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  1. Forum:Forum Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Gambits

    Thread Author:Helz

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    ►►Re: Gambits◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    (Off-topic from the OP)



    I've actually heard from some players on other FM communities that I am in that D1 scum lynches (though I haven't checked the stats, nor do I have enough experience to tell) have had leaned towards historically bad games / scum wins. This is because 1st impressions from D1 can be or are very important and if the setup is not made to last like 5+ day phases or more at minimum then a D1 scum lynch can cause people to make mistakes; especially if they misread a bus as a townie push onto scum or a townie push on D1 as just simply misdirection even though a lot of people are generally wrong to some degree on D1.

    This isn't generally the reason why I will D1 bus sometimes, though.
    Funnily, I think this was not the case when I first started playing. I wonder why that is.
    When I first started playing - usually if a scum got lynched on D1, Town would end up winning the game; and when scum won games, usually Town would fail to lynch even a single scum.
  2. Forum:Forum Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Gambits

    Thread Author:Helz

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    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir View Post
    Started last summer with SuperJack and Auwt introducing me to it and coached by Varcron. I did play sc2mod in WoL more than a decade ago and similar games IRL so there is that ;p



    I wouldn't say carried lol but my reads and PoE were influential enough to lead town into consensus and box the scum. We had multiple fake claimers so it was interesting imo. I will DM you the link to MyLo in discord.

    I also agree that the whole fakeclaiming is done on Day 1 to create cover for actual PR's and I am glad you noticed what I mean with site meta. I haven't seen it being done much here while it is quite common offsite.




    I totally agree with you. D1's on this site is so weak, have we ever lynched scum on D1 here? I bet some of you did years ago but did it happen lately? I can't remember. Little amount of posts, almost no scumhunting have been the trend lately here.

    Does it mean we have good scum players? Do we allow scum players have more freedom? A lot of stuff to think about..
    the meta on sc2mafia has changed, and not in a good way tbh. wall posts for example were a big thing ~3 years ago and ppl would push others for reads. nowadays we just sit back and say "umm this post is scummy because... x and y"
  3. ►►Re: Ye atheists by name, lend an ear, lend an ear◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    okay but realistically, atheist should be an umbrella holding both agnostic and gnostic atheists, rather than just hard-associating it with gnostic ones. i believe that is banana's desire and it seems perfectly reasonable..
    why do you always end your sentences in ellipses?
  4. ►►Re: Ye atheists by name, lend an ear, lend an ear◄◄

    I got them mixed up. Yes I am taking that to be a different definition.
  5. ►►Re: Ye atheists by name, lend an ear, lend an ear◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    How is that definition different from what I said?
    From your definition it follows that everyone is an agnostic; from Merriam Webster’s, it does not, as definitely all religious people and all atheists have a belief with regards to the existence of God(s).
  6. ►►Re: Ye atheists by name, lend an ear, lend an ear◄◄

    Knowledge is based on facts, IMO. Not faith. So religious belief is not characterized by ‘knowledge’. I don’t even understand why the second definition exists. It doesn’t look like a position separate from theism and atheism. Like that seens to be just a theological position a theist would have, and for an atheist that would be more an immediate conclusion of their beliefs, because you can never prove that something doesn’t exist.
  7. ►►Re: Ye atheists by name, lend an ear, lend an ear◄◄

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/agnostic
    Merriam Webster uses a different definition, with agnosticism being about neither believing that God(s) do(es)n’t exist nor that he/they do. There’s a different definition used there as well but that does not matter.
  8. ►►Re: Ye atheists by name, lend an ear, lend an ear◄◄

    That definition... by that definition everyone is agnostic. Even the most hardcore religious believer has some doubts, and don’t “know” for sure.
  9. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:The Legend of Honest Man

    Thread Author:ZZorange

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    I was looking at an old replay today and ZZorange was in it. He helped me Lynch an evil (with no leads, just a d2 random), whereas the rest of the town was just kinda... idk dumb? Also I had a default name and didn't get targeted.
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    ►►Re: Join me in no masturbation for 2 months.◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    I don't recall any recent memories of more ignorance than this. Like this couldn't be any further from truth lol.
    (Speaking mostly about male brain here)

    YourBrainOnPorn guys I think gathered all the research in one place on their website. Though it gotta be said - it was better many years ago in the beginning. It was concise back then. Now it's a mash of everything.

