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    [Restoration Request] ►►Music Point Resotration Request◄◄

    Account Name:Music
    Account ID: 1-S2-1-2311149
    Your Server: North America(NA)
    Approximate Points: 20kish might be more might be less


    i dont have a replay as my old computer has malware. There should be a replay with me in it

    Thanks lads
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumbot5679 View Post
    I can lock my own house, thank you
    Are you joking, or are you counter claiming me? Why havent you claimed yet
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    It really feels like im being framed since PoE died last night
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gikkle View Post
    Innovation can you claim your role and actions please?
    Not a problem i will do this first.

    I am a locksmith.

    N1- no actions.

    N2- Locked Scumbot
    Reasons:
    1) Scumbot voted for MM. Saw it as a positive
    2) You didn't hammer right away, giving town more time which helps
    3) You called out POD for pushing me so hard

    N3- No Action. One use left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir View Post
    well you are throwing unless the triad team is exactly you+auwt

    -vote bakermir


    just vote me out if you aren't going to follow the actual town here: Scarlet-Ikarus-Pod-Baker all called innovation triad and if this is wrong then we deserve to lose anyway
    Literally misinformation. If you read the early post, you will see at least ikarus calling me a hard town read. SL also never said i was triad as well.
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    sorry guys, its my first game i didnt know how much of a time commitment it would be. kinda depreso right now, but ill try make a post after catching up over time, just been kinda ykno crying all day
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    Quote Originally Posted by powerofdeath View Post
    this is one of the biggest “OMGUS” ive seen
    what is OMGUS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by powerofdeath View Post
    The 2 games I played with Ikarus when he was town, all of his reads were wrong, this game is not an exception
    If were going to use that logic, I cant say anything to refute since its literally my first game. And in this game, you cant be right 100% of the times. 2 games isn't a huge sample size. I also never said ikarus cleared me at all, Im saying that both ikarus and SL scumleaned towards you and they ended up being dead townies.
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    That being said, i only have two reads right now:

    Strong Town: Gikkle
    ScuM: PoD. Reason being: He didn't contribute much day 1 and both SL and ikarus voted for him(im going to assume these are good players and they were town), and day2 he accuses me, even with ikarus's posts and lw and trying to deflect attention away from him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gikkle View Post
    So you didn't bus drive me and ikarus?
    I didn't bus you guys, it wouldn't make sense for me to do so since ikarus was shielding me, and swapping you with him doens't make sense at all. Im the last TH if MM s indeed vigi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gikkle View Post
    will respond to posts directed at me in a bit


    @Innovation can you acknowledge this post?
    Okay, I've caught up. I agree with you that the BD should claim if it impacted the ikarus/gikkle/mm interaction.
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    Sorry im still reading and analyzing over what hapepned last night, its my first game after all. I'll get back to you asap
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    Quote Originally Posted by powerofdeath View Post
    youre acting like dead people's reads are 100% accurate
    dead people reads? WHen he was alive his read was on you as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by powerofdeath View Post
    Had I been here I wouldnt kept my vote on Ikarus, I wouldve swithed to someone else, probably to Innovation. While I understand this is his first game, his overall vibes Day 1 are just kinda like an active scum that isn't really doing anything but try to look active. Someone new as Town wouldve scumhunt a tad bit, I dont see much scumhunting from this slot.

    Youre kinda contradicting yourself here. If you are following Ikarus, he was the only one that was hard town reading me.

    As per his last will:

    "About Innovation, His assessment about my early posts were spot on, although I gave up on faking a power role. This is what I meant by his instinct being sharp, and you guys shouldn't put his opinions aside, but rather listen."

    So if you wouldnt have kept your vote on Ikarus, and Ikarus has a strong townread on me, then why would it make sense to vote for me considering his reads? It really seems like you're trying to deflect.
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    I also think Inno could be scum. I just hate that he wasn't voting and willing to get his hands dirty.

