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    Ok guys, I'm here now. First thing: I got feedback blocked. With this, my last charge has gone to waste.

    My thoughts to the situation: Lynching today has to happen. If we no-lynch then our influence will only diminish. We don't cripple ourselves accidentally again if we don't lynch but we let the scum factions get stronger and we can't have that happen.

    As for who should be our target for today: I'm getting the SK vibe from both Instagram and Kik and I believe the Doomsday Killer is one of them. I really can't imagine Angry Birds being the DDK so I would opt for a Kik or Instagram lynch since crippling the mafia won't reduce the KPN.

    And I would say not to worry CtR, you did lead mislynches and whatever else you may be "accused" of, but they always seemed valid and someone has to lead the day. Shit happens, but it would've most likely happened either way.

    -vote Instagram


    We can switch the votes onto the other active train if needed so for now I'm voting Instagram.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cut the Rope View Post
    Quizup yeah I hate the racial slur but bigger problems exist. I think it shows poor conduct as a player and IMO if it is against the policies I have faith the mods will handle it privately. But yeah I want to lynch Ninja too but Temple Run has got to be it.

    Quizup please vote Temple Run.
    Nah, insults and the like are considered a legitimate strategy. Understandable if you do it to rile people up.

    This situation is quite ridiculous because people are acting so irrationally from my point of view. I don't know what to say to that. All I can do is laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quizup View Post
    4pics1word: Why precisely do you think Temple Run is scum? Put it in your own words.

    Rope: Pretend for the moment that I'm not an idiot and Temple Run is town. Who's scum?
    His contributions are pretty useless and the vibe his posts give me is bad. He is not an active contributor and yet last day for example he demanded the active lurkers to step up and contribute. How would he know though who an active lurker is if he didn't see them himself? Hypocritical.
    Then there's the fact that a lot of what he says is just enough to get by unnoticed. Flappy Bird made a great analysis of Temple Run that we can use to evaluate him and since Flappy Bird flipped town there is no reason to mistrust this since we now know that Flappy Bird wasn't trying to maliciously manipulate everyone. Using this analysis it is quite easy to see just how scummy Temple Run is.
    The analysis btw: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post450831

    It's more than enough to be the scummiest player in my books as of now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cut the Rope View Post
    What are your thoughts on scum? (Besides Temple Run) Is Quizup town derp or scum(mafia or SK)? I can see it both ways. By now hopefully you have a scum team you think it is together and the likely SK.
    For now, I'd say Quizup and 2048/Instagram might be on the mafia team besides Temple Run. If Quizup flips scum then I could definitely see Instagram being his scum buddy. I don't see many other combinations.

    BloonsTD was on my "maybe scum" list but I think his contributions are honest (atleast since his replacement), they are just a bit hard to graps for me personally (something about his style of writing, but I can guess his COM and know why that is).
    Kik is a bit weird because to me it seems like he only focused Quizup on the whole game and nothing else struck me about his posts, should Quizup flip town then he might be on my scum list. Then again, looking at the different votes right now I would suspect some bussing going on if Kik was mafia and I would need to revise my list again anyway in that case.
    Angry Birds and Piano Tiles both don't strike me as scum really, and I can't think of a strong case that was made against Angry Birds. There were posts that showed some supposed slip ups from Angry Birds here and there, but it's nowhere near as strong as the case against Temple Run for example. Piano Tiles seems like someone who genuinely didn't have much time to post.
    Fruit Ninja is playing like a researcher I'd say, nothing special to say about him.

    This list is just about people being mafia or not, not sure about the Doomsday Killer at all.
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    Okay, so. This has been quite a read but I am done and I guess it's time to claim feedback first.

    My target is a Jailor/Detainer.

    As you may guess, I targeted Quizup.

    Want me to reveal my other feedback too or would that be too much? It's not helpful either way, but I don't want to mess your plan up CtR.

    Other than that: The Temple Run case is convincing to me so I don't see why there aren't any other people on it. A lot of people have pointed to Temple Run being scum and the contradictions in what Temple Run says and what he does aren't helping him.

    -vote Temple Run
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    -vote Fall Down


    I think his reactions were fairly scummy regarding the gambit and he was leaning scummy on my list before already, so I don't feel uncomfortable lynching Fall Down. This will most likely be my last post for today, so I'm gonna park my vote here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clash of Clans View Post
    Thoughts on the rapid wagon forming on Temple Run, after it was specifically stated we shouldn't blitzon a lurker + obvious town if they're blitzed on?
    Depends on how scummy you see CtR and Flappy Bird, who I both see as some of my stronger town reads. Add to this that Fall Down and I are not on the same team since I'm willing to lynch him too and then go from there.
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    Hmm, seeing this now Fall Down seems like a good lynch for today too, but we should decide soon.
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    I'm gonna cast my vote on Temple Run because it looks like we finally reached a consensus. I'm happier with a Temple Run lynch than an Angry Birds lynch.

    -vote Temple Run
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    Also, my line regarding CtR referred to this post and Quizup line:

    Quote Originally Posted by Cut the Rope View Post
    OMG...I leave for a quick bite to eat before my afternoon call and this happens...I'm with Clash I'm crying over the amount of derp in this thread, albeit for different reasons.

