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    -vote JMW


    Bamboozled all of us.

    GG Scum
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    See? Like in my previous post, the first bit of the quote is quoted, except for some reason it keeps adding extra tags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snom_ View Post
    I did this where exactly?
    You denying the chat means you're siding with him.[/QUOTE]
    I must be slow how does me denying a chat mean I’m defending finkles. (I would say somthing rather rude here but I didn’t actually read the rules for the site and I think getting banned is not advisable)[/QUOTE]

    By assisting in the push against me you are helping his cause. That's what I am saying currently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    You guys aren't using the tags properly.

    [Tag] blah blah blah [/tag] <--- the slash closes the tag.
    Ye that's what I'm typing when I manually do the quotes

    But when I do a reply it sometimes isn't working
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    I don't know why the quote via reply system isn't working

    It's bothering me.
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    Frinckes/Snom/Clowns are guaranteed teamed as scum seeing as Snom has gladly defended his partner in crime.[/QUOTE]
    I did this where exactly?[/QUOTE]

    You denying the chat means you're siding with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    wat
    WHaT
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    If the town is smart (MM/Martin/JMW for sure and perhaps Bakura)

    Then you put your vote on Frinckles and save the town another day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcron View Post
    the game is solved

    Now all I can hope is that we actually have a 5v3 situation vs a 4v4 situation.
    instead of a 4v4*
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    the game is solved

    Now all I can hope is that we actually have a 5v3 situation vs a 4v4 situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snom_ View Post
    QUOTE=Varcron;971572]You deny being in a chat with Bakura and MM?

    Shocking that my prediction (AKA the reason I put you in the chat with them) was correct.
    I see what you did there. MM and Bakura are scum and will try to say I’m in a chat and I’ll be lynched and you’ll win. That’s kinda smart. To bad literally no one scum reads me. Somthing that can’t be said about you.[/QUOTE]

    unfortunately with it maybe being a 4v4 there is a pretty high likelihood town loses anyways

    Frinckes/Snom/Clowns are guaranteed teamed as scum seeing as Snom has gladly defended his partner in crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    hes a doubly stubbly crab with no subtly
    lol

    One of these FM games I should really type like I do in arcade, that would be fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snom_ View Post
    -vote Varcron

    Next time try lying more subtly
    You deny being in a chat with Bakura and MM?

    Shocking that my prediction (AKA the reason I put you in the chat with them) was correct.
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    Given that you've had ~10 minutes to think about it, now you'll type a response which looks vaguely well thought out knowing you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    ( Í ° ÍŸÊ– Í¡°) do you want me to spell out that i know you're scum or what

    i thought you'd want some subtlety since the damn day just started.
    I wouldn't ask you to spell out my role if I wasn't 100% certain that you couldn't.

    You stalling only emphasizes the accuracy of that statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snom_ View Post
    Not to bad. I’m looking into building a new pc and there’s far to many options it’s getting really anoying checking everything for every part.
    cool!

    what parts are you looking at to build off of?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcron View Post
    You're attempt to explain that you were using a 5 head genius play really isn't hitting home with me dude.

    Onto the replacing into a slot thing, I understand the criticism doesn't go away (I read Ashoka's ISO and it wasn't that great), but I also expect that as a new entry to be given the time to develop my own reads before instantly being pushed and hammered based off of statements I may not necessarily have seen or heard.

    In terms of being scum, you already basically outted yourself today after I heard your reads and role (which you still haven't answered my question about)
    Your*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    It could have. It wasn't but it definitely could have been.



    Sure thing bonebro.



    So @ your other comment: replacing into a slot doesn't instantly mean that criticisms of that slot go away.

    But related to my above comment to JMW, I fully anticipated scum trying to paint me and clowns on a team together.

    Naturally if I'm capable of typing something like "Shaken and Destroyed", then I make a prime candidate for being Mafia with Clowns. You could argue I'm coaching him ("did frinckles tell ya to vote there?) or protecting him (derailing wagons on clowns.)

    Really, it all makes perfect sense; Even if it's untrue. But scum never jumped on it and I think I know why.

    When you present scum with a perfect storm, so to speak, they don't always go for it. Why? Because while it's a solid argument to get them lynched, both parties know it's a falsehood. It is an instant confirmation to the other player that they are scum. Opportunism is risky.

    Basically, they didn't take the bait.
    You're attempt to explain that you were using a 5 head genius play really isn't hitting home with me dude.

    Onto the replacing into a slot thing, I understand the criticism doesn't go away (I read Ashoka's ISO and it wasn't that great), but I also expect that as a new entry to be given the time to develop my own reads before instantly being pushed and hammered based off of statements I may not necessarily have seen or heard.

