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I've got a great idea, aamirus, why don't you discipline those other blokes being mean to me?

I've broken zero rules here. Just a man seeking great justice against an "alcoholic", pathologic liar who said he was going to leave, but is still here! 8 crimes and here he's still walking around with his chest up like his farts smell like perfume.

As per my name, I'm a man of peace (not child as others claim). But I'm not going to be peaceful when there's clearly a huge misgrieving I cannot forgive. Like I said before, I'll honour my word and leave you all alone IF you guys ban his forum account and further iterations of it. I won't pick any more fights, I swear.

He's a cancer to this community and it's absolutely appalling how many people are willing to protect this rulebreaker. With these many supporters, even Hitler could get away with anything.

I've got a great idea, aamirus, why don't you discipline those other blokes being mean to me?

I've broken zero rules here. Just a man seeking great justice against an "alcoholic", pathologic liar who said he was going to leave, but is still here! 8 crimes and here he's still walking around with his chest up like his farts smell like perfume.

As per my name, I'm a man of peace (not child as others claim). But I'm not going to be peaceful when there's clearly a huge misgrieving I cannot forgive. Like I said before, I'll honour my word and leave you all alone IF you guys ban his forum account and further iterations of it. I won't pick any more fights, I swear.

He's a cancer to this community and it's absolutely appalling how many people are willing to protect this rulebreaker. With these many supporters, even Hitler could get away with anything.

Like why the fuck would anyone type like that? Your weeaboo idol, Light Yagami, wouldn't approve. Jesus, I feel sorry for any of your audiences who have to read that shit.

Like why the fuck would anyone type like that? Your weeaboo idol, Light Yagami, wouldn't approve. Jesus, I feel sorry for any of your audiences who have to read that shit.

[QUOTE=Light_Yagami;941219]Man From My POV You Are The One Acting Like The Child And The Fool.. Also From My POV You Are The Most Hateful Person I Have Ever Seen On This Site.. Further More I Pretty Sure If PPL Stopped Interacting With You On Every Level.. You Would Just Go Away.. I Think Thats For The Best.. The Doors Right There..[/QUOTE]

Jesus Christ, bud. Please learn proper English grammar. I'm not going to use any of my PhD energy to read a goddamn book title.

Originally Posted by Light_Yagami

Man From My POV You Are The One Acting Like The Child And The Fool.. Also From My POV You Are The Most Hateful Person I Have Ever Seen On This Site.. Further More I Pretty Sure If PPL Stopped Interacting With You On Every Level.. You Would Just Go Away.. I Think Thats For The Best.. The Doors Right There..

Jesus Christ, bud. Please learn proper English grammar. I'm not going to use any of my PhD energy to read a goddamn book title.

4 beers is not alcoholism, it's lightweightism. So not only are you a manchild crying wolf, you're a pathologic liar that deserves nothing but the worst.

I've broken no rules and look at this level of treatment I'm getting with insulting PMs, negreps, being called a child, etc. compared to this other "man" who's been glorified by his pocket pussies.

4 beers is not alcoholism, it's lightweightism. So not only are you a manchild crying wolf, you're a pathologic liar that deserves nothing but the worst.

I've broken no rules and look at this level of treatment I'm getting with insulting PMs, negreps, being called a child, etc. compared to this other "man" who's been glorified by his pocket pussies.

[QUOTE=blinkskater;941210]When the sauce is all people care about they shift from the person they once were into a new warped type of individual. It's hard to explain unless you've been there. [/QUOTE]

I have been there. It's called ranch and barbecue dressing and I put it on everything except for pastries in which case I preferred maple syrup.

Originally Posted by blinkskater

When the sauce is all people care about they shift from the person they once were into a new warped type of individual. It's hard to explain unless you've been there.

I have been there. It's called ranch and barbecue dressing and I put it on everything except for pastries in which case I preferred maple syrup.

What kind of excuse is that? I've been struggling with obesity for years now and I've recently changed my diet and going to the gym. Except they were closed for the past year. So I went from 305 lbs from the start to now 356 lbs. Where's all my sympathy?

What kind of excuse is that? I've been struggling with obesity for years now and I've recently changed my diet and going to the gym. Except they were closed for the past year. So I went from 305 lbs from the start to now 356 lbs. Where's all my sympathy?

[QUOTE=SevenForce;941201]cry.[/QUOTE]

Will do, ZZOrange's pocket pussy.

Originally Posted by SevenForce

cry.

Will do, ZZOrange's pocket pussy.