    They also made animated series on YouTube. I didn't know about that. Would watch it, if I didn't watch their public talks and presentations already in the past.
    Lol. Time to delete my search history again. And I thought my constant cat videos were embarrassing.
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    ►►Re: Join me in no masturbation for 2 months.◄◄

    I'm sorry, not masturbating turned them CONSERVATIVE AND RELIGIOUS? WHAT?
  12. ►►Re: The US can maintain ite superpower status with these 6 easy tips and tricks!◄◄

    People are more selfish than most would assume. This is both a good thing and a bad thing (and no, not for "capitalism" reasons). As for utilitarianism, well... whose utility are we talking about? If you're talking about utilitarianism, people are going to prioritise their own utility (which goes back to individualism). So I don't see how your conclusion led you to where it did.
  13. Forum:Signups

    Thread:FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)

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  14. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:The Legend of Honest Man

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    Quote Originally Posted by SevenForce View Post
    Does anyone know what happened to Toast?
    He was in a game yesterday
  15. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:The Legend of Honest Man

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    Quote Originally Posted by HentaiManOfPeace View Post
    ^ Because he usually died N1/D2 for his gamethrowing history. Are you sure you don't have survivorship bias?
    are you sure you don't?
  16. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:The Legend of Honest Man

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    tbh I've played with ZZOrange and before and in game, he didn't seem that bad to me.
  17. Forum:Signups

    Thread:FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)

    Thread Author:Mike

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    ►►Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    /sign cant wait to be killed night 0
    can't wait for you to be 3p, in a setup with no 3p
  18. ►►Re: Ye atheists by name, lend an ear, lend an ear◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Your doctrine I must blame...
    https://www.keepbelieving.com/sermon...hy-do-i-doubt/

    I know there are a few people here who basically think Christianism (like other religions) is a load of bullshit that should not exist. To those people, I'd like to ask what they think of the link above. Doesn't this actually help people live better in your opinion, even though you believe they are mistaken in their faith? I think the author of this page really tries to help people and probably very much did, no matter whether his religion is right or not.

    Bonus points if you actually know what the title refers to lol
    You accuse us of having religion. Why didn’t you use the word? Our kingdom is of this Galaxy.
    We do not have religion. We have history.
  19. ►►Re: Ye atheists by name, lend an ear, lend an ear◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Lol what? I believe religion is 100% necessary for the word considering how many stupid people there are and how dangerous stupid people can be. Just wanted to clear up for MM that his new idol was a cunt
    Like Hitler was necessary you mean?
  20. ►►Re: Ye atheists by name, lend an ear, lend an ear◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    I haven't touched the link, but that religious people are on average happier and that religion can improve a person's life is nothing new.

    On the other side is stuff like Islam's attitude towards non-muslims, or some Christian parents disowning their child when they become atheists.

    There's good and bad. What's this topic about? Was it just about the assumption that Atheists think there's nothing good about religion?
    I think some do. Not all, to be sure.
  21. ►►Re: Ye atheists by name, lend an ear, lend an ear◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz View Post
    I do not really qualify as someone who "thinks Christianism (like other religions) is a load of bullshit that should not exist." but my most significant issue with the way faith is pushed is that its often used to tie people to the 'power structure' behind a religion rather than to the religion itself.
    I liked that article in that it addressed the subject of doubt although it also did some things I dislike such as 'speaking for god' in statements like "God never turns an honest doubter away." I am not gona say that is wrong but I am going to say that the author very likely has no permission from God to speak on their behalf.

