@deathworlds is suicide allowed?
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@deathworlds is suicide allowed?
Fuck it
-suicide
-vote bananacucho
sorry, lag.
sorry, pqr, frinkles, brad, dum, stealth.
sorry, wrath.
Looks like Auwtberry's gonna let you live another day, Bananana.
Sorry Oliver.
I believe it is game anyway independantely of whoever we are voting off.
-vote oliverz144
oliverz144 has been hammered. Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!
oliverz144 (2 [L-0]): BananaCucho, Auwt
BananaCucho (1 [L-1]): oliverz144
"It's around that time folks, the ballot counters have been hard at work tallying up the votes from the electors, so far we know that it's been a surprisingly close race with our third party candidate taking a surprisingly high amount of the votes as one of the most successful third party candidates in almost one hundred years. A doubly surprising fact in that Gus Hall is a known communist, that alone should have been grounds for being essentially shunned from the election, but from what we hear, he has been getting a consistent amount of votes. So much so that in fact... This just in, this just in, it appears that Gus Hall has received a majority of the votes! I have the pleasure of being the first news broadcaster to announce our 40th President of our United States, Gus Hall of the communist party!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fzsQt6hz6A
The game has ended!
Gus Hall has received a majority of votes for winning the election, no sequence of events can change this fact or enable any amount of candidates to tie, hence the game is ending a day early.
Victory goes to BananaCucho the Russian Spy, and Lag the Conspiracy Theorist!
Players
Player Role Status @BradLand Security Killed n2 @Dum Pamphlet Distributer Killed n1 Renegade@PQRnHackFixer Killed n4 @Stealthbomber16 Very Angry Person Lynched d1 @WrathCyber Ballot Counter Lynched d4 @BananaCucho Russian Spy Alive @oliverz144 Voter Lynched d5 @Frinckles Voter Killed n1 @theoneceko Agent Lynched d2 @Marshmallow Marshall Political Scientist Killed n3 @Auwt Shadow Alive @Mizery Interceptor Lynched d3 @Lag Conspiracy Theorist Killed n3
You may find all action processing here.
You may find the graveyard chat here
You may find the Illuminati chat here
GG scrubs
@deathworlds is MVP for such a great setup
I ALWAYS KNEW YOU WERE THE RED KNIGHT OF THE PEOPLE BANANAQuote:
Originally Posted by BananaCucho
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-vote BananaCucho
Host thoughts:
I've said some of this in the graveyard chat, but this setup's balancing needs an overhaul. Frankly I'm disappointed in my ability to do basic arithmetic to balance the amount of votes (for the win-con) for each faction and their voting power (ability to pull off the lynch) during the day. Town lost majority very quickly in this particular game, and with the cult or serial killer neutral they will almost certainly lose it much quickly. The Illuminati had a particularly bad night 1 and night 2. They lost ceko very quickly (who was thankfully able to get their kill off), and Lag cracked the code through a combination of good math, host meta, and luck on night 2. Illuminati was in such an odd spot this game, they had minimal ability to manipulate the win-con vote, yet can easily represent a massive block of players for the lynch.
The setup it self has a pretty clear divide between roles that manipulate the win-con vote, and roles that actually interact with each other mechanically, I lacked a lot of the former in this setup despite it being the main gimmick in this setup. I gave town and the team scum as many tools as I could reasonably give (illuminati all interacted mechanically, and town has maximum TPR) and they still got smashed by a single powerful neutral, which has been a bit of a theme with my hosting in general. If I were to host this setup again, I'd likely give the Illuminati a factional convince ability they can use with their other abilities, and weaken them mechanically, or get rid of power roles all together with the exception of roles that interact with the win-con vote, I'm not sure.
The neutrals are busted, particularly the cult leader and the serial killer, they can amass a ton of win-con votes for their party, which is a problem because the team scum has less voting power than a single(unless cult) player. I'd likely nerf the neutrals, remove the investigative immunity and the 1-time night immunity from their respective neutrals. I think the arsonist is likely fine as it is.
The town got shafted this setup, despite being as strong as they could reasonably be (I was never giving them five sheriffs, lol) as Lag pointed out to me in the graveyard chat, their ability to win hinges on the d3 vote tally (which only appears after two rounds of voting, it really should appear after three to clearly show the disparity between the illuminati candidate and the town one) and the conspiracy theorist being able to crack the code, which is a luck based endeavor. A game of FM really shouldn't be decided by luck, so if I were to host this setup again I'd likely make the conspiracy theorist a full-fledged townie, and remove the fanatic and replace them with a town slot. Town simply does not have the numbers to compete, and had the fanatic been anti-town, town would've lost majority way too quickly in this setup.
Anyways, I'm probably going to retire this setup, I had an obligation to fulfill in hosting this again (after almost 7 years lmao) and it was interesting seeing people break down the math of this game and the perceived optimal play. Speaking of which, I disagree with the notion that town splits their vote between four choices, abstaining, third party, red or blue. Town really should never vote third party in this setup, every vote given to the third party advances their objective, which is against yours in every case. But who am I, the host, to argue.
99 votes to hammer.
To keep the thread from closing
oh and shout-out to MM, for being the ONLY PLAYER to "correctly" send me their night actions through pm (even though I allowed discord ones since I decided I wasn't going to be a hard ass about it, shhhh)
host, u did great! this was a complicated setup to host
i can be an asshole and i can be nice, which one of these am i? only i know the answer...
-vote BananaCucho
for MVP
gg
Oh that's right,
I made one host error to my knowledge, I forgot to send Wrathcyber their "vote has been changed" feedback.
Sorry guys :(
Yes, the setup definetly needs to go back into the Workshop. I hadn't even properly understood the mechanics behind the Conspiracy Theorist when I reviewed it lol, and Russian Spy is pretty blatantly OP. I think Banana would have won even without it being OP, though, considering he was really good at appearing solvy (probably because he actually was, since he wanted to catch illuminati just like us).
LOL :calix:Quote:
Originally Posted by deathworlds
I don't think the setup is unbalanced. Just swingy. Day 1 lunch and night kills easily can swing this in many different directions
Kinda impossible to not have a setup of this nature be swingy. And that's okay. Interesting setups like this while swingy should be encouraged IMO. They're fun even if things snowball outta control quickly
On that note I miss @RLVG
-vote bananacucho
succesfully fooled everyone
Gg everyone.
Not gonna lie was a bit hard when code cracked that early on + illuminati spotted.
Although I believe Russian Spy is a bit op (as I told dw in the discord), but congrats Banana, you did a great job !