    In terms of being scum, you already basically outted yourself today after I heard your reads and role (which you still haven't answered my question about)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    My advice is free and honest. Ask Bakura and then from your point of view you'll either know what I know, or you'll have your scum team right?
    Still dodging the question

    I don't need to ask Bakura when you could just tell me what I ask.

    That is, if you're truthful about your role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmw View Post
    Well time for me to go to sleep. I don't plan on prolonging this day for 48 hours if it's really 4v4 and we have to win 3 coin flips, but I want to at least use the information I was finally able to get from my role before I do. Good night and good luck.
    G'night

    I think if it isn't 4v4 then lynching Frinckles will likely by us a day or two. Unfortunately we don't know that though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmw View Post
    You're wrong on at least one there, not that it matters.


    Sure I bet he is.
    tbh the only one I think could be wrong would be Bakura

    In which case Snom imo would be the next one in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    If you think I'm lying, you can ask Bakura to confirm his two chats with me.
    You're dodging the question
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    I honestly thought Clowns was Mafia for a good while and wanted to keep him in the game but at this point I think he's just LHF people want dead.
    You thought clowns was mafia...

    So you lynched Jelly who was less likely to be mafia than clowns, makes sense.
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    -vote Frinckles


    My vote remains here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    my role literally gets all the abilities of the role it copies. da fuq you talking about
    Uh huh

    Tell me what my role card says then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    There's nothing fake about that scumteam.

    AT - "townconfirmed" slot that refused to help solve, threw away votes, went after town. That's scum. I know how scum plays.
    MM - Most likely to have typed Shaken and Destroyed. We've already exhausted multiple other possible authors for the line and we know it came from scum.
    JMW - least pushed slot in the fucking game telling me my scum list is fake. lmao, lol even.

    Go ahead and vote so I know who's town this game.
    You know who is town because you are scum, Frinckles.

    You're blaming my slot for refusing to solve, yet I only arrived yesterday to begin solving.

    This isn't even to mention there were 31 pages to read through (over 1200 posts) before I even started dealing with this.
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    My town core I feel is correct with MM/Myself/Martin/Bakura seeing as the last one (SB16) who I had as lock town is now dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmw View Post
    To be clear, I don't plan on revealing what information I have until all 3 players I've asked have claimed their action / lack thereof.
    Not that I can really do anything about it anyway if they stay silent, but at the very least I'll have my solve.
    Chat was between MM/Bakura/Snom

    They can confirm once they get on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    That's not your whole role.
    I find it funny you act as though you can see my role card.

    spoiler alert: You can't, and you're wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    well we're in an incredibly bad situation that we probably never crawl out of (re: grey area) or proceed to somehow win multiple ties in what might as well feel the most undeserving town win

    so like

    I kinda just stopped caring about things
    Tbh mark my words Frinckles is the neut, scum team guaranteed at least has Clowns in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    why don't you tell Martin all of your abilities Varcron?
    My only ability is to give 3 people a night chat, which cannot be the same people that I gave a chat to the night previous.

    My slot has clarified this for multiple days now, so don't start hurling the scum paint at me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    Varcron(AT)/MM/jmw makes some sense.

    I told Bakura in our second chat that I was a doctor. He's more than likely town because if he wasn't -- I'd be dead. (assuming mafia cant just check my role)
    Tell me how my slot is linked to JMW

    MM is my top town read yes, except you are not playing like a towny Frinckles currently.

    This is Frinckles when he's open wolfing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmw View Post
    @Bakura1 @Varcron @Marshmallow Marshall please claim your actions last night.

    Since the game's probably over, I'd at least like to find the whole scumteam. And I have mechanical information that, following action claims, nets a scum 100%.
    Our only chance currently is to have all the town vote on Frinckles and force a 50/50

    Unless we can convince him to vote Clowns with us (likely an actual scum) and pray we have a town killing role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Bakura/Frinckles/Snom is the possible follows I said in chat for that night....

    I guess its yolo-worthy

    -vote Varcron


    or JMW

    I wonder what his even-night tracker result will be for today
    This is an incredibly bad vote on your part

    I expected more thought behind it.

    MM, Bakura, and Snom were in a chat last night, as I said last day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snom_ View Post
    I’m confused. Finkkles is scum aligned neutral or scum? And clowns is getting smacked with insta votes because?
    Frinckles is currently acting as scum aligned neutral voting against the town.

