S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD

Oh ffs

-unvote

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BananaCucho

I used to be one of the biggest proponents for policy lynches back in the day

And the reason why I harped on about that was because it was being framed as "banana is scummy" when really it was "banana is annoying". These are 2 completely different situations.

---

Okay, how about a Ren lynch? I didn't like how he switched from scumreading to townreading you.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SuperJack

Frinckles shouldn't be lynched just because he does not want to devote the entirety of his free time to filling up the game. What reasoning is this to lynch Frinkles? Its not like Frinkles hasn't contributed.

---

Thankyou SJ, VWERYcool.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by theoneceko

Okay, how about a Ren lynch? I didn't like how he switched from scumreading to townreading you.

---

If Renae is lynched I replace out.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SuperJack

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post864751

---

LOL

Also, where is @Noz_Bugz ? AFK as usual, I see.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by theoneceko

Okay, how about a Ren lynch? I didn't like how he switched from scumreading to townreading you.

---

I'm not sure I ever scumread BC. I included them in a list of players who I was engaging with, which I may have mistankenly said was scum. The list of BC, Varcron, Aami, and you was merely pointing out what I thought was odd behavior. In BCs case, the lack of spam was the focus of that discussion.

So please point out where I switched. I never called BC scum.

BananaCucho. Please stop threatening to replace out. It's not very good sportsmanship.

I'm almost done w errands, I should have time to catch up when I'm home

So mafia knows no matter what there's a lynch so they don't have to do anything to win? How lame and boring

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SuperJack

BananaCucho. Please stop threatening to replace out. It's not very good sportsmanship.

---

+1 UmU

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by naz

I'm almost done w errands, I should have time to catch up when I'm home

So mafia knows no matter what there's a lynch so they don't have to do anything to win? How lame and boring

---

That is why we have to lynch responsibly, town can afford only so many mislynches.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by naz

I'm almost done w errands, I should have time to catch up when I'm home

So mafia knows no matter what there's a lynch so they don't have to do anything to win? How lame and boring

---

It's as if its towns job to expose the mafia.

A three vote scum plurality could become exceptionally powerful unless other players are active and voting....

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by theoneceko

Also, where is @Noz_Bugz ? AFK as usual, I see.

---

OH

OH

OH

When Nozzy is afk? "where dat bitch"

When Pringles is afk? "who cares, imma kiss his ass when he comes by tho"

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BananaCucho

OH

OH

OH

When Nozzy is afk? "where dat bitch"

When Pringles is afk? "who cares, imma kiss his ass when he comes by tho"

---

This times 10000000000.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SuperJack

BananaCucho. Please stop threatening to replace out. It's not very good sportsmanship.

---

Its not a threat. Its a promise. Enjoy this game when I'm gone. Or dont. You do you.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by naz

I'm almost done w errands, I should have time to catch up when I'm home

So mafia knows no matter what there's a lynch so they don't have to do anything to win? How lame and boring

---

Which is why rewarding lurking is as anti town as anyone can get.

Okay, so here's a summary of what happened so far:

Me, SJ, and frinckles are teaming against rene and BC. Right now, I think Frinckles and SJ are town.

BC wants frinckles or gane dead
rene wants frinckles dead
naz wants frinckles or gane dead. I think she'd rather have gane dead tho.
aami kind of wants frinckles dead

Maybe I'm being simplistic, but it looks like scum are voting together here. However, I think @naz tallah is the least scummy of that bunch. If she switches her vote to renren, I'll be happyUwU, since it's unlikely gane will be lynched at this point.

Also aami, I don't want you lynched today so no need to sweat about that ^-^ You're the second-least scummy of the group I put you in.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by theoneceko

Same reasons as Varcron, basically. I played with BC, and he seems to be playing town meta. However, aami is still a mystery to me.

