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  1. Forum:Approved Forum Mafia Setups

    Thread:S-FM Gold Rush (14p)

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    ►►Re: Gold Rush (14p)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    Ok 1 less VT now.
    With that additional 1 VT, the current stats for this setup are:
    Game 1: ended on Day 5 in a town victory!
    Game 2: ended on Day 7 in a town victory!
    Game 3: ended on Day 7 in a mafia victory!
    Game 4: ended on Day 4 in a mafia victory!
    Game 5: ended on Day 5 in a mafia victory!
    Game 6: ended on Day 8 in a mafia victory!
    Game 7: ended on Day 6 in a mafia victory!
    Game 8: ended on Day 7 in a mafia victory!
    Game 9: ended on Day 7 in a mafia victory!
    Game 10: ended on Day 4 in a mafia victory!
    Semifinal 1: ended on Day 5 in a town victory!
    Semifinal 2: ended on Day 4 in a town victory!
    Semifinal 3: ended on Day 6 in a mafia victory!
    Finale: currently ongoing
    Note: champs are notoriously imbalanced from the players side. In all seasons most qualis are wolf won and most semis+finals are town won. Most often town has a win rate of 36% - which would be again this season if town wins finals.


    Honestly, this setup is fine with or without that 1 VT.
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    ►►Re: Sc2 Mafia Private Lobby with friends.◄◄

    Mafia.gg > Epic Mafia
    Especially given that the latter is basically dead \_(ツ)_/
    I guess we'll never know which route they went.
    @Arrow just curious - how long usually does it take between a white list request and it being implemented in the game?
  3. Forum:Approved Forum Mafia Setups

    Thread:S-FM SVM (10P or 14P)

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    [Approved Experimental] ►►Re: S-FM SVM◄◄

    Nooooo no queue
    I was just enjoying myself with setup creation


    Also on clarifications - this setup would get many questions anyways, can't avoid it
  4. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Withdrawal from Afghanistan

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    ►►Re: Withdrawal from Afghanistan◄◄

    This felt appropriate for this thread
    https://youtu.be/cMyKGNy3CI4

    I mean.. he's not wrong..
    But like.. that feels like a optimistic aftermath scenario..
  5. Forum:Approved Forum Mafia Setups

    Thread:S-FM SVM (10P or 14P)

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    [Approved Experimental] ►►Re: S-FM SVM◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    It probably won't be a surprise if I tell you this will be reviewed as an experimental setup and later approved as such lol (which means people should be aware it's a little crazy/different before signing).
    Wouldn't have it any other way!


    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I suggest you also force people to @ mention the host when they place support votes so that you do not have to read through 1k posts to know who support-voted who, for the sake of your sanity lol.
    Done. But then also made coloring optional.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    If Helz can even use mafia-specific powers, does it mean he can use the Mafia Meme's power and win that way? Nice alternative wincon :P
    Totally missed that lol.
    Even though it's funny, I just excluded it to not think about it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Vote Enhancer gives items, right? The wording is not entirely clear imo, maybe clarifying it would be a good idea.
    Added the word 'Item' for Vote Enhancer and Priest.


    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Inspector power card: What is a nonstandard item? What is a default item?
    Nonstandard = items that were influenced by Mafia special abilities. Realistically I don't expect Mafia priest and vote enhancer to ever use their Mafia abilities tbh, but you never know. \_(ツ)_/

    Do you think it needs more clarification?


    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Powers: When you say "affect" vote power, does it mean adding power, removing power or both?
    Both.



    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Role selection:
    - I assume "amount of players -1" is because Helz has all special powers and thus doesn't need to be assigned one?
    Yep.


    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    - Pure RNG is balance's worst enemy. If you wish to stick to this, I suggest you generate more than 1 setup and pick the most [insert whatever your criterion for a good game is here] one. You could even leave that criterion unspecified so that people could not speculate whether your goal was to create a crazy game or a balanced game
    I removed the 'random' part. Now it's up to the host.
    But tbh, I feel like it was already balanced no matter what. 30% vanilla, 25% vote enhancer, 25% priest, every other role having a max count 1 or 2.
  6. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Name for dialect specific words?

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    ►►Re: Name for dialect specific words?◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Dialectical.
    Definitions that Google spits out:
    -relating to the logical discussion of ideas and opinions.
    -concerned with or acting through opposing forces.
    -discourse between two or more people holding different points of view about a subject but wishing to establish the truth through reasoned argumentation.

