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[QUOTE=deathworlds;963858]We got some statistics that indicate that "the current userbase is predominately edgy and tolerant of off-color speech" is wrong.
[URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/48882-A-Statistical-Analysis-of-Racism-Across-10-790-Replays"]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/48882-A-Statistical-Analysis-of-Racism-Across-10-790-Replays[/URL]
If we "alienate" 1-5% of the player base who contribute to almost the entirety of "off-color speech", than good riddance to bad apples.[/QUOTE]

NOOOO YOU CANT CRACK DOWN ON THE THINGS THAT I DO, WHAT ABOUT ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ALSO DO THE THINGS THAT I DO?>>?>>

What do you mean it's just me?

Originally Posted by deathworlds

We got some statistics that indicate that "the current userbase is predominately edgy and tolerant of off-color speech" is wrong.
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...10-790-Replays
If we "alienate" 1-5% of the player base who contribute to almost the entirety of "off-color speech", than good riddance to bad apples.

NOOOO YOU CANT CRACK DOWN ON THE THINGS THAT I DO, WHAT ABOUT ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ALSO DO THE THINGS THAT I DO?>>?>>

What do you mean it's just me?

[QUOTE=one_asparagus;933017]Nah kids, Sorry this is my first account here. I deal with spamming flaming racist and homophobic rhetoric every time I play mafia in SC2 arcade. I finally decided to make an account to report the repeat offenders but it turns out this is just an echo chamber for your insecurities. Sad man I don't see why the need to get a rise out of people is considered humor here. It's mind boggling that there is literally a post 4 pages long with you all going back and forth about anti semanticist rhetoric and why it should be allowed. I think Blizzard would raise an eyebrow at this community if they gave a shit about this dead game, but lucky for your vultures it's prime ground to escape from public silences and bans that they offer. It's not free speech at the level you guys cherish, it's literally shock factor humor at best.

Call me salty, call me bad, pull out all the stops guys. I literally created this account to record and report your lack of basic human decency and literal hate speech. IP ban away! The first post I read was a 4 page thread about why it's OK to bash Jews. Next time I play with one of you I will be uploading saves and building cases. Learn to not get your energy from your constant and effortless trashy spam, and maybe try to communicate properly so we can all have fun and play the game like humans.

EDIT: Stealthbomber: The fact that I am not the only one saying this and you immediately ask for a ban speaks fucking volumes kiddo. Seriously... Unlike you I've never been banned, I got a warning back in the day because of d/c issues (satellite internet back then) so I got reported for role-quitting. Which was fair... I had crappy service and ruined games. The least I can do is post reports where this community's lack of ethics ruins matches.[/QUOTE]

There are volumes of threads right now that have explained and demonstrated that these racist players are the increasingly shrinking minority.

I've been here for 6 years. 3 weeks ago was the first time someone went on the forums and complained about it in those 6 years. You're the second one. It's funny that you think I've been banned since my rank is literally retired staff.

EDIT: This thread is 4 pages of an entire community bashing on a clown who recently was punished for racist remarks about jews and thought it wasn't deserved. You're not only bad at acting... you're also bad at reading too!

Originally Posted by one_asparagus

Nah kids, Sorry this is my first account here. I deal with spamming flaming racist and homophobic rhetoric every time I play mafia in SC2 arcade. I finally decided to make an account to report the repeat offenders but it turns out this is just an echo chamber for your insecurities. Sad man I don't see why the need to get a rise out of people is considered humor here. It's mind boggling that there is literally a post 4 pages long with you all going back and forth about anti semanticist rhetoric and why it should be allowed. I think Blizzard would raise an eyebrow at this community if they gave a shit about this dead game, but lucky for your vultures it's prime ground to escape from public silences and bans that they offer. It's not free speech at the level you guys cherish, it's literally shock factor humor at best.

Call me salty, call me bad, pull out all the stops guys. I literally created this account to record and report your lack of basic human decency and literal hate speech. IP ban away! The first post I read was a 4 page thread about why it's OK to bash Jews. Next time I play with one of you I will be uploading saves and building cases. Learn to not get your energy from your constant and effortless trashy spam, and maybe try to communicate properly so we can all have fun and play the game like humans.

EDIT: Stealthbomber: The fact that I am not the only one saying this and you immediately ask for a ban speaks fucking volumes kiddo. Seriously... Unlike you I've never been banned, I got a warning back in the day because of d/c issues (satellite internet back then) so I got reported for role-quitting. Which was fair... I had crappy service and ruined games. The least I can do is post reports where this community's lack of ethics ruins matches.

There are volumes of threads right now that have explained and demonstrated that these racist players are the increasingly shrinking minority.

I've been here for 6 years. 3 weeks ago was the first time someone went on the forums and complained about it in those 6 years. You're the second one. It's funny that you think I've been banned since my rank is literally retired staff.

EDIT: This thread is 4 pages of an entire community bashing on a clown who recently was punished for racist remarks about jews and thought it wasn't deserved. You're not only bad at acting... you're also bad at reading too!

[QUOTE=Voss;932422]is that guy being sarcastic?[/QUOTE]

99% sure that this guy is an alt of someone on the banlist

Originally Posted by Voss

is that guy being sarcastic?

