Granted Super Jack Never Voted The Two Scum Either.
Correction : most of town didnt vote D2 because they did not want to hammer early D2
not early... w.e you get the point
Yeah I Get It
If the mafia is within SJ, Loldebite, WrathCyber, or myself, then we deserve to lose, and will anyways, because there's no way we live to f4 with how we've played. I'm not arguing on the behalf of any of these players, since if they are scum, they've lost.
If the mafia is within MM, Light, or Martin, then I think it'd be the most awful thing in mafia for genuinely good social deception to be cut short just based solely on mechanics.
I'm not arguing against my win condition, here. I think the last scum is probably within SJ/Loldebite/WrathCyber. So therefore, I think we're already in a winning position, and don't even need the fancy mechanical play. IF, however, the mafia is somehow within Martin/Lighthack/MM? They deserve the chance, however slim, to win. I don't think they SHOULD win, because that would be arguing against my win con, and I certainly would get out of my laziness if it were revealed that were the case. However, I think denying them any possibility is unspirited.
If mafia is within MM/Martin/Lighthack, they have a (admittedly very slim) chance at winning when they make it to f4. Even if the possibility is slim, if any of these 3 are mafia, would you deny them with mechanics even that very slim chance of victory? I wouldn't. I think that'd make for a very exciting f4.
Oh btw. It makes sense that even if it's against all odds and the scum is obviously caught to not concede.
Or else you get gameplay like "if X is scum why haven't they surrendered yet?"
I Noticed Something In The Player Order.. Every Scum Thus Far Has Been An Odd Number In The Player Line Up..
Could Just Be A Coincidence
Vipsy. Have free love you can't interact with until the game is over: <3<3<3
Btw if any of you really think I would never take the opportunity completely smash Ozy with a bus just shows I've been gone to long and I'm not as well known as I used to be :(
that you are evil*
Lag is almost certainly town. I would be very astonished if they did any of the stuff they are doing this game as scum. Giving town a mech lock way of victory (and I've explained why it would actually work)? That'd be insanity and you'd be betting on town like me standing up to it just out of principle.
Martin is very very likely town. Didn't do a full analysis of spew, but the spew I did get was that they were trying to use Martin as a sort of tool to attack Lag/MM with (MM did a so called "bad attack" on Martin, Varcron/Ozy attacked the two d1 and d2 for "strawmanning Martin"). Screams to me "white knighting", and very unlikely something a scum buddy would do to another scum buddy. VCA with S/S wagon makes it even less likely Martin would be scum, because he went from busing a partner to busing ANOTHER partner, which is silly since all it does is make both your scum buddies be under the spotlight, and you don't get significantly more town points anyways since you were already busing a partner in the first place. Final point, Martin slipped as town at the beginning of the game. More of a cherry on the top reasoning, if anything.
Lighthack, out of the town core, I would argue has the least hard evidence backing them up. D1 VC doesn't help them much (first vote is very easily a bus), I don't remember their slot being a significant voice against Ozy (They did vote them, but they were the third vote I believe, which is also an easy bus vote since the wagon had already picked up steam), and spew actually doesn't really help them (they kind of just TRed Light and left the slot alone).
Why I TR them, and why I presume others townread them as well, is simply meta, the way they've been playing, how they've developed their reads, and stuff like that. Light and PQR are fairly open players thoughts wise, and to me, the thoughts just flow very naturally, and they are very tonally townie as well. Their doubts regarding Lag didn't ever really seem like a way of attacking her credibility, but rather like someone who is genuinely skeptical.
I don't actually remember why I TRed MM. Pretty sure it's just meta based off the fact he seems more involved than last game. He also got attacked a lot by Ozy so there's that. Which could also be a point against him considering how Ozy was trying to build a team, likely to get rid of the most vocal town leader, and might have included his actual scum buddy for the purpose of getting at lag if MM ever flips...
Well, I'm not actually sure. That whole interaction is worth analysis but I don't really feel like I ever have time for it.
SJ is weird in that I don't really get what he's trying to achieve from any of his actions. He tried to argue Wrath was town just on the basis Wrath forgot someone. Also keeps trying to argue Lagiver is scum. Never quite saw his logic. If he's scum, idk what he's doing. If he's town, idk what he's doing. Hesitant to lynch. Starting to think this could just be town.
Loldebite is... Meh. Has kind of just been there this game. Would be willing to lynch.
WrathCyber is completely inactive. Was last vote on Mizery, so I suppose that's SOMETHING. Not much though.
In order of who I'd want to lynch....
Loldebite > WrathCyber > SuperJack > MM
Are my actions really that forgettable, Gikkle? :(
I've literally led the pushes on the two fipped scum (along with Lag) and more or less built the PoE myself. I didn't spam posts but still, come on! I matter too! :calix:
SJ could just be trying to play the ol "I'd never do this as scum, y'all are being silly :P" trick to try and get in our heads instead of actually helping us identify the last scum
like he's not actually been helpful at all today
As Me And PQ Have Discussed SJ And Loldebite Are Our Top Suspects..
Only thing keeping me from trying to save SJ is how utterly unhelpful he's being
He's even voting the one person we are absolutely never lynching today
Complimentary policy vote for afk play WrathCyber