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Re: S-FM 301: Standoff (Game Thread)
GAME IS OVER! The Town has won!
https://cdn3.whatculture.com/images/...movie-2000.jpg
The leader of the patriots has found him. He stumbled into town choking on his own vomit. He claimed he was poisoned and that he's the last loyalist. He didn't want to die slowly so... He wanted the town to put him out of his misery. The patriots all spit on him before they granted him a swift and painful death.
Ganelon was lynched/poisoned to death! His role was Blacksmith
Congratulations to Gyrlander, Auwt, MacDougall, DeathWorlds, Varcron, and Theoneceko!
Host Notes: Well... This game was the shortest game I've ever hosted, and the biggest landslide to a town victory I've seen in a while too. Scum lynched Day 1 and Poisoned Night 1. Ouch... ;(
To be honest I feel really bad for my scum team. Wiisp sort of got lynched for.. Some reason? (I will admit I wasn't fully following the game but from what I seen I still don't fully understand why he was the one to go day 1). And then Macdougall coming back night 1 to poison the last scum after not posting all that much sort of felt... anti climactic. I think the next time I host a game, I want to be able to have some sort of contact with ALL of my players... because I had to rely on some people to get in contact with Macdougall for me to let them know the game started. I was kind of looking forward to MacDougall playing a bit more but I understand they are pretty busy with other games and life. Oh well...
I liked Deathworlds this game and I liked seeing him play again. I hope you decide to come back and play more in the future! If I had to vote for a town MVP I'd vote him. His Last Will was also pretty impressive for a game that was solved and technically ended Night 1. I also have a vote out to Wiisp and Ganelon... purely because I felt like they didn't get to really do anything as a scum team. I didn't even get to make a scum discord chat for them! That's a first for me ;(
99 votes to hammer.. If you guys want to vote for an MVP feel free. I'd link discord chats... but I didn't get to make any... xD
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Re: S-FM 301: Standoff (Game Thread)
Town is on the winning streak now
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Re: S-FM 301: Standoff (Game Thread)
I also wanna add that I was just... In shock and completely baffled when MacDougall arrived into the first few hours of Night 1 and just chose to poison Ganelon... Little did he know he ended the game for scum in those very moments. I was hoping heavily that he'd return and change his mind... but it never happened.
Just wow XD
poor Ganelon ;-;
Edit: Something I didn't add to my End game post:
DeathWorlds chose to track Auwt N1.
Theoneceko chose to hide behind Gyrlander N1 (And it seemed like they thought they killed Gyrlander... which was a bit comical ngl Sorry not sorry).
We all know who MacDougall Poisoned Night 1 by now... rip.
Ganelon Chose to craft a gun and gave it to Deathworlds.
Ganelon's Factional Night kill targeted Gyrlander N1.
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Re: S-FM 301: Standoff (Game Thread)
That game was fun to watch. I find Day 2 very entertaining. Nicely done!
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yeah, thanks for the game though AIVION, I had fun powerwolfing on D1 and a bit on D2.
it also opened my eyes to a number of glaring setup issues and frankly I must say I used to be a very trash and irresponsible setup maker; I am trying to change that, I didn’t put a lot of effort into this one, but did into my last setup. I really need to put a lot of thought into balance, and this game showed me what I can improve:
first, the fact that scum can win this game almost instantly if they have a poisoner and that ALMOST NOTHING can stop them is just plain wrong. I may limit the number of killing roles that can exist in the game at any one time, because it’s frankly quite ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by
BananaCucho
Town is on the winning streak now
And the first time the players who were scum thought they were town; this time... honestly, I do believe Varcron played this one well, and so did DW. I feel like DW was MVP this game; I was terrified of DW the entire time. I tried really hard to play as my town self this game and I think that to a rather significant degree, I succeeded. I almost got myself lynched early on when I scunread DW for Bs reasons; the temptation as scum is to a) scumpaint people so it looks like you’re scumhunting, and b) to discredit your opponents. For me honestly it was more the former than the latter; I quickly backed off when I realized I couldn’t defend my push on DW, at all.
and lastly I’d like to say I’m sorry
@Wiisp
died d1. Was actually looking forward to playing scum with him 😭
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Re: S-FM 301: Standoff (Game Thread)
-vote MacDougall
Um... good call? :D
This is the first perfect town victory this year, congrats everyone. Also, I don't know if scum were that scummy on D1, I didn't fully follow but it didn't look like it to me. How did you guys find Wisp out?