---

didn't we have this argument earlier? lol

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by theoneceko

If multiple people are the same color, then I see them equally within that group.
BananaCucho - Most solid so far. He scumhunted and defended himself in townie fashion. The only thing that concerned me so far was his quick defense of aami.
Ganelon - You said I was scummy because of my seriousness early on. At first, this confused me and ticked me off. However, after re-reading, I now understand why you think I'm desperate scum (I'm not scum though lol). Also, we may have more in common than you think. Your defense of Frinckles could be interpreted as town desperately trying to contribute and get the game moving.
varc - He didn't scumread aami, y'all. He just wanted to see what reactions an aami train would cause. In fact, aami and varc are playing quite similarly!
aami - I've reconsidered my argument against her, and I think it was pretty weak. Aami's trains drove discussion, which town needed early on. However, you didn't provide reads on anyone except me, so you're still a bit mysterious. If you could give us your reads so far, that'd be great.
Oh btw, I want a strong towncore this game. Can you see your tunnels on each other as TvT? cuz that's what I see it as ¯\_(ツ)_/¯UwU
naz - The logic behind her reads seems sincere, but she's lacking original input. It's possible that she's sheeping BC and aami.
SJ - He started out strong, but hasn't posted much recently.
nozbug - Noz contributed even less today, even though she promised to do the opposite. She posted twice today and twelve times the night before.
Here are my MAIN reasons why I think frinckles and rene are scum:
- Their very first votes were on aami.
- Neither of them explained their votes. They just hopped on the aami train after I posted a wall on her. Maybe they thought that with my help, they could get aami lynched.
More on them below...
frinckles - The way he explained his read list is interesting. When he claimed scum were hiding in his null reads, part of me wanted to believe him. However, he can use that trust to mindfuck me. For example, I can see beenckle making me see his null reads from HIS POV instead of mine. However, besides his vague null reads, frinckles's list is solid.
rene - He launched attacks at several players, and not much else. I think that instead of driving discussion, his posts are sowing distrust in town. Calling his attacks as "scumhunting" is generous. For example, in his longest post, he tried to scum-paint aami for townie behavior. It sucks if that's the best you can do as town.

---

I dunno how I feel about your Ganelon or SJ reads.... Ganelon in my opinion was trying to get townpoints and buddy with Frinkles by defending him in my eyes, and SJ hasn't really said anything wrong, however could be seen as coasting. Personally I'd go after Frinkles before Ren Ren (I mostly want to hear more from him, but I would be down for a lynch too) cause personally I think Ren has contributed (attacked kind of) sort of like he has in the past as town.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by theonceko

I think you've been BS'ing with your meta talk though. Making varc look for something that isn't there. RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEE

---

I stopped with the meta stuff right after that conversation end, didn't follow up since my brain would have exploded.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Ganelon

Oh wait, you said you can also see me doing that as scum, fair enough. I do actually do that as scum as well, but I don’t think I’m being inconsistent... aamirus asked me to vote someone other then you because then she would sheep me.

i think we should lynch Renegade because I don’t like how he tried to white knight me. I cannot read naz, last game she was scum and I couldn’t read that, I think naz needs to be more thoroughly pushed before you see something AI from her, otherwise you just see naz.

I just don’t like how Renegade is trying to be appear to be helpful by posting statistics lol, that reeks of scum not knowing what to say. And as I said, statistics is misleading. Scum win this setup a lot more often than you’d expect, precisely because they take risks and bus.

i don’t understand why people are saying SJ is scummy, I have no read on SJ right now.

i think I’m townreaidng aamirus but somewhat wary in light of the troll ‘I-am-scum’ posts. I don’t think they mean anything, but seems a little extreme to still be joking about that this late into the game. One game I think blink tried to paint me as his scum buddy early on and I really didn’t like that, and turns out he was scum.

---

Disagree, I think Frinkles is a higher priority lynch than Ren simply because we know for a fact that him as town is a town leader. I don't know if he has something IRL to deal with currently, but I hate the coasting from him in every respect.

-vote Frinkles

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SuperJack

BananaCucho. Please stop threatening to replace out. It's not very good sportsmanship.

---

Agreed, but why did you vote me? Couldn't find anything page 10 onwards about it.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BananaCucho

Its not a threat. Its a promise. Enjoy this game when I'm gone. Or dont. You do you.

---

Then go replace out. I don't want to see this sort of Toxic behaviour.

-vote Frinckles

I can't spell

Tbh BananaCucho I'm more upset over you using ragequit/replaceout as a weapon rather than pushing for more content or a policy lynching.

One hour two minutes left in D1 guys, I probably won't be around for half of that.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SuperJack

Tbh BananaCucho I'm more upset over you using ragequit/replaceout as a weapon rather than pushing for more content or a policy lynching.

---

I understand your frustration. I took it too far.

-unvote

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Varcron

didn't we have this argument earlier? lol



I dunno how I feel about your Ganelon or SJ reads.... Ganelon in my opinion was trying to get townpoints and buddy with Frinkles by defending him in my eyes, and SJ hasn't really said anything wrong, however could be seen as coasting. Personally I'd go after Frinkles before Ren Ren (I mostly want to hear more from him, but I would be down for a lynch too) cause personally I think Ren has contributed (attacked kind of) sort of like he has in the past as town.



I stopped with the meta stuff right after that conversation end, didn't follow up since my brain would have exploded.



Disagree, I think Frinkles is a higher priority lynch than Ren simply because we know for a fact that him as town is a town leader. I don't know if he has something IRL to deal with currently, but I hate the coasting from him in every respect.

-vote Frinkles

Agreed, but why did you vote me? Couldn't find anything page 10 onwards about it.