    Although with Flappy Bird trying to help remove some of this derp and the unlikeliness of them getting lynched I will give a break for now and sleep on it.

    My order of priority for lynches are:
    Fruit Ninja -- remove a conf scum. If they are jestered (which IMO I will suggest a mechanics change to the mod after this if they are) then their entire purpose is to troll and not care and not be helpful keeping them on will hurt our chances at removing scum because they don't care and may not even vote. The more we wait the more likely it is we lose.
    Temple Run / Instagram -- My two top scum reads.
    Quizup -- Pretty confident they are the Serial Killer. However I'd prefer to get rid of scum first.
    No lynch -- With the other possibilities present maybe going a flat no lynch is possible. It's unlikely there is a detainer in the scum as no two mafia kill the first night. This would put the cards in the serial killers hands which IMO they have to try to hit mafia to stay alive. If mafia overtake town and the serial killer, it is likely that they will lose as well. I hate that this gives us no information though and hopes the serial killer kills mafia...But it's better than the last option to me.
    Anyone lurking -- Not enough evidence here to pick one lurker over another. This would be the equivalent of Russian Roulette and I don't like it. Informed arguments people.
    If we get to anything lower than this, it's not getting my vote.

    -vote Fruit Ninja


    Changing my vote just in case I have to leave for my call.
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    If you are so sure CtR, then you should push for a Quizup lynch, because the removed KPN would be a blessing to us at the moment since the probability of hitting town is much higher than scum, so that sentence is either a stupid slip or you just haven't explained it completely and we are taking it the wrong way. My best guess is that you are hoping for the Doomsday Killer to hit scum, but that seems more like holding onto a false hope to me.

    At the moment I think a Temple Run lynch would be a very good idea, especially because his posts 1203, 1208 and 1209 are rubbing me in a bad way. There have been longer analyzing posts already against him and as such I'm not going to repeat an analysis because I found myself agreeing.

    As for the Fruit Ninja lynch: I don't think it's a bad idea. We should assume that Fruit Ninja might side with scum simply because it's the easier thing to do. In which case lynching him now would already take out a potential vote against us. In case he is a Jester it would still not be a bad idea to take him out because we would be trading a vote against us vs a Peaceful, not that bad if you ask me. Certainly a lynch on a scum would be better but this lynch is always good to fall back on if we have trouble deciding. At the very least we should confirm that he is not scum and not lying about his role to us which is why a Fruit Ninja lynch isn't stupid.

    The Angry Bird lynch train that is going seems a bit weak if you ask me. I would certainly lean rather scum than town, but there are scummier people than him in my books. I wouldn't be able to back it with my full confidence, which is why I'd go for someone else today.

    I'm not quite sure about Instagram/Kik/Quizup because it's such a mess of back and forth and it's hard to decide. I'd rather opt for some more obvious lynches today.
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    I have finished reading. I agree on the general idea of pressuring the lurkers (Angry Birds, Piano Tiles, Fall Down, etc.), but it's also important to judge the active players since scums might very well be active too (Words with Friends as one example). Anyway, since I have been uncontributive but want to share my opinions I'm going to give a short list of my thoughts on most people because I'm not a man of many words.

    Cut the Rope - Someone said this guy is untrustworthy or something along the lines. That's pretty stupid because every big FoS from CTR has been backed by very detailing analyses most of the times and CTR's play has been largely pro-town. One of our town leaders, doesn't get much townier than this.

    Flappy Bird
    - Posts his own thoughts, is critical when appropriate. Town-oriented play. Town in my books.

    Quizup
    - Unsure, his posts are intended to create content being posted, but he doesn't post as much of his own thoughts and expects others to ask him which is not good in my opinion. Leaning more town than scum, but CTR's posts contain some good points.

    Instagram - Similarly unsure, he is active but he does not leave an impression of a towny player, his contributions don't struck me as largely useful. Neutral about him, also here CTR has raised good points for a case against Instagram.

    Kik - While he is actively pushing the scumhunt, it seems like it has been based against Quizup only so far. Neutral as of now because I consider the fixation to be a bit too pushy.

    Angry Birds
    - Pretty uncontributive, showed scum-like behaviour/tone in his posts. Would consider scum.

    Bloons TD - While inactive in the beginning, replacement shows interest in the game. Will expect him to be contributing later in the game. Slightly town.

    Piano Tiles
    - Activity heavily decreased. Not much content posted during the time player was active. Should pressure him, probably scum.

    Clash of Clans
    - Pretty active, made some contributions I would consider townish. Most likely town.

    Temple Run - Uncontributive, left no impression. Worthy of pressure, likely scum.

    Fall Down - Has been rather inactive but got replaced recently. Atm slightly scum.

    2048 - Has made contributions, posted actual content. More on the town side, still unsure though. Seems like he is face-sitting just from memory.

    Fruit Ninja - Might be Researcher, has been uncontributive. Might be a good idea to lynch him.

