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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Wait, that was it?

    Like there wasn't more text to the statement?
    lmfao yes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    https://web.archive.org/web/20210925...-wxnvnq2xcu766

    Looks like there's a snapshot of it, but I don't think it is complete.
    Nah that's exactly what he/they posted. Short excited, but jumped-the-gun falsehoods.
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    Lmfao. What a humongus fuckin idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregl View Post
    I envision a feature where you can "haunt" your killer with a message from the "beyond." It sucks dying on the first night, no?
    so, haunting means sending one message to your killer. when can you start writing the message and when can you stop editing it before it has to be submitted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plotato View Post
    fantastic news only that we already knew last year so much for beating the dead horse
    It's different than having an actual investigation show that there were these massive election irregularities in Arizona. I wonder if they go to the Supreme Court now.
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    The CEO even said that "23,344 people voted when they should no longer have access, or would not normally have access" to voting in Maricopa County because they have moved."

    That's definitely more than the amount that President Trump supposedly lost by

    https://ballotpedia.org/Arizona_election_results,_2020

    "There were 9,041 mail-in voters who were mailed one ballot but somehow two ballots were received, which I do not know how you would have one ballot sent and two received."

    Also within the margin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    Yeah.. I can't take anything serious that's related to that name. That name has been a constant source for comedians, and the like, of ridicule and mockery far too long for that.

    Though I do like the successful economic war against China during his presidency. But that's about it.
    It's legitimately his actual website and not satire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    Looking at just the name of the site, I assume this is satire?
    No, it's the official website of the President.
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    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-zg5wwdwghx767
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    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-wxnvnq2xcu766

    Wtf. Didn't know the Arizona audit would show the election was stolen. This is huge. America needs to do more to make sure bad actors aren't voting in our elections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    What would non excessive trolling look like in a serious discussion or debate?

    Also, same question for non severe, but intentional thread derailing?

    Lastly, what's your opinion on posting obviously off topic or spam? Do they fall under any of the above rules?
    Oh, thread spam is part of site rules. Should infractions be higher in serious discussion or nah
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    What would non excessive trolling look like in a serious discussion or debate?

    Also, same question for non severe, but intentional thread derailing?

    Lastly, what's your opinion on posting obviously off topic or spam? Do they fall under any of the above rules?
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    Thread:covid 19 vaccine

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    I admit, if my mom died from the vaccine, i'd probably find it hard to advocate getting the vaccine, but (barring something genetic), I should still try and remember death from covid is orders of magnitude more likely.

    That's hypothetical me fighting confirmation bias, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    Don't you think it'd have been slightly better of you to ask for circumstances before making any presumptions?
    Like, I don't think there'd be any confirmation bias involved if he was rushed to hospital right after the injection. I don't know the full story. But these presumptions I'm hearing here of "evil deliberate scare tactics" or proclaiming confirmation bias before knowing any of the circumstances - they're worrying to see for me.
    I genuinely thought saying something is confirmation bias is nicer than scare tactics, bc the latter implies something sinister.
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    isn't it?
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    I think the better word is confirmation bias, Renegade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    That was my concern, among others.
    You make it sound like my individual concerns reflect that of everyone.

    I'm fairly certain that the most popular concern against the vaccines around the world is people seeing more and heavier side effects from them as they should from published statistics.

    There's a little bit of double standard in that regard on the web, as I see it. On the one hand - seemingly everything has been linked to long term effects of the virus and it needs more testing/research/studies. On the other hand - don't worry about the possible vaccine side effects, as disastrous as some of the cases it might be, because they're rare, no need for more research.

    Some people knowing personally more cases of bad side effects than should be statistically likely might make for an anecdotal case, as that's not how statistics work. And it doesn't help that so many rely on "I heard of that one guy who personally knows x cases of y side effect". But I see it as a perfectly human reason for concern.
    I will repeat that if one's qualms for taking the vaccine are primarily the length of time it's been around, they should be equally hesitant of "new" technologies such as cars or even new generation cell phones. It is true that the virus has been around only for a year and a half (almost 2?) and we don't know a lot about it, but mRNA technology is not new at all.



    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    Btw, SB16, here in my country - teachers are (technically not for a few months still) forced to vaccinate to be allowed to work as teachers. And even without that, the amount of restrictions people have if not vaccinated makes for a bad case for "you've a choice".
    That teacher thing is weird tbh. Because children are not a risk group, while on the other hand doctors, who're in contact with risk groups daily, are not mandated to get vaccinated. :/
    Ozy, are your doctors private sector workers, and the teachers public sector workers? That could explain why the mandate exists for teachers and not doctors. Also, isn't it "whataboutism" to say that teachers shouldn't be vaccinated because doctors don't have a mandate?
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    I'd love to hear how those two equivalencies are false though.
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    I think it was already mentioned in the thread that having concern about getting the vaccine due to how long its been out is related to the following points.