    Where did you get the word from? :/
  7. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Name for dialect specific words?

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    ►►Name for dialect specific words?◄◄

    As far as I can tell, non of these apply: slang, jargon, colloquial - though their definitions seem to differ from site to site.
  8. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:I am not posting again for a month

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    ►►Re: I am not posting again for a month◄◄

    HentaiManOfPeace, with all due respect, you're one of the last people to talk about integrity.
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    Thread:Withdrawal from Afghanistan

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    ►►Re: Withdrawal from Afghanistan◄◄

    20-25 year olds, so young. :/
  10. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:I am not posting again for a month

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    ►►Re: I am not posting again for a month◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    He's not advocating for anyone to ruin the game.

    He's pointing out the hypocrisy of "I'm leaving" and then still signing for a game and being active.
    He signed way before then, and knowing him he forgot.

    I didn't say he's advocating anything - I said he's insulting for terrible reasons.
  11. Forum:Approved Forum Mafia Setups

    Thread:S-FM SVM (10P or 14P)

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    [Approved Experimental] ►►Re: S-FM SVM◄◄

    @Marshmallow Marshall
    Now it's really ready for review.
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    Thread:S-FM SVM (10P or 14P)

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    [Approved Experimental] ►►Re: S-FM SVM◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    You win when you have had an effect on votes worth 10 vote points as a living player (which means your votes, your support votes, the items you used and the abilities you performed all count towards that goal while you're alive).
    I was actually thinking more on the lines of "the items that you give away and were used" - to incentivize giving modified items away, or any items at all for that matter.
    I think I'll stick to that idea. It's also undisputed direct influence while using a item like "double support on self" it's more debatable wether that's a direct influence or not, I'd argue the one who gave that item deserves that credit.
    But then again, counting the effects of the other item
    while not for this one would be kind of a double standard.

    God damnit..
  13. Forum:Approved Forum Mafia Setups

    Thread:S-FM SVM (10P or 14P)

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    [Approved Experimental] ►►Re: S-FM SVM◄◄

    Yah I really need to reword Helz's wincon somehow..
    It's meant like accumulative of his own votes, across days, as well as that of his given items or used abilities.
    Ngl, I'm not sure how to reword it.
  14. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:I am not posting again for a month

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    ►►Re: I am not posting again for a month◄◄

    Trying to insult someone for not intentionally ruining the game for others..

    Is there even a word to describe it? Like that's just low.
  15. Forum:Approved Forum Mafia Setups

    Thread:S-FM SVM (10P or 14P)

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    [Approved Experimental] ►►Re: S-FM SVM◄◄

    I kinda wanted to finish this so I did.
    Ready for review.
    That OoO though..
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    Thread:S-FM SVM (10P or 14P)

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    [Approved Experimental] ►►Re: S-FM SVM◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Lag View Post
    Is this a joke? Or is this a serious thread? lol

    EDIT: Actually a cursory look over the setup, this looks to be a legit setup, not just a parody of MM's setup for parody's sake
    Yesterday I thought the setup great.
    Today I think the setup is way too much, both for hosting and for playing.

    Tbh, I did want to troll MM a bit. \_(ツ)_/

    Yah but seriously, this is such a troll setup idk what I was thinking..
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    Thread:S-FM SVM (10P or 14P)

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    [Approved Experimental] ►►Re: S-FM SVM◄◄

    @Marshmallow Marshall I like your color codes
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    Thread:S-FM SVM (10P or 14P)

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    [Approved Experimental] ►►S-FM SVM (10P or 14P)◄◄

    OzyWho presents...

    SUPPORT VOTE MAFIA

    Special Mechanics
    There's 2 kinds of votes this game: Lynch votes and Support votes.
    How to Lynch vote: [VOTE]PlayerName[/VOTE]
    How to Support vote:[MENTION]HostName [/MENTION] -support PlayerName (coloring is optional)
    No self votes.
    By default, Lynch votes count for +1 and Support votes count for -0.5
    At the end of the day: the player with the highest score will be eliminated, and the player with the lowest score will gain a permanent additional -0.5 power to their support votes.
    Ties get randomized.
    Each players final scores are posted only at the end of the day. Example:
    Spoiler : Score Table :

    Player Lynchers Supporters Score
    Player1 Player2, Player3 2
    Player2 Player1 Player3 0.5
    Player3 Player1, Player2 -1

