S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD

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Originally Posted by theoneceko

When I scumread rene. What other info do you expect us to work with when deciding who to lynch?

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I.. don't remember why you scumread rent, only SuperJack's explanation stood out to me when I was reading as a reserve.

I expect you to read intent. I'm aware that the way I read people wouldn't be standard so I won't attempt to suggest you follow it. I also attempted to shoot two towns last game. So. Not a great track record.
... which is also why I have a problem with some of your ISOs (and pure ISOs in general) is that they don't take in consideration context, timing, votes, and other factors when a person said something.
Like your ISO on Frinckles was inherently biased. Now yes, we do ISOs on people we think are scummy, but you would need to recognize that bias and attempt to eliminate it.
IOW confirmation bias hurts ISOs

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Originally Posted by Ganelon

The reason I’m vague is honestly I’m pretty lost this game. I had a decent start but mucked it when I realized I wasn’t sure what was happening. I did not understand why I was scunread for defending Frinckles, especially seeing as there is never a good reason for lynching AFKs if you have reserves on hand.

I’m well aware my play this game has been pretty terrible thus far, and honestly I probably shouldn’t have signed up for this game right now. But, you reap what you sow I guess lol.

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If you want to play an FM, sign for a game. Your skill is independent of the games you should be let into. I had no problem with you defending Frinckles.

I don't think we should expect more reserves. It's already day 2. I think BananaCucho asked for a replacement and that's why one was made, but really we can't have lurkers lurking on this site. Players need to be posting in a text based game. Which is why it's in our imperative to PL AFKs, and in the chance that Noz is scum, somebody should show up to defend her.

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Originally Posted by Varcron

Night ceko.

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You know that people are calling you a lurker right? What do you have to say about that?

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Originally Posted by Varcron

Night ceko.

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I can't sleep lol. I'm going to chill and reread.

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Originally Posted by Ganelon

My reason for voting Renegade was not poor lol. I already explained that I felt uncomfortable with how closely Renegade had been buddying me, especially without providing an adequate defense of me. Tbh if you ask me it’s peollyfrinckles lol.

Beaides, my scum buddy would never, ever try to save me like that. I would’ve bussed the fuck out of me if I were scum, simply because shit like that is too dangerous for the scum team. Tbh, I don’t see scum defending each other in this setup. Aamirus is much more likely to be Renegades scum buddy because she tried to get me to push someone other than him, thus drawing attention away from me and also buddying me. The cynic would also say that she was trying f to draw attention away from Renegade as well, who had basically outed himself as scum by defending me in that manner. Then, she did point out Renegades scuminess, so there’s that.

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What?

@Ganelon quite a few of your posts are looking like you know what scum will and won't do. Them sort of posts make me scum read you.
But then I can work my head around wtf happend with the D1 lynch if you are scum. Because it doesn't make sense.

Green reply

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Originally Posted by Frinckles

I was playing the game before Banana went full wewlad, they just didn't like the way I approached D1. So your major scum flag doesn't make sense.
Banana was right about your low lazy content. And you only really started to participate afterwards.


What also doesn't make sense is you polarizing me and Ganelon on different ends of the spectrum. It's not unfair to suggest that Ganelon's vote on Renegade was earlier and hold less weight than yours or Ceko's, is it? Why am I the villain in your mind for simply pointing this out? He's not being lynched today.

Ive not looked at his vote. I looked at the fact that he was on A 50/50 draw based lynch against a goon and the situation caused by said goon. I can't see Ren creating that situation if Gan is also a goon.

It's more plausible we're both town, hence why I've put him in my townreads. I'm only pointing out something that is worth considering down the line and you're doing mental gymnastics about it lol
I find it plausible that Gan is town. I don't find it plausible that you are town. Trying to fit yourself in with Gan "if he's town I'm town" isn't something someone that is town would say. Tends to be scum that have to post about reminding people they are town.

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Originally Posted by secondpassing

I.. don't remember why you scumread rent, only SuperJack's explanation stood out to me when I was reading as a reserve.

I expect you to read intent. I'm aware that the way I read people wouldn't be standard so I won't attempt to suggest you follow it. I also attempted to shoot two towns last game. So. Not a great track record.
... which is also why I have a problem with some of your ISOs (and pure ISOs in general) is that they don't take in consideration context, timing, votes, and other factors when a person said something.
Like your ISO on Frinckles was inherently biased. Now yes, we do ISOs on people we think are scummy, but you would need to recognize that bias and attempt to eliminate it.
IOW confirmation bias hurts ISOs

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If it provides you any comfort, I was just too tired to do anything besides include quotes that made frinckles look scummy. This was because I thought frinckles wanted me to be less inconsistent, so in response I just tunneled him lol. Also, I didn't want my ISO to be too confusing.