    I personally believe doubt is very healthy. It represents freedom of thought and it destroys the control of power structures.
    I agree. I feel like that tone is a bit passive aggressive. Usually when people say that they're looking down on you and subtly implying implying they're better than you
  22. ►►Re: Ye atheists by name, lend an ear, lend an ear◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    If Hitler saved somebody's life, would you say he did an horrible thing "because he's Hitler"? I never said the guy was Jesus xD. I also hadn't read anything else from him and just randomly stumbled upon the article I linked. What you found doesn't remove any value from the words that were right.

    On another topic, what you quoted is the exact reason why people tell the church to fuck off many times, and rightfully so when they have such retarded positions. Apparently, God didn't create gays... nah, they probably rose from the ground one Friday on the thirteenth of a month, right?
    Dunno it seems to me you're arguing with someone who hates religion and would take any chance they get to prove religion comparable to Hitler
  23. ►►Re: Ye atheists by name, lend an ear, lend an ear◄◄

    Fanatic atheism is cringe
    Fanatic is cringe
  24. ►►Re: Ye atheists by name, lend an ear, lend an ear◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    If Hitler saved somebody's life, would you say he did an horrible thing "because he's Hitler"? I never said the guy was Jesus xD. I also hadn't read anything else from him and just randomly stumbled upon the article I linked. What you found doesn't remove any value from the words that were right.

    On another topic, what you quoted is the exact reason why people tell the church to fuck off many times, and rightfully so when they have such retarded positions. Apparently, God didn't create gays... nah, they probably rose from the ground one Friday on the thirteenth of a month, right?
    Gays are a myth created by Emmanuel Goldstein in order to sow malthink and malbelief (thoughtcrime) and to cause carnal lust in the mind of a goodthinkful Party member, comrade.
  25. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Imagine going to Vegas for gambling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    What the fuck does this even mean
    herro I can engrish
  26. Forum:General Discussion

    Thread:Imagine going to Vegas for gambling

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    this thread should've died long ago imo
  27. Forum:Setup Workshop

    Thread:S-FM Sengoku Jidai (13P)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I guess it could work. But on a personal taste level, I'm not a fan of giving town the ability to decide nobody wins because they're in a bad position. If you want to allow skips, you could limit them to one per game instead.


    That still leaves many people that scum have to kill or CC without having a factional kill, though. The issue would remain. What do you intend to solve with this change? And as you said, it'd be a quite significant nerf for the Sleuth.
    I thought of giving every townie in the game (apart from the Town Killing) a TPR rolecard regardless of if they actually aren’t the PR.
  28. Forum:Signups

    Thread:FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)

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    ►►Re: FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)◄◄

    I don't mind flipless setups. But for the love of God, if you do play a flipless setup, don't Illuminati hunt lol
  29. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    Oh and since I'm in control of this slot, I can say with impunity that Frinckles did no wrong. gg
    Not this game, no :P
  30. Forum:Signups

    Thread:FM- AllStars 14p-16p (Old School)

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    Quote Originally Posted by WrathCyber View Post
    I sign
    haha nice
  31. Forum:Serious Discussion & Debate

    Thread:Stress cures

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    ►►Re: Stress cures◄◄

    I try to frame the problem in terms of me not thinking enough (or in other words, stupidity). Very often this turns out to be indeed the case.
  32. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)

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    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post
    I'm scum reading you Lag because you placed a player on L1 less then 6 hours into the day without even one player posting yet that could possibly claim sheriff. You've done this before I've even posted the reasons for doing what I've done.

    After our chat post game if you think I would do to you as scum what I did the first game then you must've not believed a word I said to you.
    You were easier to read back in the day btw. You've changed your meta after you left the site in 2019, prolly back to your original town meta (before you started FPSing). I found you easier to read back when you were more aggressive when are we gonna see aggressive blink again??

    the AtEs you pulled back then were real asf I don't think you ever faked one of those lol
  33. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Do Admins actually play arcade?