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So you mean to tell me, treeko added an afk to the game who popped in randomly to poison the last scum and then disappeared, and that was the end of the game?
LMFAO
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Thanks everyone for the compliments on my play! It was a fun game to partake in, even though it was solved night 1 lmao.
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
Also, I don't know if scum were that scummy on D1, I didn't fully follow but it didn't look like it to me. How did you guys find Wisp out?
For Wisp it was a combination of passive behavior, apathay towards pressure, and setup analysis.
Wisp sure did poke people, but it never really led anywhere, and they were apathatic when they were about to be lynched, which is a pattern of behavior I see in most scum.
But a LOT of it came from the investigator claim. This setup only really allows for up to two investigatives if you want it to have any semblance of balance, 1 on town side, and maybe 1 on the scum side. I was trying to CC wisp in a very subtle manner when it came down to it, if they claimed anything but an investigative role, I mighta backed down.
As for Ganelon, idk if I just didn't read it, but I can't see where he got tripped off by Varcron, or at least the post he claimed to see Varcron scumpainting. So from my PoV Ganelon just stopped making sense past the last third of day. Could be desperate scum trying to push a train somewhere else, could've just been a Deathtunneltm. Hence why he was a hard town/scum to me, and why I hoped someone else would solve the slot, which they did :P
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So you mean to tell me, you guys just randomed and killed scum. Kappa
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Originally Posted by
Frinckles
So you mean to tell me, you guys just randomed and killed scum. Kappa
More or less :P. I like the "Wisp poked at people, but it never led anywhere" part. Seeing that quite often myself.
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I really feel like I played my town meta to rather significant extent, although not as strongly when is started hard defending Wiisp.
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Yeah I just started flinging shit at Varcron. It’s actually quite tricky to scumpaint people when they play as Varcron did.
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Re: S-FM 301: Standoff (Game Thread)
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Originally Posted by
Ganelon
I really feel like I played my town meta to rather significant extent, although not as strongly when is started hard defending Wiisp.
Bruh if you played to your town meta I would've been vibin' with you so hard,
probably woulda been an instant pocket
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There were a few things I said that I felt were good scumpaint, like the point where I said scum get annoyed when you scumread them for BS reasons.
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Originally Posted by
Ganelon
There were a few things I said that I felt were good scumpaint, like the point where I said scum get annoyed when you scumread them for BS reasons.
Everyone gets annoyed when they're scumread for BS reasons.
Making/presenting weak or bs reads is a scum tell, because scum have to put in a great deal of effort to come up with a good reason to scumread anyone, because they (especially in a setup like this where it's strictly town vs mafia) already know their alignment. If they don't put in sufficient effort, then it looks like they're just coming up with some BS, which they are 90% of the time.
This is why I'm aggro towards weak town reads towards myself. It's SUPER easy for scum to say that someone is town because they already know that person is town
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Originally Posted by
deathworlds
Bruh if you played to your town meta I would've been vibin' with you so hard,
probably woulda been an instant pocket
I mean that was kinda true when I dropped my lush on you wasn’t it? Many of the things I said this game were things I definitely would’ve said as town; I tried to replicate that and was pretty mindful of it, so while I admit it wasn’t perfect, I do think I at least partially succeeded, from time to time.
Sorry, I don’t mean to downplay you guys figuring me out, but I felt I didn’t play too bad; I was certainly pretty conscious of how you guys would interpret what I was sayibg.
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Have you ever been questioned by someone as scum, with them giving no argument as to why they scunread you? It is extremely annoying. The way Varcron reacted was towny because he was very aggressive about it, and usually that comes from town. But it’s a lot more annoying as scum, because you aren’t sure whether to defend, to discredit, or to just ignore it. It’s tricky figuring out what to do in those situations
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Originally Posted by
Frinckles
So you mean to tell me, you guys just randomed and killed scum. Kappa
Not really randomed, a real town invest would have probably fought tooth and nail to stay alive to prove he was town.
