I feel the pressure on my shoulders now to stop this night conversion!Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Once Upon a Town
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I feel the pressure on my shoulders now to stop this night conversion!Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Once Upon a Town
Shouldn't the game be over already if this was true?Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Mid-Atlantic
Which makes me think that Matrix 6 might have been a Wizard when they were executed.
Well, you tell us : you're the wizard ! I can't tell who was a member of my faction nor can I talk to the dead !Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Last Hope
We should start counting votes to estimate their mana.Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Mid-Atlantic
yeah, just hold your vote in place for now. I'll do some mathsQuote:
Originally Posted by FM-Once Upon a Town
Also, complete oversight on my part, but it's clear that a mind control was used at some point using 3 mana. thats how gravity died clearly.
That's great news, because that was my math :Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Mid-Atlantic
+2 Toons SoD1 = 2
+2 Hope SoD1 = 4
+2 Hope EoD1 = 6
+6 Toons EoD1 = 12
-10 Souls converted = 2
+2 Hope SoD2 = 4
+2 Souls converted = 6
+0 EoD2
+2 SoD3 Hope = 8
+2 SoD3 Souls = 10
+1 Souls EoD3 = 11
+1 Hope EoD3 = 12
yup, right at the cusp. gotta get it right. NOBODY VOTE ANYONE OTHER THAN BISECTED.Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Once Upon a Town
although, im afraid if wilder is converted than last hope just gave him some mana
So that is what the count looks like assuming a mind control-esque ability was used during N2 :
+2 Toons SoD1 = 2
+2 Hope SoD1 = 4
+2 Hope EoD1 = 6
+6 Toons EoD1 = 12
-10 Souls converted = 2
+2 Hope SoD2 = 4
+2 Souls SoD2 = 6
+0 EoD2
-3 "Mind Control" n2 = 3
+2 SoD3 Hope = 5
+2 SoD3 Souls = 7
+1 Souls EoD3 = 8
+1 Hope EoD3 = 9
So they were 1 off to convert last night
Don't votes only give mana at EoD?Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Mid-Atlantic
The wording on Toon's card shows that to be the case.
that would be correct. which technically means they can convert tonight. hence the delayed death. ouuffQuote:
Originally Posted by FM-Once Upon a Town
Alright I'll-vote Unvotefor now.
yes, that is correct. remove your vote. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Last Hope
oh good.Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Last Hope
Yes. Which also means that since our dear Wastelander can't roleblock them both, there is 50% chance that one of us is culted and probably looses :(Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Mid-Atlantic
If there is 3 wizards already it is still in our interest to vote them to give them as much mana as possible in the hopes of getting converted. Win-Win ?
I think there's away around that.Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Once Upon a Town
man, I am so fucking pumped. practically frothing at the mouth
nahQuote:
Originally Posted by FM-Once Upon a Town
No there's definitely not ! Well none that i, or them, should know about anyway. At least none that concern me since i can't do shit about it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Mid-Atlantic
no way am I giving bisected and last hope the win. fuck that
Mason detected ! :OQuote:
Originally Posted by FM-Mid-Atlantic
they can be easily bussed into themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Once Upon a Town
Also Matrix was most certainly the Neutral, if there was one.
Are you sure that's OoO compatible ? I guess we'll see tomorrow !Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Mid-Atlantic
I'd agree with you thereQuote:
Originally Posted by FM-Once Upon a Town
I'm like 90% certain. I was looking at Lag's previous hosted games and took a peak at their OoOs. especially a previous cult game. Cult was fairly low in OoOsQuote:
Originally Posted by FM-Once Upon a Town
Sweet ! Too bad it's changing this very night just to piss us off :(Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Mid-Atlantic
Anyway,it looks like we've done our part for now. See y'all later!
thank you for your serviceQuote:
Originally Posted by FM-Once Upon a Town
Poking my head in for a moment. I will kinda be in and out for the first half of the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Last Hope
Not sure why everyone is talking about silly stuff. If Once saw the correct movements but the opposite alignment the obvious answer is their role has an insane modifier seeing opposite/wrong alignments (If they are telling the truth.)
Something of note is that last night in my talks with Wilder they asked me to convert them in a very non-joking way. This suggests they are both not neutral (as that neutrals couldn't be converted) and are not cult themselves so take that for what it is. They pretty much have to be exactly town right now or you would have to WIFOM they knew I would realize that and pulled a smart move. Mentioning this because its pretty AI imo.
we've already figured it out. don't pay last hope any mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Silent Night
Just because you are so into it...Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Bisected Souls
N0 Me to Atlantic
N1 Atlantic to Hope (I infultrated)
N2 Hope to Me
N3 Me redirected to Wilder
What its called right now shouldn't matter but its a variant of Mellons
Im caught up now and just shaking my head. Fuck everything about the way this day started.Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Mid-Atlantic
If Once was not likely Insane Alignment Cop I would be pushing to sort between them and Last Hope. It does bring up the question of if this insane modifier is tied to the role or some evil action used on them.
Not sure if we were on the same line of thought there but a lot of the 'what if this and that' is simply resolved by assuming Once's peeks are either fucked with, a result of some 'insane' modifier on his role, or some sort variety of lie. Given how they responded I am leaning towards one of the first 2.
Im not sure what to think about Hopes peek. Kinda flys in the face of what I just said about Wilder. Coin toss on dying scum trying to take someone down with them and town advocating for one last catch before they die there. Also would be a 1v1 except again, one side is already kinda resolved without us knowing the answer.