    [/QUOTE]

    I tried to vote, but there were too many replies to the thead and it wouldnt go through before the deadline.
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    Hey guys, sorry i've been busy with doctors appointments and other chores. Let me catch up real quick
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    And as for the scum read on scarlett, again its a very weak read on a single post where she instantly changed her position and stance in the game, im not sure the level of players here though are, but if shes a good player then shes prob town. But if shes new, more likely scum
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    [QUOTE=Innovation;988070]1) Scarlett, but only purely based on the one post where it reads to me like "my bad guys, ill align with you, ill vote with you guys as long as its not me".

    Actually to clarify Scarlett would be 2). The UTR strategy in survivor is just so OP
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    2) furtiveglance forgot to include his name
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikarusdk View Post
    In general, I'd ask, who is your top 3 scum

    but since we haven't really been active

    who is your current top 2 scum?>

    Even with feelings about slots it's good to arrive there since we are short of time.

    1) Scarlett, but only purely based on the one post where it reads to me like "my bad guys, ill align with you, ill vote with you guys as long as its not me".

    Quote Originally Posted by The Scarlet Letters View Post
    Just to clarify, I’ve changed my mind on what I initially thought about ikarus. After seeing the responses by ikarus and also just thinking it over more I will at least say I don’t see it as scummy. The combination of the other posts, I wouldn’t want to vote ikarus today.

    I also wouldn’t want to vote Gikkle, scumbot, Inno, Furtive, or Flea

    I kinda feel the opposite about MM than do others, but I guess we won’t get into that today.

    I’d be down for PoD or Banana today. Pretty much anyone not in the list of no voting. ;)

    ~I

    2) LHF, but from being a huge survivor fan, feels like hes playing an UTR (under the radar) strategy, and hasn't done anything ahnd posted completely last second. Coming from the mod, usually scums are quiet so maybe i may be completely wrong on this aspect as scums should be more helpful i guess
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I feel like scum would never crumb here, simply because scum have no extra info, meaning town would find the crumbs just like scum lol. I think I mildly like Scumbot for his post about Gikkle and SL, in fact. I like the part about SL because I agree with it, and while I don't agree with the Gikkle scumread, I like that he's attacking a prominent player who seems to be widely liked: it feels genuine and feels like he isn't overly mindful of his own survival, which is towny, even in this setup.
    Maybe im overanalyzing it, but can't that also mean that because of the reasons you mentioned, its even easier to leave such crumbs because its such a terrible play and most people won't think anything of it or look over it
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumbot5679 View Post
    is this your fist game inno? like I know its your first game here but have you ever played anywhere?
    Yes this is my first forum mafia game, i think i mentioned earlier in the threads ifve playe the sc2 mods a lot and mafia irl occasionally
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikarusdk View Post
    i won't get into the detail but i have my reasons to believe so.
    Can you explain how you have a strong town read on me? (since you mentioned youre reminded of how im playing similar to your transition from the mod)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikarusdk View Post
    Could you elaborate? I think your instincts are pretty sharp from what i can see.
    Honestly its such a bad attempt at it that I cant even tell if its real, but its based on the fact that triads don't know each other and this post kinda signals "hey guys wink wink im one of you, im active!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumbot5679 View Post
    just a reminder that scum can be active too
    this feels like leaving breadcrumbs to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikarusdk View Post
    What are your thoughts on Pod and MM?

    Do you have a basic read on the rest of the players?
    NGL, I cant decipher MM's style of typing i cant get a read of him at all
    As for pod, he hasnt contributed much which (again im new), I guess could be a little scummy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by furtiveglance View Post
    Hey everyone, sorry I missed the start of this. Looking forward to playing with everyone!

    Any questions for me?
    i am so bad with this forum tech omg

    who do you suggest we vote based on the conversations so far?
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    Who do you suggest we vote based on the conversations so far?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikarusdk View Post
    Also Innovation, don't be afraid to post whatever comes to mind. Every little thing helps and keeps it interesting foe the rest of players.