Did take some balls to lynch a TPR claim though
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Everything is based on tonal reads these days, but I have yet to see people highlight certain words, which makes reading the game kinda odd.
I feel like charisma, and people's reliance on it is very high. People saying, "I haven't been mislynched in a year" kinda.. backfires on you when you arrive somewhere new.
The pace of the game was very slow in the beginning, and slightly boring to read. I think D2 was a much more fun time. I would have preferred it that Ganelon was not scum, but alas things can be solved by night actions.
GG I guess.
I am unwilling to say MacDougal deserves MVP for not playing the game. Kind of insulting to everyone else.
-vote Varcron
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Originally Posted by
Ganelon
I really feel like I played my town meta to rather significant extent, although not as strongly when is started hard defending Wiisp.
You were vibing in my books until you started hardcore going to defend wiisp.
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Originally Posted by
secondpassing
People saying, "I haven't been mislynched in a year" kinda.. backfires on you when you arrive somewhere new.
I was very tempted to say "good thing this isn't a mislynch", but I thought people might misinterpret that as bussing
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Re: S-FM 301: Standoff (Game Thread)
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Originally Posted by
deathworlds
I was very tempted to say "good thing this isn't a mislynch", but I thought people might misinterpret that as bussing
Sounds pretty bussy to me
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Originally Posted by
Varcron
Not really randomed, a real town invest would have probably fought tooth and nail to stay alive to prove he was town.
Did take some balls to lynch a TPR claim though
Ez for me to do when I was essentially the town invest slot
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Originally Posted by
deathworlds
Ez for me to do when I was essentially the town invest slot
Yeah, but I didn't know that 100% so it was a bit of a stretch for me before i basically said fuck it
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Originally Posted by
Varcron
Yeah, but I didn't know that 100% so it was a bit of a stretch for me before i basically said fuck it
ofc ofc.
Either way gj Varcron, I really liked your play this game, I even townread you before I saw your cit claim
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Originally Posted by
deathworlds
ofc ofc.
Either way gj Varcron, I really liked your play this game, I even townread you before I saw your cit claim
And that's what I call a miracle
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Re: S-FM 301: Standoff (Game Thread)
GOOFY Pringles and Cucho watching
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Originally Posted by
BananaCucho
No krabs here nothing to see
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Re: S-FM 301: Standoff (Game Thread)
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Originally Posted by
AIVION
GAME IS OVER! The Town has won!
https://cdn3.whatculture.com/images/...movie-2000.jpg
The leader of the patriots has found him. He stumbled into town choking on his own vomit. He claimed he was poisoned and that he's the last loyalist. He didn't want to die slowly so... He wanted the town to put him out of his misery. The patriots all spit on him before they granted him a swift and painful death.
Ganelon was lynched/poisoned to death! His role was Blacksmith
Congratulations to Gyrlander, Auwt, MacDougall, DeathWorlds, Varcron, and Theoneceko!
Host Notes: Well... This game was the shortest game I've ever hosted, and the biggest landslide to a town victory I've seen in a while too. Scum lynched Day 1 and Poisoned Night 1. Ouch... ;(
To be honest I feel really bad for my scum team. Wiisp sort of got lynched for.. Some reason? (I will admit I wasn't fully following the game but from what I seen I still don't fully understand why he was the one to go day 1). And then Macdougall coming back night 1 to poison the last scum after not posting all that much sort of felt... anti climactic. I think the next time I host a game, I want to be able to have some sort of contact with ALL of my players... because I had to rely on some people to get in contact with Macdougall for me to let them know the game started. I was kind of looking forward to MacDougall playing a bit more but I understand they are pretty busy with other games and life. Oh well...
I liked Deathworlds this game and I liked seeing him play again. I hope you decide to come back and play more in the future! If I had to vote for a town MVP I'd vote him. His Last Will was also pretty impressive for a game that was solved and technically ended Night 1. I also have a vote out to Wiisp and Ganelon... purely because I felt like they didn't get to really do anything as a scum team. I didn't even get to make a scum discord chat for them! That's a first for me ;(
99 votes to hammer.. If you guys want to vote for an MVP feel free. I'd link discord chats... but I didn't get to make any... xD
Oh neat.