    That should be everyone I think, or everyone that needs to be commented on. It is not very much but I'm not a good analyzer, I hope that my opinions on everyone suffices regarding reads. I'm kind of tired at the moment so I might be going to sleep soon, but I'll really try to ramp my activity up.
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    Poll: ►►Re: M-FM Civilization◄◄

    Yo everyone, I have not caught up yet but I want to let you know that I am now here. No feedback to report. Will report back once I have caught up (I swear ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Words with Friends View Post
    it seems like you understood me perfectly.

    now why don't you put together a nice shiny list of your reads so far.
    You mean one like yours where I lump all the obvious players together into one of four categories? I can do that.
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    What the fuck is "randomly showing up" even supposed to mean? I'm pretty sure of what you actually mean, but it's silly to say "randomly" since what does classify as "not randomly showing up"? If you want to make an accusation like "you only show up when it's easy to contribute" then say so instead of anything that is too vague.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clash of Clans View Post
    Vine (8 [L-2])



    Shieeeeeeet you figured out my master plan

    4pics1word is scum btw. There's no way you're town and post like 4 times the entire day, and then slide in just to post that. Tsk tsk too convenient, and you fit in the category of "scum lurkers." Aka you post a couple times to stay under the radar
    Lurking implies me being physically there. When I'm here then you will see that at the bottom of the page (which hasn't been that often). Whether or not you believe that isn't entirely my problem. *shrugs*
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    Disguiser code: E JYGUSY BVVELTX ALFT TKJKW VYYXH NYQSB WV XMIJ

    Holy hell, this is hilarious(ly stupid).

    I'd agree with Angry Birds if it weren't for the fact that we still have Candy Crush who can easily hammer Vine.
    The reasoning being that Clash would want to delay the lynch on a killer if he were scum, by revoking his vote he can hope that there won't be enough players to join the train near the end of the day. But it's quite a bold assumption if you take the rest of the game into context, which is why Clash's vote isn't as scummy as it seems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flappy Bird View Post
    I am going to beat the subject of "killing the researcher" until it happens. I can not say enough the incentive of survivor win conditions to flip sides. Add that to the mechanics that can define him as anti-town and you pretty much have a confirmed scum sitting in the open with the town chasing its tail. The only question is will the town lynch him before he becomes a jester or double crosses.
    I don't disagree with a Fruit Ninja lynch. I just disagree with the argument that the researcher should be lynched today instead of a very likely killer. I'd agree on a researcher lynch for tomorrow if nothing else comes up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Words with Friends View Post
    4pics, care to comment on something not already decided?
    Counterquestion: Why were you and Flappy Bird discussing something already decided?

    I will when I decide I can contribute something and of my own free will. Last post was just for people like you who think that lynching Vine is still not the best idea.
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    Sorry for my inactivity but I'm having trouble catching up at the moment, lots of posts being posted while I'm asleep.

    I would join the Vine votes but since she is already at L-2 I will only explain why I think that is the best lynch for today.

    What do we know? That both the Warmonger and the Doomsday Killer attacked Tapatalk and successfully killed him. Furthermore, Vine has also visited Tapatalk, proof being Tapatalk's last will. The chance that Vine is one of the killers is so high that there is barely any reason not to follow through with a lynch. The chance of Vine being town is way less than her being scum if we solely look at the actions.

    Now adding to that is her behaviour. It is largely seen as anti-town and causes confusion amongst us (super short summary, more detail can be seen on the previous pages so..). I can not see a reason where lynching someone that is essentially a survivor at the moment will benefit more than lynching someone who has a VERY HIGH CHANCE of being a killing role. The survivor will not hurt us at the moment, while a killer will. Lynching Vine is not just "on a hunch" as someone has said, we have all the reasons for lynching Vine over a more or less confirmed benign.
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    Oh, of course I have no feedback to report, else I would have done so already.

    I also don't quite like how Piano Tiles is treating this game, comes close to Fruit Ninja's behaviour actually, although I can kind of relate. Problem is that no contribution = no contribution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja View Post
    I'm not against you? Unless you are ze Doomsday Killer.
    Are you claiming researcher?

    Regardless of that, just stating my opinion that Fruit Ninja is still as scummy as I thought him to be yesterday. I'd go with either a Vine or a Fruit Ninja lynch for today, both are strong candidates for being scum.
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    You try to derail it, I will go join it.

    -vote Fruit Ninja
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja View Post
    4pics1word how bout posting plzz.
    How about go fuck yourself.

    I was about to because the day has evolved (and I have finally caught up after having a nap halfway through reading and dinner and bleh) and I want to offer my opinion.

    Regarding Vine: My opinion is neutral about her. She is obviously trying to irritate people and seem.. "mysterious" is the best word I can think of right now. The easiest way to deal with this is just to take the content of her posts for what it is at this point, but it's unnecessary to get yourself worked up about Vine.

    I won't talk about the special mechanics in this game because I am not really in-depth with all of it, but I like the progress of the people who did concern themselves with it.

    Not going to talk about my opinions of certain other people as of now. Wouldn't wanna paint a target on my back, ya know.
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    Good day, dear Sirs and Madams. I will begin reading through the day and see if I have anything to add at the end of it.
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