    Rolelist
    Mafia x3
    Town x10
    Helz x1
    or
    Mafia x2
    Town x7
    Helz x1


    Rolecards
    Spoiler : Roles :

    Town
    You're a member of the Town.
    In order to win, eliminate all Mafia players and Helz.
    Your power:
    Mafia
    You're a member of the Mafia.
    In order to win, outnumber Town players or be in a situation where that cannot be prevented.
    Your team chat:
    Your power:
    Helz
    You're Helz.
    You can use all Powers in the game, except Meme, including Mafia special ones
    You win when you have had an effect on votes worth 10 vote points as a living player (which means your votes, your support votes, the items you used, the items you gave to others and were used, and the abilities you performed all count towards that goal while you're alive).
    When you win, a random Towny dies and you leave the game.

    Spoiler : Powers :

    Vanilla
    You've no special powers

    Vote Enhancer
    At night, you may gift a player of your choice a '1-use extra -0.5 support vote power for the day' item.
    You may not target yourself.
    If you're Mafia:
    • You may choose to alter the strength of the item to +0.5 or 0 or -1 or -1.5.
    • You may choose to double-count each lynch vote on the user for the day when they use the item.


    Priest
    At night, you may gift a player of your choice a '1-use doubled support on self for the day' item.
    You may not target yourself.
    If you're Mafia:
    • You may choose for the item to have no effect.
    • You may choose to affect their lynch power by up to 1 point for the day when they use the item.


    Auditor
    At night, you may target a player, and receive a full list of when and what items they have received.
    If you're Mafia:
    • You may choose between learning their past targets or learning their role.


    Inspector
    At night, you may target a player and learn how many items have been going in+out of this slot total, and how many of those items were nonstandard.
    If you're Mafia:
    • You may choose to blackmail the player in making a default item for you. They're not informed.


    Confiscator
    At night, you may target a player and remove all items in their possession from play.
    The player you target is informed.
    If you're Mafia:
    • You may choose to keep the items.


    Slot Normalizer
    At night you may target a player. Their votes as well as votes on them will be unaffected the following day.
    Target is not informed.
    If you're Mafia:
    • You may choose to additionally affect either the power of their lynch vote and/or their support vote by 0.5 points.


    Day Normalizer
    At day, you may activate your ability, which will cause all vote manipulations to fail for the day. This ability is one use. Not announced.
    If you're Mafia:
    • You're also informed of any items consumed today.


    Coroner
    At night you may target a dead player and learn all their targets, their items, as well as what roles visited them and when.
    If you're Mafia:
    • You may choose to take their items for yourself.


    Lookout
    At night, you may target one player learning who targeted them that night.

    Doctor
    At night, you may choose to protect someone from death for the night.

    Roleblocker
    At night, you may choose to Roleblocks a player.

    Vigilante
    At night, you may choose to attempt to eliminate a player.

    Meme
    Once per game, you may at night to choose to reveal yourself as a Meme the following day. If, at the end of the day, your slot has the lowest final vote score, you gain a permanent additional +1 lynch vote power.
    If you're Mafia:
    • Your team wins the game instead of the permanent additional lynch vote power.



    Role Selection
    Choose as many numbers between 1 and as there are players -1.
    Consult the following list:
    1-30 Vanilla
    31-55 Vote Enhancer
    56-80 Priest
    81-82 Auditor
    83-84 Confiscator
    85-86 Slot Normalizer
    87-88 Day Normalizer
    89-90 Inspector
    91-92 Coroner
    93-94 Lookout
    95-96 Doctor
    97-98 Roleblocker
    99 Vigilante
    100 Meme
    Now add each of the randomized powers to a random Town or Mafia slot, 1 for each.



    Possible Feedbacks
    Spoiler : Feedbacks :

    Vote Enhancer's target
    You've received the item"1-use extra -0.5 support vote power for the day".
    You may use it during the day, before EoD.

    Priest's target
    You've received the item"1-use doubled support on self for the day".
    You may use it during the day, before EoD.

    Auditor
    Your has received item X on Night 1.

    Inspector
    X amount of items have been going in+out of this slot.
    Y of them were nonstandard.

    Confiscator's target
    Someone removed all items from you!

    Confiscator
    (Mafia) You've confiscated items x y z!

    Slot Normalizer's target
    No Feedback.

    Day Normalizer
    (Mafia) Items x y z have been wasted today!

    Coroner
    Your target visited x during Night y.
    Your target has these items in their possession:
    Your target was visited by role A during Night B.
    (Mafia) You've taken all their items!