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    Maybe I'm tinfoil hatting too hard here but, you said the thought police doesn't let you say FreePalestine? I'm confused, the Democratic Party in the US is a known Palestine supporter (as is the UN), so uh... if anything I think it's the other way around lol
  34. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Do Admins actually play arcade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    wow alrighty
    as a Jew I feel obliged to point out that this is correct even though what Veliare is (really) saying is bullshit
  35. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)

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    ►►Re: S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)◄◄

    I must say I prefer nightless games. I hate having to wait for 24 hours before I can play again.
  36. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)

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    ►►Re: S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)◄◄

    I've noticed that usually when I pull off gambits its town that gets angry at me for pulling them whilst scum just mostly stays silent. So this game I went really meta with my gambiting and decided to see who would react if I tried to pull off an insane play. And then when i had enough reactions I would just point to my breadcrumb and go 'sorry guys, I needed this for my PoE' and then just reveal who is scum and who is town
  37. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Do Admins actually play arcade?

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    You ppl and ur fake problems lol
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    Thread:Do Admins actually play arcade?

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    Oh I agree with what he said here, (on admins and the arcade).
  40. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Do Admins actually play arcade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veliaire View Post
    Half of it is cracking jokes, but it comes from recent world events. I happen to believe that Israelis are modern day Nazis for what they are doing in Gaza and the West Bank and I wont be bullied by the PC police into staying silent.
    If you honestly believe that shit then you're just a dumbass. No offense.
  41. Forum:Archived S-FMs

    Thread:S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)

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    ►►Re: S-FM 328: Lazy (6P)◄◄

    821 posts for a 6p game
    dayum
  42. Forum:Mafia Discussion

    Thread:Do Admins actually play arcade?

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    Thread:Do Admins actually play arcade?

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    Nazi is a bit meh. I would have other things to say though, other than Nazi...
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    ►►Re: S-FM 329* Wilder Wilder Wastelander ('10'P)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    The citizen game was an almost traumatizing experience though. Had to rethink my FM hard after that one..
    Voss stopped signing for hidden setups after that game
  45. Forum:Forum Mafia Discussion

    Thread:random FM poll

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    Poll: ►►Re: random FM poll◄◄

    I think its a necessity
  46. Forum:Setup Workshop

    Thread:S-FM Sengoku Jidai (13P)

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    edit: changed vote to plurality because fuck hammers
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    Thread:S-FM Sengoku Jidai (13P)

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    [Ready for Review] ►►Re: S-FM Sengoku Jidai (13P)◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    I'm thinking of removing PRs (other than killing roles) entirely now. I would consider leaving the Crier in as a self-confirmable role, but that's about it.
    What do you think of replacing the support Town PRs with some roles that counteract the Blackmailer/Disguiser/Ventriloquist?
    I would probably have to remove or revamp the Sleuth, as the ability would become near-useless. People don't use last wills that much if they're Citizens
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    Thread:S-FM Sengoku Jidai (13P)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Thoughts about this + removing one PR? It may not be optimal, but it should be better than straight up defeat for scum.

    Also, do not forget to make lynch mandatory (skips are not allowed). That's very important to avoid skip-skip-skip strategies.
    I'm thinking of removing PRs (other than killing roles) entirely now. I would consider leaving the Crier in as a self-confirmable role, but that's about it.
    What do you think of replacing the support Town PRs with some roles that counteract the Blackmailer/Disguiser/Ventriloquist?
  49. Forum:Setup Workshop

    Thread:S-FM Sengoku Jidai (13P)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Thoughts about this + removing one PR? It may not be optimal, but it should be better than straight up defeat for scum.

    Also, do not forget to make lynch mandatory (skips are not allowed). That's very important to avoid skip-skip-skip strategies.
    How about: if nobody dies for 2 days/nights, the game ends and everyone loses?
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