    - the flu vaccine is also redone every year
    - the technology behind the vaccine is not one year old. Having a concerns out this is similar to someone having concerns about getting into a 2021 honda odyssey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    I also find it funny people use such terms as antivaxxer to describe those reticent about the vaccine. The COVID vaccine is not like other vaccines, for 3 big reasons. Many people are in doubt over the lethality of COVID so telling them to get the vaccine for something that is fairly benign is a bit much, it offers little advantage (and also little risk but from their perspective the risk is unnecessary). Second, it is actually abusive to force people to get vaccinated, and illegal. And immoral. Funnily all these people are probably thr same crowd who would be very pro-abortion but the second an old white man tells them what to do with their bodies they jump right along. My body = your choice? If you believe that people shoild be pressured into getting vaccinatrd (which doesnt really make sense, as the vaccine is not inoculating), then make that your motto! LOL

    Third, unlike other vaccines which have a decade or more of research behind them, the COVID vaccine is a year old. Not sure whoís the Ďantivaxxerí here in terms of thinking ability.
    Vaccine mandates and abortions are a false equivalency and a Faux News talking point. And I'm pretty sure we can talk about vaccines without expanding the scope into abortions.

    But I'm not surprised. Reminds me of the time you started ranting about climate change when we were talking about riots and protests. Typical Oberon tactic to change the subject when they debate gets tough. Is this the point where we start talking about Texas and guns and maybe George Floyd?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    I guess the other alternatives here would be to do nothing and let fake interpretations grow here, or close the thread immediately? Are those or any other alternatives better?
    err close the thread immediately when the content veers off topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    Are you actually concerned anyone on the site would be swayed by mag's posts tho? Conversely, can you name a single republican/conservative leaning person on the site who reads these threads and has their mind changed after seeing mag's points dismantled? I really struggle to see the positive utility to this discussion, on a political level.
    I guess the other alternatives here would be to do nothing and let fake interpretations grow here, or close the thread immediately? Are those or any other alternatives better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oops_ur_dead View Post
    Warning: By his own admission, Oberon purposefully does not read, evaluate, nor think critically about any opinion he disagrees with, and in fact, he often does not even read or evaluate his own sources. When discussing matters of politics with him, it is safe to assume anything he posts is a falsehood unless evaluated independently by yourself or another person. Any discussion with him will end in an intellectual black hole, as he will refuse to consider other viewpoints and ignore your posts, and never admit that anything he has posted is wrong even if proven so. Tread carefully.
    I'm seriously considering making this my signature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    It's interesting that you spontaneously think my post was about you :P. You're far from being the only culprit here. But if the hat fits...

    For the record, I too wonder where the heck Mag is getting his data from lol. But you all are trying to prove eachother wrong instead of simply seeking truth and trying to prove your point constructively (now you'll say that in your case it's legitimate because he's the one bringing in weird data and interpretations, but you also did before the weird data). It's not healthy, it's not fun, and it's not useful. Like, there's no reason to carry on.

    And Ozy, I wasn't saying debate is bad at all. I was saying this was not debate, but rather what could be colloquially described as shit flinging. I'm a big fan of the former, but deeply dislike the latter.
    The things you are referring to as "shit flinging" happened after someone tried to derail the thread with implications of a voodoo fake numbers conspiracy. Which was not what the original thread was about.

    It'd have been much more tactical and pragmatic for Oberon to present the findings first and say hey, I'm confused as to why the numbers are changing/inconsistent/not following logical trends. Instead he lead with "THE LEFT IS COMMITTING TERRIBLE HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS", which is super antagonistic and not debate friendly. And now it seems you're surprised and disappointed that it has turned into a "shit flinging" where everyone is trying to disprove everyone (but you really mean Oberon here). Although you really shouldn't be.

    One really shouldn't try to approach serious debates like a mafia game. There's no need to be antagonizing or reaction testing or to try and convince people to do something. Proper constructive debates would be more productive if you read the room you're dealing with, try to see where your stance is, where their stance is, and find the fundamental differences as to why you disagree.

    Oberon has said many many times he's so proud to be antagonizing ("that's just my personality"), proud to not read other people's sources in a topic, nor his own. This is not good faith debating, and you defending everyone does not contribute to that environment that you (and I) seek/wish to have here.

    I really prefer Ozy's way of approaching and talking about these more taboo positions and topics. He genuinely seems to be interested in other people's opinions and asks questions. I don't really mind that there isn't the follow through as I like to think all parties in the discussion have gained something valuable from the exchange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    The point of an argument like this isnít to change the individuals mind but to provide a theatre for people who maybe arenít so sure or havenít done the research.
    It'd be nice to have just some sort of copy/paste block showing that Oberon doesn't read and shouldn't be taken seriously. Kind of hard to do that from this thread because there are so many blocks of content.

    Then again, eventually someone could point to that block and call it stale.
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    It's sad that y'all have to expel so much effort to, point by point, deconstruct someone's argument; this individual being someone that has shown multiple times to wade into an argument refusing to even read sources let alone understand them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Moving this thread to circle jerk when a serious discussion is ongoing, and... the only one trolling was actually you with that half-assed comment about bashing libtards? LOL
    So you are saying that covid deaths are fake?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    I guess I'm just assuming, reading between the lines of "And hereís what your precious little vaccine has done" kind of stuff.