    What his exact alignment is is unknown currently; however, I can confidently say with a 4v3v1 town cannot vote him out without forcing a 50/50 dice roll.
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    -vote TheClowns


    I wanted to do this yesterday but was not back in time for EOD

    That train on jelly was not good at all. He was an unknown yes except we could have spent 1 more night learning more about his slot before bonking him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    idk what you mean by this

    is this some ancient mech knowledge from a lost culture of long-gone FM players
    The two unknowns are Jelly and Snom


    I don't have a solid opinion on them
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    List seems preety good to me imo

    though maybe switch out Bakura for Jelly

    Jelly is kinda the biggest unknown I have since they're self-voting and that could either be short-sight towniness or just scum opting for a possible bus
    That would make to unknowns be with a known, that's the problem.

    Although I'm sure MM could handle it, I'd rather have two townier people rather than 1
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Last night the discussion between me, SB16, and JMW worked well.

    But I don't know if we should repeat it or switch someone out for another. I don't mind doing again -- as it can be quite useful, but IDK if my chat-mates think anyone else being in there would be better.
    My plan was actually to get you, MM, and Stealth in a chat

    But the problem with that is there's a cooldown on who I can select to chat each night, so in order to make best I have to find others

    Currently my idea for tonight is MM, Bakura, and Snom (I really want the town to get some info on him cause he slot has incredibly little information)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    @Varcron Martin was attacked last night, I healed him. He's literally confirmed town XD. No need to try to get a read on him. But yes, I strongly approve of this list - although I am not entirely convinced about your slot
    *Internal D1 Screaming*

    Unfortunately the owner of this slot put 2 of the people I'd like to make chat in a chat already last night..... Sadge

    [QUOTE=Stealthbomber16]Who the HELL made the chat between Bakura and Frinckles/QUOTE]

    Not my slot, I just checked all of the previous actions that I had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Why Frinckles town? Frinckles has done nothing but soft an investigative claim and vote low hanging fruit today.
    I think Frinckles is likely town because he seems to genuinly be attempting to solve at least based off of his last day or two's worth of posts.

    As much as I dislike the flip floppyness I can give him a town pass because the pressure is giving information to the town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    I think if @Varcron can keep producing chats then it makes it less likely that he's a mafia architect/JOAT, given MM's claim indicating JOATs would be shot-limited. In other words: If he's not a JOAT, or very unlikely to be one, then I think his slot is town as stated in previous days.

    I'm quite inclined to vote inside of Frinckles/Bakura today. Not so much in Jelly/Clowns/Snom, as I feel some of them have a decent chance of being a town.

    @10000JellyDoughnuts

    Current game-state is 6 town and (probably) 3 mafia with 1 neut. In other words, when it comes to town having 51+% voting power, we cannot afford to mis-eliminate anyone. Otherwise the mafia alongside the neutral could force a coin-flip if they desired (which is really bad if it works). If you're town we need to start seeing that --- NOT self-votes. Self-voting to reveal some truth to rest of us is not worth anything if we don't have to power to act upon it (which we won't if you are day-eliminated as town).
    Chats will keep happening, I can promise you that.

    It's just a matter of deciding who would be the most productive in each chat in terms of discussion and solving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    Stealthbomber16, JMW, MM, and I are town. You disagree for x or y reason or tinfoil? Deal with it.

    So the challenge now is to, FMPOV, find the remaining two town in:

    Ashoka Tano (Varcron now), Frinckles, Bakura, TheClowns, Snom, Jelly

    Varcron's slot very likely town for previous reasons, but possible to be otherwise given JOATs outside neuts can exist.
    IMO This read list is good and towny

    For the time being I'd have Frinckles as the last town out of the list along with me, but other than that everything looks okay here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snom_ View Post
    Hypothetically no
    Give me your opinion on the Clowns debate, I don't think you've mentioned it at all so far in your previous posts.
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    I've done a little bit of reading so far on a few people.

    It's fascinating how Frinckles in the past ~30 posts of his ISO has flip flopped between MM, Clowns, and Ashoka (my slot). It's rather odd imo since he usually has his focus for a day honed in and not constantly flipping.

    I also don't understand his justification for voting this slot due to the lack of pressure it gave on Clowns, it doesn't quite make sense to me.

    Although reading his ISO I would note that that entire slot is a massive red flag currently, but seeing the confusion and discussion amongst everyone I will not lay a vote on it yet.
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    Just as a forewarning I have not really kept up with this game (didn't expect to need to replace anyone) so I am quite behind. I'll do my best to get some basic feelers out as well as try to see what the general consensus on this and other slots were from everyone.
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    Hi folks

    It's a pleasure to meet all the new faces here, excited to play with you all.
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