    Lookout
    Your target was visited by x/y/z tonight!

    Doctor
    No feedback.

    Roleblocker's target
    Investigative roles: "No Result".
    Everyone else: nothing.

    Vigilante's target
    Vigilante killed you. You're dead!

    Mafia's faction kill target
    The Mafia kill you. You're dead!

    Meme
    You gain a permanent additional +1 lynch vote power.
    You didn't gain a permanent additional +1 lynch vote power.

    Helz
    You won!


    Win Conditions
    Town: Eliminate all Mafia players and Helz.
    Mafia: Outnumber Town players or be in a situation where that cannot be prevented.
    Helz: You win when you have had an effect on votes worth 10 vote points as a living player (which means your votes, your support votes, the items you used, the items you gave to others and were use and the abilities you performed all count towards that goal while you're alive).


    Mechanics
    Mafia have a faction kill. Not mandatory. Is assigned. Can't be used alongside with role powers.
    Days last 48 hours, Nights last 24 hours.
    Item use has no limits.
    No Last Wills or Suicides.
    Death Notes are allowed.
    Maximum of 1 day skip.
    Death desceptions by Mafia and Vigilante kills are not distinct.
    Mafia specific powers have to be chosen when submitting an action.


    Order of Operations
    Night Day
    1)Roleblocks
    2)Doctors
    3)Kills
    4)Inspector
    5)Vote Enhancer, Priest
    6)Slot Normalizer
    7)Coroner (Mafia before Town)
    Confiscator
    9)Auditor
    10)Lookout
    1)Meme announcement
    2)Day Normalizer
    3)Vote Influence Calculations:
    3.1)Addition and Substraction.
    3.2)Multiplication and division by Helz's given items/abilities.
    3.3)multiplication and division by everyone else.
    4)Vote Scores calculation.
    5)Lynch
    6)Extra support vote power
    7)Helz win condition
    Meme


    Rules
    Forum Mafia Rules apply.


    Voting mechanics inspired by Helz
  19. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Withdrawal from Afghanistan

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    ►►Re: Withdrawal from Afghanistan◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    They have been killing themselves for thousands of years. The biggest thing I see as changed is that now small warlords have giant tanks and cannons they can do it with.
    Maybe so, but inside a Mosque? I'm not a Muslim but even I think suicide bombing inside a Mosque is just insane.



    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    The leadership on how withdraw happened was impressively incompetent. Hopefully it will stand as an example of exactly why you should listen to the advice of professionals in your field when you have no clue what you are doing.
    Compare it to how it took the Russians 8 year to fully withdraw all their forces from the Baltic states after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. \_(ツ)_/
    [Wiki]
    But ok those are not comparable


    It was Trump who promised that though, and Biden was just respecting that agreement.

    I'm just wondering though. Will the US now expand less tax money towards the military or will nothing change in that regard? Your medical and education bills are kinda legendary around the world \_(ツ)_/
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    Thread:Withdrawal from Afghanistan

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    ►►Re: Withdrawal from Afghanistan◄◄

    It seems like it's not going well for Afghanistan.
    In a suicide blast inside a Shia Mosque, in Kunduz, killed over 100 people. It's the third deadly attack this week apparently targeting religious institutions.
    If you want a source, it seems every news media in existence has covered it - take your pick. If it's all the same to you, I got it from video description in a recent UN Watch video.

    How in the world can any Muslim do suicide bombing inside a Mosque of all places? They've gone completely mad.
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    [WIP] ►►Re: S-FM D e m o c r a z y (14P)◄◄

    Tbh, this gives me Illuminati vibes more so than Politico vibes for some reason.
    For the intended WIFOM regarding the Conspiracy Theorists, making the setup rng be like in Illuminati would increase it. (From ~25% chance to have evil CT to like ~50%)
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    [WIP] ►►Re: S-FM D e m o c r a z y (14P)◄◄

    Is this the most private chats any SC2Mafia setup has ever had?
    Seems more centered around private chats than vote shenanigans. \_(ツ)_/

    I'm not a big fan of Conspiracy Theorists tbh. It's sort of like having a sheriff with a Last Will. And if one of them is a Mafia, I honestly see no reason for Mafia to not kill the Town CT and for the Mafia CT to claim Citizen. In both scenarios - it seems powerful for Town. Town would probably just discuss CT's target in the thread I imagine, and they'd just comply.
    I feel like a nerf is necessary. Like make it 1-shot and N2, or give the Mafia a framing ability.
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    ►►Re: Request: Doctor should be able to save people with heart attacks◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Hi cozy
    (づo◕‿◕o)づ╰(*︶`*)╯
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    ►►Re: Request: Doctor should be able to save people with heart attacks◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Apo refers to Apo with the third person
    Ozy refers to Apo with the third person
    Ergo, Ozy is Apo?!

