirm no serial killer. Can't think of why people wouldn't claim soul stolen, so unless there is a soul stolen claim today, there is likely arsonist and cult leader for the evil neutrals.

    I'd also like Escaho to talk a little bit more today, since he has been unusually quiet (in my opinion).
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    ►►Re: MFMVIII Day 2: First Blood!◄◄

    Lynching for the sake of eliminating members is pro cult. Cult wants as many people to die as fast as possible (as long as they're not in cult) so that they can establish a voting majority.
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    ►►Re: MFMVIII Day 2: First Blood!◄◄

    Claiming executioner now, BorkBot? Careful, the too many role claims kind of behavior got sad panda killed in M-FM VII.
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    ►►Re: MFMVIII Day 2: First Blood!◄◄

    Nah bro I ain't a witch. I'm just the cuddly little black cat that crossed your path in 5-sided town. (this means you get bad luck for your next forum mafia)!

    :P :P :P
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    Finished takin my notes. I neither confirm nor deny being recruited.

    I wanna hear what Luna has to say!! Will be waiting for her reply.
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    ►►Re: MFMVIII Day 2: First Blood!◄◄

    If I was a drug dealer I would be 100% stupid to drug dealer a claimed veteran N1 on the off chance that Luna would be telling the truth.

    Like Luna said, there is most likely a witch...

    OR,

    I provided an alternate scenario in which Luna is mafia. I find it scummy that you are suddenly accusing me of being a drug dealer, after first your vivid denial of the likelihood of there being a drug dealer and second, your (in my opinion) pretty adequate analysis of why a drug dealer was unlikely to have dealt a role block or a bus drive. I have just offered a great counterexample to why a bus drive is a perfectly fine drug deal, and you fail to grasp why I now think it implicates Luna. You have proven to be smarter than this, so why so defensive of Luna?

    Connection between Cryptonic and Luna? I think so. Something to keep an eye on.
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    ►►Re: MFMVIII Day 2: First Blood!◄◄

    Hi everyone, at this point, it seems like there is a confirmed bus driver, and witch because of the Luna situation. Just for clarification...
    What happens in this scenario?

    Bus Driver (swaps Person A with Person B)
    Witch witches Bus Driver onto Person C.

    Who are the two people that end up switched?


    It does seem unlikely that anyone would target Luna N1 (except obviously a witch redirecting someone to Luna). Apparently now mafia knows who the bus driver is, due to our feedback messages. Why would the bus driver want to bus me though?

    Conspiracy Theory #1:
    I have a crazy theory that I was drug deal bus driven and Luna is mafia serving as the second bussed claim to add credibility to the "bus driver." Mafia should want to kill the bus driver tonight, as they have found a powerful town role that cannot yet self target. If I don't see a bus driver dead tomorrow, there BETTER be two bussed claims tomorrow (which forces a drug dealer to use the bus driven drug and have a mafia member claim tomorrow). Day 3, the drug dealer would use a different drug to level up, and the remaining two mafia members would claim bussed in order to help corroborate the bus driver story. From Day 4 and onward, the drug dealer can use the bus driven drug on two players at once.

    If I'm being truly paranoid, this is a mafia plot to see if I am WIFOMing citizen or being truthful about my claim (i.e. was I successfully recruited by the masons despite being "bussed" because a mason leader would never target Luna, especially with many better targets offering themselves. Furthermore, an unwitched bus driver would NEVER switch a citizen claimer hoping to get recruited with a veteran. That is the most anti-town night action I can think of). You'll never know until you kill me, mafia. I was either successfully recruited by the masons last night and am calling your bluff Luna, or I'm just paranoid and coming up with conspiracy theories. I will neither confirm nor deny that I am a mason, but if I am, be assured we will discuss this in great detail tonight.

    ---
    Additionally, due to the lack of soul thief and serial kill feedback (soul stolen, attacked and healed), I feel like we can confirm the presence of a cult leader and arsonist in this setup. I expect arsonist to want to burn N5 to level up completely. I haven't fully thought out the implications of arsonist deaths in conjunction with mafia deaths and cult conversions, but we should assume we need to find and eliminate the evil neutrals by N3/N4 at the latest in order to nip things in the bud and take them out before too much damage is done.
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    ►►Re: MFMVIII Day 2: First Blood!◄◄

    Cryptonic is either hyperactive-trying-to-be-helpful-citizen or godfather-trying-to-mislead-us.
    Only citizen and godfather (and maybe a benign neutral) don't mind being role blocked N1, and wouldn't have any status effects to tell them if it's a real or fake role block. He posted that a drug dealer wouldn't fake role block him in case he had any night action feedback. I believe this much about Cryptonic's role.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptonic View Post
    I'm in charge of the mafia apparently:

    Day 1:
    Cryptonic: OK GUYS.
    We'll start lynching at #1. Duzero and move down the list.