Hopes flip will explain a ton. I feel like today is going to be a mess though. Once vs Hope Hope vs Wilder in a situation where a Hope lynch is not a viable solution.. Thats starting the day with half the players locked up waiting on a D5 flip. Bisected's ability may not be such a great thing for town after all although I doubt its by design.
im not sure what the fuck you're talking about. Once's feedback can literally be explained by my bussing. It's very clear here that Bisected and Last Hope are a duo.Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Silent Night
wilder is literally town, and im heavily inclined to believe once. I know you couldnt have been culted as well given my bussing
Maybe. I just got to skim the day from my phone while running around. I just saw weird feedback and assumed insanity modifier on a role at first.Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Mid-Atlantic
I will dig into it when I have time.
well dig at it hard, when you have the chance. Bisected is the correct vote here.Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Silent Night
i doubtQuote:
Originally Posted by FM-Once Upon a Town
i think the feedback is turned by 180*
so wizard feedback -> real town
town feedback->real wizard
thats my only explaination
it is possible, you can proofread scum into mids isoQuote:
Originally Posted by FM-Last Hope
Hello, I am finally here.Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Last Hope
This night I jailed and blocked Silent Night. He claimed Wizard, but he assured me that he was not a member of the Wizard Federation. Is that possible? Well, in a setup where the Amnesiac is a Town Power, anything is possible. The weak detail of his claim: first he copied his rolecard without alignment and factional abilities, and that was suspicious. I pointed on that and he fixed that (manual edit or true copypaste - I can't know). I made him an offer he (likely) can't refuse: he makes me a cultist and with my powers we win the game. But he insisted that he was not a cultist. I pushed that very hard: "hey, just confirm you are cult, do you want to win? we will! or maybe you already have another ally? it's Atlantic, ya? If I will join you, I don't even need to change my readlist, everyone thinks Atlantic is town", but he stood his ground: he is town-aligned Wizard with 3 abilities: anonymous messages, joining chat channels and... ability stealing (suspicious for town role, ya) and full bunch of Wizard Federation mana passives. I have ONLY one reason to believe him: why waste mana on anonymous messages when you can save it for convert?
We have a plan: He can steal my jail ability and I can remember doubler and double his jail, so we will perma-roleblock 2 players. But I realize I can roleblock 2 players without his help with my another jailor ability: the blackmail. That's the way I used it:
"Copy and paste your full rolecard, including alignment, faction and role abilities, in your first post of the day without any changes. If you do not, you will lose all factional and role abilities until the next day."
You can see it's a roleblock ability too. The only person said nothing about his role and abilities is Once Upon a Town. Thinking we should force him to reveal his role finally, I targeted him, but Bisected Souls received the message by this bus driving shit. I'm more and more inclined to believe that the mass redirection hurts the city more than it helps. Evil-aligned bus driver? As possible as town-aligned wizard, town power amnesiac and town investigative arsonist, lol. Anyways, I roleblocked Silent this night, looks like my jail cannot be redirected, or host just trolling me and all the game makes no sence.
Unfortunately my blackmail ability was targeting Bisected Souls, not Once Upon. If he lied about being a town, he wouldn't be able to use his ability until the next day, which is easy to check in the night chat, right @Bisected Souls?. I believe Last Hope has been an invest since he claimed it day 1. Less and less credible is Once Upon, which still does not tell us anything, and Atlantic, which confuses all nightly actions.
I think we need mass roleclaim today.
Bisected Souls lost his abilities if he lies about his alignment, and pushing him devoid of any meaning. He will easy prove he is not culted this night.
First we should ask Once Upon about his role and abilities.
-vote FM-Once Upon a Town
I can roleblock 2 targets, as I described. If Bisected Souls edited his rolecard, he is roleblocked.Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Once Upon a Town
xDQuote:
Originally Posted by FM-Mid-Atlantic
u r scum. After pupons post you scumpainted 3 players (wild, last, me) with incredibly stupid logic.
a joat performs his last ability, after announcing it one and a half cycles ago.
if everything was intented and planned, i would have needed to know
that gravity will be killed by wilder/or somehow else,
that gravity will kill last hope.
and that 2 days in advance.
Oh, I mentioned @FM-Bisected Souls incorrect. Read my large post above, please, it's important for you personally and all the town.
Once more: If he is culted, he can't use his party making ability now, because if he lies in his first post of the day, he lost all abilities until next day.Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Mid-Atlantic
how abt you say the full truth abt all busses and stop inventing out of the air?Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Mid-Atlantic
Scum.
omfg yesQuote:
Originally Posted by FM-Wilder Wastelander
tonight i will activate party host aka night thread
then im conftown
So
im self resolving
last hope self resolving
4 ppl left
wilder why didnt you send the same blackmail to everyone?
silent permblocked
3 players left
pupon, mid, wild.
pupon/wild not s/s
mid scum.
-vote fm-mid-atlantic
if you hammer me, you are scum.
if i die/flip, vote off mid. Please, i beg you
I agree, If he lies in post 1, he cannot use party host or any other ability.Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Bisected Souls
Because I can do it only once per night. And my target this night was Once Upon, not you.Quote:
Originally Posted by FM-Bisected Souls
Redirection f*ck this ability very hard. But jailing cannot be redirected.