[QUOTE=Veliaire;940829]How is this post even allowed? Its straight up cyberbullying. This is what I'm talking about with the personal vendetta some of you have against zz. Its borderline sick.[/QUOTE]

It's not cyberbullying. It's about making someone accountable for their language. [url="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/49010-Didn-t-think-I-was-ever-gonna-post-something-like-this-but-AAmirus-said-to-so-here-we-are?p=939418&viewfull=1#post939418"]He also straight up lied about having a severe health disorder to get sympathy posts[/url] so he could get unbanned. Now that's fucking sick.

The only reason I'm getting so much hate is because everyone else here wants to see me fail harder than ZZOrange because it's fun and entertaining. I've gotten negreps from hostile users here telling me to "cry more" and someone wanting to fuck my bussy left by Stealthbomber16, an outspoken Islamophobe who literally said that his name was made out of wanting to bomb mosques specifically. If those users are allowed to exist, then my concern is far far from cyberbullying.

My self-righteous about seeking great justice from a man who has taken so much fun away from me. So much so that I ragequit dozens of times. While he's permabanned now, he is on these forums, which is of great concern to me because he also made a goodbye post to stroke his own ego and that irritates me extremely much. This is because I also left plenty of "goodbye" posts on many forums back in the 2000s and I actually left them. But to see this man continue using these forums despite promising he'll be leaving isn't cool at all.

Originally Posted by Veliaire

How is this post even allowed? Its straight up cyberbullying. This is what I'm talking about with the personal vendetta some of you have against zz. Its borderline sick.

It's not cyberbullying. It's about making someone accountable for their language. He also straight up lied about having a severe health disorder to get sympathy posts so he could get unbanned. Now that's fucking sick.

The only reason I'm getting so much hate is because everyone else here wants to see me fail harder than ZZOrange because it's fun and entertaining. I've gotten negreps from hostile users here telling me to "cry more" and someone wanting to fuck my bussy left by Stealthbomber16, an outspoken Islamophobe who literally said that his name was made out of wanting to bomb mosques specifically. If those users are allowed to exist, then my concern is far far from cyberbullying.

My self-righteous about seeking great justice from a man who has taken so much fun away from me. So much so that I ragequit dozens of times. While he's permabanned now, he is on these forums, which is of great concern to me because he also made a goodbye post to stroke his own ego and that irritates me extremely much. This is because I also left plenty of "goodbye" posts on many forums back in the 2000s and I actually left them. But to see this man continue using these forums despite promising he'll be leaving isn't cool at all.

Day #8: all right, guys. I think it's time to call it quits. I don't want to be associated with a community of racists anymore. That being said, I will speak poorly about this custom map going forward since the admins have obviously failed to do anything about this nonsense.

Day #8: all right, guys. I think it's time to call it quits. I don't want to be associated with a community of racists anymore. That being said, I will speak poorly about this custom map going forward since the admins have obviously failed to do anything about this nonsense.

[QUOTE=ZZorange;939243]Are you victim blaming?[/QUOTE]

Your mind is wasted on your day job because I can't comprehend the mental gymnastics you'd have to do to think you're a victim here.

If a pedophile raped your child while he/she was intoxicated on drugs and alcohol, that doesn't make the pedophile the victim in any circumstances.

Originally Posted by ZZorange

Are you victim blaming?

Your mind is wasted on your day job because I can't comprehend the mental gymnastics you'd have to do to think you're a victim here.

If a pedophile raped your child while he/she was intoxicated on drugs and alcohol, that doesn't make the pedophile the victim in any circumstances.

[QUOTE=Oberon;939237]Are you just trying to sound smart? Lol[/QUOTE]

This is the context:

[quote=HMOP][quote=Oberon]tbh I've played with ZZOrange and before and in game, he didn't seem that bad to me. [/quote]
^ Because he usually died N1/D2 for his gamethrowing history. Are you sure you don't have survivorship bias? [/quote]

Survivorship bias is a cognitive bias. If you only see the games where ZZOrange wins, you're only seeing a limited pool of data. Same with the other side.

My experience with ZZOrange and his 72222 games have been awful. Every time he makes one of these games, people will always leave because they're objectively awful. When we were on the same team, he'd usually be targeted N1, which is the opposite you'd want. And if he did survive to D3-D4, he'd give away some crucial info that leads to the town's demise. If no one PMs him, then everything is OK, but that doesn't excuse the counterintuitive playstyle and terrible host setups.