    ALT DETECTED
    No.

    Apo doesn't use
    Nor does Apo use "ikr"
    Nor does Apo use "nor"

    Apo and Cozy are very different!
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    [WIP] ►►Re: S-FM D e m o c r a z y (14P)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I don't really have ideas for power roles, actually...
    Spoiler : Town :
    Citizen
    You are fantastic!

    Gunsmith
    At night, you may gift a player of your choice a 1-use extra support vote power for the day.
    You may not target yourself.

    Armoursmith
    At night, you may gift a player of your choice a 1-use doubled support on self for the day.
    You may not target yourself.

    Auditor
    At night, you may target a player, and receive a full list of when and what items they have received.

    Confiscator
    At night, you may target a player, and remove all items in their possession from play.
    The player you target is informed.

    Detective Detective/Lookout/Motion Detector
    I personally like Motion Detector the most.
    I personally dislike Detective the most, assuming Moofia can use items while performing faction kill.

    Authenticater
    You are overpowered for this setup therefore you do not exist.

    Disabler
    At night you may target a player. Their votes, as well as votes on them, will be unaffected the following day.

    Tracker
    You're no fun either, go away.

    Shaman
    At day, you may activate your ability, which will cause all vote manipulations to fail. This ability is one use.

    Conspicuous User
    You may use your extra support power item as a gun or your doubled support power item as a vest the following night.
    or
    You may transfer your items to someone else.
    Spoiler : Mafia :
    Blacksmith
    At night, you may gift a player of your choice a 1-use extra support vote power or a 1-use doubled support on self for the day.

    Counterfeiter
    At night, you may gift a player of your choice a fake 1-use extra support vote power, or a fake 1-use doubled support on self for the day.
    For either of which you choose, you may choose it's effect between:
    -The items have no effect.
    -Their vote power and/or vote powers on them are reduced by 0.5.
    The fake items appear as real ones to the owner.

    Thief
    At night, you may target a player, you will receive all of their items.
    The player you target is informed.

    Graverobber
    At night, you may target a dead player, you will receive all of their items.

    Agent
    At night, you may target a player, and either watch who they visit and watch who visits the player you targeted.

    Blackmailer
    At night, you may target a player, if that player can create items, they are then blackmailed to make an item for you.
    The item in which they make are random from their capabilities.
    The player is not informed.

    Multitasker
    You may use up to two items at same time.

    Conspicuous User
    You may use your 'extra support vote power' item as a gun or your 'doubled support power on self' item as a vest the following night.
    or
    You may transfer your items to someone else.

    Mafioso
    You have no special abilities.

    Rigger
    At night, you may rig a players last item.
    Any attempt to use a rigged item will result in the item failing and the players death.
    The rigged items appear as real ones to the owner.
    Spoiler : Other :
    Witch-for-Item-Giving-Abilities, Busdriver-for-item-receiving
    You exist because you're fun.

    Town Interceptor
    You deny a player all items they receive for the night, but you learn all the items - including if they're real or tempered with.

    Mafia Interceptor
    You intercept all items a player receives for the night and get them yourself.
    Also you're a porch pirate.

    Roleblocker
    You exist because why not?
    Also, you're a Instagram model.

    Mafia
    You guys can trade your items because it's funnier that way. ( ͡ ͜ʖ ͡)

    Neutral
    Code:
    You may use all the abilities in the game, excluding Rigger.
    You may target yourself.
    Once, you may steal someone's vote power for a day.
    
    You win when you've had influenced the game by a total of 10 Vote Power.
    When you win, you exit the game and a random towny dies.

    Spoiler : other other :
    Double the amount of possible roles by making a day version of each role. Day versions aren't item givers but active influencers.
    Spoiler : other other other :
    just make a 9-3-3 from SC2, except:
    -Mafia have the same roles as Town except buffed.
    -All roles are modified for vote manipulation. (e.g. Vigi removes vote power for a day while a doctor restores it. Faction kills can't be affected.)



