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    ►►Re: MC XPLICIT JEWISH DISS TRACK PT.1 "REVENGE OF THE GOYIM"◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    please refrain from using bad language in your assignments
    This was actually exactly how the professor described it too.

    I made a 100 on this paper.
  2. Forum:Closed Signups (S-FM)

    Thread:S-FM 354: Short Fuse

    Thread Author:Lumi

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    ►►Re: S-FM 354: Short Fuse◄◄

    You should credit American Flag Nightless as inspiration.

    /sign
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    [Ready for Review] ►►Re: S-FM America 2020 (15P)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Fix the State Prosecutor rolecard's quote tags

    What happens if the State Prosecutor gets his target convicted? Does he ascend to Heaven and leave the game? Or is he a kingmaker? (I advise against the latter)


    Did you have any ideas to fix the issues brought up during the last review while respecting your setup's spirit (see posts above)? Right now, scum do not have any incentive to act scummy.
    New idea that has not been brought up yet: What if the corrupt party needed to get more votes than the other one in order to win? It would make scum idleness suboptimal.
    Voting system has been reworked. There is now a traditional "lynch" that removes a player's ability to vote instead of outright killing them. If a presidential candidate is convicted, the game ends and that party loses. Scum now has to protect their president from the conviction, the other party has to protect their president from the conviction.

    I have (as of this post) made an adjustment to the setup to give the scum president one extra election vote per day that the town did not convict. This will force the town to find the scum and will force the scum to have to interact with the trains during the day. Because the vote is majority only, players will have to come to a consensus or risk scum getting too many extra votes.
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    [Ready for Review] ►►Re: S-FM America 2020 (15P)◄◄

    This setup is now ready for re-re-review.
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    ►►Re: is this how to sign up for the mode?◄◄

    theyre talking about the arcade not fm

    this is in the wrong category
  6. ►►Re: MU's Mafia Championship, Season 10 - Nominations (vote here!)◄◄

    I am not interested in playing in champs ✌️
  7. Forum:Closed Signups (S-FM)

    Thread:S-FM 348: Standoff

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    ►►Re: S-FM 348: Standoff◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by powerofdeath View Post
    are you ika?

    also /sign
    nope different person
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    ►►Re: An Update to Player Reports / Clarification◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by DJarJar View Post
    outdated quotes, arguments, etc.

    the repick system exists to let people repick shitty saves

    there is currently a glitch/exploit that lets host bypass the normal repick time to start their saves early (which you use).

    The solution is that frinckles will be patching the glitch soon
    isnt this malicious bug abuse which falls under griefing
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    ►►Re: Imagine going to Vegas for gambling◄◄

    Last edited by amieparson; February 23rd, 2023 at 10:24 AM.
    Tsk, unfortunate.
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    ►►Re: Imagine going to Vegas for gambling◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by DJarJar View Post
    im gonna go with the under
    good try
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    ►►Re: Imagine going to Vegas for gambling◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by DJarJar View Post
    @Stealthbomber16 over/under on the phishing link?
    feb 23
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    Thread:piss

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    ►►Re: Imagine going to Vegas for gambling◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Lottie Hobbs View Post
    Hi! Going to Vegas to gamble can be a fun, exciting experience. But if you don't live close enough to Vegas, the cost and hassle of travel might be too much to make a regular visit worthwhile.
    Thanks for sharing, Lottie!

    I'll check back on this post in a week and there surely will not be a phishing link!
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    ►►Re: The fast start glitch and ramming through griefer saves◄◄

    Not defending this exploit but if you want every game to be 9-3-3 or 8-4-2-1 you should be playing Town of Salem.
  15. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:...Yeah

    Thread Author:Apocist

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    ►►Re: ...Yeah◄◄

    happy new year
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    ►►Re: tis be that time of the year...◄◄

    Merry Christmas!
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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    I have no idea how you feel you can justify pinging the two town members to vote me. Thats literally openwolfing.
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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by ikarusdk View Post
    Could you explain the mechanic behind this please? Feel like this is important for me to understand
    As there are 5 people and two mafia left in the game, if one town votes another town, both of the mafia can coordinate to vote the other town at the same time to win the game.

    Both you and Trout have posted since my Mabel vote, which means you are not a team together. So, FMPOV, Mabel is now confirmed scum, and FYPOV either me or Mabel have to be scum now.
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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    Alright. Five minutes later, thread's still open. This is probably the right call then.
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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    Forget it. This feels like it's the only play today. I'm not certain whether the 2nd scum is Trout or ikarus anymore.

    -vote FM-Mabel Pines


    I am prepared to lose the game.
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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Mabel Pines View Post
    I think we're probably the most obvious antipairing of the game at this point after I campaigned to murderize you.
    I know. I agree. That's why I think it's funny to imagine.
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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    @ikarusdk

    What I'm not understanding about your logic is how it clears Mabel/Trout from being a scum team.
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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Mabel Pines View Post
    Why do you think that?
    Because imagine if it were true
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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by ikarusdk View Post
    I'll give you one reason why I am not scum.

    I've been arguing against lynching Oliver based on the fact that he was AWOL.

