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    ►►Re: Should the Bible be taken literally?◄◄

    Following this logic ladder I think I can say Abortions are objectively good because they send the fetuses to heaven before they have a chance to lose out on salvation during life! I mean helping others get to heaven sounds like a good thing. So if you are already doomed to hell for your sins, the best way you can help your fellow man is by killing as many babies as you can find before they do something that would get them sent to hell!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    You make a lot of valid points. The Blind are they at fault for walking passed someone passed out on the ground and not helping them? No they are not. The same goes for salvation. Jesus charged us with a task to go out and spread the word. In your case you are not blind, but it is your choice to accept Jesus into your heart or not. The Bible teaches man kind to help out one another.
    alright so again I am curious where the cutoff point is. If I've never heard of jesus then I'm fine. But what if I've just heard his name but that's it? Or just a couple of stories about him? or a lot about him but not the rest of the bible? etc.

    And isn't it kind of paradoxical that if nobody ever teaches me about jesus, then I am good to go, but as soon as they tell me about him I have to believe or I'm screwed? Like, missionary work is essentially cruel then because you're taking salvation AWAY from people.
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    Like out of curiosity are these islanders all going to hell even though they dont know of Christianity? Do you consider this guy a hero? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Allen_Chau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I get that. I do believe in God you do not. That is your right. But I respect you because you talk with Intelligence. You try to submit facts not BS. I still think we are on a similar page. Unless you do not agree with what you have already posted. I do not believe that is the case here.

    Now on to the punish. that goes into the Salvation is not achieved by works alone. It is a matter of faith.
    So why didnt Jesus show up earlier? And why did he only show up in one part of the world? It seems pretty unfair, for example, that native Americans should have to burn in hell for another 1500 years before they even get exposed to Christianity.

    I think a possible answer will be that those who were never exposed to gods word are exempted from needing to believe, but this leads to a followup question: what counts as me being exposed enough? I mean if a missionary that cant even speak my language just hands me a Bible that I dont know how to read, would that be enough? So now I go to hell for poor linguistic skills?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Easy Thru Prayer. I used to be a hard core Anti Bible person. I would laugh when others gave me this exact same answer. But until I truly stopped fighting and accepted God and just sat and talked to him a lot of the Fog went away and clarity came. the answers are always in the word of God. It is the crazy religions people trying to control others mis-using Gods word to further there own wants and needs that have dissuaded people into not following Gods word.
    can you describe what hearing God's word is like? i assume it's not like hearing morgan freeman randomly start talking inside your head?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    are themselves BS
    to clarify: since they are essentially just the product of greedy/power-hungry humans using the idea of God to give themselves power over others
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    True, You can. But then if you try and make God's word what you want it to mean are you truly Reading it? Is it not to read something, Read it in the way it was Written? (The way the Author (in this case God) Wrote it)
    okay but how do we know what God meant? You say read it in the way it was written by God but since it's just transcribed and translated and interpreted by humans, how can we actually do that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    to play devil's advocate though, christianity is one of the dominant religions today specifically because of the two things you're complaining about. Because of popes, archbishops, kings, emperors, etc. pushing it for the sake of "god has given us the right to rule, so therefore all you peasants must listen to us, and if you don't you're a heretic and will be burned!"
    i mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Alexander_VI and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_VIII
    should be enough for anybody to see that these religious leaders are a farce.