    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Hey, it looks like it'd work super well! It could be interesting to see what the Congressmen would do with their votes, considering they have their own little chat. Do you think it's fine and not a waste to just copy Politico here and make some changes to adapt it to the voting mechanic? ^^
    If politico didn't exist already, I think it'd have been some interesting.
    But playing an actual carbon copy of an existing setup, with just mechanical change, sounds.. boring? At the very least - making it does. Honestly, I'm the wrong person to ask. I never even played Politico before judging it uninteresting. \_(ツ)_/
    I was just pitching



    Spoiler : Offtopic :
    Btw, in the Smiths, I think there are some... oversights..:
    -red Conspicuous User has 4 charges while green Conspicuous User has infinite
    -Some roles have "1-use night armour" while others have "1-use armour/vest".
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    ►►Re: Request: Doctor should be able to save people with heart attacks◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    well there already is a big red warning that spams itself at you before you heart attack
    Ikr

    Apo forgot
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    [WIP] ►►Re: S-FM D e m o c r a z y (14P)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I might not do it with all roles. The idea was to include the Lawyer as a public role without it being the equivalent of an Innocent Child with a buffed antivote; the intent is not to make a mayor-focused setup.
    As it is, I don't think the Corrupted Lawyer would ever use their ability until before the final day. Real Lawyer would always CC them.

    I understand it correct that if a Lawyer ability is activated N1 - players would know about it only after seeing the vote results at EoD2?
    I don't think the Corrupted Lawyer would want to be a CC until before it's MyLo or LyLo. The solution? Have D3 have the potential to be a LyLo, which is 7v2 setup.



    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I dislike flipless setups, but that's just my personal taste :P maybe there's some potential? I'm not sure why there would be more potential here than anywhere else, though.
    The idea was to have many roles such as the Lawyer without each flip lowering the PoE mechanically and keeping the game pure, if that makes any sense.
    Sort of like a mixture of All Stars and Small-Town Mafia, but themed more like Politico.

    Speaking of Politico, what do you think with just Politico with this vote system?
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    Poll: ►►Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I like what I'm seeing here it would be great to make a thread about this post-game. While I do agree plurality + majority is generally much better than majority only, I believe majority only has its uses in some specific setups such as this one.
    I think you misspoke here and meant "plurality only" instead of "majority only". Because I know how much you hate games without plurality.
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    [WIP] ►►Re: S-FM D e m o c r a z y (14P)◄◄

    I would enjoy seeing how "vote +1 or -1" changes the game.
    Deep down I hope it wouldn't at all, because in that scenario I do think it'd be fairly anti-town to ever end a day with a veto vote. After all, only 1 slot gets lynched per day while many others don't - and if my math is correct then that makes lynch votes much more influential than support votes. (Unless there's a different or alternative EoD affect than Lynch)

    I personally kinda prefer MM's version over Helz's because I imagine there's 0 incentive for people to use veto votes given how powerful are lynch votes by comparison.


    This might be a little out there, but I think there's some potential in this setup for making it alignment flipless?

    MM, what's the idea with having same Mafia role as Town role? The Mafia will have some form of Janitor role?
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    Poll: ►►Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    majority yeeting was the meta back in the day because they didn't know better.
    Us, and every other community still to this day. \_(ツ)_/
    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    /unreserve.

    I think Lag's great, but I cannot, in good conscience, support super scum sided mechanic of majority yeeting.
    This stance is unnecessary strong for the topic imho, it's not as black and white. For example, Day1 majority lynch is slightly worse than for other days - but it's just enough for hosts often to disable it for D1.

    Me personally, I'd be less inclined to join a game without Majority lynch - games with it are just more fun and I'd join them instead.
    The majority of the FM world seem to agree that games are better with Majority than without. it's doubtful that they're all idiots.

    To me, this is like taking away a stick from a child because they might hurt themselves.
    How much does the child hurt himself with the stick here? Luckily we have the benefit of hindsight by looking at the Majority lynhches of the past. We can be objective.

    Voss, if you want to show how bad of an effect Majority lynch has on games - I think you can just show all examples of 2021 that Majority lynch affected badly?
    I had to scroll down to Lazy FM to find the first that I could even begin to consider - but it turned out to be a counter claim lyncn and a F5 lynch where all towns voted one of the 2 Mafia.
    Before then it was all counter-wagonless lynches, or Mafia lynches, or both.
    I was honestly too lazy to check any further, for I was already convinced that Majority lynch has a good affect on the game more often than not.