99% sure that this guy is an alt of someone on the banlist

[QUOTE=one_asparagus;932274]4 pages defending why its ok to be a racist homophobe troll who ruins matches..... You all need help. I don't play this arcade map anymore because your community is absolute horse shit, you all have no sense and circle jerk the same racist bullshit spam EVERY game. Pathetic... No one with any sense plays Mafia anymore because of your player base's inability to be normal fucking human beings.[/QUOTE]

why is this guy not IP banned yet isnt this like his 6th account

Originally Posted by one_asparagus

4 pages defending why its ok to be a racist homophobe troll who ruins matches..... You all need help. I don't play this arcade map anymore because your community is absolute horse shit, you all have no sense and circle jerk the same racist bullshit spam EVERY game. Pathetic... No one with any sense plays Mafia anymore because of your player base's inability to be normal fucking human beings.

why is this guy not IP banned yet isnt this like his 6th account

[QUOTE=Voss;932045]I'm personally having a blast here.[/QUOTE]

It’s like watching a car crash.

I hope this thread comes up if this guy is reported again. Whoever processes it PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE keep these incredible posts in mind.

Originally Posted by Voss

I'm personally having a blast here.

It’s like watching a car crash.

I hope this thread comes up if this guy is reported again. Whoever processes it PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE keep these incredible posts in mind.

“My ability to name myself money grubbing jew should be protected.”

I know you think you’re a troll but you really only look stupid dude. Trolls typically make people mad. You’re just making people laugh at you.

“My ability to name myself money grubbing jew should be protected.”

I know you think you’re a troll but you really only look stupid dude. Trolls typically make people mad. You’re just making people laugh at you.

[QUOTE=Veliaire;932027]Did you learn that from CNN?[/QUOTE]

Did I learn that racism is bad from CNN? Is that the question?

I think this is where the thread can end. If your response to someone saying racism is bad is to call them a liberal then you should probably go outside. And get a friend. In real life.

Originally Posted by Veliaire

Did you learn that from CNN?

Did I learn that racism is bad from CNN? Is that the question?

I think this is where the thread can end. If your response to someone saying racism is bad is to call them a liberal then you should probably go outside. And get a friend. In real life.

[QUOTE=Veliaire;932025]No private entity is a protected realm of free speech. You are missing the point entirely. The entirety of the internet is owned by private companies. There is no place you can go online that isn't owned by someone. However, the internet is how people communicate.. and when you have thousands of different people telling you what you are and are not allowed to say, that has a negative impact on society as a whole.[/QUOTE]

I’m pretty sure it’s almost universally accepted that you shouldn’t be a racist asshole. Both online and offline.

Originally Posted by Veliaire

No private entity is a protected realm of free speech. You are missing the point entirely. The entirety of the internet is owned by private companies. There is no place you can go online that isn't owned by someone. However, the internet is how people communicate.. and when you have thousands of different people telling you what you are and are not allowed to say, that has a negative impact on society as a whole.

I’m pretty sure it’s almost universally accepted that you shouldn’t be a racist asshole. Both online and offline.

[MENTION=31836]Veliaire[/MENTION]

Not only is your argument about “where do we draw the line” completely irrelevant, it’s also well-documented as a poor argument.

From wikipedia
[QUOTE] The fallacious sense of "slippery slope" is often used synonymously with continuum fallacy, in that it ignores the possibility of middle ground and assumes a discrete transition from category A to category B. In this sense it constitutes an informal fallacy. In a non-fallacious sense, including use as a legal principle, a middle-ground possibility is acknowledged, and reasoning is provided for the likelihood of the predicted outcome. Other idioms for the slippery slope argument are the thin end/edge of the wedge, the camel's nose in the tent, or If You Give a Mouse a Cookie.[/QUOTE]

You are completely ignoring the actual realm of reality here, where the mod team just removes players that are egregiously racist… then stops. There’s zero room to draw parallels anywhere else.

@Veliaire

Not only is your argument about “where do we draw the line” completely irrelevant, it’s also well-documented as a poor argument.

From wikipedia

The fallacious sense of "slippery slope" is often used synonymously with continuum fallacy, in that it ignores the possibility of middle ground and assumes a discrete transition from category A to category B. In this sense it constitutes an informal fallacy. In a non-fallacious sense, including use as a legal principle, a middle-ground possibility is acknowledged, and reasoning is provided for the likelihood of the predicted outcome. Other idioms for the slippery slope argument are the thin end/edge of the wedge, the camel's nose in the tent, or If You Give a Mouse a Cookie.

You are completely ignoring the actual realm of reality here, where the mod team just removes players that are egregiously racist… then stops. There’s zero room to draw parallels anywhere else.

Virgin Voss with facts and logic vs CHAD Veliaire unironically dropping the slippery slope fallacy.

I can personally attest to not playing mafia because of the constant racism from the player base. Throughout my time in sc2 I’ve also found many players who have also stopped due to the racism, mostly from playing Cortex with them.

When you eat at a restaurant and the food is bad, you don’t come back. You don’t talk to employees or the management about how the food sucked or whatever. You don’t try and fix the food. You just don’t come back. Have you considered for a moment that there may be a cause and effect link between the fact that lobbies take forever to fill up and the fact that there’s a very vocal minority in the community (and it is well established at this point that you are in a minority) that is actively spamming racist messages and dragging the quality of games down?

Edit: Voss that last post was cringe maybe dont suggest that staff could ban people for voting them

Virgin Voss with facts and logic vs CHAD Veliaire unironically dropping the slippery slope fallacy.

I can personally attest to not playing mafia because of the constant racism from the player base. Throughout my time in sc2 I’ve also found many players who have also stopped due to the racism, mostly from playing Cortex with them.

When you eat at a restaurant and the food is bad, you don’t come back. You don’t talk to employees or the management about how the food sucked or whatever. You don’t try and fix the food. You just don’t come back. Have you considered for a moment that there may be a cause and effect link between the fact that lobbies take forever to fill up and the fact that there’s a very vocal minority in the community (and it is well established at this point that you are in a minority) that is actively spamming racist messages and dragging the quality of games down?

Edit: Voss that last post was cringe maybe dont suggest that staff could ban people for voting them