    Killers will start at #20. CmG and move up the list.

    sounds like a plan???


    ----------

    should we... lynch... him...?
    Starting to look at this whole post in a new light... Wouldn't it be awkward if Cryptonic actually WAS in charge of the mafia... as godfather!!!? FOS on him too for now.
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    ►►Re: MFMVIII Day 2: First Blood!◄◄

    Hi everybody, last night I was bus driven. I'm honestly a little upset that the bus driver would try to swap me, because in my mind that seems a little anti-town. I almost suspect a Drug Dealer bus drive, but at this point I can't be sure because some people do seem to suspect me already of being mafia. I could have been swapped with CmG for all I know, so I won't go raging at the bus driver just yet. Can anyone else confirm that they were also bus driven? If so, we likely have a bus driver. If not, we likely have a drug dealer (or a scummy neutral who doesn't want to claim for whatever reason).

    Cryptonic seems harmless for now. Let's stop wasting our time in daychat interrogating him.
    He was likely roleblocked for real; I agree with the reasoning he gave. It's too early to tell, but it also seems a little scummy to me that an escort would try to role block Cryptonic, who claimed an investigative role. Sure, the escort could have thought he was scummy, but I kind of think it makes more sense that mafia has a consort and potentially a drug dealer at this point. I doubt they would have both a consort and a drug dealer though. It seems more likely that the fourth mafia role is framer or lawyer. Just a hunch though. I do not think we have a witch at this point.

    I would like to FOS Mopin for not dying N1. Seems like every game I play with him, he dies N1 unless he is mafia or another neutral role.

    For now, let's just wait for everyone to check back in with night effects before we jump to any conclusions.
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    ►►Re: MFMVIII Day 1: May The Odds Be Ever In Your Favour◄◄

    I believe there is likely to be a soul thief in this setup to interact with the level up mechanics, as well as a serial killer/arsonist to increase the KPN. Even so, I think it's good to behave as if there could still be a cult/masons in this game.

    I haven't played any "traditional cult/mason" games here where the masons haven't completely been revealed since D1 (M-FM VII) or the mechanic was weird (FM-XII). In any case, if there is one, Mason Leader should NOT reveal their presence, and should stealth recruit people each night in order to setup a network of confirmed town roles. I won't believe any mason claims until I am in the masons, as I think it would be just as easy for members of the mafia to claim masons, although such claims can easily be proven/disproven better than in the M-FM VII setup, at least in the case of cult trying to fake mason.

    Tomorrow, regardless of what happens, I shall neither confirm nor deny being recruited by the masons, and I urge anyone else who is asked to say the same.
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    ►►Re: MFMVIII Day 1: May The Odds Be Ever In Your Favour◄◄

    I was about to call Luna out for claiming veteran because veteran going on alert isn't in the order of operations.... But then I realized that veteran is always on alert in this setup.

    If Mafia has a witch, they will likely test out the veteran claim by witching someone to visit Luna tonight. If there is a witch, I doubt there would also be an interceptor. Based on what happens tonight, we should be able to start narrowing down mafia roles and neutral roles tomorrow.
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    ►►Re: MFMVIII Day 1: May The Odds Be Ever In Your Favour◄◄

    BorkBot is scummy for wanting to waste a Mason Leader recruit just to prove he's not a citizen.
    Unless he is trying to WIFOM town amnesiac as citizen, which I still find scummy, as it only serves to help mislead the town when trying to determine neutral roles.

    In any case, I have once again gotten my favorite role ever! I am Citizen. Since nobody else has openly claimed, I have decided to do so. Feel free to choose between either me or BorkBot for recruiting tonight. If they exist in this setup, I feel I have much to offer the Masons and will happily share my notes, etc. I believe I can be a great asset for town, and I hope my reputation will allow me to soak up a bullet at night.

    Because there is an interceptor in this game, I believe it wise to offer two potential recruitment targets for the Mason Leader to help keep him safe.

    xoxo Clementine
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    ►►Re: MFMVIII Day 1: May The Odds Be Ever In Your Favour◄◄

    Can't fool me sumikokoko. I am on to you.
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    ►►Re: MFMVIII Day 1: May The Odds Be Ever In Your Favour◄◄

    Hi everyone!!
    *yawn*
    brand new day

    By sumi's logic, she's also trying not to be scummy by calling out her own teammates!
    Scum right there!!
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