    (the first one bribed and murdered his way to the papacy and the 2nd one created the anglican church just so he could divorce his wife cuz he wanted a male heir)... both are considered to be divine rulers by their respective christian sects

    for me that seems like it should be enough for anybody to see organized religion itself as a farce. Not to say that there is no god or higher power, but just that the myriad of organized religions we have are themselves BS



    ok rant aside, for anybody who is a roman catholic specifically, i'd be curious how it's possible to believe the pope is god's chosen speaker whilst also acknowledging that historically most of the popes are SERIOUS sinners
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post

    It's those that abuse their position and abuse the books to twist them for their own selfish desire that I have issues with. Also those who try to force their beliefs on others.
    to play devil's advocate though, christianity is one of the dominant religions today specifically because of the two things you're complaining about. Because of popes, archbishops, kings, emperors, etc. pushing it for the sake of "god has given us the right to rule, so therefore all you peasants must listen to us, and if you don't you're a heretic and will be burned!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    But people fail to truly read it.
    let's ignore the bible and just examine this statement. What is it supposed to mean? Can't I say this about almost any text and then try to argue that it (that text) means whatever I want it to mean?
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    Thread:SC2Mafia MVP Contest: 2020 Edition

    Thread Author:aamirus

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    Sticky: ►►Re: SC2Mafia MVP Contest: 2020 Edition◄◄

    closed for judging
  13. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:FUCK TWITTER!!!

    Thread Author:Donald J. Trump

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    ►►Re: FUCK TWITTER!!!◄◄

    like every loser hacker on sc2mafia, why doesn't donald just make himself a smurf account? Then he can play whackamole with the twitter mods
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I am not sure I understand what you mean. The election results were pretty blatant on December 4th.

    There were lots of protests arguing for stuff like 'Stop the Steal' and such. They actually started in early November but thats kind of erroneous given the subject of this thread.
    From the rioter's pov, trump didn't officially lose until the day of the riots when congress certified the votes
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    but for the capitol riots, the time since trump lost to them was 0 days. That was the whole point lol. Why would they bother rioting during all the time they believed trump had won?
  16. Forum:Circlejerk

    Thread:So many bots. So so many bots..

    Thread Author:OzyWho

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    ►►Re: So many bots. So so many bots..◄◄

    search engine spiders are on every site they can find
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    Thread:Fake Invisible Ink

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    ►►Re: Should Plurality lynch be as common as it is?◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    As far as the topic of this thread is concerned, plurality and condercet are both the same in the sense of mandatory lynch at EOD.

    Me personally I'm not a believer in condercet. As much as I'm not a fan of a 3 way tie with 2 votes on each at EoD1 - I'm not confident that condercet improves that scenario. If anything I think it's the opposite and is similar to yzb's voting system where the scum could vote each other if the numbers allow it - making it in my eyes even less informative than a 3 way tie EoD1 with just ~50% of votes present.
    i didn't mean condorcet. I think voss expressed interest in other kinds of new voting systems too
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    Thread:Notification when I quote another person

    Thread Author:Helz

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    ►►Re: Notification when I quote another person◄◄

    no notification

    it does show up in the quotes tab on the profile tho, so maybe you're seeing that and mistakenly assuming that's what the notification is referring to
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    Thread:Notification when I quote another person

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I never really thought about it until today but why do I get a quote notification when I quote someone else? Is that intentional?
    test
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    Thread:Website activity throughout the year

    Thread Author:OzyWho

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    ►►Re: Website activity throughout the year◄◄

    well it's not perfectly attuned to what you wanted but i guess this works
    https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/misc.php?do=vsatpomy
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    ►►Re: Should Plurality lynch be as common as it is?◄◄

    Ozy you should talk to @Voss he’s very interested in finding new voting systems that might be better than the existing/usual options
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    Thread:Does anyone play Go?

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    ►►Re: Does anyone play Go?◄◄

    How does connect 5 compare with connect 4? 🤪
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    Thread:Vacuum Cleaners

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    I just don’t understand why the standing variants are so much more popular. They are OBJECTIVELY worse. Like, more effort switching attachments/modes to reach hard to reach places, more effort to avoid getting the wire tangled, more effort to drag the damn thing around the house.. I just can’t think of one pro and yet somehow they’re so much more popular
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    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    I absolutely wouldn't be surprised of destructive riots if Trump won. I think anyone who tries to confidently argue there wouldn't have been is being pretty dishonest.
    I don’t see why losing to trump the 2nd time would be THAT much worse than losing the first time. So I can agree just like the first time there would be “not my President” marches everywhere but I just have a hard time believing in the violence conspiracy theories without evidence. I mean a key issue between left and right is guns and frankly the left just aren’t as in to guns.