Originally Posted by Oberon

Are you just trying to sound smart? Lol

This is the context:

Originally Posted by HMOP

Originally Posted by Oberon

tbh I've played with ZZOrange and before and in game, he didn't seem that bad to me.

^ Because he usually died N1/D2 for his gamethrowing history. Are you sure you don't have survivorship bias?

Survivorship bias is a cognitive bias. If you only see the games where ZZOrange wins, you're only seeing a limited pool of data. Same with the other side.

My experience with ZZOrange and his 72222 games have been awful. Every time he makes one of these games, people will always leave because they're objectively awful. When we were on the same team, he'd usually be targeted N1, which is the opposite you'd want. And if he did survive to D3-D4, he'd give away some crucial info that leads to the town's demise. If no one PMs him, then everything is OK, but that doesn't excuse the counterintuitive playstyle and terrible host setups.

[QUOTE=Oberon;939225]I find it deeply ironic you would accuse others of bias when you're sitting here making one post per day until ZZOrange gets banned...[/QUOTE]

What does survivorship bias have anything to do with this thread? Are you confusing cognitive biases, which disrupt critical thinking, with a bias of having an opinion?

Originally Posted by Oberon

I find it deeply ironic you would accuse others of bias when you're sitting here making one post per day until ZZOrange gets banned...

What does survivorship bias have anything to do with this thread? Are you confusing cognitive biases, which disrupt critical thinking, with a bias of having an opinion?

Day #7: [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_Hy7zF-Js8"]I CAN DO THIS ALL DAY, FOLKS![/URL]

Day #7: I CAN DO THIS ALL DAY, FOLKS!

[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;939084]invoke my name when you hit day #16[/QUOTE]

Day #6: No, why would I do that, you islamophobe.

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

invoke my name when you hit day #16

Day #6: No, why would I do that, you islamophobe.

I don't recall or see its relevance here, sorry.

I don't recall or see its relevance here, sorry.

Day #5: Folks, unfortunately I got rejected by MM. Here's hoping for Voss.

[url="https://youtu.be/o59l7MhpL-g"]Link of the day from one of my favourite movie clips of all time.[/url] Everyone should watch it if they haven't.

Day #5: Folks, unfortunately I got rejected by MM. Here's hoping for Voss.

Link of the day from one of my favourite movie clips of all time. Everyone should watch it if they haven't.

Day #4: sent my two PMs. Awaiting reply.

Here's some sunshine for all of you today: [url]https://youtu.be/zf-EPhNRBi8[/url]

Day #4: sent my two PMs. Awaiting reply.

Here's some sunshine for all of you today: https://youtu.be/zf-EPhNRBi8

Day #3: summoning [MENTION=6527]Voss[/MENTION] and [MENTION=29377]Marshmallow Marshall[/MENTION] for visibility.

[url="https://youtu.be/BW8Aleq2Hn0"]Please make me as happy this man.[/url]

Day #3: summoning @Voss and @Marshmallow Marshall for visibility.

Please make me as happy this man.

[QUOTE=Unknown1234;937881]Hey man, I’m just reading what you said.

“ I just wanted a friend because this pandemic made me lonely and mentally unstable.”

I’m not going to judge you if you wish to seek friendship here. However I don’t believe that anything you are doing in this thread is going to make you happy if that’s the end goal. Look for love in dark times, not reasons to hate people or want them gone.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that was a joke bro. Don't take everything you see on the internet seriously. I just shitpost here for fun.

This is day #2. I'll be contacting those admins shortly. [url="https://i.imgur.com/d3wzWmq.jpeg"]My dream is to see ZZOrange as depicted in this picture: band.[/url]

Originally Posted by Unknown1234

Hey man, I’m just reading what you said.

“ I just wanted a friend because this pandemic made me lonely and mentally unstable.”

I’m not going to judge you if you wish to seek friendship here. However I don’t believe that anything you are doing in this thread is going to make you happy if that’s the end goal. Look for love in dark times, not reasons to hate people or want them gone.

Yeah, that was a joke bro. Don't take everything you see on the internet seriously. I just shitpost here for fun.

This is day #2. I'll be contacting those admins shortly. My dream is to see ZZOrange as depicted in this picture: band.

[QUOTE=aamirus;937877]but he's not banned from those and can continue to play them both? i mean he already replied to you and said he was only saying goodbye to arcade players[/QUOTE]

1. He didn't say it was only for goodbye to only arcade players.
2. How can you sleep at night knowing you're playing with a known troll who constantly ruins games? Do punishments not carry any weight here whatsoever?