    But I haven't seen anything explicit.

    Fake news!
    nah, i think he's trying to imply that covid deaths are fake news, which is something some of my family members say.

    i feel bad about moving this thread to circle jerk though, even though it's just one guy ruining the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    You know what's funny, is that I totally expected Oberon to be an anti vaxxer.

    Vaccines are political now, it is sad.
    I haven't seen him post about advocating to not get the vaccine, but if you do, let staff know so it can be deleted.

    Unfortunately, we do allow blatant misrepresentation of arithmetic.
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    What would we do without oops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    As opposed to the egregious abuse of human rights thatís been going on for the past 2 years, in the form of lockdowns, curfews, and forcing people to get vaccinated you mean? But I forget socialists care not for rights but for money.
    Ah yes, we missed the bashing of the libtards. Glad someone's here to be the literal authority on human rights violations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Itís somewhat beside the point if the ban was according to their rules or not. If their rule states that a dude can be banned for saying that then their rule is retarded. This is not a government, itís just an online community centered around a game. It does not need to be managed strictly anymore than youíd manage a group of friends strictly.
    I would express agreement in Helz getting banned, but only if it followed their own rules. Exactly because they are not the government, they should be even more free to allow or disallow content based on whatever standards they so choose. Anything less than that would be a violation of MU's right to free speech.
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    https://law.justia.com/cases/federal...161/527808/39/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post


    Well Since Someone I Wont Mention Any Names... Wants Bring Politics And MSM Into The Chat..

    i got it from random.org
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    it wasn't me, but when we have people advocating for violence, it does become a less serious thread.
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    "lacking a definite plan, purpose, or pattern"

    Maybe I'm just really good at finding patterns, but these posts don't seem random to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    Im Not Here Trying To Offend Anyone.. Im Just Posting Random Bull Shit I Find On The Internet.. Anyone That Does Get Offended Thats Completely On Them.. Im Just Chilling Here Minding My Own Business.. So Far As I Know Im Not Interacting With Anyone In This Thread Unless Directly Talked To.. Such As Ur Doing Now..
    what's your definition of random, and why are you so fixated on something being offensive or not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post


    To Post This..
    It doesn't offend me though. But now it seems like you're trying to offend libtards for no other reason than for the sake of offending. So why are you doing it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    If I Was In That Position.. I Would Have Simply Responded With This Isn't California This Is Texas And Punched Him In The Nose.. Then Walked Away.. He Deserved That At The Very Least Since He Used A Whip Against Your Friends Dog..
    Preach. We all know that violence is what the American forefathers had in mind when one person moves into another state.
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    why would you post this drivel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotPaopan View Post
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    The US in cahoots with ISIS is a good start. You can connect the dots after that.
    The fact that you're unable to provide any sort of external links to support your conspiracy theories makes me think that maybe there is none.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotPaopan View Post
    It is! After the US negotiated with the ISIS-K and staged a bomb attack on Kabul to keep the money flowing. Aftermath includes Taliban gonna get mad. Biden showing some "force". Win-win for them.

    +1.6% increase of defence budget. Corruption at its finest.
    Can you give me evidence for this? I'm stupid and can't use google effectively. My search terms were "us kabul staged bomb attack secret deal" and "us isis-k negotiation".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    My point had less to do with overall government policy among all the countries in the world and more specifically with "all brown people are terrorists"

    "We donít know. We just learned, for example, that at least 100 of the refugees U.S. military has flown out of Kabul Ė people weíre told are heroes Ė are in fact on terror watch lists. One man we evacuated apparently works for ISIS. Today, an Afghan interpreter told Fox News that this kind of thing is happening constantly. People are getting on planes in Kabul without any proof of identification whatsoever. Itís like voting in California:

    Interpreter Carl, Aug. 27: I know people that are in the same situation as I am right now. They have fought for the United States, they have provided supplies for the United States. But guess what? There are people that are getting inside the airport that have never worked, they knew somebody with a green card or they know somebody with a passport, thatís how they got through inside. I know people that are inside but they never worked.
    "

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tuck...fghan-refugees
    hi marsh

    again, this is what I meant by racist and unpatriotic.
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    Thread:Withdrawal from Afghanistan

    Thread Author:yzb25

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    ►►Re: Withdrawal from Afghanistan◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by NotPaopan View Post
    It is! After the US negotiated with the ISIS-K and staged a bomb attack on Kabul to keep the money flowing. Aftermath includes Taliban gonna get mad. Biden showing some "force". Win-win for them.

    +1.6% increase of defence budget. Corruption at its finest.
    Do you have evidence of the negotiation?
  49. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Withdrawal from Afghanistan

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotPaopan View Post
    I'm no expert but sending an attack drone to kill some civilians and cause havoc doesn't seem like a withdrawal.
    I didn't know the mission was to kill civilians! /s
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