    To the question of how much does the child hurt himself with the stick - apparently, it's a rubber stick as far as I can tell from our games.
    And even if it wasn't the case - removing it would still remove an aspect of gameplay.

    I'm kinda curious tbh. There's so many aspects in game setups that affect their balance. This is one of the lesser ones. Why this strong attitude towards this one in particular?
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    Poll: ►►Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)◄◄

    Imagine playing on a site that says
    Having fun is allowed
    ( ͡ ͜ʖ ͡)
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    [WIP] ►►Re: S-FM D e m o c r a z y (14P)◄◄

    veto f2claim role
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    ►►Re: Light_Yagami Random Bullshit Go◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    You Forgot The Phlegm..
    Idk what you mean tbh
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    Thread:My Perma-Ban on MU

    Thread Author:Helz

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    ►►Re: My Perma-Ban on MU◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Firebringer View Post
    Semi related to this thread but i know of someone who got banned for calling a mod a racist on MU. It was like two years ago. So lesson learned mods can call you racist and ban you, and you get banned when you call them racist. They got a perfect system =)
    Don't take this personally, but I'd trust your statement only with a source, to see it for myself that there's really nothing more to the story.

    I've learned to not take such statements at face value. Last time I did that, I was lead to wrongfully believe that the MU mods had bullied someone to suicide in the past - until I did my own "research" and saw that the proclaimed dead person has had alt accounts that they played on still years/months after the fact.
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    [WIP] ►►Re: S-FM D e m o c r a z y (14P)◄◄

    veto Jester
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    ►►Re: Australian submarines◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    What the heck does that have to do with kangaroo-powered submarines Ozy?
    Idk.
    Ask Helz and MM \_(ツ)_/
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    [WIP] ►►Re: S-FM D e m o c r a z y (14P)◄◄

    A probably bad idea:
    -Have game be 3v9
    -Have Day1 be lynchless, but the _Major Election Day_. Major's vote power is doubled.
    -Have 1 TP be a Doctor.
    -Have 1 MP be a Roleblocker.
    -Have 1 MP be a Backup-Roleblocker.
    -Maybe give the 3rd Moofia a 1-shot cleaning.
    -Have 1 TP be a Motion Detector.
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    ►►Re: Australian submarines◄◄

    What's funny about democracy that it's not as democratic as it could be with today's technology.
    Ohh, you think you can choose politicians to vote and that makes it so power and civic responsibility are exercised by all adult citizens?
    This is not 3000 years ago when the most "democratic power" you could give your citizen is give them vote on who will govern them, and those in turn had to gather in 1 room to debate while being rich enough to have no needs.

    I do believe our ~3000 years old governing system could be improved. Idk how, but it just has to be possible.
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    [WIP] ►►Re: S-FM D e m o c r a z y (14P)◄◄

    Instead of putting that extra vote method in each role cards, I think it's more convenient to just add it under _Special Mechanics_.

    Loving the democracy theme btw.

    In most game days, more often than not EoD consists of 2 main wagons.
    I feel like as it currently is - this new voting system would change basically nothing, as I believe most people would be inclined to Support the counter wagon of their preferred lynch. Though, in practice it might be different and worth testing.
    But I rather people can just choose between support vote and lynch vote, as I believe that'd have a higher potential to bring interesting results - especially if different days hold different values for each type of vote. As an added benefit, it'd make the hosts life a lot easier.

    What 3p role are you thinking?
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    ►►Re: Interesting off-site experiences◄◄

    Wait did I actually confuse naz with noz again?
    Jeesh
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    ►►Re: Interesting off-site experiences◄◄

    I like the voting idea tbh.
    -vote Lynch X
    -vote Not X

    Simple as that? People can choose between voting either pro or con a lynch.
    For experiments sake, could even make each day have different vote powers: Day1, pro votes are 1 power and con votes are 2 power; Day2, pro and con votes count evenly; Day3, pro votes are 2 power and con votes are 1 power.
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    Thread:voss is worse than hitler.

    Thread Author:Plotato

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    ►►Re: voss is worse than hitler.◄◄

    I'd expect great things from a Helz and aamirus child.
    I suspect that Plotato was adopted tbh.
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    ►►Re: Double Standards in Racism and Sexism◄◄

    Anyone remembers Achmed the dead terrorist? A Jeff Dunham puppet?
    Apparently, he's big in Israel. So big in fact that Jeff Dunham is their favorite comedian.