    At EoD, oli had two votes by trout and SB, trout by oli, SB by Mabel and Mabel by me.

    I admit I was panicking at EoD votes because I was on my phone and had 2 or 3 minutes after I voted Mabel. Mabel then helped me realise that if I don't want oli lynched and already suspecting it was either Mabel or SB, I should vote SB for a tie, randing the vote, which I did.

    If I was actually scum, I wouldve been happy to let Oliver lynch go ahead. But I had been against voting Oliver since the train started, and after I realised the tie mechanic, I voted SB hoping SB would flip town which would make Mabel automatically scum in my eyes because her reasoning thay I am scum from day 1 I feel is because she overestimates my skill and projecting that to everyone else. No I am not skilled.

    I still believe it is either SB or Mabel either trout being a wildcard. But I am not going to cross the idea of SB and Mabel team.
    This post doesn't work FMPOV in a world where you're scum. If you're scum and you tie the vote between myself and oli and we're both town (and we are) you lose nothing because the 2-2 vote rands between two town.

    I think you are town, but this reason does not mechanically work.
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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by ikarusdk View Post
    But I am not going to cross the idea of SB and Mabel team.
    Fucking based.
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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    -unvote


    Alright.
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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    Well I haven't been turboed so that means I've got to

    -vote FM-Mabel Pines


    Somehow I knew we'd end up here when I looked at the player list.
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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    Sorry for my absence. I severely underestimated the amount of energy that I would have this week.

    The only way that this game makes sense at this point is Mabel + Trout, where Mabel pushed me while Trout pushed Oli. It was a play that if I were putting more focus into reading I probably would've gotten.

    I don't see a world where Trout is wolf with ika with the fake vote. I guess if I take Trout's fake vote at face value it means the scum team could be Mabel + Ikarus but that feels less likely to me than Trout + Mabel given the way the votes laid out yesterday.
    oliverz144 (2 [L-1]):
    Trout, Stealthbomber16
    Trout (1 [L-2]):
    oliverz144
    Stealthbomber16 (2 [L-1]):
    ikarusdk, FM-Mabel Pines

    This looks more correct to me than a world where both scum voted me and oli flipped green anyway.
  30. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    I wish I could stay for longer. I'm not solid enough on my mabel read to leave a vote there but I do think that
    -vote oliverz144
    is a good halfway point because it works with my worldview and is much safer.
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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Mabel Pines View Post
    -vote oliverz144


    I think this is the best chance of a hit at this point.

    Stealth is a pretty good target too, but I'd pretty much always kill oliver day 1 over stealth when they're of equal scumminess.

    I have some concerns with ikar but I can see some glimpses of towny thought there.

    Would not kill Trout today. Varc is the sheriff.
    I do take issue with this post and then Mabel switching votes off of oli and onto me when oli has made no new posts.

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Mabel Pines View Post
    Oliver at this point is barely playing the game. That's well within his wolf range eg American flag Nightless

    Maybe he comes back, maybe he doesn't, but as of right now I'm seeing pretty solid woof equity there that also has a consolation prize of trimming a dead weight town that's not playing when we miss
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Mabel Pines View Post
    Also fmpov I know for a fact that you wanting to kill me over Oliver is aggressively anti-town
    At best Oliver is a woof and at worst I'm better to be kept alive as town. You can deduce that too, so I want to hear from you why you think Oliver isn't the best chop
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Mabel Pines View Post
    I'm not calling you scum, I'm asking you questions. I even explained that POV in my post I posted at the same time as this one.

    If you're town don't rehash election day where we were both town. I'm asking you for reasons, don't get caught up on OMGUS!

    I took no issue with your reaction test vote on varcron. And I don't plan on voting you today at all, you're the least polarized player on this list other than me and I don't want to make that gamble when I know for a fact that there is a wolf among the more polarized set of (trout, ikar, Oliver)

    And just looking at those 3- wow Oliver looks really bad
    There's a LOT of issues with the logic of making this series of posts and then flipping onto me when nothing has changed about oli's position.

    I'm lost on whether or not this is you scumpainting me because I actually really like this post:
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Mabel Pines View Post
    @Stealthbomber16

    If there's a single post you read, it should be this one:


    Going into this game I was very much hoping for a townrand as there are a lot of polarized players in this playerlist that I thought would give town good chances to win. I was also hoping that either you or Varcron randed the sheriff as I think you two are the least polarized players on this list other than me. And both of those things happened! Basically the dream rand!

    So now some facts that I think we can both agree on:
    - You are not a polarized player - you have a history of snowing towns as wolf and the expectation that you can be read easily day 1 is just false, especially in a game with such minimal content as this one
    - I am not a polarized player - literally the best players in the world were not able to correctly deduce my alignment at any rate above rand, the expectation that you can read me easily day 1 is just false, especially in a game with such minimal content as this one
    - From both of our town POVs there is at least one wolf among (Ikarus, Trout, Oliver)
    - That same trio consists of a player in their first game, a player in their second game, and oliver who is relatively polarized. New players also are much more polarized than experienced players.