---

You're behind buddy, my opinion of SJ has improved ^^
That seems like a simple way to describe Frinckles though. For what meta arguments are worth, his lurking is similar to last game when he thought he was Asylum Counselor. I think people are too eager to call his lurking scummy and push for a policy lynch.

This will be my last post. I messaged gry for replacement.

Enjoy your lurker game.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by theoneceko

You're behind buddy, my opinion of SJ has improved ^^
That seems like a simple way to describe Frinckles though. For what meta arguments are worth, his lurking is similar to last game when he thought he was Asylum Counselor. I think people are too eager to call his lurking scummy and push for a policy lynch.

---

You're right, he did think he was asylum counsellor in Insanity. I guess that kind of makes sense, but I still don't like it.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BananaCucho

This will be my last post. I messaged gry for replacement.

Enjoy your lurker game.

---

GOOFY!

AND IM BACK

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BananaCucho

This is the guide that Pringles linked before about how he's been trying to play as as town

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...8by-Newcomb%29

He has done nothing yet to try to form a town core and POE this game. Nothing. And when called out about it he's completely ignored the criticism. Could be just be super lazy? Sure. But he's not "townie" in any way at all. He is very much a big fat question mark null slot.

---

Odd. You say varc's read on your meta is shit yet you're pushing a Frinckles lynch because he's not playing "town meta." Sorry if I'm playing devil's advocate, but Frinckles got to L-2 too quickly. (Yes, I know you and aami unvoted. but still)

So first off I'm gonna towncore the following people:

theoneceko
Noz_Bugz
Varcron

so we can towntakeover outside of this.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Varcron

You're right, he did think he was asylum counsellor in Insanity. I guess that kind of makes sense, but I still don't like it.

---

I hope you catch up to the current Banana v Frinckles debate. I made some points about BC I'd like you to consider.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Varcron

You're right, he did think he was asylum counsellor in Insanity. I guess that kind of makes sense, but I still don't like it.

---

I didn't like it either. I just wanted to jump around and form a towncore.

Also was the first time I was ever lynched. :(

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Frinckles

So first off I'm gonna towncore the following people:

theoneceko
Noz_Bugz
Varcron

so we can towntakeover outside of this.

---

Noz isn't getting lynched today, but I think she should be null on everyone's list.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by theoneceko

Noz isn't getting lynched today, but I think she should be null on everyone's list.

---

Nawh, that tone is way too fucking pure.

(ew that's a blinkskater line)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BananaCucho

This will be my last post. I messaged gry for replacement.

Enjoy your lurker game.

---

Tbh you should be modkilled for this.

Gyrlander staring at an empty inbox
FeelsBadMan

Regardless I'm pretty sure Banana is town here. There's enough angleshooty apathy to go around so I'm fine with that slot or its replacement.

Would anyone like to push an info lynch candidate?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Frinckles

Gyrlander staring at an empty inbox
FeelsBadMan

Regardless I'm pretty sure Banana is town here. There's enough angleshooty apathy to go around so I'm fine with that slot or its replacement.

---

Huh? I don't understand.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Frinckles

Gyrlander staring at an empty inbox
FeelsBadMan

Regardless I'm pretty sure Banana is town here. There's enough angleshooty apathy to go around so I'm fine with that slot or its replacement.

---

Banana has not received any votes on D1.

Three mafia are in a cat discord somewhere who probably have some stupid/quirky interactions inthread when they dare to.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by theoneceko

Huh? I don't understand.

---

the whole "imma quit if I don't get my lynch hur dur"

Its a short depart from something Blink did to me a while back. Good times

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SuperJack

Banana has not received any votes on D1.

---

I feel that's indicative of town leader status. But it's plausible.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Frinckles

Would anyone like to push an info lynch candidate?

---

Renegade voted you and aami, and both were for weak reasons.

He has also been parroting BC recently. However, there's resistance against a Ren train.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Frinckles

Three mafia are in a cat discord somewhere who probably have some stupid/quirky interactions inthread when they dare to.

---

I forget Discord is the new norm now. Used to be QuickTopic.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Frinckles

I feel that's indicative of town leader status. But it's plausible.

---

Scum cannot actually kill him at night though so I don't know how they intend to get rid of a town banana in that case. So. Interesting point

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Frinckles

the whole "imma quit if I don't get my lynch hur dur"

Its a short depart from something Blink did to me a while back. Good times

---

Banana is very efficient at targeting emotions and using them.
They did it last game against me and know exactly what to pick at.

You can see it Today as they have posted more than once they refuse to even read me D1.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SuperJack

Banana is very efficient at targeting emotions and using them.
They did it last game against me and know exactly what to pick at.

You can see it Today as they have posted more than once they refuse to even read me D1.

---

Yeah, I played a game where he was scum. He convinced me to side with him using that same tactic.

38 minutes left y'all. OWO