[QUOTE=Unknown1234;937878]Honestly the only thing I take from your posts is that you’re trying to gain attention from people with all this drama. First Helz, now ZZ, there are better ways to get people to notice you if that’s what you’re after.[/QUOTE]

Why the fuck would I care about attention? I haven't played this game since March and April and I only play in short bursts. I honestly don't care about you, Helz, or anyone else here except for Airdawg, FrankZappa, Drapoel, and now ZZOrange; all that talk with Helz was all banter. I'm a man of integrity and my self-imposed duty is to ensure that other people stick to their word.

Originally Posted by aamirus

but he's not banned from those and can continue to play them both? i mean he already replied to you and said he was only saying goodbye to arcade players

1. He didn't say it was only for goodbye to only arcade players.
2. How can you sleep at night knowing you're playing with a known troll who constantly ruins games? Do punishments not carry any weight here whatsoever?

Originally Posted by Unknown1234

Honestly the only thing I take from your posts is that you’re trying to gain attention from people with all this drama. First Helz, now ZZ, there are better ways to get people to notice you if that’s what you’re after.

Why the fuck would I care about attention? I haven't played this game since March and April and I only play in short bursts. I honestly don't care about you, Helz, or anyone else here except for Airdawg, FrankZappa, Drapoel, and now ZZOrange; all that talk with Helz was all banter. I'm a man of integrity and my self-imposed duty is to ensure that other people stick to their word.

[QUOTE=aamirus;937871]These forums also facilitate Forum mafia and narrator though, and he’s been playing both of those[/QUOTE]

By social faux pas, I'd hate to interrupt. I'd also be willing to wait until the end of those games to end before permabanning him.

How does this sound?

Originally Posted by aamirus

These forums also facilitate Forum mafia and narrator though, and he’s been playing both of those

By social faux pas, I'd hate to interrupt. I'd also be willing to wait until the end of those games to end before permabanning him.

How does this sound?

Friends,

Unfortunately, I have to reveal to you a disgusting egregious crime that is perpetuated by the admins and the ringleader they shill to, ZZOrange.

On June 5, 2021, [url="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/48839-ZZOrange-1-S2-1-2701690"]2Blue submitted the final report that would eventually lead to ZZOrange's ban the next day by both aamirus and Arrow the next day.[/url] This is not the first crime of his history as aamirus has summarized here:

[quote][COLOR=#0091EA][B][U]Previous Offenses[/U][/B][/COLOR]
[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/48448-ZZorange-1-S2-1-2701690?highlight=2701690"]Griefing[/URL] (May 2021, [COLOR="#FF0000"]Permaban[/COLOR] - [URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/48623-ZZOrange-Appeal?p=924447#post924447"]Appealed[/URL])

[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/48193-ZZorange-1-S2-1-2701690?highlight=2701690"]BL X4 (feb 2021)[/URL]
Intentional Gamethrowing

[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/47791-ZZorange-1-S2-1-2701690"][I]BLx2 appealed to a WLx3 (late January 2021)[/I][/URL]
Intentional Gamethrowing/Griefing

[COLOR="#FF8C00"]Gamethrowing[/COLOR] (2011, [COLOR="#FFFF00"]KickVote[/COLOR]),
[COLOR="#FF0000"]Skyping[/COLOR] (2013, [COLOR="#FFFF00"]2xKickVote[/COLOR]),
[COLOR="#FF0000"]Skyping/Cheating[/COLOR] (2013, [COLOR="#FFFF00"]4xKickVote[/COLOR]),
[url="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/19129-ZZorange-1-S2-1-2701690-ZZSzteto-1-S2-1-666463?highlight=2701690"][COLOR="#FF0000"][U]Cheating/Skyping/Gamethrow/Griefing[/U][/COLOR][/url] (2013, [COLOR="#FF0000"]BLx2[/COLOR]),
[url="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/19560-ZZorange-1-S2-1-2701690-Nebual-1-S2-1-3417308?p=327154&highlight=2701690#post327154"][COLOR="#FF0000"][U]Skyping[/U][/COLOR][/url] (2013, [COLOR="#FF0000"]Permabanned[/COLOR]),
[url="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/19562-ZZorange-1-S2-1-2701690-Nebual-1-S2-1-3417308?highlight=2701690"][COLOR="#FF0000"][U]Cheating/Skyping[/U][/COLOR][/url](2013, [COLOR="#FF0000"]Already Permabanned[/COLOR])

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pending approved reactionary gamethrow [url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/48756-ZZorange-1-S2-1-2701690?highlight=2701690[/url]
pending approved griefing [url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/48769-ZZorange-1-S2-1-2701690?highlight=2701690[/url]

[COLOR=#304FFE][B][U]Recommended Action[/U][/B][/COLOR]
Permaban.[/quote]

On June 8, 2021, [url="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/11-Mafia-Discussion"]ZZOrange wrote a thread saying goodbye to the entire SC2 Community.[/url] Everyone thought this was going to be the last we would ever see of him/her given how they resigned to the admins' decisions after so many offenses that were deemed unappealable.