    Meanwhile, Sweet Daddy Dee puppet had to be retired because of accusations that it's racism.
    Bubba J puppet on the other hand has had no such problems, and I'd argue that it's the most "insulting" of all his stereotype puppets, while Sweet Daddy Dee was the least "insulting" one.

    A double standard kinda. \_(ツ)_/
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    Poll: ►►Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)◄◄

    Good luck guys, assuming this starts now.
    Especially to Paopan good luck in getting a Town role.
  45. Forum:Circlejerk

    Thread:Favorite computer language

    Thread Author:OzyWho

    Post Author:OzyWho

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    ►►Favorite computer language◄◄

    As some of you may know, I'm secretly a computer genius. Having learned every computer language there is, and every other computer stuff shenanigary, I can positively say that the 2 best computer languages are LOLCODE and Brainfuck.
    For anyone wondering why that's the case, don't bother. The reasons are too sophisticated to explain. No no no, please don't misunderstand. I'm not saying that the reasons are too sophisticated for your brains, I'm just saying that I wouldn't know how to put it in words.
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    ►►Re: Interesting off-site experiences◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Lag View Post
    Recently played in a game offsite where rather than using PMs on the forum for feedback + action submissions, a single Discord server with all the players in the game was used. Mafia chat was in the same server as well.

    The way to make this work without leaking who mafia is based on name colors/roles in the server is that each player is given their player slot as their role. So the person in slot 1 is given Role 01, slot 2 is given role 02, etc. Then if slots 2 5 and 12 are mafia, you just give roles 02, 05, and 12 permissions to view the mafia channel. It doesn't leak who is mafia because all other players can see is that someone has role 02, but they have no way of knowing if role 02 has access to the mafia channel.

    Overall being able to put all channels of mod to player communication + feedback + mafia chats + role assignments in one place on one discord server was very convenient and it's definitely they way I plan on running any future games
    Yah, I was banned for a few hours on all Guilio's games, after I told him I can see channel and category names that I shouldn't be able to see, because he does that for all his games and he names each players channel alignment indicative.

    I don't mind this method, I think it's good, but just be careful how you name the channels as names can be accessed.
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    ►►Re: Interesting off-site experiences◄◄

    I've been thinking about why is it that some sites exist that don't take D1 serious at all. I think they themselves make it not worth while, because a productive game day requires 2 things:
    1) some level of seriousness
    2) some level of activity.
    If people allow Mafia just goof around, then really nothing is meaningful anymore.
    If this is true, then the sad truth is that policy lynches are a necessary evil?



    MM, btw, about that French site that you mentioned.
    It reminds me a little bit of this quote:
    (the response to someone asking for mechanical solving tips)
    It’s an aspect of Mafia that we don’t always practice around here, given our penchant for claimless games. Even when claims are legal there is still some hesitance to *do it*, and mechanical solves either never come or are significantly delayed. We also don’t tend to run HEAVILY mechanical games. The influence of sites like HeroClix Realms, Naruto Forums, and Mafia 451 on our own games can be beneficial in that way.
    (source)
    It seems like multiple sites have distain towards claiming and/or mechanical solving. At least in respect to Syndicate, @MartinGG99 can probably confirm or deny if it's still true today.

    Very much the opposite of FoL/ToL. Here's a quote from a neighbor's chat with regards to someone coming from there:
    they come from a site where people typically ignore red checks, for good reason-A while back in that sites history, people used to fake red checks a lot
    This I feel like @CRichardForumLies and @Noz_Bugz can confirm if it's still like that today on their site.
    (btw, why are there so many FoL players on colosseum? )


    I thought that not allowing claims is common for IRL and Werewolf communities. You mentioning a French site I guess means it's not that common? It'd be hard for me to believe anyone here has played on more sites than you. :/
  48. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:My Perma-Ban on MU

    Thread Author:Helz

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    ►►Re: My Perma-Ban on MU◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Now, I don't want to ruin the fun, but aren't we currently beating the same point over and over with the same arguments (and with a consensual conclusion)?
    Will you marry me?
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    ►►Re: Light_Yagami Random Bullshit Go◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    Love it.
    Nothing beats Ahmed The Dead Terrorist but this on same league dawg.
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    Poll: ►►Re: S-FM 334 (Ladder): Once Upon a Town in the West (Small-Town Mafia) (13P)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by PQRnHack View Post
    Pizdec
    eto prosto pizdec
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