    So I deduced all of these things - and I assumed you would deduce them as well. And I assumed you would therefore converge on a similar strategy as me if you are town:
    1) Find the wolf among (Ikarus, Trout, Oliver)
    2) Solve Stealth only after the wolf among those three is found (or from your POV you would solve me only after the first wolf is found)

    This works especially well because there is no nightkill so you'll be alive until the end.


    The big reason I've been wary about you is that it seems that you've not actually come to these conclusions - and that's concerning to me because I believe a scum~Stealth would be more opportunistic, wouldn't be thinking like this, and would try to push me out early. That's not to say that you're lock scum for scumreading me. I've seen you mis-tunnel on you before, just as you've seen me mis-tunnel on you before.

    And maybe you've just not had the time to really think deeply about the game and haven't reached these same conclusions as a result.

    But now with all that said - who do you think is most likely wolf among those three? And why?

    From your POV there mechanically has to be at least one wolf among those three, so who do you think it is?

    I think there's a very good case for it not being Trout.
    And a middling but still existent case for it not being ikarus.
    Yes?
    Because your logic here is completely sound- keep the strong player alive while you solve the players you're less familiar with, then go back and revisit the strong player when you have more reads. But then you completely violate this later. So my problem is that you make some good points from town POV, and then break the POV by voting me when oli has only gotten worse throughout the day. It's looking really likely that the team is oli/mabel fmpov.

    I will say that if you did actually think all of that out beforehand then you do a lot more game theory than I do.
  32. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    First thought is that I'm not seeing any oli posts and the traction there has completely jumped off so I'm really leaning towards chopping there today.
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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    There's an hour left in the day. I will be backreading for as long as I can but I don't know when I will have to leave thread.
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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Will type up a deeper response soon but it feels disingenuous to call oli a new player when hes been around for a while.
    Not that I dont understand what you mean. I just think your term was bad.
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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    Will type up a deeper response soon but it feels disingenuous to call oli a new player when hes been around for a while.
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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Mabel Pines View Post
    I was thinking, "how do I expect stealth to play if he were town here"
    And my conclusion was that you would recognize the need to bring some life into the game state and probably try to get a better read on me.

    As scum I expected you to just coast and probably just scum read me and move on.

    Now I've been wrong on you before, but you were also wrong on me, so if you're town, step up

    What do you find townie about Oliver?
    Why do you not want to kill a player that has at the very least >rand wolf equity that has also min posted and peaced out for the day?

    Why do you have so much more confidence in flipping me today when a miss on me is probably just a loss whereas a miss on Oliver is whatever - he's not playing anyway?
    Alright. Definitely not a fan of this post. Youre calling me scum for daring to scumread you even though I havent even put a vote on you.

    You think I havent been trying to get more posts in? What do you think my entrance was? I come in, put a strange vote down, and invite discussion in. Theres only so many things to comment on with 25 posts in the game. I created more and it feels like its worked.

    If I were a betting man Id bet that youre setting yourself up to justify a vote on me before EoD by making a fake progression case about why its so bad to call you scum right now.

    Im going to come back in a few hours and respond to everything else youre posting. I dont have time right now.
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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Mabel Pines View Post
    Stealth, if you're town here you're going to need to step up. You're playing in pretty much the exact way I would expect a scum~you to play with the hard coasting and lack of depth on any of your reads. Especially if the team actually just is you and Oliver.
    For what its worth me showing up late was literally just me forgetting that the game started because Ive been focused on moving.

    There is not much to analyze and I do feel like Ive been having thoughts and stirring up the thread significantly, even if my thoughts were not the best.
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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Trout View Post
    Ohhh so that previous vote was all just a tactical distraction then? A suggestion you implanted in our minds that once you flip Mafia we shouldn't vote Mabel afterwards because "you pushed her that one time." Alright, thanks for the transparence Mr. Confident
    You arent supposed to edit your posts.
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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    Currently more likely to flip on Mabel than oli
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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    Cool.
    -unvote

    I need to see a little bit more from oli, but Im confidently declaring ikarus town here.
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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    I think anyone can make general observations like that. Seems like a very simple way for scum to coast.
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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Mabel Pines View Post
    oliver is the towniest player in the game right now


    ikar is probably the scummiest although stealth not responding to a question that was posted only 2 minutes after his post is concerning. He might have just left the thread right after posting though given how dead the game is, but still, meh.

    Trout has been pretty much completely NAI and I doubt he'll do anything AI this game.
    Uh I was playing DnD

    Didnt like Varcron just dropping in to say yeah the activity is bad and then leaving.
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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    -vote Varcron

    This is not a shitpost.
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    Thread:S-FM 347: Lazzy

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    ►►Re: S-FM 347: Lazzy◄◄

    I completely forgot that this game began.
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    ►►Re: Lazzy (signups)◄◄

    Acknowledged.
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    ►►Re: Lazzy (signups)◄◄

    i am now available to /sign
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    ►►Re: Lazzy (signups)◄◄

    martin found scum irl

    -vote Sterling
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    Thread:HAY HAY

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    ►►Re: S-FM The News (11P)◄◄

    + gave mafia a permanent chat over a night-only chat
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    ►►Re: S-FM 346: Warcraft◄◄

    GG, good try Yayap
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