However, as of [url="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/9674-ZZorange"]July 16, 2021, ZZOrange continues to participate in these forums.[/url] I believe this is a gross violation of personal honour and respect to the overall community. Specifically that when you say goodbye to people and you awkwardly still stick around. This is not only very socially problematic, but also because these forums also function as a medium for SC2 Mafia arcade players too. How can he actually be saying goodbye when these same players can still be in accessible contact with the accused?

Therefore, I strongly urge the admins to act on their professional obligation to see that this permabanned person's farewell is honoured and is permanently banned. By doing so can he/she fulfill their original purpose of their farewell posts. As I've said before, when ZZOrange leaves permanently (including future iterations), then I will also honour a promise to the community and leave also. May I remind them that there is no obligation protecting this person for ending the fun of many games due to being a pseudointellectual troll.

Until this justice can be delivered, I'll be posting every day in protest to serve as a reminder to permanently ban ZZOrange. It's not about the problem anymore, it's about the principle of things. Thank you for reading and I hope the admins will see my point of view and set things right.

Sincerely,

Hentai Man Of Peace

PS: to get things started, here is an accurate video of me subjecting myself to this torture protest just to get ZZOrange banned:

[URL="https://youtu.be/NWsgBqNuVEk?t=3"]https://youtu.be/NWsgBqNuVEk?t=3[/URL]

Friends,

Unfortunately, I have to reveal to you a disgusting egregious crime that is perpetuated by the admins and the ringleader they shill to, ZZOrange.

On June 5, 2021, 2Blue submitted the final report that would eventually lead to ZZOrange's ban the next day by both aamirus and Arrow the next day. This is not the first crime of his history as aamirus has summarized here:

Previous Offenses
Griefing (May 2021, Permaban - Appealed)

BL X4 (feb 2021)
Intentional Gamethrowing

BLx2 appealed to a WLx3 (late January 2021)
Intentional Gamethrowing/Griefing

Gamethrowing (2011, KickVote),
Skyping (2013, 2xKickVote),
Skyping/Cheating (2013, 4xKickVote),
Cheating/Skyping/Gamethrow/Griefing (2013, BLx2),
Skyping (2013, Permabanned),
Cheating/Skyping(2013, Already Permabanned)

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pending approved reactionary gamethrow https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...hlight=2701690
pending approved griefing https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...hlight=2701690

Recommended Action
Permaban.

On June 8, 2021, ZZOrange wrote a thread saying goodbye to the entire SC2 Community. Everyone thought this was going to be the last we would ever see of him/her given how they resigned to the admins' decisions after so many offenses that were deemed unappealable.

However, as of July 16, 2021, ZZOrange continues to participate in these forums. I believe this is a gross violation of personal honour and respect to the overall community. Specifically that when you say goodbye to people and you awkwardly still stick around. This is not only very socially problematic, but also because these forums also function as a medium for SC2 Mafia arcade players too. How can he actually be saying goodbye when these same players can still be in accessible contact with the accused?

Therefore, I strongly urge the admins to act on their professional obligation to see that this permabanned person's farewell is honoured and is permanently banned. By doing so can he/she fulfill their original purpose of their farewell posts. As I've said before, when ZZOrange leaves permanently (including future iterations), then I will also honour a promise to the community and leave also. May I remind them that there is no obligation protecting this person for ending the fun of many games due to being a pseudointellectual troll.

Until this justice can be delivered, I'll be posting every day in protest to serve as a reminder to permanently ban ZZOrange. It's not about the problem anymore, it's about the principle of things. Thank you for reading and I hope the admins will see my point of view and set things right.

Sincerely,

Hentai Man Of Peace

PS: to get things started, here is an accurate video of me subjecting myself to this torture protest just to get ZZOrange banned:

https://youtu.be/NWsgBqNuVEk?t=3