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Re: S-FM 301: Standoff (Game Thread)
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Originally Posted by
AIVION
I also wanna add that I was just... In shock and completely baffled when MacDougall arrived into the first few hours of Night 1 and just chose to poison Ganelon... Little did he know he ended the game for scum in those very moments. I was hoping heavily that he'd return and change his mind... but it never happened.
Just wow XD
poor Ganelon ;-;
Edit: Something I didn't add to my End game post:
DeathWorlds chose to track Auwt N1.
Theoneceko chose to hide behind Gyrlander N1 (And it seemed like they thought they killed Gyrlander... which was a bit comical ngl Sorry not sorry).
We all know who MacDougall Poisoned Night 1 by now... rip.
Ganelon Chose to craft a gun and gave it to Deathworlds.
Ganelon's Factional Night kill targeted Gyrlander N1.
It wasn't random. I read enough of the day to know that Ganelon was super opposed to Wiisp being yeeted.
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Re: S-FM 301: Standoff (Game Thread)
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Originally Posted by
secondpassing
Everything is based on tonal reads these days, but I have yet to see people highlight certain words, which makes reading the game kinda odd.
I feel like charisma, and people's reliance on it is very high. People saying, "I haven't been mislynched in a year" kinda.. backfires on you when you arrive somewhere new.
The pace of the game was very slow in the beginning, and slightly boring to read. I think D2 was a much more fun time. I would have preferred it that Ganelon was not scum, but alas things can be solved by night actions.
GG I guess.
I am unwilling to say MacDougal deserves MVP for not playing the game. Kind of insulting to everyone else.
-vote Varcron
Fair. I literally didn't read anything til night 1 and then just read a few pages, poisoned Ganelon, came back to role claim and make enough posts not to get mod-killed, replaced or banned.
I am sorry that I was slanking but I really had no idea I was in the game until TDL messaged me during night 1. I didn't actually sign up lol.
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Originally Posted by
macdougall
Fair. I literally didn't read anything til night 1 and then just read a few pages, poisoned Ganelon, came back to role claim and make enough posts not to get mod-killed, replaced or banned.
I am sorry that I was slanking but I really had no idea I was in the game until TDL messaged me during night 1. I didn't actually sign up lol.
UWU +69
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Originally Posted by
theoneceko
UWU +69
this exxpeeiirience was awful, ik. but if u ever wannaplay again, just DM me on discoword. uwu!!!
or just checkckkthe website & sign up urself. OwO
iwon't't''t bother u again about playing FM here, so yea justcome of ur own accord xDDDD LOLOLOLOL WUFFLFLE PUFFLELE!!!!
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Originally Posted by
theoneceko
this exxpeeiirience was awful, ik. but if u ever wannaplay again, just DM me on discoword. uwu!!!
or just checkckkthe website & sign up urself. OwO
iwon't't''t bother u again about playing FM here, so yea justcome of ur own accord xDDDD LOLOLOLOL WUFFLFLE PUFFLELE!!!!
It wasn't awful at all and I don't mind if you invite me again Ceko just make sure I am actually going to play if you ever sign me up lmao.
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Originally Posted by
macdougall
It wasn't awful at all and I don't mind if you invite me again Ceko just make sure I am actually going to play if you ever sign me up lmao.
tbh he should have let you sign up for yourself so you knew you were in the game, cause that was a problem.
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Originally Posted by
macdougall
Fair. I literally didn't read anything til night 1 and then just read a few pages, poisoned Ganelon, came back to role claim and make enough posts not to get mod-killed, replaced or banned.
I am sorry that I was slanking but I really had no idea I was in the game until TDL messaged me during night 1. I didn't actually sign up lol.
Good job lol.
Also, I totally read TDL as The Darkest Light (an old member who isn't really around anymore), and was utterly confused. :D
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
Good job lol.
Also, I totally read TDL as The Darkest Light (an old member who isn't really around anymore), and was utterly confused. :D
what TDL stand for in this context???
uWu
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Originally Posted by
theoneceko
what TDL stand for in this context???
uWu
The Dark Lord, i.e. discord me xD
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Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
Good job lol.
Also, I totally read TDL as The Darkest Light (an old member who isn't really around anymore), and was utterly confused. :D
I miss TDL :(