If you didn't know already, I said my opinion of frinckles improved while creating the ISO. I hate to admit it, but your response to my ISO is townie. People who did scumread frinckles for my bad ISO, such as naz, are probably more suspicious. All she had to say about it was I provided "points," which is just too vague for me.

I think your posts have a lot of words, but don't have as much content as they first appear.

Also, your avatar change is annoying as fuck. I'm not townreading you because you're now a cute bunny like me, and I hope no one else does either. If you're town, I don't see the point in trying to look more townie with this avatar change. Looks pretty desperate to me.

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Originally Posted by SuperJack

@Ganelon quite a few of your posts are looking like you know what scum will and won't do. Them sort of posts make me scum read you.
But then I can work my head around wtf happend with the D1 lynch if you are scum. Because it doesn't make sense.

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1) Frinckles either made an awful call as town or is actually scum.
2) Ren was forced to self-press. Otherwise, gane would be confirmed scum on day 2.
3) Varc's vote was most interesting:

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Originally Posted by Varcron

Disagree, I think Frinkles is a higher priority lynch than Ren simply because we know for a fact that him as town is a town leader. I don't know if he has something IRL to deal with currently, but I hate the coasting from him in every respect.

-vote Frinkles

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However, he was a little uncertain of his vote:

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Originally Posted by Varcron

You're right, he did think he was asylum counsellor in Insanity. I guess that kind of makes sense, but I still don't like it.

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He was also AFK during EOD.

Maybe frinckles and varc were town and they just fucked up yesterday.

uWu

Frinckles, gane, SP, and naz are top lynch targets for me right now OwO.

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Originally Posted by Varcron

On that note let's drop that topic till the end of the game.

I'd prefer a Naz lynch over anyone else currently.

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Originally Posted by theoneceko

Frinckles, gane, SP, and naz are top lynch targets for me right now OwO.

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I'm up for Frinckles and SP.
We only need one more goon and we've won.

Vote Count
Noz_Bugz (2 [L-3]):*
Frinckles,*secondpassing
naz (1 [L-4]):*
Varcron
secondpassing (2 [L-3]):*
theoneceko,*SuperJack
aamirus (1 [L-4]):*
naz
Frinckles (1 [L-4]):*
Noz_Bugz
Varcron (1 [L-4]):*
Ganelon

lolll

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Originally Posted by theoneceko

If it provides you any comfort, I was just too tired to do anything besides include quotes that made frinckles look scummy. This was because I thought frinckles wanted me to be less inconsistent, so in response I just tunneled him lol. Also, I didn't want my ISO to be too confusing.

If you didn't know already, I said my opinion of frinckles improved while creating the ISO. I hate to admit it, but your response to my ISO is townie. People who did scumread frinckles for my bad ISO, such as naz, are probably more suspicious. All she had to say about it was I provided "points," which is just too vague for me.

I think your posts have a lot of words, but don't have as much content as they first appear.

Also, your avatar change is annoying as fuck. I'm not townreading you because you're now a cute bunny like me, and I hope no one else does either. If you're town, I don't see the point in trying to look more townie with this avatar change. Looks pretty desperate to me.

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lol u made convincing points but did i place my vote on him? no.
secondpassing summarizes my thought(in a post in reply to frinckles about how i take iso w a grain of salt) best when they wrote "confirmation bias hurts ISOs"

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Originally Posted by SuperJack

I'm up for Frinckles and SP.
We only need one more goon and we've won.

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is there anyone else? frinckles was at L-2 earlier so i think he might not be scum and i just can't stop reading into banana's replace out :/
if u say me lol fine but game won't end with my lynch

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Originally Posted by Varcron

On that note let's drop that topic till the end of the game.

I'd prefer a Naz lynch over anyone else currently.

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Originally Posted by naz

is there anyone else? frinckles was at L-2 earlier so i think he might not be scum and i just can't stop reading into banana's replace out :/
if u say me lol fine but game won't end with my lynch

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Varcron would be of interest. I've not had any good vibes from them. But I need to dig deeper into it. My focus has been on sp and banana.

Varcron should have a very good read on me though I think they called me out as the player who is easier to read. Something along those lines. I'll pull it up tonight if I've got the time. Unless someone else can do so.

Stupid multi quote phone user shite.

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Originally Posted by Varcron

I find you readable, Frinkles late game is fairly readable but early game is hell on earth to read.

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This?

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Originally Posted by Varcron

On that note let's drop that topic till the end of the game.

I'd prefer a Naz lynch over anyone else currently.

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Originally Posted by naz

This?

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Yeh. Has he given any reads on me?

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Originally Posted by Varcron

Interesting how as soon as I said you were a scum read you started explaining how you were fine with my lynch

-vote naz

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Also I've been fine with your lynch since the beginning of day 2 when I stated my lynch pool today is anyone who didn't vote Gane or Rene at EOD yesterday