    Now, anarchists who would have started shit no matter who won? That I can buy into as it just makes sense they’d try to ride the wave whatever the wave was.

    But nonetheless there’s a key difference here. Your trumpy voters felt right in their insurrection because they were convinced that the election was stolen from them. Can’t even really blame someone who thinks they are just defending their country right? But if trump had won, you would NOT have the majority of democrat voters thinking that they’d been swindled, cheated, etc. Maybe largely cuz Biden just wouldn’t be a little bitch like trump was. Would there be some salty fucks? Sure. But I still haven’t heard a reason why they would act significantly more violently than they did after Hillary lost
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    No. Not at all. You asked what the difference was between the Hillary loss and hypothetical Biden loss.
    My statement has nothing to do with the 'raid of the US capitol to stop democracy.'

    But yeah; I dont care for the media but from what I understand there was hardcore groups of people set up to riot if trump won. When people set up with firebombs and still use them after they win I would call that terrorism in favor of the democratic party.

    I think that Republicans will be worse in the coming years. But fuck off with your efforts to put words in my mouth. I have no problem crossing lines and being emphatically clear about it as I do it.
    Could you cite your source on firebombs and plan to revolt if Biden lost?
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    Thread:Reputation

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    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    Who on this site gives Reputation in order to send out anonymous sarcastic comments?
    I know it's either @SuperJack or @aamirus .


    Is it possible to view old Reputation comments without receiving a new one? I promise I can't find a way.
    I almost never give out rep unless someone gives it to me first, mainly because I forget it exists
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    Thread:Vacuum Cleaners

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    As an adult, I do adult things and get stupidly excited over trivial things.

    The most recent being a vacuum cleaner.
    My family have used Dyson for as long as I can remember.
    I always thought they where the best, and maybe at one point they where and all their adverts and marketing makes it seem like so.

    After moving to our own place we stuck with Dyson, either my mum's old one or buying a second hand one. We never gave it much thought.

    But now I'm even more adultman I've done a lot of Research, and I believe I've just fallen into the evil claws of marketings and aware of dysons dodgy attempts to twist the law to benifit them. since it's time for me to buy a new vacuum we've come to a new choise.

    The opinions and reviews all tend to point to Miele, also recommend to go bagged as that combination offers the best equipment. We also needed something more suitable for carpets and this is our result.

    https://www.miele.co.uk/e/cylinder-v...ef3-11085190-p



    Buying new and direct. I will let you know how the equipment is.

    Let us know your thoughts on vacuums and what you use for your home
    Yup dysons are terrible and the rollable vacuums with hose like in your picture are easily the best kind. Standing vacuums are terrible in comparison
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    Literal rioters with bombs and a 4 year international campaign generating hate as inequality
    So is the general defense of raiding the us capitol and LITERALLY trying to stop democracy that BLM was bad too? Hence democrats would have been same/worse! Because BLM = all of the Biden voters?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grayswandir View Post
    Oh now having read Helz’s post I understand why you mentioned the Trump reaction although Helz isn’t trying to convince himself the reaction in 2016 was ‘better’ than the Biden reaction, I read that as him saying the Bidenite riots if Trump had won would’ve been a lot worse than the Trumpite riot we had this month.
    Why would the Biden losing reaction be significantly worse than Hillary losing?
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    Helz not sure why youre using BLM 2020 to somehow convince yourself the Biden 2020 reaction is better than the trump 2016 reaction. An obvious false equivalency but whatever.

    Additionally, these people didnt just riot, they attempted to forcibly stop congress from certifying the election. And for awhile they SUCCEEDED!