    Nothing screams boredom when you refresh the page multiple times for an hour and there js nothing new to read
    To clarify then, based on playing the mod for many years, i thought you were scum pretending to be a power town, and after voting you, and based on your reaction and other posts i am fairly convinced youre town
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikarusdk View Post
    Fair enough there but the quote was Gikkles so I got confused
    yeah as you can tell, i am not familiar with these old forum tech T_T
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    Ah it was your post but I may have been just over analyzing it. I was advised to just do a random vote to test it out, and I chose you only based on how these types of behaviors in the mod are usually scum
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    Just saw this, and yeah you were spot on
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    No @Renegade is just my mentor

    does he type in a similar manner to this?
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    -unvote


    unvoting
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    how do you unvote?
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    -vote ikarusdk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gikkle View Post
    Hmmm nevermind my reasoning doesn't sound as good when written out as it did in my head, even for an early day 1 "very slight TR"
    The reasoning I was thinking of being that Ikarus, if Triad, would be ever so slightly more cautious with directly challenging someone about what the "optimal" first Triad death would be. My few seconds of thought about the read were that either A) If he believed Assessor was the highest priority, then Triad!Ikarus wouldn't necessarily be inspired to help town arrive to that conclusion and would thus be slightly less likely to make this kind of post and B) If he DIDN'T think Assessor was actually the highest priority (and was just being contradictory to appear thoughtful), then he's risking immediately taking a stance he thinks is bad and looking bad off of it for little benefit.

    Writing this all out though it's just bad reasoning imo even for a weak RVS TR given that A is something that I myself have done (that is, pointing out optimal town play as a wolf), and it's not exactly gonna win the game for town (there's not really a way to distinguish between the different triad early on so having a "priority" triad isn't exactly gonna help us much rn), and not only that, but including that disagreement in a list of points against PoD honestly comes across a bit like a wolf thinking "this is the obvious townie position to take", and to emphasize that, they accuse/shade others that take other positions because of course, they have the correct (and thus townie) position.

    And B is not solid either because it presumes that Triad!Ikarus thinks it's an indefensible position to take, which I don't think would be true because the Assessor is a pretty big nuisance.

    Honestly though I might agree with MM that this post is a bit sketchy lol. Not for the reasons MM stated though, but still
    The first point Ikarus makes is weird because what does ikarus expect T!PoD to say that's "new" in an open setup that just started? You could argue there isn't a lot of meat to PoD's analysis of the setup, but given it was a post to kick off the thread & PoD said they skimmed the setup (this combines with my point regarding Ikarus' third point), it comes off as a bit disingenuous?
    The second point is even more strange because the placement of it as part of the points in a "1., 2., 3." style makes it seem as if PoD holding an opinion that differs from Ikarus' automatically makes PoD worthy of suspicion?
    And the third point is ??? Feels a bit out of nowhere imo. There's not really a reason to hold this belief? Not like we can prove what people do prior to the game starting lol, and plenty of people don't read setups of games they sign up for until the game actually starts (unless there's reliable meta that PoD always reads the setup?). So combining this with point 1 and it sort of comes off as trying to "justify" holding the first point? As without the third point, the first point sort of falls apart imo, as someone making a "redundant" or "unhelpful" setup analysis makes sense if they only skimmed the setup.

    Although I have to say the wording of PoD's last sentence of that post rings some very specific scum bells that haven't been rung in a long while...
    Overtly defensive, and trying to dictate the game from the start masking as a town power is all I get from this. (but i know you guys have played with each other quite a lot so i may be jsut wrong here) but thats just my take

    -vote Ikarusdk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Hey there! What's your background in terms of mafia, if I may ask? As POD said, we're in random voting stage right now (RVS), aiming to get some information. That being said, this RVS is a little more serious than usual, considering the Ikarus stuff gives us something to ponder on right off the bat.

    I played sc2 mafia mod pretty much for my entire teenage life id say from 2010-2015? Im definetely a better mafia player irl though, as i feel like I can read body language/ tones of their voices etc, its a different dynamic.
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    No they dont have any influence at all.
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    Woah! Hope you enjoy my stay??? Im worried now haha
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    Hey guys, since its my first game I thoiught it was pretty uncommon to get tells so early on
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    Hey everyone, excited to play my first mafia game with you guys!
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    You know what they say about beginners luck
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    Oh idk if it was possible i lost it all in roulette. No worries though!
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    Account Name: Music
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    Approximate Points: at least 10-20k in that range.
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    yeooo nice work!
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