    And the thread title is clearly sarcastic...
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    ►►Re: Game broken? no lobbies and error when creating one◄◄

    https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/sc...obby/19668/568

    Just have to wait.
  33. Forum:Circlejerk

    Thread:Incoming call

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    I've already watched this series in its entirety. It's wild.
    There are a bunch of videos of trolling them which are funny but I love this series because you actually get to see them in action
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    Thread:Incoming call

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Weve been trying to reach you concerning your vehicles extended warranty.
    https://youtu.be/le71yVPh4uk
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    Poll: ►►Re: Lists of past games in setup threads.◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    It's hard to say no to that, since it can't be bad once it's done. However, it may not be very useful. It is rather rarely needed to go dig into the Archive, and when it is needed, people just do it; that's what the search tool is for. That being said, if some good souls wish to include a list of iterations in their setup pages, they're free to do so. As you said, it's not much more than a slight inconvenience to do. It's just not something I'd put in the "priorities" list or in the "must do" one.
    Dont bother trying to populate old games but from now on it would be very low effort to do it for future games.
  36. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:National anthems

    Thread Author:Marshmallow Marshall

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    Dont lie mm you just made this thread as an excuse to listen to the North Korean anthem again
  37. Forum:Forum Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Cross Community Game

    Thread Author:Oberon

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    Actually mm I kind of think the niche our site has is letting people be somewhat rude. We have to draw the line somewhere but I think were one of the most lenient sites around and while that causes some people to leave, its also why our core base stays?
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    ►►Re: Should Panchira (Panty Shots) be considered porn?◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    This thread should honestly just be closed at this point imo
    Agreed, closed
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    ►►Re: Should Panchira (Panty Shots) be considered porn?◄◄

    So since I had to learn about panchira in this thread Ill link what I was unlucky to learn about last year:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebephilia

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

    While I think the first two are icky, pedo is a whole nuther level because there isnt a time youre supposed to be attracted to people that young.

    How did I learn this shit? Cuz someone who I called a pedo was super offended cuz hes just into teens not children...
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    ►►Re: Should Panchira (Panty Shots) be considered porn?◄◄

    Honestly I really didnt need to ever learn the term panchira and I hate that I now do
  41. Forum:Circlejerk

    Thread:I did a sex

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    ►►Re: I did a sex◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    how to get bregnant
    Pregante
  42. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Childhood stories.

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    ►►Re: Childhood stories.◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    Had countless places simply referred as "the spot". This is where we would smoke weed. Bush walk area, schools, motorbike track area, airport construction area, hill lookouts, and so on.


    I was a grade A gremlin of a kid tbh.
    At my high school we had two spots like that we would go to drink if there were no parentless houses available. Just like 50 feet off the road in the woods a little, we thought we were so adventurous lol
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    Thread:Anyone else have anxiety issues

    Thread Author:Oberon

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    ►►Re: Anyone else have anxiety issues◄◄

    One thing I discovered pretty late is how big of a deal hydration is. Some may scoff at this but I will say if youre not drinking at least 64oz of water a day, then dehydration might be a big part of the like, slumps where youre feeling down and dont want to do anything but not sure why. Anyway Ive learned if I start to feel that way to force myself to go glug some water and it hasnt failed me yet.
  44. Forum:Circlejerk

    Thread:my head cracked with hammer

    Thread Author:Bruno

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    youre being kinda mean guys lol. how would you feel if i went around spamming some dumb shit you said?
    is that what that quote spam is from? you said it in an fm?
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    ►►Re: Cancel culture and the weaponization of victimization◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    I think the issue here is you're regarding the entirety of the culture at once. I find aspects of christian and islamic culture deeply deplorable, but if, for whatever reason, I find myself in a church (making a delivery or smth who knows) and someone asks me to take my hat off, I won't thrust my finger into the air and declare it my right not to take my hand off because christian culture is unworthy of my respect. I will just take my hat off, and save the finger thrusting for when they try to take sex ed out of schools or what have you. My point is I think cultures are entitled to the same respect, on the condition the culture doesn't infringe your values. And in the latter case you just don't respect those aspects of the culture. You don't need to dismiss the culture entirely. Whether cultures are equal is irrelevant to this principle.



    Without sounding too dramatic, the US and Canada have been trying to eradicate and trivialize all aspects of Native American culture for 100s of years, because it is the stain at the core of their national identities and undermines the legitimacy of their nations. What they are gong through is the "denial" phase of their own genocides. Now, when ppl use the word genocide they imagine something quite extravagant. I don't mean it that way. There was no central mass murder of the Native Americans (though there were a few smaller ones). However, continual and deliberate eradication of a culture also falls under the definition of "genocide". Canada was forcing Native American kids to go to boarding schools where they'd be goaded by the teachers to reject their Native American identity up until the 80's (quite recent!). Native American sites and cultural features get trivialized or desecrated to undermine their importance (like carving the heads of presidents into Mt. Rushmore, which was a sacred site to some Natives), etc.

    I presume there are legitimate concerns this business with the "Washington Redskins" is an extension of that. afaik, this isn't the first time they've been asked to change the name. Even if you think it's absurd to view this as part of genocide denial, I return to the above point - this is also effectively refusing to take your hat off in church. It is not an infringement of your values to change the name, unless you think you truly believe you have a sacred, untouchable right to whatever name you please. If ppl's personal shit can be reasonably respected, then just do it.



    Meh, my views are probably the extreme ones. I presume most ppl would disagree with me. Maybe it should be discussed in a separate thread because it's only tangentially related to the original point. To keep it short, yes I hate the idea of employers having precedent to fire workers for their beliefs, even if only in extreme cases. And honestly, ppl can have some utterly batshit awful views of the world and still be otherwise agreeable / competent workers. We have to live with ppl together in a society, and while most of them at least fully acknowledge the holocaust (in our countries) they still hold some gross views that you're going to have to learn to cope with.
    I think you go too far. It's a tricky balancing act obviously - fire anybody who gives the slightest hint of bigotry and you're going too far in that direction. But don't fire anybody for their beliefs? Your workers reflect you and if you won't fire somebody who is openly blatantly bigoted then it implies you are okay with that, and you're going to pay the price by people rightfully boycotting you/your company. At the end of the day, money talks, and most people are replaceable, so if you out yourself as a bigot then you're gonna get shown the door. That's not even a morality thing, it's just good business.
  46. Forum:Circlejerk

    Thread:SC2Mafia Tells A Story: Chapter 2

    Thread Author:rumox

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    ►►Re: SC2Mafia Tells A Story: Chapter 2◄◄

    Once, twice, no, yes. Sorry, ass-eating is required. Unfathomable amounts of ass resides in storytelling. Marshmallow Marshall licks
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    Thread:SC2Mafia Tells A Story: Chapter 2

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    ►►Re: serious post: why do people hate furries so much?◄◄

    isn't that a false equivalency though? If you're not into bestiality and just do the furry thing for fun, then that's your choice. You don't choose to be black, female, gay, etc. Looking down on someone for their own choice is not the same as looking down on them for something they were born with.

    Now, if it's not a choice and you're legitimately sexually attracted to animals, a reason that I think it is similar to pedophilia is that most of those animals aren't exactly going to be able to give an informed consent...
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    ►►Re: Cancel culture and the weaponization of victimization◄◄

    cancel culture isn't new. It's just kind of shifted from the majority cancelling minorities to now the minorities cancelling the majority.

    I mean, having to fear getting "cancelled" by being accused of racism and then losing your job etc. as a white person is not a great thing, sure
    but it's not quite as bad as having to fear getting "cancelled" for having black skin and getting thrown into slavery.

    So, I would frame it in a positive light as at least we are making some "progress", right? Ideally the effects of cancelling keep getting smaller as time goes on, but I think it's disingenuous to frame it as a new thing that's recently gotten worse. It's gotten worse for some people but much better for others.
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